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WE WANT A PC WITH A BUILT IN WATER CHILLER.
You guys clearly missed the 90s ... google Vapochill LS, that was a propper cooling solution ... compact, silent, efficient and not too expensive. Waterchillers are useless marketing BS!
Thermaltake made one several years back. Had a built in freon compressor, condenser, evaporator chamber, radiator, it was a complete unit in a case.
UP
There's also one from Alphacool, nice unit but pricy and still not nearly as convinient as the Vapochill or Prometia units from the 90s. I had both, a Prometia Mach II and later the Vapochill Lighspeed, both really "cool" devices. They where compact and had lot of power.
They already made one. "How to Build the ULTIMATE Sub-zero Phase Change Cooling PC Build Guide"
Simple answer: Cannibalize, and load it up!
but don't drop it!
Do you have to ask? Yes!
Cannibalize and load IT UP!!!
Yes cannibalize it now
go for it
What about submerging the board in mineral oil to prevent moisture condensation.
Well, it is an aquarium cooler.
He could probably even get a good 4 or 5 videos out of that...
I've been thinking about this all week.
Completely agree, sticking with the chiller for water cooling the cpu, but submerge the mb in mineral oil to keep the mb in a moisture free atmosphere. Great idea bud!
Or an airtight vacuum case
"trust me, you'd love my little giant" oh my ;)
LL_2013 Your little giant is really impressing me.
Kinda gay but ohk
it could also be a pet...
I see extra space in the $100,000 PC
Don't forget the GPU cooling too.
ohhhhyeeeeeeaaaahhhh
seconded
Just as I was thinking "wow they're actually doing something a legit way", Alex goes "you want to just stick the tubes in and duct tape it off?"
Well, compared to some of their other jankey solutions, this one isn't as Jank. The the bottle allows for air to escape the system, and it won't overflow, since it's only the contents of one bottle in the system.
Honestly it sounds stupid but it was actually a really good idea. Otherwise they would have to dirty a reservoir with antifreeze.
Linus' reaction was pretty much the perfect reflection of that, at first appalled but after thinking it though realizing it was a good idea.
Linus has genuine concern for pc parts but his employees don't its hilarious
I laugh because I watched him ignore his employee in another video who said to drain a loop, and as soon as he was out of the room Linus just yolod it and spilled water all over the mobo and cpu
@@Cheapiebeepie Lmaoooo
I feel like it's the other way around
He does after he drops the hardware
This is chaos at its best.
The casual way Linus uses the phrase "goatse stretch" will forever haunt my dreams.
Yes Linus, I would like to see this cooler cannibalized and integrated into a system. Put your minions to work immediately.
Randy Marsh with the i7 8700K maybe?
Excellent suggestion.
i7 8086K LE
Completely agree.
Wonder if you can get like LN2 OC performance out of a commercial chiller. Does Linus know any hardcore overclockers?
YES PUT IT IN A SYSTEM
I'd love to see those two circular grommets on the back of some cases actually useful for something.
It's Linus... I'd be surprised if he hasn't already started that 'project'...
this was filmed a month ago, it's probably already done :P
Screw team Jacob. Team LINUS!
YES
“It’ll give you lots of HEAD.. pressure” ;) 3:47
it's just like vaseline caked around the ram ... it's like nerve wracking the way you have to go at it. ~7:20
2:42
"Who does AMD think they are? Intel?" -Linus 2018. Little did Linus know that AMD is now better than Intel.
Amd has always been better, now it's higher performance lol
@Warped Sounds if you say so
Warped Sounds Ok fan boy
The thing about amd being better is its all depending on what you use it for, amd is by far better for productivity but for gaming intel is still the way to go
@Warped Sounds barely. intel is barely exceeding amd in single thread
Finally a proper cooling solution for the 2018 MacBook Pro.
Matthew Marling: hahaha
LMAO
It would probably still overheat...
Matthew Marling why don’t they prebuilt these for bios compatibility and shit before giving to Linus? What the hell does he pay them for?!
No no no we need to make it 10mm thin and 2m x 2m
Use this same setup but drop the motherboard into a mineral oil bath, maybe that'll cancel out the moisture issue? Be like a double crazy setup; liquid chiller mineral oil bathed threadripper 2. Kind of a catchy name actually.
Der 8auer made that: a chilled dual-socket TR2 system submerged in a 3M cooler to prevent condensation. You should check it out. He got like 10500 Cinebench or something (with 2 CPUS, mind you)
That'd be wicked
Oh shit he should.
Upvote so he sees this
Do this! :D
AMD: Here's Threadripper..
And us thinking about Linus: Here's Threadripper-Ripper..
I love the fact that they honestly think that people would want to chill their aquariums to less then the freezing point.
You just insulted the niche group of Arctic/Antarctic fish breeders! (salt water doesn't freeze at 0C and there are valid uses for sub zero aquarium chilling. Just VERY niche ones.)
10:30 39F was the limit of the chiller temp setting range
Linus 💰 saving tips!
Return the pump if you already have one.
why waste money tho the one he already got seem bigger/better.
I wouldve liked it if they still tried the new pump, just to check how the noise level would be when not goint overkill with the pump?
@@meinnase you are stupid beyond belief
Yah, but never mind the $1800 Threadripper!
As an Intel fanboy, Linus was forced to shoot this video to discredit AMD. Disappointing.
13:55 When you tell your girl you've got an overclocked 32-core CPU
Yes
whats up james
her thoughts will probably be:
1."what does he have to compensate"
2.."thank god ist not another Girl"
Little dry ? 🤣
Only If there into computers too otherwise It will just be as moist as it normally is lol
"The worst part about this is that this loop will perform significantly better than yours". I laughed so hard :D :D. The delivery
seeing alex go from this unboxing to the best unboxings on short circuit is astounding
Any cpu company: *releases high end cpu*
Linus: COOLING THE (under cpu name here) USING (random unorthodox method)
This isn't unorthodox if you were in the mod community back in the mid to late 2000s. Hailea's were all the rage (along with TEC pads) back in the X58 OC.
I will watch any of those combinations, even Thunderbird Athlon cooled with ham sandwich
Youve killed more than 2 people and less than 4
Arm CPUs?
re: paul venn
them golden eocf and xs days
"That's a real man's pump. It'll give you lots of head...pressure."
Linus knew exactly what he was doing. 😂
I thought I was the only one that noticed it 😂🤣😂
That little smirk
Love how chill these guys are together.
Linus: 18 million dollar net worth
also linus: REEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY BUY PUMP
it's not that much if you start throwing money like a moron
there is a german saying ... you learn to save from the rich
Warren Buffet eats at McDonalds for breakfast and uses coupons. He's worth $82 billion.
Thats why he is worth 18 million...
Rich people are rich because they live like there poor and poor people are poor because they live like there rich
We're at 59 Freedom Units, whatever that is" 😂😂😂
Kenneth Fitzpatrick when he said that I was rolling! 😂
Sweatshirt indoors, t-shirt outdoors.
Kenneth Fitzpatrick I prefer 69 freedom units
i scrolled down and read this comment about 6 second before he said it.
That's 15°c for the rest of the world
Still awaiting the day that the cinebench score is OVER 9000
can be done already
@Ray Johnson i am sorry did you mean rome
Over 9000?!?!
I see what you did there
I think i have heard that somewhere.
u know ur boss is pretty chill when u can throw things at him
Thanks Linus for bringing such good content for us! Thanks and keep it up because we know you do a lot of hardwork on your video. Keep it up!
"Would you like to see it cannibalized and put into a system?"
Linus... That was a stupid question. It should have been a statement, "We're going to cannibalize it and put it into a system in a future build."
do it linus
This sound is driving me "NUCKING FUTS"
Fuck! You beat me to it!
Bobbie Sterling
Buck! You feat me to it!
4:45 THE MEMORIES ARE FLOODING BACK
Love this video, I always work my way back to it like twice a year
YES PUT IT IN A SYSTEM
I'd love to see those two circular grommets on the back of some cases actually useful for something.
Ps: Just copied this comment, didn't known what to write, copied from Thomas Kain.
Wasn't waiting for that much likes, was just think that the LTT guys would read it, so they would do a follow up video.
why you copying Thomas Kain's comment?
Its Linus
XD i cant wait see it
Antec DF-85.
Alex V yikes
Cooling a CPU with a water chiller?
Intel: "Seems legit"
Also i vote for tearing that chiller apart and building it into a PC, DO IT!
Planning on putting together a 24/7 chilled setup soon-ish, in the research phase. This was oddly helpful to visual what I'll be using
Combined waterloop for several serverchips would be a practical idea .You have to balance the heat from the chips vs the btu of the chiller and so on , add a radiator to the loop and keep the chips at ambient roomtemperature (18 degrees celcius) to prevent condensation. So the chips remain cool but not cold.
Build it into a system... With an air sealed container over the board with a dehumidifier to combat the condensation... :)
You just insulate it and put heaters in-between the insulation. I run super cold 24/7 just fine (block temp peaks at -25c, idle at -58c).
Make sure to water-proof under the socket too, unless you like pins rusting out!
This guy sciences.
i thought most people used Vaseline
Is it really worth it if you are keeping it at room temp? CPU dependent of course but how much performance do you think that would give you above just a large radiator?
@I suck at being bad
Would you done it again, now?
Could you please give some pros and cons, like power consumption, noise level, easy maintenance?
just for reference when you cannibalize this unit you should be able to extract a thermistor which controls the refrigeration side of the system, you're going to want to move the thermistor closer to the CPU AK use thermal plaster and physically plaster it to the water block that way the refrigeration system will have a better response time when the CPU gets warm
couldnt you instead just add another block to the loop and stick it to the thermistor?
the issue is that if left on, the system will freeze the coolant, anti-freeze will fix that, but its just an incredible waste of power as that chiller probably draws a minimum of 150w from the wall
I think you take a page out of AMD's Ryzen playbook and offset the temperature probe :) . a resistor in series if its a PTC (positive temp coeff.) or in parallel if its an NTC type should do the trick, you might even be able to fix the freedom units problem.
indeed, a solution that uses the built in temperature probe would provide the best response and accuracy. Just write some code that could control an arduino's gpio
150W? the thing is already gobbling almost 600W, what's an extra 150, hell maybe next episode he will swap the power unit and hook the thing straight into the street transformer
I am looking forward to seeing Threadripper 3 released and chilled 💡
Yes! We would love to see that, Linus
i WANT TO SEE A PERMANENT SETUP WITH THIS GEAR!!!
same
“This is really compact” *slaps giant chiller*
*Slaps giant chiller* This bad boy can fit so many cools in it.
Compared to other chillers, its pretty small yes.
MEEM CORRECTION
i love that they use the normal messuring system and not 3/4 of itself and 2 foot plus a toe
i just went back in time from 2019, Threadripper 3 is now out, this needs to be tested with this kit again!
Yes! And integrated into a system as suggested in the video.
cool the macbook pro with that.
Up
it will still overheat
Nah. You need LN2 for that.
ooooh yeah i cant wait to see that
Put the whole board in mineral oil to avoid condensation.
that's actually such a sweet idea lol
Mineral oil cooler to below freezing LoL
Cool the mineral oil in the fish tank pc with this
Blake J l
why not put it into epoxy?
“goatse stretch” Jesus Christ
LOL I CAME TO THE COMMENTS TO SEE IF ANYONE NOTICED!
I mean he asked for it
2:42
Here because I used an Active Aqua Chiller Refrigeration Unit, 1/4 HP to keep Axolotls in Florida. Nice to see I have another use for it if need be.
YES PLEASE INTEGRATE IT INTO A SYSTEM
put it on the $100,000 build!!!!!!!
Ya, good idea, so you can waste $100,000 whenever it breaks !
R.I.P $100.000
Probably wouldn't fit considering the hardware he already has planned to go in.
spray the board with a hydrophobic film and either tilit it or have it upside down with channels to carry moisture away from components. Bottle the collected water and sell it to fans of the show.
the worst part of this idea...there are those that would buy it XD
Just seeing this. When Lines did the water cooling of a room with pipes and it failed years ago I commented he should try using a aquatic chiller.Well I finally got to see it. Nice!
PLZ CANNIBALIZE IT AND TURN IT INTO A SYSTEM!!!!!!!
That $100k PC he's building definitely needs this
Y they should put it in the 100k system
YEA JUST DO IT LINUS!
Put in in the 100k system, but only after you add RGB and hard line water cooling
Plz!!!!
Intel forgot to mention they used a chiller, yet a small Canadian CZcams channel remembered to mention it. Imagine that.
Seon-Ho since when was a youtuber with 7 million subs a small youtuber and im also pretty sure he works in ibm or something idk
"small"
Relative to Intel? Besides, it's funnier to say a small Canadian CZcams channel.
Well Linus is a small Canadian CZcamsr
It's amazing what ethical and legal differences there will be between a company with a brand that genuinely cares and relies upon their consumers to keep themselves afloat, and a company that's become complacent and intentionally misleading. (I.e., Linus Media Group compared to Intel.)
His remark about the “worst thing” about that loop really hit me.
Yes! Do it . I'm working on a build just like this
When your friends come over to play Fortnite but they think your pc is a meth lab so they run away
😂😂😂😂
Try putting the PC inside a drybox or a dry room (dehumidifier in a room). There won't be condensation if there isn't any water vapour to condense.
that's actually really interresesting
Yes there will. Only way to totally get rid of condensation is the put it in a total vacuumed space
A good idea in theory, but not in practice. No humidity means high chance of static electricity, which can easily kill components. That's why server rooms and raised floors tend to run at around 30-50% humidity all the time.
what if you fill it with sf6 gas?
Mineral oil!
this will always be one of the greats
I've used these for watercooling astrophotography CCD cameras -- pretty effective.
YES!!! *CANNIBALIZE AND INTEGRATE!!* For the love of god, *YES!*
YES!!! CANNABIS!! YES!
Yes! Go canibalize the "7editors rig"!
Yes. 😶
please do it
Yes
Luke looks different nowadays
@DCED unfortunately... 😞
Lol dick
becuase it is "smaller luke" lol
That's pre super soldier serum Luke.
Now with 15% more social awkwardness! ;)
My head: Threadripper
My mouth: red thripper
Alex and his cheeky smile get me everyone 😂
If only there was a machine that could be used to De-Humidify a Room so that when you run these experiments you didn't have to worry about Condensation
/sarcasm
yeah they could get an dehumidifier plus an aircon and put the computer on a separated room and only bring the keyboard, mouse and video cables out and just go bonkers with it
they should use a dehumidifier to cool a system
I mean Going Bonkers is what they do. So why not have a testing room specifically for these crazy projects!
:thonk:
Run it on a mineral oil submerged kit, then it won't condensate and you can run it super low.
Bob, always the voice of reason... And blowing a guy for coke.
Good idea.. Awesomeness.
Unless you have active circulation, submerging isn't actually that effective. It heats up pretty fast.
just submerge the loop with it. Btw that depends in what you submerge, "novek" seems to work pretty well since the vaporization is essentially a "passive circulation", that is needed like you mentioned.
let's copy/paste so linus can see .. caus this is brilliant.
Had free cooling in Alaska with no worries about condensation, -40C outside with no measurable humidity, set the computer outside then use keyboard, mouse and video extension to sit nice and warm inside
Linus is such an interesting personality, idk why there's a certain charm about him that makes me wanna listen to him
Of course we want to see that cannibalized and integrated. This is the kind of wacky stuff we don't see in the modern age of easy computer building
He's Linus Tech Tips, so we probably will be seeing that anyway
Verlisify didnt expect to see you here
ew.
Verlisify we don’t wanna see amd period
@@FlopFan69 a wannabe Intel fan boy who probably doesn't even have a pc, since your channel is full of pokeshit ;) and not to mention, going to every comment and responding with "AMD sucks". Pathetic
We want more Alex' unboxings, specially if he throws the parts at Linus as it goes.
"Trust me, you'll like my little giant" ~ Linus, 2018
I love the banter
Integrate it in the "multiple Workstation - 1 CPU"!
WS2808 *oooooo yes daddy*
in the 100.000$ pc?
Yes, I do want to see it integrated into a system. But can it cool the i9 macbook pro?
Not even in your dreams
Rack mount chiller?
Boring
this is pretty much the same as asking if it can fix the charging port on the magic mouse... nothing can fix pure stupidity
Can it cool Crysis?
I used one of these aquarium coolers with a PC cooling radiator to make a mini air conditioner for my pet.
Ive had a Hailea HC-500 chilling my tower for a long time. works good but pretty loud.
9:36 “and that noise is driving me nucking futs” Linus 2018
the pump he used. not the chiller.
Who knew linus was an Australian burnout comp fan. Nucking futs is a burnout car in aus
Nucking Futz is the catch phrase of David Spade in the Dicki Robeson movie...
@@Warm_Summer_Rain A woman of culture.
@@Warm_Summer_Rain It's been a saying since like the 70's.
15:43 you should really do it and name the video "Cannibal dropocaust/Dropenstein cooling system" or something like that.
Oh yeah
Please just do it LINUS
Do it
dropocaust would probably get demonetized
Please
I had to google "dew point" to fully understand the complexity of this super cooling/ overclocking video... I feel smarter now for the future
This was an interesting cooling video. Totally won't be doing at all any of this stuff to my computer
You're adding a LOT of heat using such a large inefficient pump like a little giant. I suggest using a controllable DC pump where you can dial in the flow while not adding as much external heat.
This is a rhetorical statement.
Big giant*
The could just put the pump in a pull configuration and conect the water cooler directly to the die
Actually since those coolers adjust colling according to the temp of the fluid it doesnt matter what pump you use. You just need to have the pump feed the cooler not the block.
It really is nothing in comparison to the cpu.
I'm on Linus's team, cannibalize it!!!!
Yes! Let’s see it in a rig!!!
I've used a little giant for appliance repair applications (removing water from undesired areas mostly) and oh boy do those things pull.
You bought a water chiller for an aquarium and expected it go below the freezing temperature of water... those are some high expectations.
water chillers can be freezing but they limit it hence why over clocking a waterchiller is a bad idea for warranty sake you can cut the limiter off and it will go below what the compressor can do
Don't you have polar bears in your aquarium?
i think you dont really understand the comment link99912 made
Lmao, that was great.
If you mean in the video, they didn't.
500w CPU running at under 40C. This is your most insane video ever.
and then you realize he used windshield washer fluid instead of actual coolant...
the other interesting thing is that people use windshield wiper fluid in aftermarket methanol injection setups on performance cars to keep temp's down and prevent detonation. It is a pretty versatile product lol.
Yeah, 500w for 4.0Ghz, not 5Ghz ^_^ 5Ghz needs a ton of voltage, which means it will go over 1k w.
Consumes less than the 7980XE when overclocked to 4.0GHz and has 14 more cores. I'd say that's not bad at all for a 32 core chip.
7980XE uses an architecture from 2015, 2990WX uses ZEN+ which is an architecture of april 2018. To you, a 3 year old architecture should be as power efficient as the new ones ? Using your logic, a 2 core CPU from 2006-8 should use 15 watts ?
Yes that's not bad for a 32 core, but don't compare to a CPU that is using architecture that is in the technology market, ancient.
My problem is that a 28 core on 5.0 uses over 1000w from the wall. but people think that a 32 core on 5.0ghz will pull 300 watts.
When a 32 core on 5.0 uses 1200w no one bats an eye, but when a 28 core uses 1000w everyone loses their minds.
People think that 4.0GHZ = 5.0GHZ in terms of power consumption. Because they compare the watts from a 28 on 5.0 and from a 32 core on 4.0.
9:35 “nucking futs” I love it 😂
Yeah! Build a workstation in big cube case with integrated chiller!
I see this 100% with "Whole room watercooling". This would actually be profitable. The bad noise would be in another room while all PCs would be running hecking low on temps.
Too much heat to handle i think
@@branislavkondic8381 nah I don't agree, this thing can do such low temps so setting it at like 20°C, it would make the heat spread pretty good and all machines would get a surely higher, but still pretty low temperature.
@@potato_x69 may I eat you
He said a tenth of a horsepower that's in the 70 Watts. Really not good enough.
The water would reach equilibrium, it can handle the heat.
I have a crazy idea!!
Use that cooler to cool all the machines in the editing room! Kinda like you guys did back at the old house with the full copper water cooling loop. That would be cool to see.
This cooler unit could have some use if you using it to cool several computers all at once?
Exactly what I was talking about! excited box
Kale Mercer this is actually a really good idea, hopefully they will try this, maybe not with a bunch of expensive machines though, maybe some old hardware just to test it out at first
tough the same here.
Trust me they won't. The full room water-cooling was such a pain in the ass end never worked, especially since the editors lost a lot of time because there PC's weren't working for 90% of the time
true, but would be funny to see ;-.)
Chemist here. If you want to reduce the amount of dew on the lines run an A/C full blast in the room you wish to run this setup in. It will wick most of the moisture from the air.
Get a S&A CW-5200. They are used in cooling laser engravers and have an integrated tank and pump.
Linus, allow him to preform all future unboxing. Notice how he didn’t drop ANYTHING. Submitted for your consideration.
Except he threw a power cord at Linus.
"Trust me you'll like my lil' giant"
- Linus 2018
>Goatsee stretch
You're a fucking legend, Linus.
Build that chiller!
Yes! Put into a system. You REALLY should use the recommend buffer tank size to limit short cycling the compressor on the chiller. Thank you very much for taking this suggestion I gave you guys over a year ago. However, because you have the hardware, how many systems can you fit onto one chiller? Also, you can put the chiller and pump into a different room to completely eliminate any sound complaints.
Whole room water chiller.
I like the way you think.
I bought an aquarium chiller a few years back and incorporated it in a loop. Amazing results!
You can easily insulate those lines with something called tundra insulation that is available at plumbing supply stores. Its black foam and flexible like the tubes.... kinda. It will keep the condensation from forming on the lines. The water block is a different story. A coating of some sort of foam cut and glued on might do the trick.
imagine the insane fire ball CPUs AMD and Intel can crank out with cooling like this. imagine using liquid nitrogen and having a CPU that equals it out
Imagine getting 90c load temps with liquid nitrogen but getting cinebench score of 6198751