DF83V vs Kafatek Flat Max 2.
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
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Thank you Jack, glad you love the MAX2! I want to add that all Monolith grinders are designed and made by me and my team in my shop. We make all the parts from design, programming to CNC machining. Burrs are also designed and made in my shop. All from scratch. If you are ever in Seattle area, I'd love to show my shop and how we make these grinders.
Thank you very much for your hard work. Great end game grinder to have. Would love to see your factory one day.
Hey KafeTek, for future iterations of Flat Max, would it be possible to put a small display to show the micron levels? Something akin to the new Omnia. Think with such an upgrade, it can provide more consistency in brewing. 🙂
I Recentky purchased the DF83V and sold my Key Grinder., very happy with the DF83V. Love to ability to switch between Espresso and Drip and back so eaisly. The DF83V has plenty of body in the Espresso shots and more flavor notes than a conical grinder. Amazing value for the money.
I have never tried Key grinder myself, but I love DF83V. As you said, great value grinder for sure.
May I ask which burrs, and what roasters and roast level do you typically buy?
@@JusBThankful Bought the factory Espresso burrs. Usually buy medium/dark roast level beans from all over.
@@mycoffeeshow111 I thought the Key would be great, coming from Weber. Too many reviewers we not enamoured with it's taste profile and switching from Espresso to Drip was a nighmare.
Interesting comparison, I think it would be interesting to throw a zerno into the mix as it is slightly more than the DF83V and a lot less than the Flat Max 2
Thx for watching. I would love to try Zerno myself but my channel is too small for them to send me one 😒
You deserve more credit and respect in the coffee community. I anticipate Zerno will send their product to several reviewers who are widely known for bias review. Keep your integrity mate. Im playing with the cheap df54 at $230. Typical DF problems and annoyances but suprising good body and clarity. Bought myself and if hated send it back 😅😅 @@mycoffeeshow111
@@mycoffeeshow111 just buy one and sell it once you are done with the review.
@@maheshprabhu maybe I should wait a bit. They are making one with bigger burrs soon, or so I heard.
Always great videos
Thx for watching! It took me forever to edit this one.
Great comparison summary.
Thx for watching!
Jack as usual great video. Love your content.
Thank you for your support!
Love your video's :)
Thx for watching!
Brian Quan seemed to think there was a big difference between df83v and lagom option-o 01 with the 102mm mizen.
I like and respect Brian a lot. I haven’t tried Option O so can’t comment. I guess it all depends on personal preferences, coffee and profile you choose. In my previous test, and I done many, Kafatek was often a clear winner. But I haven’t done them blind and once you do, you might be surprised.
“When you’re at this stage of your hobby (or sickness)”…. My wife would totally say the latter. And yet she loves the coffee I make. But if I’m not making it, or she’s in a hurry, it’s the Keurig. Blech.
Hahaha. Sicknesses indeed, or madness. Btw, for next week video, I will be using pre grounded coffee from supermarket 😱
Nice video! No need to disassemble the Max ;)
Thx for watching!
Have you compared the MP also to the Cast/LabSweet burrs?
I’m planning to do that in the next few weeks, probably using Niche Duo for that.
Would it be possible to get a comparison video of the DF83v and Timemore 78s? I'm caught between these two grinders but there's little comparison content available!
I had 064s at some point but I didn’t like it much. 78s would be an interesting option for sure. Big advantage of df83 is access to different ssp burrs. Otherwise they both great grinders.
@@mycoffeeshow111 Thanks for the great comparison and adv6! I went with the DF83V in the end- I'm delighted with it l!
@@AnotherAnonymousMan glad to hear that you like it. Enjoy your coffee!
The build of a Kafatek is just unparalleled. They're definitely expensive but I assume thats obvious given that its made in USA while paying american wages, with a robust motor and all. If i ever have to get a 98mm apart from my EK, I'm getting a kafatek
It is a great grinder to have. I would probably go for LM burrs if I was buying again.
@@mycoffeeshow111 me as well.
Why'd you go with SSW vs the more common SLM?
I would probably go for LM if choosing again. I was under the impression that SW are better for 1:3 ratio and that is what I often drink. In reality, they work nicely for lower ratios as well, but are taking away some sharpness. Because of that, I sold my MC5 as they were a bit too similar.
Is the df with ssp mp or the original burr?
I used MP burrs on DF83v.
I mean we can say there are no losers sure, but considering the difference between the price being almost 4x yet the shot quality difference being so tiny, Kafatek might be a bit on the losing end here unfortunately.
It depends on how you look at that. As I said, with Kafatek you pay extra for their attention to details and quality and longevity of their components. At this stage, especially with SSP burrs, the difference in a taste won’t be proportional to the difference in the price. For me the biggest surprise was pour over where I was expecting DF83 to actually win.
Are you Polish?
Guilty. Although I have spent the last 20 years in UK.
@@mycoffeeshow111 I only asked because you mentioned friends from Poland.
I am coming up on 19 years this summer.
A slight critique, you talk and edit too fast for me.
Thx for your feedback. I aim to squeeze in a lot in less than 12min but I see your point.
@@mycoffeeshow111 Just fine for me! I usually speed up CZcams videos to 1.25 or 1.5. I didn't have to speed up yours, and I like your pace. So, I vote: keep it the same!
@@DanielPepper-mf7if thank you. You can also move straight to the last bit of the video, were I actually say something important 😛