STOMP XL vs HELIX LT | How To Decide Which is Right for You

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  • čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
  • In this video I compare the Line 6 Helix LT to the Stomp XL. You get a little buyers guide and decision help and an overview of the advantages or disadvantages, things you might not have thought about from the perspective of a Helix LT user.
    0:00 Intro
    0:47 Technical differences
    4:13 Size, weight and cost
    5:12 Power supply
    6:32 TRS outputs
    7:53 Expression pedal
    8:24 Extra items needed for the Stomp
    9:23 Reliability & flexibility
    10:16 Transportation
    10:53 Mini pedalboard?
    11:27 Outro
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Komentáře • 50

  • @gigicatrina7960
    @gigicatrina7960 Před rokem +2

    Thank you, your video helped me with my decision, now i lean more towards the LT.

  • @SaschaOnBass
    @SaschaOnBass Před 6 měsíci

    Good thoughts. Helped me. Thanks!

  • @HAWKINSTUDIOS
    @HAWKINSTUDIOS Před rokem +1

    Good Job! Thanks Michael

  • @YuriYefimov
    @YuriYefimov Před 9 měsíci

    Отличный обзор! Спасибо! Очень правильное замечание насчет DiBox. Часто техники говорят - а зачем тебе стерео? У нас нет такого количества DiBox! Давай мы оставим моно! :-)

  • @dreamawaythemiles
    @dreamawaythemiles Před rokem

    very helpful. I currently have an HX effects but wan to go "all in one". Ultimately size is the deciding factor for me

  • @rumy6871
    @rumy6871 Před rokem +4

    Michael, thank you for the helpful explanation. The DSP limitation on the Stomp XL is disappointing. I really don't care about having an expression pedal but all the other points you made -- power supply concerns, XLR outs, carrying a DI box, and the need to have extra FX pedals because of DSP limits -- have me leaning towards the LT.

  • @ogmakefirefiregood
    @ogmakefirefiregood Před 3 měsíci

    After watching this video, I decided on the Friedman irx and Eventide H90 with a mini expression pedal. Keep those fingers warm!

  • @bruunm1975
    @bruunm1975 Před rokem +1

    Good stuff. Thanks for this. I’m using the full fat Helix Floor and we are playing lots of gigs this year (in a covers band that I was asked to join). I’m looking at something to bring with me in case my stops during a show and then I’d have sounds ;)
    Also looking at a Helix Floor as I just need a bread and butter sound for my backup to complete the gig.

    • @michaelseebass
      @michaelseebass  Před rokem +2

      If you just need a backup the small HX Stomp might be a good solution for that

    • @bruunm1975
      @bruunm1975 Před rokem

      @@michaelseebass thanks. All my patches have a combination of snaps and individual on off for FX. So I feel it might be to far different without the extra switches.

  • @garystackhouse5787
    @garystackhouse5787 Před 11 měsíci +2

    It's funny how we musician's tend to think. Like most every other gear 'review' or 'guide' on CZcams, this was a wonderful exercise in you justifying having purchased the LT over the Stomp... but pretty useless as an unbiased guide to "How to decide which is right for you"!) Essentially all you did was reach deep to find reasons the LT is worth the extra money/weight/size. The Stomp has its place for the right player and the right situation. I ALSO have used an LT exclusively for several years... I'm considering replacing it for live gigs with a POD GO, as I don't utilize all the power of the LT and would love to fit my rig in the front pocket of my dual gig bag (and the POD GO is considerably lighter (and cheaper) than the Stomp XL!)

    • @michaelseebass
      @michaelseebass  Před 11 měsíci

      The Stomp indeed has its place, and in lot's of situations it might be exactly what you need - which is exactly what I say in the video. I do own both the Stomp (small version) and the Helix LT, and have used both extensively, I have no reason to justify anything. I had good reasons to go for the LT initially, those are nothing I have to "reach deep" for. Generally for this decision, there are (in my view) a few key factors which I go over in the video. If these features of the LT are important to you (or the viewer), then of course this video (rightly) gets a bias towards the LT. The Pod Go is certainly also an interesting device, a friend of mine has one and is very satisfied.

  • @2manyguitars
    @2manyguitars Před rokem

    Danke für den Vergleich. Stomp XL könnte ich mir neben meinem Kemper gut vorstellen.

    • @michaelseebass
      @michaelseebass  Před rokem +1

      Klar! Passt sicher auch gut um die Effekt-Seite zu bedienen und der Kemper kümmert sich um den Amp-Sound 🙂

  • @bradsims7089
    @bradsims7089 Před rokem +3

    Thanks for the video. I have a Pod Go and I'm pretty happy with it. I think I will skip the Stomp XL and go to the LT when/if I want an upgrade.

    • @michaelseebass
      @michaelseebass  Před rokem +1

      That sounds like a good plan 🙂

    • @ricotinez
      @ricotinez Před rokem +1

      Are guy still happy with the Pod Go?

    • @bradsims7089
      @bradsims7089 Před rokem

      @ricotinez Yes. I've had mine for almost 2 years. Other than not being able to split the signal path it does everything I want.

    • @ericvandruten
      @ericvandruten Před 7 měsíci

      @@ricotinez I love it for rehearsals, when you can get away with basic sounds (I dont like complicated presets too much).
      The line-6 wireless units have dropped out a couple of times on our last tour, though. I had to sand the metal battery contacts a bit, and fold the back up for better contact with the batteries. If you move too suddenly, the belt pack will reboot.
      The Pod GO wireless has drop-out / weak reception areas, as described in the manual.

  • @robgerety
    @robgerety Před rokem +1

    Thanks for this. I am deciding what Line 6 device to get for use in my home guitar practice room. Not for gigging. Yet. Sub'd. Can I put music out from iphone and then into both Stomp XL and Helix LT? Headphone use same in both Stomp XL and Helix LT?

    • @El_Maycol
      @El_Maycol Před rokem

      don't think you can do it with your phone, but you can connect the helix to a computer and set it as your output device, that way you'll be able to listen to anything that's playing on your computer and also you'll be able to connect your guitar and play along as you want

  • @LeadMuncher09
    @LeadMuncher09 Před rokem +1

    This is a perfect comparison video. I am thinking to replace my entire pedalboard with a Helix LT. Thank you

  • @El_Maycol
    @El_Maycol Před rokem +2

    for me the decision would be based on what you have right now, do you already have a pedalboard, get the stomp, if you don't, get the LT

    • @michaelseebass
      @michaelseebass  Před rokem

      Agreed, if you already have a pedalboard (and don't want to replace it or get a secondary system) that's probably a deciding factor as well.

  • @MrQueueBall
    @MrQueueBall Před rokem

    Btw, I was able to power my HX Stomp XL with 800 mA.
    The 3A power supply isn’t designed specifically for the Stomp but for a lot of Line6 products.

    • @michaelseebass
      @michaelseebass  Před rokem +1

      That's interesting, thanks for clarifying!

    • @MrQueueBall
      @MrQueueBall Před rokem +2

      @@michaelseebass
      My pleasure. My current board has the Stomp XL, a Boss MD-500, Boss DD-500, and a Boss RV-500. All four are powered by a single 5 port Strymon Ojai.

    • @rovenordiales
      @rovenordiales Před 8 měsíci +1

      You can actually run the hx stomp using a myvolts cable plugged in to a powerbank. So portability wise stomp really wins.

  • @timsierra9417
    @timsierra9417 Před rokem

    Will the Helix IR will work on HX stomp XL? Thank you

  • @bastianmaoro8278
    @bastianmaoro8278 Před rokem +1

    How many blocks you can have with the 3.50 firmware and the LT version of the Helix MFX? Thanks

    • @benblyze7921
      @benblyze7921 Před rokem

      16 blocks on the LT with the latest firmware.

  • @richiebohr5421
    @richiebohr5421 Před rokem +1

    The Stomp doesn't have a VDI port either for the Variax

    • @michaelseebass
      @michaelseebass  Před rokem

      That's true. If you want to play a Variax that's important of course.

  • @SirTupsAlot
    @SirTupsAlot Před 10 měsíci

    Seems like the Stomp XL is the same as a POD GO in terms of DSP but with a degraded interface and no expression pedal. I'm not sure why a person would take one of these compared with a slightly cheaper Pod GO.
    I wish Line 6 would take the full DSP processing power of the Helix and put it in the Pod GO form factor and call it something better so that it's more obviously in the HX family.

    • @michaelseebass
      @michaelseebass  Před 10 měsíci

      I don't own the Pod GO but as far as I know on the Pod GO the effects chain is fixed, meaning there are designated slots where you can use certain effects. For example at the start you have your wha slot, and while you can turn it off, you can't remove it. Same would probably go for other blocks, if you want to do anything special it's probably not as easy on the Pod GO. Also from what I recall there is a small number of effect models that are not available on the Pod Go. I might be wrong, Pod Go users feel free to correct me. Essentially if you need more flexibility the Stomp is good. The Pod Go is more of a "ready to go" all in one package without too much in depth flexibility

    • @SirTupsAlot
      @SirTupsAlot Před 10 měsíci

      @@michaelseebass It's not a fixed effects chain. The blocks are configurable but there is only a single chain where the Helix and Stomp have 2 chains.

    • @ericvandruten
      @ericvandruten Před 7 měsíci

      The stomp XL is the Stomp's big brother. The Pod Go has less fx power, (2 fx blocks less than the Stomp / Stomp XL). It does have 4 snapshots per preset though, like the Stomp XL. The Stomp has three snapshots per preset.
      the Pod Go is really about ease of use, with the in-built expression pedal and wireless (accepting the other Line 6 beltpacks too). Put it on the floor, switch on and play.

  • @cacacoco2
    @cacacoco2 Před 10 měsíci

    Hey, can I set two outputs in the stomp ? one for DI and other to go through an amp?

    • @michaelseebass
      @michaelseebass  Před 10 měsíci +1

      You mean using the left main out and right main out separately for that? Not sure but my guess would be yes it's probably possible. You would split your chain and just have the amp on one of them and then assign different outputs at the end of the split chain. But I would have to test this to make sure, so please don't rely on it, it's just my guess right now

    • @ericvandruten
      @ericvandruten Před 7 měsíci +1

      yes, that's possible. You can split the signal chain, and put a cab sim / IR on one chain, and direct that to your DI path. the other one can then go to the amp (fx return)
      The Pod Go has a separate output for amp, so one amp and 2 main outs.

    • @cacacoco2
      @cacacoco2 Před 7 měsíci

      @@ericvandruten DI signal goes through the Send output in the Hx Stomp?

    • @ericvandruten
      @ericvandruten Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@cacacoco2 nope. Create an A + B path in the fx chain. Pan A to left, B to right. Send the left output to your amp return.
      Put an IR or cab sim in the B path. Send R Output to FOH.

    • @cacacoco2
      @cacacoco2 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@ericvandruten cool, thanks man ill try It !!

  • @cristianrachitan6039
    @cristianrachitan6039 Před měsícem

    you dont need a DI Box for TRS outputs! TRS Balanced outputs are like XLR You only need the proper TRS-> XLR Male Cable

  • @ajaypimpalapure1322
    @ajaypimpalapure1322 Před 5 měsíci

    There is no expression pedal