The Good And Bad Of The Lord Of The Rings Franchise
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- čas přidán 10. 05. 2024
- Flashback to the holiday season of 2001. After years of filming, the first film in Peter Jackson’s The Lord of the Rings trilogy, The Fellowship of the Ring, is due to hit theaters, and expectations are sky high. With all three films already shot and in the process of being completed, everything is riding on the first movie being a success because if it flops, New Line has got two more pricey movies they still have to finish (they were in a similar position to Disney with the Avatar films). But not only is The Fellowship of the Rings a smash hit but critics and audiences alike hail the film as a new classic. Overnight, Peter Jackson becomes one of the biggest directors in the business, and the Fellowship’s cast, which includes Viggo Mortensen, Elijah Wood, and a then-unknown Orlando Bloom, become icons overnight.
Peter Jackson's The Hobbit trilogy divides fans. While many were thrilled that Jackson and collaborators Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens returned to Middle Earth to film this adaptation of J.R.R Tolkien's book, more than a few fans felt the movies didn't live up to what had come before. Indeed, following up the Lord of the Rings trilogy would never be easy. Those films are regarded as modern classics, with the third movie, The Return of the King, even winning Best Picture and Director Academy Awards. How do you follow up a classic?
Indeed, there was never really supposed to be a Hobbit trilogy, with Guillermo del Toro initially attached to turn Tolkien's tome into a 2-movie tale. Eventually, del Toro had to depart the project due to ongoing delays and Jackson, to the delight of fans, stepped in as a director, expanding the project's scope to three films. While many wondered how Tolkien's slim novel would provide enough material for three movies, Jackson said they would be taking material from the appendices Tolkien published with Return of the King. Jackson also would be shooting the films in 3D using the then-novel HFR (High Frame Rate) technical, which meant the first film, An Unexpected Journey, would be the first feature to be shown in 48 FPS.
In the end, the films were all successful, but they played to diminishing returns. The film movie made over a billion dollars worldwide, and the follow-ups, The Desolation of Smaug and The Battle of the Five Armies, would gross almost as much - but not more. While some fans loved the movies, others found them padded out, with each movie running close to three hours (the extended editions are even longer) and the 48fps technique getting very mixed reviews.
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LOTR is GOAT Trilogy
I'm pretty damn sure you're absolutely right! Adore fellowship! Defo my favourite ❤
I prefer the original Star Wars trilogy (non special edition) myself, simply because I prefer sci fi but I can't deny LOTR is superior. Tolkien's depth in his world building and characters is unmatched.
What are we talking about here? Fantasy? The Godfather, even with the 3rd on being mid, is the greatest trilogy of all time. The godfather part 2 is the greatest movie ever made and the first is top 10 if not top 5 all time. LOTR doesn’t have a single movie in the top 50 ever made.
I think it’s important to note that the director’s cut of all three movies adds a lot of crucial content that was cut out of the theatrical releases. Long runtimes becoming even longer, I know, but for the real fans this is the way to go. We all loved the theatrical releases, of course, but once you see the extended versions, there’s no going back. They’re all on Max currently.
I own all the movie regular and extended. The extended ones r the only way to see them. Especially if u r seeing them for the first time
The extended cuts of Peter Jackson’s movies are the best.
Nothing is bad about LOTR trilogy it's literal perfection
The huge demon in the mine of Moria is called the Balrog.
The best Trilogy of all time. I watched it all during Lockdown, and I have no regrets.
One does not simply just not rewatch the trilogy since lockdown and call themselves a fan, there are men and fouler beasts of this parts that do not eat, do not sleep and have the precious on repeat
RIP Bernard Hill
So this guy keeps saying how much he loves the Lord of the Rings movies, how he's seen them so many times, and yet he keeps getting small but important things wrong.
Like calling the Mine of Moria the Mines of Moira ... I mean I'm sure she doesn't mind her mine being name checked and all ;)
He also keeps calling Saruman's army, Sauron's army when they are two very distinct units fighting battles hundreds of miles apart.
He states Frodo betrays Gollum to save himself which he does not. He is just fine, in no danger, only Gollum is in danger from Faramir's men. Frodo saves Gollum out of pity.
Gandalf didn't steal the Palantir from Saruman, they find it in the wreckage of Isengard (in the book Wormtongue throws it from an upstairs balcony at Gandalf trying to hurt/kill him).
Frodo doesn't win the fight with Gollum at Mount Doom, he loses when Gollum bites his finger off and they both topple over the edge.
As I said, probably small details, but if they are going to include them in the video why not make them accurate?
My all time favourite trilogy, with ROTK being my absolute favourite. Cannot top that “for Frodo…” moment, it gets me every time. Loved that we got Peter Jackson back for the Hobbit and I cannot wait to see what this new addition with Jackson & Serkis returning will bring to the adventure that is middle earth
The 2 main issues I always hear from people are the long runtimes and ROTK’s many endings
I recently saw the whole trilogy with my daugthers and love it. It doesn’t matter the 3 hours per movie or three endings. It’s the best trilogy ever made
What’s wrong with the Hobbit trilogy? Where to start?
It should have been 1 film telling the story in the book, not 3 films full of padding and crap that is not in the book! And having most of the effects done digitally makes the film look ridiculous! And adding characters that were not in the book (too numerous to count), added to the film’s ridiculousness!
It was all just shite! I couldn’t get past the second film. And I have loved the Hobbit since 5th grade!
I also loved the LOTR films! Extended versions for the win!
But the Hobbit films were a big disappointment for me. I couldn’t even be a completist, which irks my nerd values to no end!
I’ve stuck through to the end of some crappy series before just to complete them. But not this one.
Just finished rewatching the extended trilogy last week with my 14yr old daughter. One of the best trilogies ever. We then followed that up by watching the latest Pkanet of the Apes trilogy; another one of the best trilogies ever 💯
Great Vid. I guess as a fan there wasn't much new information, but then I'm not the target audience.
One minor criticism: The background music you used in the beginning was very irritating - at least with headset on.
LOTR series is my absolute favorite book series. It was my first book series I ❤❤read. And the LOTR movies are so awesome .And I owe it all my love for the books to my teacher .in our class we read the hobbit .then watched the cartoon.
You had a great teacher. I have been a fan too for some 30 years now. I remember when the Fellowship of the Ring movie came out and I didn't like it because it looked so different from how I pictured it from the books but by the Return of the King it won me over and now the Trilogy is my favorite. But I still detest the Hobbit trilogy 😂
Frodo rolls his eyes so much across three movies. Sam is a great friend .
Ride now! Ride for ruin and the worlds ending!!!!
RIP Bernard Hill!
The good - the original trilogy and a few games, the bad - everything else.
If you're too busy you can always listen to the audiobook. The BBC Radio version is good too.
You should read the book. It's great. You mentioned that dwarves do not die. They do. Other than that you created a wonderful video. Thank you!!!
OK, this legit sounds like it was written and recorded by chatgpt.
Does that compliment the narrator?
@@Heyitsallgoodman for one, the pronunciations indicate someone who hasn't seen the films.
I know work on this video on this likely started weeks ago, but the timing is right.
Love LOTR trilogy. It’s the perfect watch every THANKSGIVING.
The HOBBIT suffers from blockbuster-itis with soooo much filler NOT from the mind of Tolkien. All your derision points are valid as the studio preferred more quick cash than a quality follow up. Probably why Del Toro dropped out as studio pressure increased
Nice. It's a fabulous trilogy. I'm a sucker for this and only watch the extended versions since they were released.
The 4k versions are amazing.
There a few holes and unfortunately a lot is saved in the Extended Editions. But Lord of the Rings is still one of the greatest cinematic achievements
LOTR was helped to GOAT status by what they took out the hobbit was affected by what they added
BTW on YT there is a fan cut called There and back again which at 4 hours tells the same story they took a 350 page book 10hrs plus in the extended editions to tell
if has not been deleted or taken down
The Rankin and Bass animated Hobbit movie is perfect, especially for fans of the book. Tolkien wrote a bunch of songs in the book and in the cartoon they had Glenn Yarbrough sing them for the soundtrack. As a fan of the book I find it makes it that much better
Tauriel is the best part of the hobbit movies 😍
Also, there were thousands of warriors defending Helms Deep...not somewhere around 300....read the freaking books!
Funny you should say that there's nothing missing from the Battle of the Black Gate. Yes, nothing missing except for all of their horses. One moment the heroes are riding horses, then in the next cut they're all on foot!
I hear there is a great fan edit of the Hobbit trilogy.
Why...oh God why...did Amazon decide to leave what is true perfection. Seems they are doubling down on stupid with the latest trailer. Thank you for another great video.
"War for the Ring" is inaccurate & wrong. This phrase never appears anywhere. The only ones fighting "for" the Ring are Sauron, Saruman, and their assorted baddies. (Gollum too, I guess.)
The Fellowship is the best part of the Trilogy! Second comes part 2...
river folk are not hobbits fyi
Except they were. They were Stoor hobbits. Appendix B specifically calls Deagol one, which makes his brother Smeagol also a Stoor.
When you said that the Hobbit Trilogy was announced, it was first announced as a single film, then duology, THEN trilogy when they realized it was a cash cow which explains all the filler. EDIT: love the video this is just a nitpick because I lived through it as a fan, who knew when it was stretched out for a quick buck with Hobbit being a children book at like 1/3 the size of Fellowship, like 1/9 the size of all of them.
Beowulf cinema 🎥 personified 😊
Unpopular Opinion, but I really don’t like Return Of The King. It’s my least favorite of the LOTR trilogy. There’s something so off about it, and I was laughing out loud in the theater at it. Obsessed with 1 & 2 tho. And I mean obsessed. 3 just had this different feel to it. There was something that felt unfinished about a majority of the movie. Like it was rushed. Even some of the scenes look like they shot it in 1 day and slammed it into the final film without editing it.
Why do you mispronounce things like weta?
"Mostly faithful" - ?!?!?
Dude, READ THE BOOK!
(BEFORE you make these!)
Just had this 45 minute essay in the chamber huh?
Its a compilation video. They are hoping you wouldn't notice.
I mean, if you're going to do a review of such a classic set of films, ateast learn how to pronounce the words correctly. It's not "we-ta", it's "Wet-a". And there is no such thing as the Mines of "Moyra"...it's the Mines of Moria.
How dare you with that title
The Lord of the rings are my favorite movies of ALL TIME. It has everything!
Can't stand the hobbit. Should have been at most 2 movies or not made at all. I kinda hate all the actions scenes in the Hobbit.
But there is no bad
#prenup
Why all that hate about The Hobbit trilogy?
Horrible pronunciations....
While I enjoy the films as cinema, and they are certainly deserving of merit in that regard, I still say that Peter Jackson’s The Lord of the Rings trilogy is one of the worst literary adaptations ever made. And a lot of the horrible choices made in regards to adaptation often lower the quality of the story as cinema: The dispensing of Tolkien’s morality. The disregard for proper tone. The elasticity of pacing. The flattening of narrative. The interminable battle scenes. The complete destruction of characterization. The degradation of Tolkien’s prose, reducing beautiful sentiment to corny greeting card mush. The relentless trivialization of the story. And perhaps most egregiously, the facile appreciation of the book thinly veiling a profound and contemptible lack of comprehension of its themes. This is in addition to the enthusiastic copying of an alarming amount of shots, scenes, and entire sequences from Ralph Bakshi’s animated adaptation from 1978. While it may be true that Jackson’s interpretation of The Lord of the Rings is far greater qualitatively that his interpretation of The Hobbit, well... that isn’t really saying much.
LOTR is good the rest is shit and worse than shit
Are you lot serious??
720p???
What is this? 2010??
@25:00 Luckily Guillermo del Toro didn't direct that movie. He isn't finishing 75% of his movies. He can do a good series, but a movie, nah