A Heady Proposition - Part 1
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When past interventions have not only failed but created more problems they must be addressed, but simply scrapping what was once considered necessary may not be the right prescription. Understanding the why behind past work on a 400 year old wood panel can be critical in deciding what to do about it said old work and how to move forward. Though it may seem straight forward and simple, looks can be deceiving and the project can in fact be a heady proposition.
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I can’t believe they decapitated the decapitated head from this painting. That’s just adding insult to injury honestly
🤣
More like adding insult to beheading. It's not like he just walked this one off
They should have quit while they were 'a head'
@@AMindInOverdrive okay, now you're getting a head of yourself xP
Lol but seriously though the concept pieces me off. How could they gouge this masterpiece
Can someone edit this to play the Doofenschmertz Evil Inc theme every time Julien says "clampinator" please? I'm willing to pay
omg PLEASE I would also pay to watch that 🤣
I’m hearing his voice now lol thank you!
YES PLEASE
Yesssssss!!!
Ah, Perry the Portrait Painting Platypus! You're just in time to witness my newest evil creation! Behold! The Clampinator!
No one:
Julian: Is this step necessary? No.
Julian: Am I gonna do it? Yes.
Julian: Why? Because it’s pretty and it makes me happy
he is the Bob Ross of art restoration
@@calebb5106 happy little clamps
@@BabyBrightside7 This. This comment wins.
chamfered the edges, but didn't sand off the burn marks from the table saw!
Hotel? Trivago.
In an ideal world, the person who owns the top half of the painting would see this video, realize what he or she has, and offer it to be rejoined with this piece.
How cool would that be!
@@codename495 It would be even cooler if Julian got to do the rejoining and we got to see it.
Someone in the comments found it
i would adore to see the other piece!!!! i am a ginormous fan of salomé and would love to see her perspective of the piece
I really hope that happens. It bothers me to not have the whole painting.
I love how you called your table “the clampinator” 😂
I couldn’t help but think of the robot character from Futurama, “Give em the Clamps!”
I couldn't help and think of Phineas and Ferb, Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz and all his "inator" inventions.
That's literally the name of the device. You can see it at some point in the video (when he lifts the clamping table to get underneath)
Peter Carioscia well he designed and build it, so he can name it 😂😂
When he built it there was a great debate and this is the name that remained. There is a great video where you can see step by step how he made it.
So, not only the poor guy was decapitated, he also got his head split in half :/
Those were dark times indeed.
decapinception D:
AND seperated from the rest of his painting/family thing
In those days it was common practice to jerk off arms and legs with horses.
@@1959Berre Well... in John the Baptist times yes...but the painting was cut in 1903, not exactly the Dark Ages. Best wishes from Lisbon Portugal.
@@1959Berre And cover genitalia with fig leaves on sculptures. At least they didn’t loop them off.
“But I am lazy… sometimes” - same, Julian. Same 😂😂
Julian's idea of 'being lazy' is equal to what many people call a full-day's work!
@@Here4Years right?! I was like hells no Julian you are not lazy! You’re pragmatic.
This guy makes a bonus living from making videos about his job that he's passionate about, meanwhile the videos also serve as a visual documentation on top of written documentation of what he did. It's amazing to think that he managed to pull it all off and garner such a big fanbase.
What's great too is that any future conservator who happens to work on the same painting in a far off future, can hopefully comeback to this video, and see exactly what he used and not have to guess the materials/ waste their time which methods to use!
Me: Scared to even look at a 400 year old piece by a master wrong.
Julian: Applies putty knives, spatulas, brad pullers and warm water with abandon, casually pulls painting in half.
Tbh after a demonic fool ripped this painting IN HALF I'm ok with Julian's efforts
That painting looks like me in the latter half of any Baumgartner video: Trying desperately to stay awake to learn more about art history and philosophy, but slowly losing the fight against Julian’s wonderfully soporific tone of voice.
Same. I have learned SO MUCH from him!
I have a playlist so that I'll stay asleep once I conk out. I just wish he had the volume of his videos up so the adds didn't blast me awake. I could have my phone volume loud enough to hear him without becoming deaf when the adds kick in.
He always puts me to sleep
I used to last until the retouching, now I’m out before he fixes holes. I come back in the morning to watch the rest
Behold Perry the Platypus, the Clamp-inator! With this contraption, I will finally clamp down everyone in the entire! Tri! State! Area!
A platypus? A portrait painting platypus? PERRY THE PORTRAIT PAINTING PLATYPUS?!
i'm liking the new conversational style of presenting/editing with the still camera at the start! it's like we're sitting in the studio and Julian is chatting to us.
I'm not: makes it more like a tv show, and I use CZcams to avoid exactly that. Give me videos that concentrate on the job in hand rather than the presenter.
Agreed 👍🏼 I hadn’t seen Julian for a long time in my feed; it was the first thing I noticed when I watched this video, I really like the new intro format with the still camera.
@@ALT-vz3jn I hate the new intro, looks cheap (compared to his masterpieces)
I continue to be impressed by Julian’s considerable investment in tools and his skill employing them. And yes, I like a little chamfering around the edges.
Me too! And those mitres were so damn crisp. Mmmm.
21:12 Chamfering - the only job that's done properly when corners are cut.
"I'm chamfering, leave me alone"
Boss: you're fired
Groan
I feel spiritually aligned with Julian whenever he makes chamfered / bevelled edges, or neatly folds and tacks excess fabric on the back of paintings. It's just so satisfying.
"Chamfers are what separate us from the animals," said nearly every machinist ever.
I was wondering how far I'd have to scroll for a Blondihacks reference.
As a carpenter I really enjoyed this one 😊 I want the clampinator too!
Scott!! Didn't think i would find you here 😂
Having a clampinator would make today's episode that much more exciting for sure!
Scott Brown (is) here!
‘Don’t let perfection be the enemy of good’. Sure wish I’d had this bit of wisdom many times in my life. I’ll bet things would have been finished either more quickly or indeed, finished at all. Thanks Julian, this is now my motto!
Like, I had to pause the video and think about it for a minute. I decided to write it down and read it as often as I need to. Being a perfectionist has it's bad sides... sometimes even a lot of them. Don't let perfection be the enemy of good, that's what I got to remember and I'll do my best to follow this advice every day.
@@lillithfaery4940
An A- is still an A.
@@lillithfaery4940 I would imagine that if you are a perfectionist even your good is terrific! I’m kind of an all or nothing person, so this advise resonates with me. It’s a terrific motto for me to follow.
For a moment I had to check which video I was watching as the saying was familiar from 'City Planner Plays' Cities Skylines videos.
"And now that you don't have to be perfect, you can be good." - John Steinbeck
15:39 that little slip-up 😂 it happens to the best of us!
This painting looks like me after I wake up from a "15 minute" nap😂
6 hours later… Yup
Same
Julian: *grins, pauses mid-sentence* me: DAD JOKE INCOMING
When you built the clampinator I was worried that you'll never use it again, but I guess you know the problems of the paintings that are waiting you. Thanks for every video! 🙏🙏🙏🤗
I'm sort of secretly wondering if he received *this* commission because he had a Clampinator already!
@@MizzMaree7 I think he said when he built clampinator that there are lots of work he needed to do with the clampinator. So I guess there are a lot of wood painting already at that time
I was wondering if we would ever see that thing again and- Voila!
Oh mah gawd, you gave the Clampinator a title plate! And you made sure we saw it with a modest shot. I am VERY pleased!
As someone with ADHD I like going from project to project and I think this could be my “forever fixation” because it’s art, history AND problem solving
Sound Editor Guy: 15:36
Julian: You had one job!
😂😂😂
11:48- Baumgartner," I'm using little pieces of mdf with felt and siliconized mylar." ...me, "I'm using little pieces of cardboard, tissue and plastic wrap."
Julian is a multiverse variant of Tony Stark who is humble, approachable, and works with analog tech-still a genius
Somebody give this guy his own PBS show already!
This suddenly gave me "my mechanics" vibes in the middle.
Julian: This cradle is old and poorly designed.
Julian, channeling my mechanics: I make a new one.
Yes! Lol
My mechanics would have machined his own c clamps too
A fellow connoisseur!!!
SAME!
lol yeaa i watch them too
Poor John. Seems like everybody wanted to turn his noggin into a thousand piece puzzle. Guy needs a break. 😢
Least he's a canonised Sait so I guess if heaven exists he went there, guy atlest got that win
@@komi-sanmustbeprotected5665 could've gone to heaven without drying horribly to cover up an adultery of a horny king...
JB: (28:00) " _And I don't need to reinvent the wheel here._ "
Me _thinking_ : " And If so, this would be exactly the guy I would pass over this delicate job for sure! "
he got so comfortable being in fromt of the the camera compared to like first vids im so proud
You should do a "Day in the life of Baumgartner Restoration" video. A friend of mine watched one of your videos and said "of course he's good, he only works on on painting a week!". I'm thinking that's not true. Just so we get an idea of all you do in a day that's not normally in one of your restoration videos. Just a thought or idea. Great job Julian!!
He has a studio tour video where I think he talks about how he usually has several projects going at once. Restoration has a lot of dry time, so on any given day he'll have two paintings on suction, a few on the drying/flattening rack, a few getting clamped, a few in the humidifier, one on the retouching easel, a couple frame repairs, etc, etc.
Just doing the math - he says he’s been conserving about two decades and worked on thousands of paintings. Just taking the absolute minimums of 20 years and 2,000 paintings, thats 100 paintings a year or 2/week. And I’m pretty sure he’s done more than 2,000 so that number gets bumped up a LOT, plus that assumes he works every week (no vacation etc.)
Alternate universe Julian with Dr. Doofenshmitz voice: BEHOLD THE CLAMPINATOR! (Looks at painting) A baptist? JOHN THE BAPTIST?!
This was perfect👌🏻
470 years old?? That is amazing! Also, I love the smooth transition to the wren ad
I watched an episode of the 'UK Repair Shop' last week which involved someone bringing in an oil painting in need of restoration. My wife was surprised when I started pre-empting the process - cleaning before varnish removal, checking for overpainting, filing and so on. I had to fess-up eventually and say I've been watching Baumgartner videos all through the pandemic :)
When I saw the tiny drill bit I actually went "aww", as if it was the cutest thing I'd seen all day and not just a thin piece of metal.
I have a pin drill for drilling holes for jewelry by hand, and the bits for that make his tiny one look huge. Some of the bits are so small that you can barely see the grooves in it. It's adorable.
During the beginning of the "space race" in the late 1950's, early 1960's. The Soviet Union was on top and sent tiny drill examples around the world. Bragging that they had developed and are using the smallest drills in the world. I think it was Finland or perhaps Sweden sent the Soviet drill back to them with a hole drilled through the shank.
“Don’t let perfection be the enemy of good.” I like it, Julian. Makes me stop and rethink things. Thanks for those words.
It's so crazy that this was a common thing! The Speed Art Museum has a similar portrait- but the upper half. I do recall her gown being red, however, so likely not the missing part. You can only tell what it's supposed to be due to a tiny bit of hair peaking out at the bottom!
Yes, just looking through the Heidelberg University site someone else pointed out shows how many have been similarly mangled. If you don't like the actual subject of the painting, why on earth would you keep it at all? One even has a bunch of roses painted over John's head on the platter!
@@VeganAtheistWeirdo this is just disrespectful. With the artist the painting, AND WITH POOR JOHN!
Some people own artworks
They hang on their walls;
Some owners make choices
With chutzpah and gall.
Some viewers may gasp
but all can recall:
*A painting's a painting
No matter how small.*
This was such a lovely Easter egg to find in the comments hahahah
@@marikosiewenie4671 that's very kind! Happy holidays to you
In guitar restoration/repair we use suction cups to "pump" glue into smaller cracks that can't be accessed with a syringe, maybe something to consider for future repairs of a similar nature? I envy you the "clampinator"!! :-)
I came for the conservation, stayed for the clampinator; came back to appreciate Julien’s fantastic haircut
Woodworker here, I didn't look away. I make Dados with just a blade all the time. For 2 dados, it's not worth it, for 50, setup the dado stack.
Also, Protip: Do the hole with the Forsner bit first, then the Dado. No blowout on the bottom :)
i love how you still kept the bloopers
Same
The fact that there is a label on the Clamping Table calling it "THE CLAMPINATOR" sends
Not only have my edges been snatched, they've been chamfered.
“The Beheading of St.John the Baptist” by Caravaggio can be seen in the Oratory of the Co-Cathedral of St.John, In Valletta, Malta. It is truly spectacular.
This painting is gorgeous, but different than the one Julian is working on. That one was by Peter Gertner and the location of the top section is still unknown.
I’m just happy he got to use the contraption he spent so long building again ☺️
I LOVE that Julian started doing intros & being in the videos. This could easily be a netflix or Disney+ series.
I have a copy of "Salome with the Head of Saint John the Baptist" on my wall, it's beautiful, love the way she smiles with the sword and head in her hands
Are you sure it's not Judith and Holofernes? As I remember, Salome didn't cut Saint John's head, she asked her uncle Herod for his head and got it, served on a platter.
not sure what this specific painting is but i saw
“ Lucar Cranach the Elder
or The Feast of Herod”
today in a museum they look almost identical aside from some change to minor detail
Fry: oh, Bender. You didn't touch the Clampinator, did you?
Bender: Of course not. A lady that fine you gotta romance first.
"Give 'em the clamps!"
My favorite painting has a similar story! Herodias by Lucas Cranach the Younger is a painting of Herodias holding the severed head of John the Baptist but the canvas had been cut down to remove him. It was only after it was restored that they noticed the whisps of hair at the bottom of the frame. It’s at the Speed Art Museum in Louisville, KY.
You put the hide glue where the floating horizontal battens will go when spreading the adhesive on the back of the painting at 23:30. There would be 5 spots where it will be glued. Not trying to be confrontational about it but I run a professional woodshop so I just noticed it and have done the same type of thing. I appreciate your videos and commitment to your craft! Thanks!
I noticed this too - glad it wasn't just me.
Noticed that as well.
As a fellow woodworker don't worry about not using a dado blade stack, it is rare for most professional woodworkers to even use a dado stack just to make a single dado. It really only makes sense to use a dado blade if you are running parts in more of a production setup or are making very large dados. In the future if you set your table saw fence to be the stop for one side of your dado & the crosscut sled stop for the other side of the dado you can much more quickly nibble away the waste.
15:36 is the first time I have ever heard an audio mistake on one of his videos. Looks like it got missed. So at least we know he or his editor isnt perfect now lol FYI - HUGE FAN!
I was watching the Olympics Men’s gymnastics team final when the notification for this video came up and nearly turned off the Olympics to watch it. That’s how much I enjoy these videos!!
i love the little mistakes in the va. and how he just leaves them in
Just think, some people in the future will watch this video and just flick straight to the next part! Hey, future viewer! Think about us poor sods who have to wait 7 days!
i waited until the second part was already released specifically for this reason. well worth the wait though!
It's so cool to see how diverse the skills and knowledge you need to have. You'd think at first glance that you only need to know how to paint. But there is so much more to restoration beyond that.
Thanks for sharing your processes and for your calming voice. Even if I can't see what you are doing, your voice is nice to listening to.
when you glued the panel for the cradle, you put glue on the spots where the free floating pieces go too...
Yeah that bothered me too. I thought glueing the perpendicular piece was a no-no, but then he just puts glue underneath?!
I thought the same thing... I wonder if the next part of the video will be "hey remember that thing I said about having to redo the battons..."
I noticed this too, its killing me lol
If he was just using the longer free-floating pieces for alignment and then *slid them out after clamping but before the glue set,* no damage done. He did say something about alignment but I guess we'll have to wait and see about the rest.
Because you're right, if he left them in place and those little swipes of excess glue (or squeeze out from the main battens) secured them in place, that would suck.
Yes, what was the point of only applying glue to the batons running with the grain when he had completely coated the area on the back of the painting? The perpendicular baton will be glued down in that area. Not free floating no more!
Therapy, counselling and restoration. It’s like an oasis in a desert.
Lolol on the ordering frustration! He seems so very careful and perfect most of the time. Do we dream about the possibility of Art-con or would meeting our beloved Baumgartner destroy our image of ... nah, of course not; he is exactly as he seems. Also, a room full of the highly diverse fans here would be fascinating and fun. 💕🐝
"Hey Judith, here's your... wait, where'd the head go?"
I've been watching this channel for about 3 years now and I still love to see each new project that comes up! I've actually been inspired to go into the art world myself (as a curator) because of these videos
Love the 'Clampinator'. Very effective and user friendly.I have no doubt that Adrian has been designing again.
'Don't let perfection be the enemy of good'. I wish I had heard that long ago. Thankyou. I will add that to my dad's teaching 'You can be right or you can be dead right'.
Protecting rainforests AND paintings? You know how to talk to me 💗
I love these longer episodes. They remind me of public access TV channels like PBS 😂
* Nice haircut! *
I just realized why I love your way of just starting to talk to the camera while working: It's just like Reading Rainbow and Bill Nye the Science Guy. Bill Nye would casually talk to you while walking though his lab. LeVar would start talking directly to you as the theme song ended. I didn't realize it until now but, dude... You're giving me nostalgic feelings. 🥺
I remember watching Julian build the clampinator. I'm glad he is using it again because that thing was a beast to build.
You put hide glue on the back of the painting, including where the horizontal free-floating battens touch and after clamp up it appears they were touching that section. I wonder if that will have any affect.
I saw that too. He stayed short of the edge on one side but not the other. Hope he addresses this in the next video.
That’s what I came here to say. I was sure he would pull those battens out after the clamps were in place.
@@thelatinist5024 Exactly. Or, I was expecting a couple of wedges to lift it up.
I think he said in the making-of-the-table video that he had put pastewax or some other coating on the battens, which probably helps prevent the hide glue sticking! plus these are wood and replaceable / re-coatable
just add water to detatch right
For anyone who wants to see the other part of this painting, it's titled "Susanne, electoress of the Pfalz as Salome" by Peter Gertner c. 1495. You can see her green sleeves in this painting. These are gorgeous!!
The Machina Magnifica returns!!! 😉👍🏼👍🏼
I love the whole concept of Wren, whoever came up with this is a genius! Thank you innovators! People who persisted on the journey to bring this concept to life thank you! and thank you Julian for using your platform to educate people on your amazing craft of conservation, I find it interesting every single time!
Conservators in 200 years: Oh thang goodness, there's a Baumgatner label. This one's gonna be easy guys it's ok.
"Well look it up, then. Did he do a video on that one?"
"Looks like... A two-parter."
"Fantastic. Ten bucks on washi-kozo."
I don't know how much fine furniture you've made, but that technique for the cradle is precisely the technique for making breadboard tables.
You can only glue in some places, and you must allow for the movement of the wood.
i'll say it again- if you sold a tote bag or shirt of the super aesthetic clampinator plans it'd look cool as heck (also: 'clampinator' is hilarious)
If that painting wasn’t delivered on a silver platter, I’m gonna be very disappointed.
My only question is why did you use oak, which is full of tannins, rather than, say, maple, which is as strong, but a more inert wood. Thanks for the video. Jon
I can't believe I am actually watching this right now. I saw this painting half a year ago in Prague's National Gallery. You did amazing job Julian! It looked perfect, when I saw it!!
I just really need more people in the comment section to acknowledge and appreciate Julian’s 🔥 haircut
I was waiting for Julian to describe the chamfers as tidy. 😄
Who tf thought that cutting a painting would be ok?😂
Probably some religious nut.
The same kind of people that put a door through Da Vinci's Last Supper
the same people who put fig leaves on Michaelangelo's David (and every other penis they saw in ancient art).
1908 Karen
@@1LittleBlackBox 🤣
loving the new sponsor
Okay so tell me I'm not the only one who thinks Julian is a piece of fine art himself
YES! Day made, even unpacking boxes from the big move.
When you applied the glue to the panel you applied it for the whole height of the panel, but then on the cradle you skipped the bars that span the width in order to bot glue them down, but there already is glue on there. In the way you clamped it, gravitation is pulling the supposed to be free moving width bars down to the panel that has glue on it, in the next video can you make sure they're actually not glued down?
Not only does julien show himself more and more in front of the camera, he now lightly laugh when he says a pun. Incredible.
I truly hope, some how, some way, the bulk of the picture finds its way to you ... would love to see what the original picture looked liked.
A little tip for when using the router, do the end grain first. That way if you get any tear out, it should get cut away when you do the long grain (side/face). Nice work though, as always!
“Clampinator?!”
Surely no
“The Clampgartner”
Ah yes, much better
Somebody give this man a show on PBS already
It's always a good Monday when there's a new video from Julian. And this sponsor is my favorite one yet. In addition to your abundant restoration talents, you're someone who cares about saving the planet.
Another lovely video; I do have a teeny bit of doubt or question. The back of the painting is not flat, and the glue face of the battens are; when you clamp them, it looked a bit like they were exerting a fair amount of stress on the painting. Is that right?
Question, why is the cradle not at the center of the painting or why doesn't it cover the whole size of the painting?
yeah, it bothers me too
Possibly to leave room for a frame or maybe the edges are more fragile and can't take any pressure.
I was wondering the same thing too; I hope he answers that question in the second video.
It doesn't cover the whole size because of how the wood works. You don't want to put pressure at the very edges because that's where the wood is least plyable and least strong, you'll probably make those bits snap off.
I’m guessing it’s because it’s not what you do..
Although not intentional, I love when he leaves little mistakes in the narration. It’s like a peek behind the curtain
The video title deserves to be a heading to a play. And the beautiful restoration deserves a story of itself. 💚
Was anyone else mortified when that piece of wood rolled off the fabric? i panicked for a moment
Hey Julian....I listened to the beginning of this video a few times to make sure I heard you correctly...... and you are mispronouncing the name of the woman who had John the Baptist beheaded. You are calling her Sah--loam but her name is pronounced Sah-low-may. Sorry if a visit from the language police is offensive.....didn't mean any harm. Your channel is my most favourite on CZcams....love your work.
I was going to do the same as you, but saw that you'd already done the job. I don't think you need to apologise for language-policing. It can save someone from embarrassment further down the line to point out an error kindly, as you did.
I'm wondering what the Hebrew pronunciation would be...
Considering Julian is of Jewish origin he just might be familiar with some other variation of the name than the standard English version...
In English, Salome is pronounced “Sa-low-MAY.” In Hebrew, Salome’s original language, her name is pronounced Schlo-mitz or Sa-lome. Before you start being the language police, start by learning how every Jewish name in the Bible (which originally came from the Torah) is pronounced in Hebrew.
I mean this in the most complimentary way possible: this channel reminds me of my childhood watching PBS
This amazing Conservation video series is teaching me a lot. I am, right now, attaching some modern well made lace onto some cheap lace for fashion reasons. My approach now is so so careful, slow, patient and skill full. After watching Julian I am wiser and slower.