How To Replace Leaky Water Main Valve // Bad Shut Off Valve DIY
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- čas přidán 13. 03. 2020
- If you have an older gate-style water valve that has an active leak then it is probably a good idea to replace it with a quarter turn ball-style valve. You can do it with about an hour of your time for less than $50 in parts. A plumber will charge you $200 to do the same repair. It is a fairly simple task as long as you have the desire to do it.
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sharkbite for a main water line. Living on the edge my friend.
He's just fine. The Shakebites are twenty years old and doing just fine. People love perpetuating fear. If Tom Silva says it's ok, that's good enough for me. Mine are 10 years old and are fine (behind drywall too! Oh my!)
Dude I'm loving how you camera shot in depth &show everything! Ty!
This is an excellent of How To Replace Leaky Water Main Valve CZcams and thank you very much!👍
Mine is very gunky and is a bit older.
This has encouraged me to try it, but still a bit hesitant!
FYI. There should be a slip version of sharkbite ball valve now. You could have up 2'' space to connect.
Thank you!! Helpful!
Nice job 👍
Great video! Nice work on the replacement!
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Did you or could you provide a list of materials you used, please?
great video....thankyou......😃
You had a chance to do it right with the water off and pipe cut. Sharkbite's are not a good idea long-term. I hope people are not following this as a good how to video for a long-term fix.
Why are shark bites not a long term solution? Thats the first time I've heard that
Go with professional copper crimps or sweats and / or pex. Avoid sharkbites as they are too fragile.
Shark bites are fine for short or long term. The issue here is that could have been fixed in a few minutes with $3 worth of graphite or Teflon packing rope, and not needed to use sharkbites. Also would not need to add the extra piece of copper would you have used a hacksaw to cut the old valve out rather than the pipe cutter, that wasted probably about an inch of pipe.
@@kevin83FL on a water main? No shark bites are designed for temporary fixes on simple fixtures not the main water supply lol, what he should have done is called the city, shut the water off at the street.. installed shark bite to drain remaining water in THAT line and then soldered in a permanent ball valve.
Undo that union and sweat in a new piece of copper tube to the correct length to eliminate the extra shark bite coupler…
Thanks, good and clear demo to me.
Does the shark bite work for the electrical ground bond? It looks like that was a ground wire next to where you were working.
Good question! The ground wire was attached right where the pipe disappears through the wall, so on the street side of the SharkBite that I installed. This means my Shark Bite connection wouldn't affect the ground one way or another.
How do you approach replacing the valve if there is no play to move the pipe either side of the valve? In the video there was a lot of play in the pipe above the valve, that's not what I have typically seen or have in my home. In PVC they make extending couplings for that situation, maybe there is something similar for copper?
Maybe if you leave that existing valve in place and wide open but cut the pipe somewhere else in the line?
@@SpiritofaHandyman I think the difference is you live an area that has basements where plumbing is accessible and there are often relatively long runs. I live where there are no basements and freezing isn't a concern; plumbing is buried underground and inside the walls. The supply line comes up from the ground outside the house, has about 12" of pipe, then a gate valve for the main shutoff, then an tee with one side going into the exterior wall, the other is a hose bib. No obvious easy solution to replace the gate valve.
You should use a regular coupling that doesn't have the stops inside it or sand down the stops so that the coupling can slide fully into the pipe then sweat the fitting on. I personally hate using shark bite connectors, but they are good for certain applications. Soldering the pipe is always the better option for long term reliability and it isn't very difficult to do nor does it require many tools.
@@MrSamwiseganja shark bites are great when it's accessible. I'd never use one in a wall or hard to reach place though.
that into and outro music thing is funny 👍👍
Shark bit is risky especially for a main water valve?
Thanks bro
Hello, did you use Teflon tape or glue on the new push-to-connect valve, or does it seal itself?
No tape or glue required for the push-to-connect fittings
The outside of pipe seals with a rubber gasket in the fitting so the outside of the pipe needs to be immaculate.
@6:23 what copper pipe type do you recommend getting? I was looking on home depot and found they have many ratings (type M, L, etc.) - wasn't sure which one to get!
I wasn’t aware they had different ratings
@@SpiritofaHandyman What do you charge your customer for this job? My house is really old and the shut off valve runs along the floor so there's not enough room to run the pipe cutter around it like you did. And I wouldn't be able to put anything underneath it to catch the water that comes out because it lays along the floor. So would my floor just have to get soaked? And what other tool could be used to cut the pipe since the tool you used won't work on mine? And you think a plumber would charge $145 to complete this job? How long should the job take from start to finish?
@@septembersapphire347 $145 sounds like a very reasonable price for a tricky location.
I got a bid for this, 1175 bucks. Seriously going to try it myself.
Thats why im here. Thank you Alex I figured they would try and gouge people. Got a drip pan under it now. Temporary band aid.😔 I dont know if i have the guts to give it a whirl or not. Wish you the best let me know how it goes! Best of Luck!!
Make sure you look up proper procedures when using shark bite fittings, I know one of the most important things is deburring the cut edge before slipping it on, otherwise you can cut the internal o-ring
How would I do this if there is no street shut off? I have a well that has pressure but no way to shut it off.
If you shut off the power to your wellpump you will lose pressure real fast
This is a real shark plumber.
My valve and pipes are behind drywall so that I can turn the handle but I have no access to the pipes. What do I do?
You will have to open the drywall to get further access
Awesome
There isn’t any soldering with it?? How does it not leek?
This is pure comedy 🤣🤣🤣
Shut off main water valve in house. Changed filter. Then when I tried to turn the water back on the main valve just keeps spinning. The handle and the stem spin but it never stops spinning. Water won t come in from outside?
Sounds like you have a bad gate valve
Spirit of a Handyman yeah this is essentially what i ve been assuming.
@@irockbmw6s908 yes gate valve is stuck closed. It happens alot actually with them, especially with age of 10 years or more on them.
Change the gate valve not sure why you're asking a question you seem too have the answer for.
Most of the time (trolls read: most of the time) one of two things causes this - the end of the shaft came loose from the gate by the end of the threads being gone due to various reasons, or two, the threads of the shaft are gone completely and let go of the gate. Either way, sometimes you can simply pull out on the handle while spinning and it MAY bring the gate open and it will just become a push valve. I have seen an older lady have this on her house for about 15 years now without issue and she still has it today.
How do you measure the diameter of the pipe to make sure you get the right shark bite?
Buy all three sizes and return the ones that aren’t good fits
Measure it width wide. It goes by outer diameter, most main shut off valves for residential are 3/4 inch pipes, and toilets and sinks are 1/2inch
Its a globe valve...I live in the city how do I find the street cut off?
Behind your property an access is buried somewhere, you have to jump through hoops and hire their people etc to go in there wrenching the valve
After seeing what he did, then going back and looking at his still frame of his face with that grin .... Now I can't stop laughing 🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭 .... Don't pay me any mind 😭😭😭😭
Is shark bite safe to use, especially for a main water valve
It has held up all this time
@@SpiritofaHandyman Thank you very much.
Make sure to drain the house once the the water is off.
The comments got me on the floor !!! 🤣🤣😭😭😭😭😭
Did need sweat/solder the foints😊
At 7:30 I thought your head was bleeding but realized it was your glasses 😅
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was there any option to repair old valve? can you change gasket in the old valve?
That was an option, and I have done that before but for the cost of purchasing a replacement vs the time it takes to make the repair wasn't worth it in this situation
Seems like a lot less work than cutting the pipe etc
SharkBite on main shutoff valve? Did you give the home owner the street shutoff tool and show them how to shut it off at the street if main shutoff started leaking?
Have you had bad experiences with SharkBite fittings I take it?
@@SpiritofaHandyman Well actually no, but used in open area like sinks and toilets and not inside walls. The worst could happen is leaks are seen and they can shut off main and get another SharkBite to replace. With main leaking you would need to call a plumber or city to shut off the street valve and hopefully the basement would not be under water by then.
Better keep a identical spare close by just in case the whole thing blows due to people slamming those 90 degrees main ball valve shut during some other emergency.
I'm surprised you show your audience how to debur the pipe as well as reem the inside, I like to clean the copper as if I was going to solder. Granted I'm a DIY as well, I just like to take an extra 5 mins to prep things properly..
Great Video.....
Why didn't you just repair the valve with some packing rope & tightening the packing nut?
I couldn't find any hardware store in my area that sells the packing rope. I have done that once before but figured it would be easier to just replace the entire valve.
I just rebuild them with plumbers tape on the threads and a new washer.
That is a better idea, just swap out the innards of the one that was already soldered in, I would also install a second valve while the water is off
Could have at least used a slip coupler and eliminate the need for second coupler. Hopefully you're not shark biting the bath remodels
shark bite on the main lol what a catastrophe waiting to happen
FYI, for anyone out there, you can turn off your water without a special tool. Just use needle nose pliers. Works just the same.
Thanks I'm about to dive into this myself
This guy really messed up that whole situation didn't even measure the piping right so when that SharkBite goats out he has even a worse mess than he started with
I can't find my water well~~~
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Tighten the packing nut or replace the packing. Often times the packing nut will leak if it hasnt been turned off in a long time. Usually you just tighten it a quarters to half turn and ur good. Save yourself the trouble of replaceing the whole valve. Its a stop valve not a gate valve. The rubber washer can be replaced along with the bibb screw that holds it in. A valve that can be maintenanced replace the parts it will last as long as the brass will last. We live in a throw away society.
Definitely a handy man fix and a plumber would not use the same material.
Id say yes and no. If all water can be out for a single family home then a solder connection would be best. If multiple homes or apts affected then the quickest and most error free method would be best. Aka push connection.
I wouldn't use SharkBite on a permanent fix
I can’t turn off out door water cause county need real plumber to do it … main water they won’t let me do o .. ..
You can't be putting sharkbite ball valves on water mains. It's not code. You need a proper 1" soldered in ball valve or a gate valve like the one that was removed. What you did is not code.
Shut off your curb box, crack open the packing nut, fit a new 30cent rubber washer..and you're done. Why add time to your job and added expenses to your client. Don't to wanna get called back?
This guy
doesn't know what hes talking about, don't follow his directions. You need to clean the copper ends and deburring or you'll have leaks
If you are not a licensed plumber then you have no business messing with someone else’s main shutoff valve. You should have had a plumber come fix the shutoff. I know it’s not cheap, but you are asking for legal issues if that fails and does extensive damage.
I’m too lazy to D.I.M. 😭
dude why a sharkbite? call a plumber man
Definitely should have added an extension to the bottom, and used soldered connections for a main waterline
Sharkbite for main shutoff valve. Hell no
Holy hell what a hack job. I'm not even a plumber but I think that look pretty jankey.
All you had to do is tighten the packing nut... had plenty of thread left.... you will be lucky if those shark bites last 7 or 8 years.
Too. Late now.. Your valve missing a drain. Like the old valve have.. 😂
Looks like it's leaking from the packing nut. Could have just tightened that and save loads of time and some money. Also shark bites leak.
Shark bites don’t leak if you fit them correctly
I've never had one leak, use them a bunch --- like anything prep is key
Sharkbites take professionalism out of the trade. Doesnt matter if they work or not. If you're trained and licensed and have pride in your work, do it the professional way, not the weekend warrior that doesn't know fuck all. Prove them wrong and hand the bill.
Good for DIY, but not a pro.
Huh, no, don't follow this.
As a proffesional plumber there is many problems with suggesting people to fix this problem with this solution bad advice
I'm not a plumber and wouldn't do it for insurance purposes. I know how to do it well but I'll let the plumber take the "plunge" if something goes wrong.
I WOULD NOT TRUST ANY HOUSE TO SHARK BITE VALVES FOR THE WATER MAIN!!! LUNACY!!! They are known to have failed and slipped off, causing a disaster in regular connections.
Sharkbiting your house's Water Main?!
CALL A PLUMBER, OR LEARN TO SOLDER WELD COPPER.
Please.
It's NOT difficult.