Analyzing Evil: Fargo
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- Hello everyone and welcome to the one hundred seventy-first episode of Analyzing Evil! Our topic for this video is Fargo. I hope you enjoy, and thanks for watching. If you have any feedback or questions feel free to let me know below!
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Fargo is a great look at pathetic evil. Evil that comes from cutting corners, not thinking things through, and trying not to think about the consequences.
The banality of evil
Great comment
This is part of what I love about Fargo. If you're a true crime fan you've seen tons and tons of real life crime plots that were bungled, ill-conceived and poorly-executed, and this gives Fargo a sense of realism that a lot of crime movie plots don't quite have. This feels like it could be based on a true story - hell, the opening credits even say as much, even though we know that's not true.
@@matthewsmith5104yes i feel the same. It's more akin to true real world evil. Most aren't actually some cigar smoking maniacal laughing criminal mastermind, it's just slimy people doing haphazard plans that lead to evil out of their uncare and desperation
I love your videos very much and I wanted to try my luck in asking you if you can do an Analysing Evil video with Franklin Saint from the FX series Snowfall and also Jamie, Scully and Dushane from the Netflix London series called Top Boy. Goated shows and I would like to hear your intellect on your analysis of them. Especially Franklin since Snowfall recently ended after 6 seasons. I personally placed this character as a second to Walter "Heisenberg" White.
On the flip side, Marge Gunderson is arguably one of the best protagonists in film. She solves the mystery and ends the hunt despite being pregnant. She sees a ton of traumatic and graphic things including a man being chopped up in a wood chipper but holds steady and doesn't snap from the strain and horror of it all. Rather than berate the killer at then end she just shakes her head and says she doesn't get it. She just shakes off all the trauma she just went through and ends up going home to comfort her husband when he gets upset about not winning his stamp competition. One would expect her to snap at him and belittle him like "NORM you have *no idea* what I went through today!" but she just comforts him and doesn't trouble him with the ugliness of her job. She is so based it's almost unreal.
I think the two are a wonderful pairing. After the day she had, talking about something as normal and mundane as a stamp competition would help keep her sane. I don’t know any officers personally, but I’d imagine you have to be completely optimistic or completely cynical to do that job. Marge is the former, bless her, and no doubt her child will be, too.
That doesn't mean she isn't deeply affected by what she's seen, though. It could just be more "Minnesota nice". @@nealwhaley63
It's always nice to see John Carroll Lynch not play the killer.
I think we may need an Analyzing Good channel.
Yeah. She’s one of like 1000 protagonists who meet everything you said despite being pregnant
Jerry Lundegaard is one of the best-written villains in cinema (and perfectly portrayed by William H. Macy). He is not all-powerful, or violent, or maliciously cunning. No - his evil stems from a mixture of cravenness, cowardice and stupidity. And that combination of horrible traits is what makes his villainy not only so memorable, but uncomfortably relatable because in the end, he's all too human.
what is it with jerry's and always being so pathetic?
What does craven mean?
"Craven" is a synonym for "cowardly"
@@reidparker1848 poor Wes :(
Agreed
What do “No Country For Old Men” & “Fargo” have in common?
That briefcase of money.
Many simply equate No Country as "Fargo, but set south of the border" anyway.
And Pulp Fiction lol …. Although its hotly debated what is in that briefcase
No really, they are the same prop re-used
Anton Chigurh is, arguably, the kind of sociopathic hired gun Grimsrud WISHES he could be.
The Big Lebowski had a briefcase too.
Fargo is kind’ve a parody of the “Chekhov’s Gun” writing principle. Instead of everything in the movie having some sort of payoff, there are so many plot elements that are present in the film without having any real bearing to the story. Marge’s pregnancy, for example, is included, and one might expect a main character’s pregnancy having some payoff, especially in dangerous situations, but instead, it’s just there, and there’s no payoff. The Coen brothers even tease this, by showing her hunch over in one of her first scenes, only for her to dismiss it as morning sickness. It’s a movie that knowingly subverts every expectation and norm in filmmaking. Case in point, most of the movie takes place in Minnesota, with only a few minutes of the film happening in Fargo.
I mean let's be realistic, no lady's going to be kicking ass while heavily pregnant. That's just gonna look ridiculous. I'm glad the Coen Bros went the more realistic angle and had Marge only doing more investigative work, but when she did need to stop the bad guys, it' not like some guns blazing shootout in you're usual action movie.
I think her pregnancy was just a way to bring more tension to her scenes since nobody wants to see a pregnant lady get hurt. It may have some deeper meaning but I don’t really think that’s it
That’s actually most of their movies.
Agreed! I think the Big Lebowski takes this to an even more extreme degree.
@@Skinnyjewjew I feel its perfected in The Big Lebowski. My favorite scene in the whole movie is when hes telling that guy about what's going on he writes down on a notepad and walks away. The Dude runs over like a noir detective and reverse sketches on the pad to see what he wrote...and its a sketch of a dude with a big dick lol....
Jerry Lundegaard behaves almost like how a kid would after flunking a test and would go out of their way to hide the report card from their parents. His arrest at the end of the two officers literally having to drag Jerry kicking and screaming to jail, proves how spineless he is.
Now because of Jerry, several people including his wife and father-in-law are dead, his son will possibly have to go to foster care, he's facing several criminal charges and his financial problems will likely worsen if the victim's families decide to sue him. And all because he just wanted a little bit of money too.
Yup. What happens to Scotty? You have to think he has a miserable life. I know it's a fiction, but you have to assume he probably becomes a criminal and or a addict/alcoholic.
Sue him? Is that how it works? You can suffer both a life sentence in prison plus have to compensate the victims. I mean, they don't pay you in prison right?
@@osmanyousif7849 Yeah, I don't know about that. He has no money anyway
The two arrest scenes at the end mirror earlier scenes in the movie and suggest a kind of "poetic justice" for the two surviving conspirators of the kidnapping scheme.
When Gaear is shot in the leg by Marge while trying to flee though a snowy field, we are reminded the earlier scene when Gaear shot and murdered a witness who was also attempting to run away from him across a snowy field.
Likewise, Jerry's absurd and pitiful attempt to escape arrest by crawling out of the bathroom window of his motel room mirrors Jean's failed attempt to escape her kidnapping when she is cornered in the upstairs bathroom of her house.
Why would you assume Scotty becomes a criminal? Baseless.
I love how every bad guy here is equally stupid and incompetent, just in different ways
Yes.
The Sheriff wasn’t too bright. But luckily, with the criminals in that town, she didn’t need to be.
@@robbob5302 I disagree, the sheriff has shown to be fairly competent at her job. Her mistake was underestimating Jerry at first, but in her defense, everyone’s guilty of that in this movie.
@@jerrie1533 She realizes how she too could be fooled, when she learns about how the asian guy lied to her about his dead wife to make her feel sorry for him.
She was well above most small town sherrifs. She immediately figured out the logistics of the massacre on the highway. @@robbob5302
The real evil in Fargo is the Minnesota postal service. How dare they relegate Norm's masterpiece to the 3¢ stamp?
You’re laughing. Hartman’s blue-winged teal got the twenty nine cent stamp and you’re laughing?
Oh for Pete's sake, nobody's laughin'! Whenever they raise the postage people need the little stamps, when they're stuck with a bunch of the old ones. Norm's stamp is terrific!
Tree cent
A Win's a win, and getting your work reproduced in a few dozen million copies is still a win.
I loved the craziness of the villains in this movie, especially Steve Buscemi.
I always loved the scene where the Native American man beats him up, justly, with his belt. 😂
Steve and Peter also deserved Oscar’s for being the dumbest crooks ever!
@@perturbedxtirade7428Also, when Wade shoots him in the face and when Gaear axes him, all justly.
@@nickchang5293Agreed. Carl and Randall Boggs are among Buscemi's most despicable characters.
I liked Jerry’s evil more.
We often see loud & brash oaf type of criminals, but Jerry’s overall “innocent/naive” presence is by far more insidious in what he hides.
GREED and Stupidity do not mix...
Well said
At best, you'll get a segment on Jey Leno's "Stupid criminals" Headlines bit (remember those), at worst you'll get this, or "Pain & Gain".
It’s often how it comes
To me, Fargo always portrays what we today call "toxic masculinity".
The best exsample is the elevator scene in Season 1. Martin Freemans character could have just minded his own business, but since he's convinced himself that he's some kind of alpha male now, he gets himself (and his wife) into trouble for no reason at all.
@@theblocksays*JAY*
The reason I love Coen brothers’ movies is the fact that they understand how stupid people can be and how their stupidity leads them - and us - into increasingly chaotic and darkly humorous consequences.
Ordinary people just using their brains correctly tend to be the heroes.
Brilliant!
The problem with that sentiment is that there are far too many of the stupid ones thinking they're "ordinary people using their brains correctly".
I love your videos very much and I wanted to try my luck in asking you if you can do an Analysing Evil video with Franklin Saint from the FX series Snowfall and also Jamie, Scully and Dushane from the Netflix London series called Top Boy. Goated shows and I would like to hear your intellect on your analysis of them. Especially Franklin since Snowfall recently ended after 6 seasons. I personally placed this character as a second to Walter "Heisenberg" White.
I heard Peter Stormare in an interview talk about how surprised he was to hear some folks in Minnesota still speaking a Swedish that Stormare had only heard the old folks in the old country speak when he was a little boy.
Wow!
Funny how linguistics develop around 2 isolated groups speaking the same language over many generations
Stormare also admitted that the first time he read the script, he thought Grimsrud's line "Where is pancakes house?" was a typo, only for the Coens to pull him aside and tell him "We don't make typos." Supposedly, that's the literal translation of how you'd ask that question in Swedish, which really shows how much research the Coens put into this screenplay.
@gelchert that's awesome!
For that matter, there are also a lot of "American" English words and pronunciations that came over with the Brits at the time of colonization. Then the language on their island evolved while ours didn't.
Marge's speech in the cop car at the end of the movie feels like it was directed at Jerry, not the homicidal killer in the backseat. That's why he looks so confused and nonplussed at her advice. She extols the virtues of enjoying the life you have, appreciating all that your blessed with and how she can't comprehend why someone would risk so much for a little bit of money. Words that Jerry needed to hear more than anyone since he threw away his family, his job, his freedom, is in financial ruin and is the cause of several deaths...all for some money.
Excellent observation, Negajoe! That speech always confused me at bit. It makes sense to put it in a different perspective.
I recently learned that "nonplussed" has a different meaning than what is conventionally used, as in, so overwhelmed with emotion you kinda blank out. Did you mean it in that sense, or like "indifferent"?
@@heidigreen8468Indifferent.
Jerry, Carl, and Gary all did this dumb crap for a little bit of money. He looks indifferent all the time nothing phases him in the entire movie.
Marge is essentially like “you put a man in a wood chipper and killed multiple people for $20k?”
Modern day shakespearean tragedy, everybody dies at the end
William H Macy is a seriously underrated actor with insane range. A conniving slime bag in Fargo, a selfish drunk in Shameless, a meek but well-meaning nerd in Wild Hogs, the list goes on. The man is a genius at his craft
I know it's silly, but I always love him as the Shoveler in Mystery Men. "God gave me a gift. I shovel well; I shovel very well!"
@@owenatkinson5744 never seen that tbh, I’ll have to take a look
@@owenatkinson5744thanks for mentioning that part, mate. love him in that role
A skilled shovel warrior in Mystery Men
He's also on Jurassic park 3 as a very similar character to Fargo
I love the couple that are buying the car and they know they're being ripped off but they buy it anyway because they're so darned nice 😄
The law of Yanta reads like a dystopian law .
Law of Jante has definitely become more contentious these days. I can understand that, it reads as something very repressive.
Mostly, I think it's about the common good. But being too draconian about what the common good is, or expecting all individuals to conform to those ideas, usually leads to a lot of suffering that frankly is so spread across different levels of a society, that it becomes hard to pinpoint. See: Japan and its history of collectivist practices and attitudes. Beauty and horror in all of it.
It boils down to this for me... who should say what the common good is for all? One person? A commission? Or perhaps each and every person that common good is meant to serve? Obviously, I prefer option C. If common people must perpetually bend and break themselves to meet notions of common good, is real 'good' really common anymore?
@@differentbutsimilar7893 Basically, it just read like someone an Ayn Rand protang would have to fight against.
I’m guessing Dennis with his sob story lying doesn’t go by those principles😆
Sounds like it came from narcissistic people..
Its the culture I grew up with in Norway
"You're Darn Tootin"🗣🗣🗣📢📢📢🥶🥶🥶🔥🔥🔥
"Ohh yea?"
Yaaaa. Sure sounds like we're in a pickle there now.
@@A.Radwick Oh yaaaaa....
@@Christrulesall2 don't cha know
Minnesotaaaaa😂
William H Macy's performance as Jerry Lundegaard is some of the best acting I've watched. It's difficult to pull off the weasel/coward role, and Macy knocked it out of the park!
I was too young to watch this on the big screen when it came out, but I saw it on the anniversary at the Warner theater in DC, and William H Macy was there in person to answer questions for a pretty generous amount of time
I think Jerry suffers from avoidance. He avoids confronting things head on and being honest, in the hopes that lying and deflecting will allow him to escape reality and that he will never have to account for his mistakes.
very Scandinavian of him
A car dealer's cars on the lot are owned by GMAC. The dealer has to pay GMC for the vehicles, and any interest incurred, when the car is sold. That is why they GMAC guy on the phone is asking for the VIN number's. Jerry kept the $$$ the customers paid for their cars not financed (by the customer) through GMAC. A VIN checker shows up once a month to find the unsold VINs on the lot. It's called being out of trust with GMAC if the lot inventory does not match the VIN list.
That’s a great quick explanation for those of us who don’t know anything about car dealerships. Thank you.
I came from a car dealership background, and I wondered if people understood what being “out of trust” is. I think a lot of people believe dealerships own the cars they’re selling. As you know, no, they certainly don’t.
I know two guys who went down hard for this. One served jail time. The other lost his franchises, paid a fortune, and has been shunned from owning other dealerships. Actually, he was like Jerry in that way, only it was his dad who started the company. He was a son who ran two branches into the ground. The other son was a jerk, but clean. He played by the rules as far as I know.
The bank will always find out, folks.
Oh darn , Can you try wording that better if you do not mind 😊
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Let’s say your friend gave you a diamond necklace. Your friend says “hey, I want to sell this jewelry, but I know I’m going to lose it. Tell you what. Sell it for me. But when you do, I want $5000. Whatever you can get extra is yours.”
Now you go out and sell it for $5500. Nice $500 profit for you.
You’re supposed to give your friend back the $5000, right? Well, he didn’t. He pocketed the whole $5500 and told his friend (the bank) he’s still looking for a buyer.
Then he went and spent all of the cash.
Now your friend wants to know where the necklace is. In his case, his friend is the bank. They’re looking for the cars, not to have them back, but to make sure he didn’t do *exactly* what he did. They do that by periodically showing up and scanning the lot. They check off every VIN (vehicle identification number). Each car has a unique 17 letter/number combination.
So now he sets up a fake kidnapping of his wife to get his father-in-law to cough up a bunch of money. Parts of it goes to the hired goons, and the rest will be used to tell the bank he sold the cars and pay them back.
But of course, it didn’t work out like he planned.
I think Jerry sold cars to customers but didn't officiate the sale and pocketed all the money. (Car dealerships don't own the cars, they sell them from the manufacturer and make a small cut of the profit). A VIN checker would notice a discrepancy between the number of unsold cars and the cars on the lot and alert a car manufacturer/tax agency/etc. to fraud.
This movie is one of the best showcases of the difference between being nice and being kind.
You could argue that Jerry’s plan to take out 80k out of the million he was bilking Wade out wasn’t stupid. The problem is that Jerry is absolutely spineless. He made it clear that the kidnappers were only dealing with him, and he should have put his foot down and said no when Wade wanted to intervene, citing that it could compromise Wade’s daughters safety should he be the one to handover the money. But Jerry barely raised his voice when Wade and Stan basically said he would muck up the handoff.
Poor Scotty 😢
True but Wade was the one who had the money and he would have ignored Jerry no matter what.
@@lizd2943 you still push back in that situation if you actually believe your wife's life in danger. unless you don't actually care about her wellbeing.
Yes, I'm just saying Wade wouldn't have listened no matter what because he had no respect for Jerry at all.@@saml302
@@saml302 even if he didn’t care for her wellbeing he certainly cared about the money! He needed time to split the 80k from the rest of the million!
@@lizd2943 Wade was the root of this whole problem from the start. The reason Jerry had all the debt he did, was because Wade was a domineering force who intentionally undermined Jerry as the man of his own household. He makes a very clear implication that he wants Jerry not to be there, when he says that "His daughter and Scottie will be taken care of." Leaving out Jerry from that makes it very, very apparent that he doesn't want the man around.
And there's absolutely no way he didn't know, or highly suspect that Jerry was "mistaken" about the deal they were going to make. He knows the man. Wade is supposed to be family. He treats him like an adversarial business partner and takes advantage of Jerry's misunderstanding.
Wade owns the dealership Jerry works at. Jerry's debts are a result of him desperate to gain wealth that rivals Wade's. It's obvious that if Jerry's fraud was discovered, his marriage would be over. He'd be going to prison. Everything he had, would come crumbling down around him. That's why he ends up desperate enough to hire two men to stage a ransom.
And ultimately, Wade's microscopic opinion of Jerry ends up being what keeps him from suspecting anything about his involvement with the ransom. He doesn't even begin to put two and two together.
And it was absolutely not a smart idea to just ignore Jerry. He put his daughter's life in added danger, and got zeroed at the meeting sight, because he wouldn't let Jerry handle it. Jerry is obviously the bad guy in this story, there's no question, but the story makes it pretty clear that Wade's fate was one entirely of his own making. He did not recognize what Jerry was capable of, and how desperate he made him to wrestle back control of his family.
Great episode. I actually just re-watched Fargo this week. The scary thing about Jerry is that there are a lot, and I mean A LOT of real life true crime stories that start out with people like him. Some horrific crimes in history start out with an everyman or woman just trying to get some money for some mundane reason.
Bruh, I'm a CO. I can tell you from personal experience that most criminals are exactly like Jerry. Dumb, greedy, and short-sighted.
Due to "Fargo", every time I see or hear a wood chipper,
...It's impossible not to think of Steve Buscemi.
How he met his end with an ax whack, then into the wood chipper.
Rather like listening to "Stuck in the Middle With You"
...Now I picture the cop getting his ear cut off in "Reservoir Dogs" :)
That Michael Madsen sure has some anger management issues.
Got him killed in this movie, and "Kill Bill: Volume 2", too :)
I also think of Helle Crafts; real life woodchipper/ homicide victim, one of my first True Crime shows from the Crime night('90s) on Discovery before it became a faux reality channel. She was Danish, as I am and it is hard to believe how such a person using a Woodchipper to dispose of a body. Which gets me thinking the of documentary "This is a True Story" (available on youtube) about the story of Takako Konishi which was reported wrongly as being associated with the film. This Film is a masterpiece and has some very interesting stories associated with it.
I also think of Tucker And Dale vs. Evil. College kids just throwing themselves in the woodchipper! 😂
Damn....that's been on the watch list :)@@user-cl5yb3vj2l
Same here on both counts; totally ruined the song for me but kinda worth it, to me. Buscemi once noted his characters bodies getting progressively smaller with each movie😂😂
Buscemi put his best foot forward with that role
REALLY loved steve buscemi on this! My favorite role of his alongside tony b.
He's great in whatever he's in. Fantastic actor.
That animal, Blundetto?
Analyzing Evil: that dude who made grilled cheese with a radiator
@@NickOleksiakMusicJean Lundegaard, whateva happened there
that animal blundetto. You know he killed a 47-year-old kid right?
Jerry’s plan was so stupid. It was doomed to fail and I love how Carl and Gaer even said right from the getgo that the plan doesn’t make any sense
right from opening scene, the meeting time was messed up. Jerry didn't even plan when to meet at the bar correctly.
"Pretty unfriendly actually. But it's the way you're unfriendly, how you're so polite about it. Like you're doing me a favor."
Mike Milligan in Fargo Season 2 summarizing Minessota friendly demeanor.
This is one of those films I watch over and over and can't find any faults
A great showcase of how while politeness is important you need to drop it on certain situations For a better result. Plus the effort of maintaining the facade will eventually get to you. You need to be more open with your emotions and problems so that others may be able to help you.
The seeing you actually talk in your narrative voice for your videos is kinda mind blowing
Right? I thought he was an AI for months
These face reveals never fail to blow our minds. The man behind the voice is NEVER what we think. Appearance wise anyway.
I was just wondering if the guy is paying for someone else to read his scripts now. I liked his less AI sounding voice he used to use for his channel tbh. This was kind of hard to get through an I honestly cant see sticking around to listen to these.
@@buddstep Lol, of course its an AI ! What now, AI can't do video?!
@@aquacruisedb yup totally fake
If you're interested in Minnesota Nice, you should come down to Saskatchewan. We're like Minnesota Nice evolved. I work in tourism and the number of times people from other countries, mainly the US are just dumbfounded by how polite, friendly, and outgoing we are is kinda hilarious. You get some people who seem to genuinely believe they've walked into a Twin Peaks dream sequence or something.
I love that kind of culture shock. A similar thing happened when McDonald's first came to Russia, and customers were suspicious of how friendly the staff were acting, because they don't do that there. Business places are for business; friends are for friendliness.
To anyone reading this; Save yourself, do not go to Saskatchewan.
Nice people and such, yea. Also, NOTHING to see. And next to nothing to do.
As a resident of Saskatchewan for 25 years, I can confirm. Insane politeness, nothing to do.
Peter Stormare was probably one of the best depiction of a psychopath on film!
He plays a mean nihilist too 😉
@@Beardwhipholy fuck!!! I know I recognised him from somewhere!!
He also is very fond of Pancakes.
Until he gets eaten by little dinosaurs. 😂
@@carolann811 He played a psychopath there too😂
Macy played the spineless weasel to perfection. Such a great film. One awesome aspect of it in my opinion is Marge's character development. It's subtle, but after her encounter with Mike Yanagita she gets more assertive when dealing with Jerry and the other criminals, yet never becomes jaded.
I’m sure you know this but in case you don’t the whole point of Mike in the film is to demonstrate to Marge that seemingly harmless people can lie and scheme for very little reason. Mike concocted and acted out an entirely false backstory just to try to get with Marge. She realizes that Jerry might be doing the same which turns out to be true, and as she puts it the entire scheme and events related to Jerry were all just for a “little bit of money”. This channel did a really good video talking about the “banality of evil” and how people can do really awful things for seemingly mundane reasons, it’s an idea that is not only really interesting to think and read about but also shockingly common
@@jasongiovanni6332 Agreed. Law-abiding folk tend to assume that someone must have a good (or at least large) reason to break the law, especially for such heinous crimes as kidnapping and murder. But the truth is that some people will risk a lot for very little, with no care for the harm it causes others. One of my friends was at a charity store and saw that they had shirts selling for $2 that had anti-theft devices on them. She laughed and said to her friend, "Why would anyone rob a charity store?" Her friend looked her dead in the eye and said "To save two bucks."
He played a spineless weasel in Boogie Nights, too. Poor Bill Macy, always playing a weakling. I’ve seen some of shameless where he plays a pathetic alcoholic.
I live in the City Fargo. And that means I have a weird relationship with this movie. Because of this movie, people think we have that accent, and most don't, and I get a lot of Woodchipper jokes. But the movie is so freaking good that I can't hate it.
The Upper Midwestern accent variant that you find in Minnesota, some of the Dakotas, much of Wisconsin, and the UP of MI, varies widely in strength not just from one region to another but also basically from one person to another, even if they grew up in the same area and went to the same schools.
I was born in Brainerd MN. And live in ether MN or Fargo my entire life, and I could count on one hand how many times I've heard that accent as strong as in the movie.
Hell yeah brother. I’m from the better Dakota and Fargo has always been my favorite movie
@@taco4242 They did exaggerate it. But if you get out in the more deeply rural areas, it's not actually too far off.
“Jerry Lundegaard is, above all else, a moron.” I died laughing about 4 times before I could move on with the video.
I've always had a good laugh at him trying to jump out the window in his boxer shorts😂
yeah that Jerry Lundegaard ...dumber than a pound of sh*t
Into the North Dakota winter, no less
Boxer shorts! 400 Oak Street. K-Mart. 😵
Covering one of the best movies I've seen in the last year on the day I turn 26. Happy birthday to me!!
🙏🙏🙏🌟
It’s one of the best movies made! Period. Lots of masterpieces out there, enjoy!
As a person from the West Coast, most of what I learned about “Minnesota Nice/Politeness/Passive-Aggressiveness” came from Mystery Science Theater 3000.
Which is expected as the show originated in Minnesota with most of the cast and crew being from Minnesota.
They definitely made a lot of Fargo references in the later seasons; especially the famous “wood chipper” scene.
i live in Fargo an am there right now lol
This film is a masterpiece. And the show taking place after (and before) this film is equally a masterpiece.
Season 2 of Fargo is one of the best good vs evil. The other examples are people that either compromise their moral compass or commit “necessary evil.”
also by the end of s2 pretty much everyone lost something regardless of their sides
I think every season of the show could easily be made into a video, especially the last one. Roy Tillman as the living embodiment of libertarianism made a great villain, a big baby who wants all the freedom with none of the responsibility.
I'm sorry but the UFO thing kinda killed it.
@@darksideofevil13they only did that because it was a play on there being more reported UFO sightings in that area at that time.
@@alswearengine4867 I'm not sure if that makes it better. It just completely sucked me out of it. But maybe I'm taking it too seriously I dunno.
One of the greatest left us. Akira Toriyama will never be forgotten. Please do cell
This comment needs more likes boys, assemble!
@@heavybreim a woman, but I'm here for it
For real! Rip dear Kame Toriyama, the true Turtle Hermit Sage
Why cell?
Toriyama's legacy is incredibly important for manga as a whole, but it's also important to acknowledge that the vast majority of Dragon Ball is poorly written, and this is coming from someone who genuinely loves the series since my formative years. Other than the Saiyan arc and the Namek arc (which are still not perfect stories, despite their quality), the series is not known for quality writing, and that gets more true with age and continued canonical events. It's fun, but not well-written on the whole.
All this is to say that Cell is a bad villain in a bad arc. Not an interesting video topic.
Whenever I watch this film I always feel bad for scotty. Not only does his mum get killed but his dad gets sent to jail and I always wonder what would happen to him
“Oh yeah….Scotty….”
Worst dad ever lol
And his grandad. Poor Scotty.
Has everyone forgotten about Scotty??? In a week or so of time, his mom was kidnapped and murdered, his grandfather was murdered, the people that did it killed four other people (three in Brainard and the garage attendant) before one of them killed the other and all of that was set in motion by his own father! If that kid doesn’t have some serious PTSD…
I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up becoming some hardened criminal himself with all that trauma.
It's interesting to me that even though Gaear is by far the most dangerous of the main villainous trio, I get more easily enraged by Jerry and Carl, especially Jerry - I guess as a viewer I'm more tuned to be frustrated with someone being pathetic than them being directly evil.
As Vile points out, it’s also Carl’s fault Gaear even got involved in the first place, and Jerry’s for going along with it. If it weren’t for them, Gaear would be terrorizing someone else instead.
Pathetic is often evil. Weak, cowardly and stupid people can instigate really terrible harm and never give a thought to their own responsibility for it.
ANALYSISING EVIL TIGHTEN FROM MEGAMIND
I was born and raised in Seattle, WA, but my extended family is from Minnesota. Every time I would go out there it was like going to a different world. Very surreal. I remember being shocked when we went there in the late 80's and all the skater punks were wearing penny loafers.
2:06 I believe it’s known as good old fashioned British emotional repression, until you snap and go full Fargo 😆
I literally just spent the last 5 months living in Detroit Lakes, MN. I’m born and raised from Kentucky. Minnesota nice is absolutely real. I just had to move back to KY abruptly and it’s the biggest culture shock I’ve ever felt. Living in Minnesota is like being constantly surrounded by the most seemingly emotionally mature people ever.
I’m from southeastern KY and was wondering how “Minnesota Nice” compares to “southern hospitality”.
Well, I’m not sure if I’m even all that familiar with southern hospitality or I might just be a bit biased but honestly, I’ve never felt anything like the Minnesota Nice vibe before. I was only there for about 5 months but as soon as I had a steady job and interacted with the public regularly, I was just taken aback by how nice and polite 99% of people are up there. It’s just a whole vibe. You can feel it in the air.
@@thedopegod1134 Sounds like a good vibe! I think KY is an interesting state because there’s a distinct mix of American subcultures here, western KY is very midwestern and the Appalachians are more similar to the south; I lived in Lexington for six years and it’s like a clash of south and north (my experience of northern states only extending to Indiana and Ohio). I wouldn’t say you could feel our hospitality in the air though. I’d love to visit MN and experience it myself!
I’m from western KY and there’s definitely more of a midwestern vibe here for sure.
Thanks for this episode, what a wonderful film. There’s a lot of fascinating villains in the Fargo series, like: Lorne Malvo (s1), Hanzee Dent (s2), V.M. Varga (s3), Odis Weff (s4), and Ole Munch (s5), and they would probably provide the basis for some delicious episodes of Analyzing Evil. There’s plenty more interesting evil characters, in there, too. Here’s another set: Lester Nygaard (s1), The Gerhardts (s2), Yuri Gurka (s3), Orietta Mayflower (s4), Roy Tillman (s5). What a wonderful show. What the hell, one more: Wrench and Numbers (s1), Mike Milligan (s2), the brothers Stussy (s3), Loy Cannon (s4), Gator Tillman (s5). Honorable mention goes to: Rabbi Milligan (s4), Zelmare and Swanee (s4), the brothers Fadda (s4) and Captain Theodore Roach (s4). I don’t understand why many didn’t like season 4. If you like to analyze evil, and I do, there’s a lot to chew on in there.
My family is from Minnesota. While my parents were in Florida they ran into a British man that said they sounded like the people in Fargo and asked if they were from MN, I asked my parents if they said "yeah" and they told me "yeah".
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And let's not forget, little snot nose Scotty has to be raised by Jerry's parents now.
I've always looked at Jerry as largely a product of his relationship with his wife's father. The film establishes pretty well that he struggles to be the man of his own household, and it's implied that his father-in-law is trying to force him out and he thinks he's pathetic. Over the course of the movie, his father-in-law strong-arms him, takes advantage of him, and ultimately his father-in-law's own downfall is caused by underestimating what Jerry was willing to do, and forcing himself to take charge of the situation.
They don't explicitly state it, but the business deals that went bad before the start of the movie that kick off his desperation were probably made to try and get out from the shadow of Wade's wealth. And it's possible that there were events earlier then what he even tells about, that led him to become more and more desperate. With the clear threat that Wade seems to present to Jerry, that he'll be ready to take his family away from him
Sure, he never commits any crimes, but what he did to Jerry over the parking lot was just plain cold, and something you just don't do to family. There's no reasonable way he didn't know that Jerry You can't excuse Jerry for what he's done, but ultimately Wade made Jerry a desperate man. Wade's need to constantly strong arm Jerry even leads him to put his daughter's life in danger, when he takes the money against the explicit instructions of the hostage takers.
None of this excuses Jerry's actions. He put his wife in danger. It was indefensible. But the movie implies pretty clearly that Wade's downfall was his own making. He even put his daughter's own life in danger, when he ignored the hostage-takers' instructions and rushed off to trade the money himself. Jerry is not some victim in all of this, but Wade? Wade brought his own fate upon himself when he underestimated what a man, who he made very desperate, capable of.
The bad karma runs rampant in this amazing movie.
Margie's husband wasn't the only one that loved her. Fargo was a great movie, and Frances McDormand was just so great in it.
The only thing better than her performance in the film was her strut across the stage while accepting her Oscar for it.
After living in PA all my life and moving to MPLS at 25, I can attest to this "politeness". It is often more genuine then ppl think it is, like the gentleman code of Victorian England, it is a form of discipline designed to make those around you more comfortable. A sacrifice, small yes, but a sacrifice of self for the larger social group.
I moved from MPLS to Honolulu another place where ppl are incredibly kind, though I'll say, in Hawaii, it is not an act, but perhaps a form of geographic psychology born of being born in a physical (if not mental) paradise.
Living now in Baltimore I can tell you, passive aggressive or not, it's far preferable to the feral lack of social consideration on display here every day
Love the part where you were basically like “now that we’ve established how stupid Jerry is, let’s talk some more about that.” Haha.
Also would love to see some videos on Jojo villains, especially Yoshikage Kira.
Peter Stomare is so menacing in this great film .
"BLOOD HAS BEEN SHED JERRY!"
-Animal Blundetto
What ever happened there
@@conservativemillennial1493 WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE?!
WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE??!!!
@@XanderShiller TAKE IT EASY…..
We're not making a western here.
My wife is from Japan, so she doesn't speak English fluently, ans had never watched this movie until we picked up at a rental store (they are still popular today in Japan) Watching her react to this film, as she was not ready for it to be so hilarious, was PRICELESS.
Funny enough they actually made a movie about a Japanese woman who watches Fargo, except in the movie she thinks its a real story and hunts for the briefcase.
Lorne Malvo is a must
Some suggestions:
- Analyzing Evil: Park Yeon-jin from The Glory
- Analyzing Evil: Thor "The Swede" Gundersen from Hell on Wheels
I actually think Jerry’s biggest motive in his actions is exactly what you say around 20:00. His pride and the fact that he is unwilling to share his troubles with his family, in fear of judgement. His greed and stupidity are only supplementary to that motive.
Neurotic, Cowardly, Nervous AND Impulsive
Sounds like the perfect combination of someone who accidentally has a bad day...everyday
Let’s not forget the fact that he also bribed a college admissions office.
Thank you so much, VileEye! This is a great movie to analyze.
(A. A. Gill wrote a brilliant article for Vanity Fair back April, 2012 called "Nordic Exposure". He briefly touches on how the 'ego' is viewed in Scandinavian culture).
I love when Mike Milligan calls out the Sheriff for being nice. He gets it lol.
Shep truly steals all the scenes he’s in.
Marge also can’t risk a physical altercation with these characters. No only because she’s pregnant, and not because she’s a woman, but because she’s alone during this whole investigation. The only one she really has is with Grimsmud at the end and fortunately she surprises him and she already has her gun out.
She has to kill em with kindness.
4:29 I was born and raised in Northern Minnesota in a family that came to this region shortly after the Civil War. I used to think that "Minnesota Nice" wasn't real, that it was an undeserved stereotype. Not long after hitting 30, I got myself into a career that took me all over the nation and it didn't take me long to realize that Americans everywhere were rude and mean. Yup, Minnesota Nice is an actual real concept.
I can’t believe my favorite CZcams channel has finally covered my favorite movie.
Fargo is a masterpiece. This was the role that WHM was born to play.
Minnesotan here, thank you for calling it what it actually is, MN Passive Aggression. Makes for great storytelling for sure. And yes, the accents are largely on point.
I've traveled a bit and I can assure you, passive aggressive isn't unique to Minnesota. Try any of the states. Or England some time.
8:40 I worked as a security guard in a hospital in San Francisco.
Part of my job was to relieve the parking lot attendant, meaning I'd do his job for an hour while he had lunch. That lot had the same rule where just pulling into the parking lot meant you had to pay money, even if they pulled in and left the structure at once.
I was walking back after the attendant came back from lunch and I saw an older guy pull in, then start to back out when he realized he didn't want to park there. The problem wat, the lot had those tire spreaders that keep people going out the inside.
I stopped him before he damaged his tires and told him where to go to get back out. I told him not to worry about any charge, I'd fix it for him.
So while he drove I walked back to the booth. I explained to the attendant what had happened but the attendant still wanted to charge him $5. I ended up paying the $5 out of my own pocket. After all, the guy had to balance his register.
The driver said he would pay but I told him I knew who to talk to to get my money back.
The guy left happy and I went to talk to my boss. I did get my money back, and the next day when I went to relieve the attendant for lunch, he said they had changed the policy. If a car returned less than 10 minutes after entering the lot, they would not charge them.
Turns out the attendant hated that rule as much as I did.
The funny part was, about half way through my shift as a parking attendant the same guy showed up, only this time he'd actually parked, so that time he had to pay.
I just love this channel and look forward to every analysis. Just wanted to tell you how much i appreciate your hard work.
Fargo is one of my favorite movies. Thank you so much for covering this!
Jerry’s car loan scam with GMAC was based on a real guy who did the same thing on the east coast.
He got loans for van conversions but no vans were converted. He spent the cash on real estate and some other stuff.
Arguably one of my favorite films from the Coen Brothers, truly beauty ❤!!
Sinclair Lewis's "Main Street" exploded this stereotype in 1920. Back then there was also a lot of prejudices between all the different people from different Scandinavian countries. I read it in 2012, and it was still relatable.
Not only would I recommend a video on Lorne, but maybe a video on every Fargo season, with Hanzee and Varga as well. They all deserve their flowers and have great material for analysis. Great video!
SUGGESTION: Have you covered the God Empirer of either 40K or Dune?
Dune would be a good topic as its just got its second movie. The golden path is a great topic, and I think you are up to the challenges. There are many but I believe in you ❤️
40k is garbage
Please do a video on The Governor from The Walking Dead tv series 🙏
"I'll do a damn lot count! Right now. You're darn tootin'!"
Epic, just rewatched this gem yesterday!
The parking lot proposal was sound. That's the thing about Jerry that never adds up for me. It had to be a _very_ good idea if it got a guy like Wade interested, when he was still bothered by losing money on similar deals THIRTY YEARS prior. Everything else can be summed up as the actions of an incompetent idiot, except for that. It makes all of those "But Why" questions, that you might dismiss due to stupidity, stand out more.
There are some comedians who don't seem to quite know what funny is, so they just try everything they can think of. Similarly, I think Jerry is too out of his depth in all things to tell a good idea from a bad one, so he tries them all and hopes it'll work out in the end. Kind of like hedging your bets, to borrow from the video's gambling theory.
Funny thing that Wade refuses to directly finance Jerry's parking lot enterprise to the tune of $750000 just to have to bring $1000000 to one and still be murdered there shortly afterwards.
Heck yeah! One of my favorite Coen brothers movies! Also great video too. Could a potential episode be on Donald Pierce from Logan?
This is the first video I've seen your face, your style is so consistent it feels super natural even though it's a big change. You integrated it very well
As a Norwegian. This is really spot on.
And i kinda like it here, where talking to strangers on public transport is seen as something only crazies and drunks do. Unless you have a damn good reason, like a question or a plead for assistance.
Oh, and if we ever ask how you're doing, it's not an invitation to talk about your personal life. We don't EVER do that to people we haven't known for 10+ years or reeeeeaaaaaaally have a deep relationship with. And even then we'll ask specifics.
"How are you" had two accepted answers; I'm good or I'm ok.
My god, that question, "How are you," is one of the worst sides of our culture.
Say "Hei. Hva skjer?" or something instead of posing a question you don’t want the answer to.
The only answer to How are you, in the usa, is also 'how are you'. Its not unique to Norway.
Haven’t watched this yet but I’m assuming you’ll do the Fargo tv show as well? Now THAT is a show with some “evil” in it.
The Coen Brothers are some of my favorite filmmakers of all time.
I would absolutely love to see you do a video about Charlie Meadows from Barton Fink.
Oh my god, im actually really excited about this, i hope you do the series too
I promise you that Minnesota nice is 100% real. I spent a month in the Twin Cities at a college sports camp. Everyone was overtly friendly and polite but 2 moments stood out.
1. I got food poisoning the 3rd night. A word about this filtered to other guys staying in the dorms, and a local guy rode a Razor Scooter about 8 miles in January to buy me Pepto Bismol without me asking or even knowing the guy.
2. On 2 separate occasions, my buddy and I got lost trying to explore the city on foot. Both times a random couple or person pulled over, asked if we needed help, and then offered to take us anywhere we asked.
It's another level of friendliness I am telling ya
Yes thank you for doing this!! I hope you continue with the series: Malvo/Lester S1, Hanzee/Mike S2, Varga S3, and Roy/Munch S5!!
Each season could easily get its own analysis, tho i think Malvo and Varga would be the best, esp Varga
“Do you know what a Chicken is?”
I like how you completely omit Fadda and Roy.
@@ringkunmori I liked season 4, but can see why many don’t
As for Minnesota nice, I'll have to talk it over with Stan Grossman and get back to you.
" Pretty unfriendly, actually. But it's the way you're unfriendly-- how you're so polite about it, like you're doing me a favor. "
Perfect timing! I just rewatched this yesterday 😊
RIP akira Toriyama. Please do frieza
DBZ has so many iconic villains. Toriyama was such a talented writer and artist. He made some of the most memorable, well-designed villains in all of pop culture. It's time to cover Frieza, one of the most beloved villains in all of anime and manga.
Cry me a river
Piccolo Piccolo Piccolo!!!! From demon king to junior
This is one of your best Analyzing Evil videos and certainly one of the most pivotally best films in history. Thanks so much for sharing.
Vile Eye! Here’s a list of villains I’d definitely recommend!!!
- Lorne Malvo
- The Gerhardt Family
- The Fargo Mob
- V.M. Varga and Narwal
Being a Manitoban and north of Minnesota I will say we are polite to the point of stupidity, for example you can bump into someone and they will apologize to you. We say sorry about 2000 times a day.