Dalrymple’s Anarchy To Be Major TV Series Revealing British Loot And Plunder of India - The Details
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William Dalrymple’s epochal book ‘The Anarchy’, on the history of how the East India Company transformed from a Elizabethan trading corporation to become the rulers of India through loot and plunder, is to become a major blockbuster television series, likely to be produced on a scale we haven’t seen for a long time. In an interview to The Wire, the author, William Dalrymple, talks about the book, the television series, its producer and scriptwriter and the spectacular production that is planned.
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Anarchy is an incredible book. I would suggest it to almost anyone who has even a passing interest in history
William Dalrymple is a nice man. I had written to him back in 2009 to translate 'The last Mughal' to Hindi so that my father could read it too who is not very good with English. He replied to me with 3 hours and indeed the book was translated as he promised.
What a considerate response by Willi! Lovely. What did your father think of the book? I'd love to read his views as a local and senior.
The finest, most nuanced writer of Indian history, bar none..
Huge respect to both of you...The book is iconic.
Thank you dear William Dalrymple for illuminating us about the tapestry of our past. 🙏
It was so much pleasure to listen great Darylmple..Anarchy is best book on history of east India company. Can't wait for series to come out.
Quality Podcast, Quality Historian, Quality Interviewer, Quality Everything! Shoutout to Anita Anand for making The Empire as much of an interesting podcast to listen to! I have been hooked on to it ever since you guys released the first Episode.
Mr Dalrymple makes reading of history extremely enjoyable. Such a gifted writer and story teller. He is easily one of my favourite writers
You are right, he really makes history perusal a enjoyable outing, especially the quotes that are peppered through out the book, the pace at which you turn the page is fast as no point to you feel bogged down the narration is very illuminating at every junction. You feel like wanted to find out what happened to the sultan's of Srirangapatnam, the Nizams of Hyderabad, the Marathas, or the supreme Mughals. May such narrative always flourish. One can also discover how the background forces which supported the Nawabs of Bengal to come to power the power brokers such as Jagat Seths or the bankers.
William's empire podcast is the absolute top tier thing in the podcast scene right now. Absolutely brilliant and everyone with an interest in history should listen to it.
Please share link or something
Andhbhakths life turned upside down after watching this interview 😅
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@@truth0106 Adani Chamcha. 😂
@Football-Pundit bhosidke me Maratha hu.....
@@Asoka-great it is Indian Empire....😎
@Football-Pundit lol exactly. Now this anpad andh bhakt will be confused and wondering what is EIC 😅
After living in India for so long, still hangs on to his anglicised pronunciations of place names etc😊
I have reread The Anarchy & it is the most fascinating book I have ever read on Indian History
The Empire podcast is excellent. The conversational approach makes it so easy to consume and there is plenty of humor and emotion thrown in so it sounds like we are listening to an old friend tell stories.. so highly recommended.
The east india company invested in a private army not to take over India but to protect their trade interests. However soon they realized that they could take over the country. The multiple uprisings and the company's inability to quell them and govern efficiently made the Crown to take over.
It takes a person with high acumen and clear thinking to make such an intelligent comment. As much as I detest the British for colonizing us, I blame ourselves for letting a Trader becoming our Master’
Mainly the elites funded them, Jagat Seths, Marwaris etc.
The English were afraid that France will take India first and use India to disrupt English global trade. So they decided to take India first.
@@deccanheart True and the REALLY SAD Part is that the Corporation was so easily and effectively able to accomplish its' objectives using Capital loaned to it by Our Very Own Rich Indians and their hired Indian Sepoys. I believe that afore facts should be told loudly in the Series.
The podcast (Empire) made with Anita Anand is brilliant. Well worth listening to.
Wow, it was the cherry on the cake for a History student like me👏👏 Thanks to The Wire🙇
GREAT show and people should support them. I am a PAKISTANI but I can support by using international wire transfers. I live in Canada 🍁.
Blockbuster already!!
Listen to Shashi Tharoors lecture at the Oxford Univercity debate. Read his book too.
And listen to this mans definition of history and the role of historians. Our present hovt should note how this man is telling the truth, as he sees it , to his country.
William has been living in India for 20 years in Delhi.
Tharoor's points are mostly rubbish. He wrote his third rate book in just 12 days.
William Dalrymple is more Indian than you or I.
A big fan of Dalrymple here - read all of his books. Extremely happy to see two giants of their fields talking here about this promising series. Looking forward to it!
One of the best books I’ve read, it will transport you back in time, I really hope the film does it justice.
Thank you The Wire to cover this material. Dalrymple's scholarship is priceless.
The Anarchy is one of his best authorship. It so closely reads like a screenplay.
I believe the TV series will keep away the history-deniers from vandalising the truth ! Congratulations ! 🙏
he is a stupo just because it suits your narrative you are saying what you are saying..shame
@@deoman99 Unless you can refute his researched claims you are just a troll
@@deoman99 yeah just a dumb fiction writer intertwining fiction with small dosage of facts and propagating false narrative
No serious history student refers to this guy ,not even as a side note
@@deoman99 chup mc !
@@kartiksreedhar4219 What Dalrymple is saying is true about the British looting India's valuable material wealth, but, most importantly, to pander to the pervasive nationalist lobby, spurred by the Hindu right wing, he's omitted the invaluable inputs provided to India by the British such as unification of the country, administration, modern education, hospitals, post and telegraphs, railways, printing press and other modern tech, English language, scientific temper, universities, etc that Nehru capitalized on to further strengthen the foundation of free India. He's apparently funded by the Hindutva looby.
I have just started few days back reading this book and today this interview come.😊what a coincidence
They could manipulate because India was not a country but with hundreds of kingdoms and all were trying to pull each other down , these kings connived with the east India company to outsmart the others, even when Britain took over there was still about 600 independent princly states who willingly accepted the Britishers as superior and were eager to please them.
Perfect summation. Few Elites are controlling India even now. All else are Sheep who blindly follow the path of the grass thrown at them.
Correct!
That's just not true, yes they tried to use the east India company to their own use and were selfish rulers who wanted to topple others , but this was a divide and rule strategy, one that failed at first as they were losing their grip on India , it was because of this that the actual monarchy of England then ordered thier navy to come and take over , and it wasn't a case of accepting superiority, they just had overwhelming power through guns and battle formation using them which gave them superiority, and as each state fell bit by bit they grew stronger, however it was a long time before they got most of India and that to with a patchwork of treaties known as the British raj , real history is deep and complicated especially that which spans hundred of years ,
@@killa1234560 The British government took over in 1858 after Sepoy Mutiny.
@@killa1234560 The divide and rule policy was the policy of the British, and it would not have succeeded if the Indians too were not happy about dividing and ruling over each other. But the main point here is the complicity of Indians. Remember, even at the absolute height of British power there were not more than 30,000 English men/women in India. For 30,000 people to rule over almost 250 million people, and that too within a span of just 300+ years, is impossible unless the locals actively or meekly participate in it. Those "battle formations" you talk about overwhelmingly involved Indian sepoys, and those "guns" and cannon you mention were in fact coveted by Indian states to fight against each other. A lot is being said about how India before the British and the Mughals was a "peaceful" and happy place. It was NOT. For centuries before the almost 500 kingdoms and princely states were busy warring against each other and killing each other. Historically, India was a subcontinent in constant conflict and upheaval.
Great to hear some good news for a change!! Dalrymple is a genius and his books deserve the widest possible audience!
Lovely interview, Karan. what a delightful interview with William Dalrymple!! History should be read as it is without any biases!!
Isnt East India company backed by Britain , and ultimatly takenover completely ?
Love The Anarchy, love The Empire, can't wait to hear/read/see more from William.
I am definitely going to buy this book. My namaste to Mr Dalrymple 🙏
What a rapport! 👏
We need all Indian history, particularly of the recent periods, be written accurately, not glorifying various characters. But then, will Indian historians ever be allowed to write history without "waving the tricolor" or some other flag? We are, of course, in the business of erasing history rather than recording it truthfully.
Thanks Wire for sharing knowledge on the important issues.
Looking forward to the tv show
Dalrymple should do a compare of colonial US and colonial India. The TV series Turn showed the cat and mouse game between the British and Washington. What was interesting was how nicely the British treated Americans compared to Indians. Although in America they had the savage"Queen's Rangers" to assassinate Americans who posed a threat to Britain, there was no such team in India - probably because the entire British military were in effect the savage "Queen's Rangers" - they didn't need to pretend in India.
Fantastic idea and did not know of the Queens Rangers!
We want more of such interviews. Thanks
One of the most fascinating interview by Karan. Looking forward to the onscreen adaption of the best history book ever written.
Thank you for the video. I learnt something new today! Gonna get the book!
one of the key points of to take away, Indians...mainly businessmen sponsored the East india company, needs to be discussed at a national level.
Fabulous and thank-you!
Let's hope that bollywood doesn't mess up with the series.
As always take love sir william Dalrymple ❤
My favorite author
I love history ❤
Wow.......Eagerly Waiting For The Series....The Book Was Just Awesome.......🤘💞
The Anarchy is a must read for every student of Indian history..
After Game Of Thrones if dis series is made it's gonna create Tsunami in the tv history.
This was known to anybody with half a brain and/or an objective understanding of history. So the thing that needs to be highlighted is that a few (in number, both during the East India Company and direct rule periods) English/British people were able to establish control and dominion over a teeming subcontinent with the active participation and abetment of the locals - those Indian bankers and the Indian sepoys and even some of the princely states - who were only too happy to put aside considerations of kin, kith and community to aid and participate in their own subjecthood and enslavement, purely for personal greed and gain. Right? This needs to be understood in light of the repeated and self-righteous Indian claims of how terrible the British were in India (which they were) to the "peaceful and hospitable" Indians but which somehow gloss over the active and quite questionable role of Indians in this venture. The British would never have succeeded to the extent they did if Indians had been resolute from the very beginning in thwarting them. But a feudal mindset, considerations of personal gain, and the hunger of many of the Indian princes to receive gun salutes from the British overrode all considerations of pride, dignity and freedom until much later. If anything, all those chest thumping Indians currently screeching about "patriotism" and "colonial mindset" should now be ashamed about their ancestors.
I have read his book.
I sincerely hope the series makers will do justice to his excellent history book
Very nice interview ❤
lovely guy! of course a history writer holds grip on various cultures but the way he parallel references is really great to hear.
I got goosebumps just thinking about the major characters,Hope to see it someday
Looking forward to the series
Look forward to reading the book which has been on my list! Sure the series will be good
fantastic!
No serious economic historian believes the cuckoo bird statistics of Angus Maddison on which people such as Dalrymple base their wild notion that India was the richest country in the world in 1800. The Spinning Jenny has already been invented in 1764, a year before the Battle of Buxar. The British were technology ahead at least 200 years of any Indian ruler in 1764. The contrast was that stark.
Yet the British required huge amounts of raw materials for their machines which is where India comes in a valuable colony supplying these raw inputs.
@@Bhumichavda1 PS Or read the books of Tirthankar Roy, Professor of Economic History at the London School of Economics.
👍🏼 I must read this book..
SUPERB HISTORICALLY 👏👏👊👍
Insightful
You are doing a great job. Keep it up
Fantastic Karan! It did sound like history if satan! :)) thank you for askung William to clarify! My ancestors hailed from Lucknow, Hyderabad and Calcutta so i loved Williams books and look forward to the series.
Looking forward to this series .I read this book about half a decade ago and enjoyed it throughly …..Will the series be aired on OTT platform…?
I wonder how current India would take such revealation
Oh Empire is absolutely brilliant. Please listen to it every one
Wonderful.
❤ 😍 love it .
Very fascinating This will turn The History Upside Down 😂😊
Excellent
Money is the common denominator.
The British started interfering politically in India only after they felt that the French might take India first. Both the British and the French were afraid that the other side might take India first and use India's great strategic location and manpower to disrupt the global trade networks of the other side. "So before the other side takes India, let us take India first" was the thinking. During the Battle of Plassey, Britain and France were fighting the global Seven years war where British and French forces were fighting each other on three continents. Those powers who were suspected to be close to the French (Tipu Sultan, Marathas etc..) were conquered. Those who were on the side of British became the princely states and were allowed to be semi independent with their own tax systems and coins. Not 100 percent exact but roughly so.
Three cheers to Bollywood but the task is very gigantic and on a very big scale like Mughl-e-Azam. I have read the book 'Anarchy' and feel that it's a result of very long and thorough research over 6 years. It is very difficult to convert a book so deeply rooted in the research could be converted into a TV Series without a very ambitious and big budget. A very challenging and risky project. Good Luck to the team of Bollywood to take up this project!
It seems like Karan Thapar is just promoting his book. He should ask critical question about the authencity of the matter in the book?
It's superb book
Historians are not kings. They are kingmakers. And they do this just by the tip of their pens!!! Isn't that mind boggling!!
@@sandeepanb2005 where they say things like History in the obfuscated lens of Baudralian Simoulcroum and Zizekian paradox of The Other
@@sandeepanb2005 no I don't subscribe to that ..I subscribe to a journal that publishes articles by Alan Sokal...you people know him right...he is quite famous in your Circles of sophists for Sokal Affair...You people fear him like Vampires fear Holy water....to promote gibberish having some deepest philosophical insights is a Passionate Vocation of you...not me...we belive in Rigourous, Scientific,Clear Thinking..unlike in the intellectually Fraudulenet field of yours
One of the best podcast at the moment on spotify.
Too many very important characters seem very difficult to cover and left whom, very big project, interesting!
Can Mr. Dalrymple organically differentiate the British (Ruling classes ) govt.'s interests from the Interest of corporate that was East India Company
When i read it i had thought it would make a great series, so glad it's being made, looking forward to it! Hope the white Mughals is also made into a series or a movie
And so it follows that the British-indian trading company has been busy switching head offices when British and Indian citizens were busy getting jabs during the pandemic. A gradual, almost langorous process of the baton switching hands.
When is the TV series releasing
Please have Dr Vikram Sampath in the next interview
Dalrymple has extensive knowledge. He's a gem.
I hope the RSS role and Savarkar's apology, stpend and support of East India Company is thoroughly showcased in the series..
Idiot it was British Crown for whom Muslims led by Jinnah was a bootlicker
Cry more
@@mayurkanth6987 do you differ?
@@SinghalLouis Those who celebrate Nehru are in no position to comment on Savarkar.
@@mayurkanth6987 okay.. tell me 5 things Savarkar has done for India's freedom struggle, and I'll tell you 5 things how he betrayed India's freedom struggle.. and then let the people decide
Has Adani replaced the East India Company, in present time, thanks to Modi Shah regime's policy of religious Divide & Rule???
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The dutch west india company and Thr dutch east india company, which were the biggest slave trading companiesin history, enjoyed monopolies over the shipment and sale of African slaves.
The hero of the Series - Jagat Seth. More like Ramadhir Singh of Gangs of Wasseypur.
Adding to my International Tax studies viewing
How about 1858 onwards after 1st mutiny? That is British Raj..I remember reading term company raj in history..it is not surprising to Indian..just pick 5th grade social science book in India..it clearly mentions this..people may not be aware of extent of this but everyone is aware of divide and then occupy strategy...but surely it will be interesting to watch...what i want is continuation into British raj and an honest and brutal coverage of that
In all discussions, we talk about the history of India, which is after the invasion by foreigners. No one to date has bothered to ask why our Hindu-era (Pre-invasion) kings and priests failed to protect our borders even though we were very wealthy at that time. Our country went down to poorer and smaller countries! So, it is important that we explore Hindu wisdom that prevailed and influenced the governance at that time.
As per my reading, this Hindu religion and the ancestors who wrote it destroyed our motherland by dividing it using the caste system. Unfortunately, this caste system not only made the skilled working class of India the lowest class, the Shudras, but also dehumanised them by establishing them as untouchable slaves! Slaves who toiled under the boiling sun for a hand-to-mouth existence! They were never allowed to educate, so they could not read or write. Mind you, they were not the tainted feather of the flock but the best of the lot. The old palaces and temples of India are the blood and sweat of these untouchables. However, they never got remunerated for their skilled labour and hard work. The Hindu priests and puranas they wrote were used to instil the fear of God in them. This grotesque abuse of the Shudras continued for millennia. This decimated the skilled working class in India and India's future!
We are constantly told by the vedic brahmins about the greatness of our religion and our Gods. But aren't they all in books only? We do not have a single piece of evidence of these Gods standing by the Hindu people of India. When the invaders came, all our kings and rulers ultimately failed! What happened to the much-touted Hindu mantras, rituals, priests and Gods? What benefit did we derive by continuously praying and doing poojas, building massive temples and giving the most expensive alms to the Gods and priests?
Furthermore, my ancestors also prayed to these Gods standing 90 feet away from the temple to escape from the draconian untouchability laws, but their prayers were never answered. So, what benefit have we Hindus derived from these Gods and religious beliefs. Nonetheless, the damages caused by the Hindu caste-based division of India will continue for centuries to come. The parivarvadi caste-based reservation system put in place by Hinduism is the most damaging form of feudalism in this world.
Hope some historians will one day write about the orchestrated anarchy in Hindu India, revealing the loot, plunder and dehumanisation of the skilled working class of India.
For some interesting reason, places which got civilization early due to good geographical reasons (good farmlands) like Egypt, Iraq or India tend to have a less than great military history and often get conquered by outsiders. This was also the case with China upto some extent, where some of their dynasties were non Han. Egyptians did not rule themselves for nearly 2000 years. Once the Persians conquered Egypt then it was the Greeks, Romans, Byzantines, Arabs, Mameluks, Turks, British (independence in 1920s) then Albanian King until Nasser who was the first Egyptian to really rule Egypt after 2000 years!
@@mudra5114 Part of the reason for the failure of these regimes is their blind faith in their gods and religions. Also, they never had a religion that took a vice-like stranglehold on the land's governance and the common man's day-to-day life as Hinduism did. Hinduism destroyed the creamy layer of India, the skilled working class of India by making them untouchable slaves. They were slaves of their kings and their fellow Hindus! And even the Hindu Gods never cared for them. So how can these people put their faith back on these cruel and unhelpful Gods?
In India, we are still hell-bent on using the time-disproved religion and Gods to resurrect our country with no consideration for the sentiments of the people whose lives are bedevilled by the inhumane rules of this religion. To this day, the Hindu religion and its heads have not bothered to strike off the dehumanising aspects of the Hindu religion. Furthermore, they continue to ridicule Gandhiji, Nehru and other freedom fighters who gave a motherland to these outcasts of Hinduism, the Shudras. These leaders brought the semblance of equality to our highly discriminatory and crude Hindu religion.
Either the Hindu religion must reform, or the Hindus must accept our constitution that supports equality. Equality is essential if we are to succeed as a nation. At present, 40% of the Judges in the supreme court are Brahmins, even though they form only 4% of the population. This gross disparity is because of the millennia-long Hindu practice of allowing only the Brahmins to educate. The vedic brahmins who wrote the Hindu puranas never promoted equality in India to preserve their right to dictate. So I cannot see how these vedic Brahmins and their one-sided Hinduism can ever bring peace and prosperity to India!
Do yourself a favour and listen to the Empire podcast. The way history should be taught in schools.
William has introduced us to our true history, there were several narratives but its important to get it right for both India and England. How tragic that we allowed a small third rate company to take over a whole country. And both Pakistan and India continue to pay the price to this day!
Aka they will white wash the history, show light skin indians , not show the actual fighters who wanted war but show peace loving indians who only want to talk about freedom, and oh of course there will be some love story of indian women and British soldier who only did what he was ordered and was really a lover boy lmao 🤣
Pls all like this interview
Shyam Benegal should direct A'narchy' if he is still up to it. Or even Shekhar Kappor.
That will cost more. I hope you donate them and then you can be a patron and suggest them this on their "members only" sections.
It was enough of an insult that Anarchy the book made so much money, now it will loot India by TV as well. Very sad.
Hi sir
I hope this series would be on the same footing as the great GOT .that would do the justice.
This is not a TV interview where there's a limit on the time. So why not show some courtesy and welcome the guest before starting with the questions.
😂😂 wonderful 👍👍
Looking forward to this one. My only suggestion - don't use real elephants - they suffer too much during such events.