Почему нет русских комментариев? Это ведь лучшие годы советского хоккея.да и вообще противлстояния ссср и северной америке.кубок канады это очень классный турнир. Советский любой хоккеист из этой сборной звезда
Essentially hot housed. They weren't much better than the US in this game. XGF were probably 4-3 in USSR favor. Don't understand not playing Steve Baker in net, Mike O'Connell on D (Langevin was awful) and Mark Howe at C. Also why weren't Mark Pavelich, Bobby Carpenter and Joe Mullen on the team. My US Team G Baker Craig VanBiesbrock D - O'Connell Langway Morrow Roberts Larson Dunn C - Howe - Broten-Pavelich - Ftorek LW- Carpenter-McClanahan-Christian- B. Miller RW Mullen-Christoff-Talafous Rowe
Esposito played poorly both Canadian games. Should have gone with a real US Goalie in Steve Baker. It was unfortunate that Tom Rowe and Mike Fidler had injuries in 1979 that curtailed their careers. Also Bobby Carpenter should have been on this team. Don't understand why Mike O'Connell didn't play this game.
Tony O didn't belong. US should have gone with Baker. This talent pool of US Players could have created 4 US Teams competitive with the 1976 US Canada Cup squad. That's how drastic of an improvement in talent and depth there was. G - Baker-Craig-LoPresti-Janaszak-Janecyk-Skidmore Vs G - Lopresti-Curran Baker, Craig, Janecyk were better than LoPresti-Curran.
USA 1981 D pool vs 1976 D Corp 1976 Top 4 D Corp was D-Sargent-Milbury-Chartraw-Nyrop 1981 4 Team Top 4D (16D) LD-Langway-Ramsey-Dunn-Langevin-Roberts-Milbury-Baker-Norwich RD-Larson-O'Connell-Morrow-Brownschidle-Micheletti-Hangsleben-Anderson-Chartraw Milbury and Chartraw only top 4D in '81 pool. You can debate where Milbury sits in '81 pool, maybe a couple of spots higher but not Chartraw. Much deeper D Corp when a 4 team group is very competitive with the '76 pool.
US Top 6F in '76 IMO were Ftorek-Howe-Talafous-Bennett Jensen-Gilbertson The top 6F in '81 of 4 US Squads of Forwards IMO: Howe-Broten-Ftorek-Pavelich-Carpenter-Mullen-Christian-Johnson-Holmgren-Rowe-Eaves Christoff-McClanahan-B. Miller W. Miller-Fidler-Talafous-Gorence McClanahan-Gorence-Jensen A. Broten-Bolduc-Younghans
Nice win for Canada, but that was with Myshkin in the net. The gallows were being prepared for the Canadians for the final though, an 8-1 drubbing. An embarrassment that Canada can never ever ever live down. That's a score you would expect to see in a bantam vs. peewee game, not a game with Gretzky and Bossy on the losing team.
I read through these juvenile comments and want to laugh but cannot summon enough to overcome the feeling of tragedy in them. The Soviet team was together 345 days a year, year after year undergoing grueling conditioning, while the Canadian and American teams are thrown together for two to three weeks and the selection of players is done by a small group of coaches in an even shorter period of time. Despite this process, Canada has still won the CC every tournament except 81 and two out of three World Cup of Hockey tournaments. We all know Mike Liut turned into a complete sieve this game to top it off. Suggesting that Myshkin was any less a goalie than Tretiak is nonsense. Look back at my first point about the Soviet team being together all year round for years; what has happened since those days and that system ended? The Russians haven't won a single Olympic gold medal in hockey since then with their best showing being a silver. The Athletes from Russia, a name put on them because they were found doping (back to the future with Putin wanting the resurrect the Soviet union) got gold but Canada sent amateurs. Their showing at the World's since the collapse of the Soviet system is not much better. One has to take a holistic, 10,000 foot view not a 5 foot view of the situation. Also, let me remind you that Gretzky has more scoring points per game in International play than any other player in history. Recall that he had a 5-point game against the best Soviet team ever assembled in 1987 Canada Cup. Most comments here have a childish theme driven by nationalism and lacking any critical thinking skill. No wonder the world is in so much chaos.
@@ragnarjonsson1122 Oh, I didn't compliment you on your impressive, thoughtful, well-constructed reply. Do the educate you idiots over there in Swampland?
Jimmy Pye, the USSR Team was not 100% The Red Army. Guys like Myshkin, Vasiliev, the Golikov brothers played on their own club teams. I believe 8 out of the 20 1980 USSR players were on other club teams.
Let's not forget they beat the living shit out of the Canadians 8-1 in this tournament. By far the best team in the world at the time. Wasn't even close.
final game Mike Liut was absolutely horrendous, you should have played Donnie Edwards like they did earlier in the tournament when they beat the Russians 7-3
Yea, that's him alright, as biased as he ever was. At least he didn't get any worse. I don't know why ESPN, and then Sports Channel, had him and Clement for the cup finals broadcasts in the 80's-90's, they really sucked!
By 1981 the hockey world saw the emergence of the US as clearly one of the top 4 countries in hockey. Canada and the USSR were the two best, but IMO the US would be slightly ahead of Sweden and clearly better than Czech.
The false accusations of wrong doing aimed at the Soviets, by the US media is what eventually drove me to support them."They intentionally switch jerseys" to cheat."Sergei Makarov is thirty years of age" in 1981?!
Почему нет русских комментариев? Это ведь лучшие годы советского хоккея.да и вообще противлстояния ссср и северной америке.кубок канады это очень классный турнир. Советский любой хоккеист из этой сборной звезда
Zinetula Bilyaletdinov, aka Bill when he was an assistant coach with the original Winnipeg Jets!
The Soviets were clearly the best team in the world for a while.
For quite a while
@@ragnarjonsson1122 I completely agree with you!
Essentially hot housed.
They weren't much better than the US in this game.
XGF were probably 4-3 in USSR favor.
Don't understand not playing
Steve Baker in net, Mike O'Connell
on D (Langevin was awful) and Mark Howe at C.
Also why weren't Mark Pavelich, Bobby Carpenter and Joe Mullen on the team.
My US Team
G Baker Craig VanBiesbrock
D - O'Connell Langway
Morrow Roberts
Larson Dunn
C - Howe - Broten-Pavelich - Ftorek
LW- Carpenter-McClanahan-Christian- B. Miller
RW Mullen-Christoff-Talafous Rowe
So Tony O must have garnered US citizenship? He played for team Canada is the summit series in 72
Esposito played poorly both Canadian games.
Should have gone with a real US Goalie in Steve Baker.
It was unfortunate that Tom Rowe and Mike Fidler had injuries in
1979 that curtailed their careers.
Also Bobby Carpenter should have been on this team. Don't understand why Mike O'Connell
didn't play this game.
24 Sergie Makarov best player in the world at this time.
Tony O didn't belong. US should have gone with Baker.
This talent pool of US Players could have created 4 US Teams competitive with the 1976 US Canada Cup squad. That's how drastic of an improvement in talent and depth there was.
G - Baker-Craig-LoPresti-Janaszak-Janecyk-Skidmore
Vs
G - Lopresti-Curran
Baker, Craig, Janecyk were better than LoPresti-Curran.
USA 1981 D pool vs 1976 D Corp
1976 Top 4 D Corp was
D-Sargent-Milbury-Chartraw-Nyrop
1981 4 Team Top 4D (16D)
LD-Langway-Ramsey-Dunn-Langevin-Roberts-Milbury-Baker-Norwich
RD-Larson-O'Connell-Morrow-Brownschidle-Micheletti-Hangsleben-Anderson-Chartraw
Milbury and Chartraw only top 4D
in '81 pool. You can debate where Milbury sits in '81 pool, maybe a couple of spots higher but not Chartraw.
Much deeper D Corp when a 4 team group is very competitive with the '76 pool.
US Top 6F in '76 IMO were
Ftorek-Howe-Talafous-Bennett
Jensen-Gilbertson
The top 6F in '81 of 4 US Squads of Forwards IMO:
Howe-Broten-Ftorek-Pavelich-Carpenter-Mullen-Christian-Johnson-Holmgren-Rowe-Eaves Christoff-McClanahan-B. Miller
W. Miller-Fidler-Talafous-Gorence
McClanahan-Gorence-Jensen
A. Broten-Bolduc-Younghans
Gorence so add Silk in his place.
Gretzky and Bossy were better than Makarov.
ВЕЛИКАЯ ЗБОРНАЯ СССР ЭТО НА ВЕКА
Nice win for Canada, but that was with Myshkin in the net. The gallows were being prepared for the Canadians for the final though, an 8-1 drubbing. An embarrassment that Canada can never ever ever live down. That's a score you would expect to see in a bantam vs. peewee game, not a game with Gretzky and Bossy on the losing team.
I read through these juvenile comments and want to laugh but cannot summon enough to overcome the feeling of tragedy in them. The Soviet team was together 345 days a year, year after year undergoing grueling conditioning, while the Canadian and American teams are thrown together for two to three weeks and the selection of players is done by a small group of coaches in an even shorter period of time. Despite this process, Canada has still won the CC every tournament except 81 and two out of three World Cup of Hockey tournaments. We all know Mike Liut turned into a complete sieve this game to top it off. Suggesting that Myshkin was any less a goalie than Tretiak is nonsense.
Look back at my first point about the Soviet team being together all year round for years; what has happened since those days and that system ended? The Russians haven't won a single Olympic gold medal in hockey since then with their best showing being a silver. The Athletes from Russia, a name put on them because they were found doping (back to the future with Putin wanting the resurrect the Soviet union) got gold but Canada sent amateurs. Their showing at the World's since the collapse of the Soviet system is not much better.
One has to take a holistic, 10,000 foot view not a 5 foot view of the situation. Also, let me remind you that Gretzky has more scoring points per game in International play than any other player in history. Recall that he had a 5-point game against the best Soviet team ever assembled in 1987 Canada Cup.
Most comments here have a childish theme driven by nationalism and lacking any critical thinking skill. No wonder the world is in so much chaos.
@@jimmypye4460 bla bla, bad loser, that’s what you are.
@@ragnarjonsson1122 LOL. A Swede, throwing medals away, whining every time they lose, calling me a loser. Too fucking funny.
@@ragnarjonsson1122 Oh, I didn't compliment you on your impressive, thoughtful, well-constructed reply. Do the educate you idiots over there in Swampland?
Jimmy Pye, the USSR Team was not 100% The Red Army.
Guys like Myshkin, Vasiliev,
the Golikov brothers played on their own club teams.
I believe 8 out of the 20 1980
USSR players were on other club teams.
Let's not forget they beat the living shit out of the Canadians 8-1 in this tournament. By far the best team in the world at the time. Wasn't even close.
final game Mike Liut was absolutely horrendous, you should have played Donnie Edwards like they did earlier in the tournament when they beat the Russians 7-3
Sounds like a younger Doc Emrick! ;)
Yea, that's him alright, as biased as he ever was.
At least he didn't get any worse.
I don't know why ESPN, and then Sports Channel, had him and Clement for the cup finals broadcasts in the 80's-90's, they really sucked!
I am here to see Tony 0 ,he was my guy.R.I.P.
He was terrible for US. Should have gone with Baker, a real USA Goalie.
Tony Esposito killed the YS in this game and against Canada in the SF.
Should have gone exclusively with Steve Baker.
GG
When will the USA Men ever win another GOLD Medal at the Winter Olympics OR World Championships? Never Perhaps?
Its almost like they made a deal with the devil for the 1980 Gold Medal...lol.
By 1981 the hockey world saw the emergence of the US as clearly one of the top 4 countries in hockey. Canada and the USSR were the two best, but IMO the US would be slightly ahead of Sweden and clearly better than Czech.
The false accusations of wrong doing aimed at the Soviets, by the US media is what eventually drove me to support them."They intentionally switch jerseys" to cheat."Sergei Makarov is thirty years of age" in 1981?!
Soviets were well known for doping, get real clown.