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- My very first cheese experiments from 8/7/2019! Something to watch while I'm away :-)
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OK only 8 mins in and Houston we have a problem.
The iv is the presumed cause...
Because when you choose your iv for your experiment you presume it to be the cause.
You do the experiment and see if the effect expected happened or not.
It didn't? Then your iv (presumed cause) was not the cause
It did? The your iv (presumed cause) was the cause.
Problem 2
You don't realise with your cheese balance you are measuring the force due to rdd.
If you want to measure the density ie which one more dense or less dense you need to keep the volume the same. After all density is per unit volume.
What you are doing is measuring the force due to rdd. No rdd no force to be measured.
No rdd no acceleration its that's simple.
Great! So, when you drop objects of varying density (
The IV alters the magnitude or direction of the effect. It isn’t the actual cause in every case. Eg the IV of time in cooking something isn’t the cause of the food cooking, it’s the thermal energy that is the cause, the IV (time) changes the magnitude of the effect.
Super simple, children understand this.
Only one sentence into your comment and, Houston, we have a problem.
@@dougbuitenbos2486 well let's say I have 2 different densities.
10kg/m3 and 50kg/m3
In air 1.2kg /m3
8.6328m/s/s for 10kg/m3
9.57456m/s/s for the 50kg/m3 one.
More accurate equipment.
If the only thing that gives a force is density disequilibrium, then his experiment is valid. You’re saying the amount of mass is also a factor, because if you increase density and volume together, you’ve increased mass.
I love how he's showing an experiment that's basically a demonstration of buoyancy. The formula for buoyancy has to have gravity in it. Riley doesn't seem to realize what his experiment actually is.
a) not really surprising that he doesn't, is it?
b) of course they don't acknowledge the formula, they say buoyancy is a basic property of the object. In the same way we'd say its mass is a basic property.
c) actually Riley knows he's wrong... he's a con man. He might actually be too stupid to understand why he's wrong as well, but he definitely knows his experiment actually requires gravity.
Maybe he’ll have time to do the reading, no longer having to bother with making YT videos...
My finger muscles can be used to flick on a light switch. Therefore, that light bulb is powered by my finger muscles. Where's my Nobel prize?
My middle finger can control the emotions of other drivers. It’s amazing really.
This always makes me laugh. Repeating an elementary school experiment to help demonstrate density and buoyancy and still not understanding it and somehow it means the earth is flat.
By his own reasoning:
There can be only one independent variable.
The IV is what the experimenter manipulates.
You cannot substitute or suggest alternative causes.
He has *not* manipulated density. That is substituting an alternative cause, a strict no-no.
The change in density is an effect of the variable he *has* manipulated: Presence of salt.
According to his version of science, salt makes eggs float.
But wait, we can go further!
Repeat the experiment with only one change: Keep the cap on the salt shaker. With the salt shaker closed, the egg sinks. With it open, the egg floats.
Now merely opening salt shakers causes eggs to float!
I use gravity everyday to do everyday things everyday. It makes it easier to keep track of your belongings as they stay where you put them and don't float away or slide around with fluctuations in the air density that can cause them to move sideways.
Ask Riley to do the experiment again only without the Earth underneath the container.
Yes, you must have a control, that is the scientific method.
I've pointed out to both Riley and Rachie that an experiment along these lines has indeed been done. The Lunar Rover was used on several Apollo missions to the Moon. On Earth the Rover was extremely heavy for 4 men to lift. But the very same Rover, once on the Moon, was easily lifted by 2 astronauts. So the exact same object weighs different amounts depending on which mass it happens to be near, Earth or Moon. Change the primary mass, Earth or Moon, the independent variable, and the dependent variable, weight, changes! Even without salt!
I've often wondered just how much salt needs to be added to the water to get a Maldivian seaplane to rise off the ocean and fly.
Well if someone measures something and declares they have no idea what it means it might as well be "unicorn farts" then you know you have found the pinnacle of anti-science.
Riley correctly observed that the density gradient in the salt water causes the egg to float at a certain position. What's the cause for that density gradient? Perhaps the same cause as for the density gradient of the atmosphere? GRAVITY!
I think his answer would be the ever intellectual "unicorn farts".
And again flerfs fail to realise that density and buoyancy have g in their equations, without it, density and buoyancy are meaningless, hence the reason why in a drop plane liquids mix together when in freefall!
Density is not a force. It is the amount of the affected mass in a specified volume.
How to tell that Riley knows nothing of the scientific method: he always omits the definite article. It's *the* scientific method. It is always referred to that way. Except by Riley.
Ah….! This was depressing. Mr Sensible hasn’t changed one bit has he. Meanwhile I have aged terribly.. I even got gray hair now. What’s the secret Mr Sensible? Cheddar cheese?
Yeah, Mr. Sensible's hair hasn't changed color at all.
Oooh a flashback! I remember when this came out!
I find it amusing that Riley uses Newton to say that if there’s an acceleration, there must be a force. But he doesn’t accept Newton when it comes to gravity. Why can’t he make up his mind whether Newton is right or wrong?
Einstein debunked newton that's why. If newton was right about gravity then there would be no need for einstein 🤷♂️
@@Rachie-nj3oi
No, Einstein refined Newton’s laws for cases where there are either extremely high masses (like black holes) or where high velocities are involved. Einstein deliberately made sure that his equations reduced to Newton’s equations under normal conditions. He wasn’t debunking Newton, he was building on his foundations.
@@Rachie-nj3oi no your wrong. Einstein only explained what was happening with more detail.. Newtonian physics are still used everyday. The frog hop you was doing was just dumb. And didn't prove anything. If you so the same thing on a a free fall plane you would see them same liquids mix together. Your not a flerf Rachie. Even in your own video when you said rays coming from the sun were not parallel. But as soon as you looked back you could see the rays run parallel. You people debunk yourself over and over. It's just too funny you can't see it. Can't have rdd without gravity. Which edd is just stupid and makes no sense whatsoever. Don't be like Riley. I've seen some of your videos. You are smarter than that. You all know the earth is not flat. Just s grift and science denial. That all it is. It's a joke. Even Einstein said himself he didn't debunk Einstein. Only when something is so large of a mass or traveling st light speed does einsteins equations even come in to play.
@@jerry2357 they don't get it bro. Something wrong with their thinking skills. Their right because they say their right. And nobody can prove then wrong. She takes all her info from someone that don't even know how to find the sides of a triangle. What a joke.
@@Rachie-nj3oi Einstein didn't think the earth is flat.
I can replace that salt he pours with fine grain sand, pour the sand in the same way he poured the salt and I will observe the egg rise even though the sand is not dissolving into the water changing its density.
The motion of the grains of sand, and in his case the salt crystals before they dissolve, will cause motion in the water flowing down around the egg, the egg may initially drop a bit if some of the sand is poured directly over it. This motion of the water will need to flow somewhere at the bottom of the glass, it will be reflected up under the egg lifting it up in the water!
If he used coloured salt he would see the salt crystals move down past the egg and start to dissolve where the pigment would then be seen to billow back up under the egg pushing it up before the water density has had a real chance to change. He failed to include motion of the salt and water as variables, only the motion of the egg.
What causes the motion of the salt, or sand in my case? Yep, it's our good old friend, gravity!
Epic ! The only question is, Should former DFOTY winners even be allowed to run for TopLeft ?
I've been a Diver for many years.
When in the water, I can vary my relative density Such that i can be:
Buoyant
Neutrally buoyant
Negatively buoyant
I do this by changing the volume (my variable) of my personal assembly.
My personal assembly is:
Me
My diving suit, mask & fins
Aqualung set
Weight belt
and
My Buoyancy Compensator (aka BC) - (which is essentially an inflatable jacket - I can adjust the volume of the jacket by putting air in or letting it out.
When kitted up. I jump in to the oggy with the BC fully inflated and lo, I float!
I let a little air out of the BC and lo, I sink.
I adjust it a bit and I neither sink nor float to the surface. I'm neutrally buoyant
Archimedes would be proud!
Thus relative density is a thing and I can manipulate it.
Doesn't mean that Earth is flat though. :)
watching this. I wondered if Rachie had learned enough to see how dumb Riley was.
My only surprise. The ease that my ponderings were answered
Keep in mind that Riley saying "I'm within the scientific method" is wrong from the start, even if we allow his poor terminology and accept that we know what he means by saying that.
Riley is so invested in flat earth at this point that he MUST defend it at any cost, including going outside of the scientific method by starting with the conclusion and inventing excuses to arrive there.
Here we see a man who knows that flat earth is 100% debunked by images of Earth from space, but he doesn't want to be seen as a lazy parrot by simply crying "CGI", so he has chosen to debunk space launches by way of saying they're impossible because of the necessity of a container to keep air pressure on earth, and this container is only needed because gravity is not a force, so he creates this eggsperiment to prove a dome that rockets cannot fly through does exist.
Flat Earth
because CGI
because no rockets
because dome
because no gravity
because egg
(because stubborn and dishonest)
No matter how much he is taught that his eggsperiment is faulty, he absolutely has to defend it because he has painted himself into a corner and without that egg, he'll grow quite hungry sitting alone in that corner unless he walks back across all the paint he's layed down, trashing the whole thing and starting over.
Where, oh where can I acquire this magic dense Cheddar cheese of my very own? 🧀🧀🧀
I’ve made a perpetual motion machine using Mr Sensibles theory of Cheese make maps move.
I took a cheese slice and held it down, I then began to carve a map into the cheese … the energy output was amazing !!
Please be careful down there Mr.Sensible. You are practically sideways there. We wouldn't want you to accidentally sleep upside down for example or accidentally facepalm your ears due to wrong orientation.
Also, enjoy your aweseome vacation.
All the gibberish aside, that's an eggcelent eggsperiment and he actually drew the right conclusion. Until he eggstended the conclusion to try to eggsplain gravity using an effect of gravity at least.
You forgot to use unicorn farts to measure the smell of the cheese. ROFL
Riley has mouldy swiss cheese for brain cells.
The showed definitions of experiment is not the scientific method. It is the result of an experiment with Google, when ”Independent variable” is the independent variable.
Newton’s 1st law - an object remains in the same state of motion unless a resultant force acts on it i.e. if an object is moving it will keep moving unless a net force acts upon it and if it is stationary it will remain stationary unless a net force acts upon it.
Now if Nathan has manipulated his IV to make a force and the egg move what force is acting on it to make it stop moving? Why, according to Newton doesn’t the egg continue moving if Nathan is correct?
Could it be because there is a force acting on the egg to stop it moving? A force that we might call gravity?
I honestly have to wonder how long these videos take to make. The second Riley started talking, I started falling asleep! I can only presume many naps were taken during making this video, and Sleeping Warrior was the cause. *nods matter of factly*
The mass disequalibrium (A contradiction) is in his freaking head!! You know: led paint buildup.
Anthony Riley is _not_ practicing pseudo-science, he is instead practicing stupid-science.
(Mr. S, you shredded his argument... _WITH CHEESE!_ Well done, sir!)
The demonstration with the fan I hadn't seen before. It showed nicely how you can be deceived when you are unaware of how the factors in the situation are linked. Your balance demonstration showed that density is not a factor when the density of the medium is not sigificant. Sleepy claimed gravity was not a factor without showing how he had excluded it. Yet the downward acceleration is an observed constant fact of life. So why does it seem to disappear when we immerse in water? Because the medium and the object are both being accelerated downwards. The denser one wins and the other has to get out of the way, that is go up. Were the downward acceleration really gone, nothing would happen when you change the density.
When I saw the thumbnail I immediately thought that Mr. Sensible was in way too fancy of a place because they let him use their printer. I doubt they let you print color at a Best Western
At what level of delusion does one have to be, in order to convince yourself that you know more than a real Scientist?
Is technology not a consequence of science then Anthony? 🤔 .
All this time and he still can't produce a formula that can be applied to reality. Meanwhile a child can predict how high their toy rocket will launch.
He’d be really confused if he used an older egg, they float.
Riley:you can't demonstrate bouyency and density without gravity in the equation.for without gravity neither can exist.
Listening to AR with headphones on I can hear bird calls in the background, worth watching just to listen to the wonders of nature.
They can't prove a flat earth so they've given up trying and are now trying to change the rule of science. 🤣
Wow, the audio and video quality of your videos has improved significantly! I didn’t notice the improvement at the time, but it’s quite obvious now.
I know. Massive improvement!
I fully expected the Monty Python Cheese Shop sketch to play at 9:03.
Cheese is the most important science of all sciences. Thanks for another great video, Mr. Sensible.
Anthony riley Agrees with Gary wybenga, they both think things get "Physically" smaller the further those things get from the viewer... Rileys words 🙂 lol
Yeah, for someone addicted to whipping out his dictionary every chance he gets, he sure dropped the ball on that one.
RDD: Riley’s Dumb Deduction
RDD: Riley’s Demonstrable Delusions
RDD: Really Dumb Demonstration
Riley’s Derp x Derp
Thank you..
and WTF would liely know about science? and the answer is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Total derp solids
Relative density blah blah whatever... That just means that the density of something compared to another object, does not change over time
it's been a while since i heard geostreber and his angry keyboard on any stream...
Static cling depending on the make up of materials as well.
What if he reverses it and has a glass of salt and adds water?
I see this was made before you started strapping your arms down to the chair. Thanks Mr. S!
Excellent debunk. And with cheese 🧀
How could Anthony display so much derp?
How could he not?
Huzzah!
I will try to keep everything else constant. The volumes of water, nothing else will change. His own words.
Did he try measuring the volume of water before and after adding a measured volume of salt to it accurately?
I don’t think so or he’d have found the volume of water does increase a small amount as salt is added to it.
In other words he has altered more than one variable. Of course he doesn’t even consider this or the enthalpy.
It’s a funny thing about reactions, to break bonds requires energy and making new ones can release more or less energy giving you a exo or endothermic overall reaction.
In other words he ignores more than just gravity due to his ignorance.
How about he gives us a way to calculate or predict how any object will react when added to a column of water for a start? You know, like we can do using basic physics that does take gravity into account.
What use is their rdd if you can’t predict how things will behave? How deep will his egg sink in a column of his salt water and how much more or less salt would be required to make it sink say 5 cm lower? Maybe he just thinks we have to suck it and see but that isn’t very good if we want to send a camera down to a certain depth to examine something for example.
An inspiring presentation sir.
Thanks.
TBS
Yes but why does denser object go DOWN, why not left right or up?
Can you show how the egg leaps out of the glass, something is keeping the egg and water in the glass.
I dare say the density of some brain matter approaches that of a white dwarf
Has flat earther ever explained what keeps the Sun and the Moon up above the "flat Earth"; and traveling in a circle? Have they ever explained why both the Sun and the Moon don't fall down onto the "flat Earth". Do they understand that the more complex the explanation to observed reality is; the more likely it is to be wrong? Honestly, I don't know why they just don't put everything down to "a wizard did it" and leave it at that. It's as good an explanation as anything else they say.
Well, the majority come from the "Goddidit" fraction, and "Goddidit" is the designated terminator of curiosity. As good christian you are not to question the ways of God.
There is a number of millions of GigaWatts of energy that come obviously from the sun, and that have to be provided by the supposed 50km-dia sun disc/sphere while zooming around with an average 2617 kph. Can be verified it is from the sun by holding an obstruction ONLY in the direct path to the sun.
And then we have our "the sun is lurking IN BETWEEN the clouds" fraction. It still has to move with 2617 kph to circle round once a day. In 10 km height the sun would cover an angle of 89 degrees from 11am to noon (and zenith) to 89 degrees on at 1 pm. And still would light half the surface of the flat earth.
Mmmm... scientific cheese. My favorite.
Him tho THMART! 😣
ALL POWER TO THE CHEESE WHEEL!
30:59 really is like saying what weighs more ? 15 pound of feathers or 15 pound of lead ? Lol 😂
Repeat this experiment in outer space, Anthony. Say, in the ISS.
Finally... CHEESE!
19:02 He pours the salt in. The salt falls in a rapid stream. Being heavier than the water it sinks, displacing water upward. The upward displacement of water carries the egg with it. As the salt settles, the egg slowly settles *right back to where it was* - 19:12. We aren't even witnessing buoyancy here. The salt hasn't had enough time to dissolve and change the density of the water, thus causing the egg to rise due to a change in density and a consequent change in buoyancy (requiring 'g'). All we're seeing is a *temporary* displacement of the egg due to the inducing of an upward current in the water from the displacement of water brought on by pouring salt in the cup. He could achieve the same effect by pouring sand in the cup, a material which would not dissolve and change the density of the water.
This is a form of confirmation bias. He is seeing what he wants to see and ignoring whatever is inconvenient. I see a pinned comment from Rachie. I've written to her about confirmation bias as well... to no avail.
Not forgetting different ions and even organic matter can produce different readings on these meters so depending on the salt used and if it contains other salts like potassium chloride or magnesium, calcium etc, salts the same amount of salt you might have a similar density but different meter reading.
Nathan says, “does it force a displacement” then, “it has forced a displacement” in the salted water glass.
Erm, the egg has displaced the same amount of water in both cases. He keeps going on about the relative density is causing an acceleration and therefore a force according to Newton but the egg isn’t accelerating.
The egg isn’t moving so the net force acting on it is 0. In other words it floats where gravity and the weight of liquid displaced cancel each other out
Once it is moving and Anthony isn’t manipulating his Ind. variable it should continue moving according to Newton’s first law. Of course Anthony didn’t state a complete version of Newton’s 1st law as that would suggest that a force acted on the egg to stop it moving as well.
Don't know what that means it's just a number tells you everything you need to know.
I always join the side that has fewer pee-drinkers in their ranks. RDD debunked then.
What was the stuff at the bottom? Salt or sugar? It should be more than 300 ppm if it is salt.
That’s what I thought too. I’ve seen what a little salt contamination in the lab can do to conductivity or TDS.
I wonder how many years Riley is going to continue with this.
Changing the density of the water makes a difference. Yup. But Riley fails to identify the actual mechanism, which is buoyancy, which requires 'g'.
Gonna need 'g' for that. And yes, we have 'g'.
_"buoyancy, which requires 'g'."_ I'm sorry, you forgot the power of "nuh-uhh" which can be used to ignore the part of science you want to ignore.
He is the eggman (Ooh)
They are the eggmen (Ooh)
He is the flathead
Goo goo g' joob
Goo goo g' joob
G' goo goo g' joob
Goo goo g' joob, goo goo g' goo g' goo goo g' joob joob
Joob joob...
It was this song or Fool On The Hill ….
.... and somewhere in the midlands, a cow must be is saying to herself "I made a whole bunch of milk for this nonsense?????????"
If he wanted to demonstrate density effects... he should try that same experiment with water and cooking oil... the oil is more dense than water... but here's a fun one for you... oil FLOATS on water dispite being more dense. That makes a mess of RDD doesn't it?
It is sad that Sleepy Worrier thinks using a 1st-grade science demonstration is somehow a science experiment.
After lots of denial and made-up science from our favourite top left girlie, the earth is still a globe!
a thought for Anton Petrov's loss :/
Omg Mr S, are you alright?? Should we call an ambulance? I bet you have brain damage now, from all that facepalming! Well, us too.😭
We're gonna send a mortuary car for Nathan... Don't worry, we're not gonna say who murdered him.🤣🤣
Sorry. But the cheese was PREVENTING the map from moving. It also prevents me from moving.
OMG Leaky Warrior the Eggsbert 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
with cheese ... 😁
My first cheese experiment!!
@@MrSensibleHistoric And a grand example it is. It's cute how SW's entire argument revolves around pretending no other effects, observations or experiments exist. His assumptions that adding salt affects density, or that the TDS meter measures it, are just as invalid according to that logic.
Can I have extra cheese? I love cheeeeeeeeeeeeeese!
Loved this long style video BUT please normalizer your audio. We had at least 3 different volumes one of which (the music) was quite loud in comparison.
This was as was back then. Poor equipment and lack of experience! I have learnt alot ove the last 2.5 years.
@@MrSensibleHistoric ah I didn't realize that this was an old video
@@QuintarFarenor number 12 i think and I've now done over 400!
He's staying within scientific method and still practicing pseudoscience...
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I mean... if you say something isn't part of the scientific method because there are no _citations_ that say it is, you don't know what any of those words mean.
First! 😁
He talks about scientific methods and doesn't even know what ppm is. It's painful to watch and hear.
Nathan Oakley just destroyed you Mr Senseless 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nathan Oakley thinks Flat Earthers are gullible imbeciles though.
Daniel Freeman. Yawn 🥱 next
The only things Shouty-Mutey Oakley has ever destroyed are eardrums and his own credibility.
Hey Danie Freeman.... Riley thinks things get "Physically" smaller the further away they get... do you agree with riley and Gary? Because if you do, you lose🙂
I sincerely hope you're watching that pasty broke fraud. He doesn't think the earth is flat. He just can't give up the easy money and attention.
I’ve made a perpetual motion machine using Mr Sensibles theory of Cheese make maps move.
I took a cheese slice and held it down, I then began to carve a map into the cheese … the energy output was amazing !!