Flower, Sun, and Rain (DS) RETROSPECTIVE - Grasshopper B-Sides - HM
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- Flower Sun and Rain Review & Retrospective
Grasshopper B-Sides:
A video series that chronicles the lesser known titles in Grasshopper Manufacture's game catalog. In the fourth episode, I'll be discussing the remake of Flower, Sun and Rain - which is a direct sequel to The Silver Case. I'll be comparing the Original PS2 release to the DS Remake.
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Great job Hiki! This game needs more coverage!
Probably my favorite Suda51 game, simply cause Suda dials down the insanity and violence from his other games and creates a more beautiful and easygoing atmosphere while still retaining those moments of Sudas surrealism and intriguing characters. Plus, the fact it ties in to The Silver Case is also incredible, as I had just finished it before playing FSR. Seriously, some of those connections totally caught me off guard.
FSR aged better over time. I played this during launch and had no idea about the Kill The Past series or SC connections. It's charming, but also tedious.
Hikikomori Media Absolutely agree with you Hikikomori. It’s less interesting if you haven’t played the Silver Case, as some of those connections totally blew my mind. I honestly did like how it is tedious, as it makes you appreciate the atmosphere and beautiful world more. It’s kinda like the death stranding before death stranding was made, in the sense that it’s tedious, but still intriguing and captivates you.
About kusabi's silver eye, at the end of the SIlver Case Kusabi head to an investigation involving mayor hachisuka (they guy with the silver eyes), never to be seen again as stated in the extra prologue.
We also the on the second extra prologue that Tokio has one silver eye, so Im guessing that something happened at the scene of crime and both Tokio and Kusabi took one silver eye each.
Thanks for this whole Grasshopper series! As someone with a burgeoning interest in Suda51, it's great to have found a consistently interesting and well research/explained series on the topic. Great stuff!
Check out my Shadows of the damned retrospective if you haven't. It's a trip. (Brought to you by Suda51)
What a bizarre game. We need more ps1 style demakes :)
I'm a big fan of the DS - it was a happy day when I found fsr-- i loved it.
Sunny island with a dark secret, ha... I guess twilight syndrome wasn’t the only suda 51 game danganronpa 2 was referencing
is there a good video you can recommend that explains/analyzes the plot and connectivity between suda games? also have you seen season 3 of twin peaks? watching this fsr review made me realize there were a lot of parallels to the new season.
Early suda games were pure lynchian madness
Just beat this game last night. Not sure what it says about me that I enjoyed the game a lot even with its tedious gameplay. At the end seeing Kusabi and the Silver Case music with the text sounds put a smile on my face for sure.
Special breed of gamer can make it to the end of the "kill the past" line of games. Welcome to the club buddy!
@@HikikomoriMedia I'm scared to beat all of these games, because I'm sure there will be nothing else out there that can hit the same spot for me as these kind of games.
im still playing through the silver case but its really good stuff so far. wile this game does seem interesting it also seems really stressful if you want to play it one your own. wish they remaster that PS2 version onto PS4 someday
They probably will at some point. They are doing 25th ward which is obscure as shit to the point were they didnt have a way to play it themselves, so chances is this is gonna get releases somewhere in the future.
yeah i found out about that recently so yeah im sure this will happen at some point.
I had never played a game worked on by Suda51 before this game. Got to say, this is one of my favourite games. I really enjoy the de-make vibe, and the fact that it's on the DS is just extremely amusing to me. I actually feel the DS was a good suit for this game as the bottom half of the screen is useful for taking notes with the stylus (I suppose if you look up a guide this isn't relevant). As for the difficulty of the puzzles, most of it really isn't math. There's some basic addition, and a few instances with algebra, but the rest is reading the guidebook to find some string of numbers: really not that bad. I looked up a guide for the difficult puzzles, but the rest was easy to figure out.
Contrary to your views on the game, the first 13 chapters or so were some of the most amusing, charming moments I have had with a video game. I really enjoyed the stories of the individual characters, and I loved that 'homey' vibe as you put it. It was a really comfy game, and I loved the setting. The ending however was incredibly confusing and detracted from the experience overall. I'm sure for fans of the other games it's interesting, and some of it is understandable from an outsider perspective, but overall I wish that this was a completely stand alone experience. I also very much appreciated how this was a straight adventure game with little violence: the gameplay of Killer 7 is a huge turn off for me as I don't like the idea of shooting people in a game.
I remember playing it several times to grind out those fucking Lost & Founds and the pedometer bonuses (had to clamp my d-pad with a clothespin and leave the DS running overnight, ffs), and each time I'd get completely baffled by act 3, because without the prior knowledge of Silver Case, the ending of FSR is borderline incomprehensible. Now that I finally got to play through the English translation of Silver Case, maybe I should really try to pay Lospass another visit and book myself an extended stay at the good ol' FSR. 😎🍹
I love the juke box feature
i wonder how long we have to wait for this game to be released on modern platforms - after porting the silver case this would have been a no brainer.
*[Insert more jokes about Jacking in here]*
The DS version kinda looks like a N64 game
*PS1 game
The game hates you. Plain and simple.
Played this as i was also playing silver case. Honestly, really dope title
Finish silver case before FSR. You'll thank me later
FSR and Silver Case both have this weird thing where someone will tell you this crazy plot/world changing thing, only for someone later to say "lol, no that's wrong and not what is actually happening" For someone with an ape brain like myself it makes it really hard to even grasp what's going on. Still love both these games, great vid!
I think Suda's philosophy is to "just relax and enjoy the ride" for most of his games. They're as deep or shallow as you percieve them to be.
So is this the same Mondo from Killer is Dead?
Nope, the Mondo in this game is a fake identity for Sumio Kodai, one of the protagonists of The Silver Case and The 25th Ward.
What a weird game :'D but actually looks interesting enough to play nice graphix for a DS game too! I also do some gaming content on my channel feel free to check it out!
I remember laughing out loud at this game so many times, or just thinking "what the Suda51 just happened?", just going with it, and loving it.
this is by far his most cynical and absurd game. It's one of the most "anti-game" experiences I've played. (2nd only to the 25th ward)
@@HikikomoriMedia It wasn't Killer7 (still my favourite of the bunch I guess) levels of pure raw unfiltered awesomeness, but the absurdities were definitely just about on par. Perhaps more blatantly absurd. I mean, the pink crocodile search, the lady under the bed, the kid being so sure he wouldn't get smacked because otherwise the game would get a harder time being rated and then he gets smacked from 3 different camera angles... And that just some of the stuff I immediately remember without thinking too hard.
@@HikikomoriMedia Only casuals don't grind out all those endings.
Oof the price of this game. Also, I can’t stop coming back to this video, Miles. So. Good.
Always thought this game looked beautiful (yes, the DS version too it is art). I'll eventually get to playing it but I am not looking forward to the math parts.at.all. Gah why is it always the pretty ones?
hey how did you get that Grasshopper hit sound effect i know its the grasshopper manufacture jingle but im dying for the flower sun and rain verison
Which one in particular are you looking for?
@@HikikomoriMedia the correct jingle
@@a-dub6434 A little late to it, but I imagine one could extract the sound effect from a recording of the opening logos in TSC. It's also already isolated here czcams.com/video/LGFdy9hs3ck/video.html
i wonder if the PS2 edition got translated at all after all these years. I'd totally pick it up
not yet, but SUDA is exploring options.
I even checked if it was available on the Japanese PSN; no such luck, unfortunately. -_-
Why does Sumio look like that in the thumbnail?
Fish angle lens.
Winrar island lmfao
to whole point on play this is to chill and feel wat npcs have to say
If your idea of chilling is solving math problems and jacking into household objects, then more power to ya friend
the puzzles in this game are NOT millennial friendly. 😢
whoa why is your ps2 FSR in 60 fps
Finally got around to this review. Still 1 and a half month behind on videos but I am slowly catching up! I'm not one to complain about graphics all that much but holy shit this game looks disgusting. The game looks incredible boring as well.
I do not like Matt
Both versions have crappy graphics.
The graphics aren't bad. You just hate Suda51 art style.
@@alvarochaves1999 No, the graphics are just genuinely shit. This was the first game they made past the PS1 if I do believe. The textures are practically a few pixels, there the characters are starved of polygons.
@@supernightslash Did you ever played a Suda51 game??
@@alvarochaves1999 Yes. Killer 7, The entire Kill the past series, NMH1, 2, TSB, & 3. The game even for Suda standards just isn't a looker. Killer 7 definitely improved in this style though.