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@@rottenhumanremains you havnt been playing nearly long enough. Plus its nothing special. Its more a embarrassment for us. Unless their life is vrchat-_-
they are. Since visitors can't upload anything they only can have public avatars. The simple ones are ok, but if it is too good looking it is a very poor (reduces FPS), and/or often has bad shader-FX, or is cloned from other account which might indicate a crasher-account. But if i see a visitor in a club (friend+) with a green-level-avi i try to talk to, cause such people did something right to get in. If he/she is ok they can be friended.
@@nara4420 theres a very good reason they cant upload anything at that rank. Plus i dont get ppl who treat em like that. Yeah they havnt been playing this degenerate game for 1k+ hours like you have. Give me a break
I remember this one time I joined a rest and sleep world and one of them came up to me immediately and said, 'finally, someone above user' and would only talk to me because we were both trusted. Not nice people to be around
im a Known user rank and any time i go into a lobby only to see these dumbasses who will only talk to me simply because im a high rank i end up blasting them through the entire server and then telling everyone to block them because shitty people dont even deserve to be scene and then i proceed to have nice and fun conversations with all the regular users and visitors because some people like me dont have a shitty god complex.
@@keeperscove8056 This is why I don’t care if I’m a low rank, if I’m not gonna have friends without literally using people with status I don’t give a shit
@@ThBlueSalamander no, the VRC club scene is a sub community of VRChat. just a group of people who enjoy listening to music, dj-ing, dancing, etc. in VRC. there’s a couple well known clubs like Rizumu, DDVR, and Ghost Club that are great places to go.
@@gojovrc i put rizumu and ddvr in a different category then i would put ghost club or shelter and loner. You go to the former if you want to drink and socialize and generally party, but if you want a musical experience, a concert per say. You go to the latter.
@@dinocrackersrl ive been to all of them, and i agree. was just stating the names so if OP was curious they could look em up if they wanted to get into the scene.
The day this system was introduced, the outcome was inevitable. Tragically I end up having Purples avatars turned off usually, since they tend to run models & emotes that effect performance. Far from "Trusted users", but that's fancy badges in a nutshell. Attracts all the smells.
Literally saw a member of a community call out the "standing in front of mirrors" when speaking about an event that was going down in VRC and she caught a shit ton of flack for literally just stating an obvious truth. So the elitisms is very present. And they don't like when you call them out on their BS.
I mean if she's just walking up to a group of people and starts giving them shit for.. sitting and talking? Then I hope she got some flack, why not join in a conversation rather then disrupting a group of people just chilling and talking. I think it's funny the war people want to wage on people that just want to sit and chat, there's a ton of fun stuff to do in vrchat but if people just want to sit in front of a mirror and chat who cares. It's so dumb to me to hate on people because they literally want to sit and talk.
@@piggythepimp No, she caught flack in a discord server. The point is not that its wrong to sit and chat with friends. the point is that the elitism that is a part of the toxic side of VRC is very prevalent in many social circles. We don't hate on mirror dwellers because they really only sit in front of mirrors and act narcissistic, no, its the attitude that comes with it thats hated. Being a shit head in a public world has consequences, and if getting called out on it is one of them, then i guess it too damn bad.
@@sleeve9097 I think its more the narcissism but hey, we don't talk to them because well, they are assholes, plain and simple. It's actually really easy to leave them alone as well, mostly because they are always in front of a mirror. And everything we do does not involve a mirror. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
the thing that scares me about them is that they r new so there is no guarantee they will keep playing :( they could just come on once or twice then move on with their life and i will be sad that i lost my friend .. it has happened a lot :(
I've never seen anyone be a VRChat be an elitist, but I personally care about the ranking system for one reason only: I've been a new user for the last year and I just want to be able to publish worlds. That's it, that's all.
@@JackieJKENVtuber it only applies if you login through Oculus or Steam, if you already log in through a separate VRC account you shouldn't need to do anything
@@Atherta I'm logging in through my VRC account, but I linked it with my Steam account already I am pretty sure I did not link it to my Oculus account, so I'll try that
I haven't been on VRchat very long. However, I am getting a "blue checkmark of twitter" kinda vibe. It takes forever to get it (if you even can). Once you do, it doesn't really allot you much except bragging rights and an ego booster (how long that lasts and how powerful is up to you). Then you are seen differently by the community just because you have something fancy tied to your name. If anything, people with the marks are resented more for having it than not, because they have the tendency to be such dickheads. Thing is about stereotypes, they are usually based upon fact.
i have never seen anyone bragging about being trusted and i have played over 2 years and most of my friends are trusted because all of us uploads avatars and has crazy amount hours in the game. only time when i have ever heard people mention it if they just got it and then never again lol
Yeah, if you upload content or add a lot of people as friends, you can get to trusted pretty fast. I have one friend that got there in like a week. I personally only disable the avatars of visitor ranked players because the people that troll and the majority of people that use crasher avatars are of those ranks. If their avatars are hidden, I don't have to worry about world override effects, noise, or being crashed randomly in public instances where they might appear. And if someone is there just to hang out, I'll usually show their avatar if I have the system resources to do so.
Fun fact about vrchat. The old rank called legendary rank was available in beta test in late 2016, in 2017 and in 2018. It was for avatar and world makers, streamers and vrchat content creators. This rank was officially removed from VRC in late 2018
I love meeting visitors and new users in vrc as it's very exciting learning about their view on thing in the game and seeing things from a fresh perspective of course there will always be some bad experiences but i will never block them unless they done something really bad and that is true no mater the rank.
My only real knowledge of vrchat is one roleplay series because a CZcamsr got me into it. Gonna be an interesting experience if i ever play the actual game off of trying to get in it lol
This is just the same drama that I've seen for the last 16 years with online games that attract people like this. Sadly it almost feels nostalgic. It's why I usually don't play online games as much anymore. When I load up VRChat it's either to look at random worlds by myself or with a friend.
I see, thanks for the informative video brother!^^ Have just started playing vrchat and have yet to play it on my quest 2. So far I've only played on desktop with friends and have noticed that many people ignore us because we don't play with a vr headset, it's probably the rank too but one person legit just said "don't let them into the room, they're on desktop". But it is what it is, have had some really entertaining moments in vrchat either way!
I put 600 hours into vrchat on desktop mode, and while I didn't get flack for it a lot from vr, it did help that I had a nice friend group who don't mind it
I barely played VR Chat cause I'm a college student, but yeah... I have a Quest 2 with gaming laptop and I play in both VR and desktop mode. While my Quest 2 is charging I'd play in Desktop mode. Since I am getting used to VR, I often get motion sickness so it's nice playing in Desktop mode.
as a trusted user i try to avoid public lobbies, not cuz i care about ranks lmao, i would happly show a first timer around vrchat and how it works i feel like that would be lots of fun but ive grown tired of squeekers and just overall annoying ppl as ive spent hours on hours in vrchat lmao. i actually myself am scared of trusted users for the reasons you just stated because they carry themselves with an aura or superiority that you can smell upon joining the lobby TT
funny thing is they also the type of ppl to put "don't be afraid to say hi" or "always open to make new friends" in their bio, but the moment you actually try to say hi you either get ignored or very little engagement outside of a wave or head nod.
Great content! I played VRChat back in late 2017 and 2018 on desktop then left . Came back 4 months ago with VR. Suddenly noticed the behavior changes specifically in my fellow countrymen. They would ignore you if youre not high ranked enough or not part of their group and if youre on VR they will vanish right infront of you. Because most Filipinos cant afford VR they may have felt overwhelemd even tho im very friendly and doesnt care about Ranks or if youre on Desktop. Some filipinos are kind of toxic, if they feel youre higher than them, they will go away from you, if they feel youre lower than them, they will ignore you or look down upon you. I never knew VRchat turned into this compared to back then. I feel sad about it.
honestly same, with what you said, I’m kinda second guessing trying out vrchat it sucks too cause I know there ARE good people and communities, just way too outnumbered by shitty people to make it worth the time and effort
As a side note. There is/was a rank above Trusted User called "Veteran", however since it didnt really serve much of a purpose it was removed. However the tag can still be seen on the API for people who already were at the Veteran level before it was removed.
There's also the Legendary tag as well. From what I recall hearing it was when they were initially testing out the system and anybody that was on around that certain point got it
A user (I don't even know their rank cause I wasn't even paying attention to that shit at all until they said something) was bullying and mocking and following another user. When the user they had been taunting and following around tried to report them. they laughed and said "ha! you can't report me cause you're just a visitor!" That was my first experience with this bullshit.
not really, its more like comitment to the game or something like that. i published a world and was trusted almost right after. so i went from visitor to user in about 30 hours and from user to trusted in less than 15
If you're a cute avatar that does cute things, you tend to get a lot more leeway with higher ranks then normal avatars. This is coming from experience. For example, I have an avatar that has two pseudo ears on their head. They're very springy, getting head pats makes them wiggle and move around. Lots of people cant resist the urge to keep head patting.
First off, damn man i love your videos! Just came across ur channel in my recommended and here i am binge watching ur vids. Secondly, i'm exactly what you described as a trusted user, and over the months/years i've played i've become quite trigger happy when it comes to the block button. I love chilling in public instances because that's the only way to meet new people. I often hang out with my friends or girlfriend and here and there someone new joins the conversation and we get to meet some cool people. The problem arises when there is visitors or new users that are just straight up being annoying as hell, screaming in the mic, getting in your face, blasting awful music... Without a second of hesitation i open my menu and block these people.. am i a vrchat elitist now or is my response to these people understandable?
Thanks for watching my videos! I think the answer is fairly easy. That’s why I made sure to acknowledge that not all Trusted Users are like the ones I described in the video. There’s nothing wrong with blocking a person who is trying to annoy everyone purposefully.
@@beep3589 Totally agree with you, i have definitely met some cool people that aren't known or trusted. The sad truth tho is that most visitors and new users are either on desktop or quest and are therefore trolls or little children that shouldn't be on vrc. Actually, saturday night i was chilling with a few friends, having a couple of drinks. I tried talking to a trusted that had the same avatar as me. I jokingly said that he should finally stop copying me and whatnot. His reaction was incredibly rude and he threatened to block me right away. That's the type of trusted users you just don't want to hang around with but i've honestly met more cool full body trusted users than i've met visitors or new users. Maybe it really depends on the time and place you go when looking to meet new friends.
@@Liicch I don't know about that whole, truth, I'm a new user on Quest 2 (previously Rift S), and I'm not a little child or any sort of troll. I'd say it's fair to know that a good portion are, but it's certainly not everybody from what I've seen. Those assumptions just aren't _entirely_ true. I know it's been 3 months but I think that might be useful.
Honestly the beauty of VRChat's social ranking system is that not only does it help with toxicity by hiding most malicious players as mentioned, but the kind of people who are in the upper echelon of ranks that simply block people of lower ranks, you don't lose anything by them blocking you. Worst case scenario, you'll just be awkwardly talking to an avatar you don't realize has you blocked for a little while. That's it. It's not like you're losing a valuable friendship or anything if someone wants to be entitled like that and block you. They're someone not socializing with anyways. Honestly, them blocking you is practically a favor.
My friends group and I are mainly known or trusted users, but we're super chill and friendly and talk to everyone that's not acting like a dickbag. We're constantly meeting and adding newer users to our friends group. Most known or trusted users I met early on were super nice. Heck on my third day playing I had a trusted user tell me she was taking me on a tour of hidden gems and just start dropping portals. Found some of my favorite worlds that way, and I now have a tendency to do the same to visitors and new users if they are pretty chill.
"There's nothing more prestigious than being a trusted user in vrchat" I feel like everyone forgets about the veteran rank or legendary which is actually the highest rank and is rarely seen. Mainly because you can't get it anymore.
You actually can still get Veteran, just only people with mods can see it. Legendary is actually the highest rank. However, you can't get that anymore since you have to have uploaded content pre 2019
@@boo3427 Legendary isn't a rank even, it's an additional flag on top of rank. And it wasn't even uploaded, just logged on. There's actually a steam account with legendary, in addition to a few New Users and such. It was anyone that logged in on a specific couple days.
@@Cloverpotato I mean that's essentially a rank, the api returns a distinct value for if they're between visitor and legendary. It wouldn't make sense to return both trusted and a bit for legendary, no it's stored in the api as them being that rank
Officially the highest-ranking is Trusted User. But when we duck deeper, the highest user is Legend User, After Trusted user came veteran, Legend, vrchat Team. And the highest is VrChat.
As someone who recently became a New User, honestly, I never got harassed for being a Visitor. I just made some friends and had a blast playing Blackout.
Honestly when I got to the part for what you get for being trusted? I was instantly like quietly~ avoided. . . fr tho sometimes being trusted ain't the greatest thing in vrchat but new people really do come up to you :) = new friends yay
It's always a bit of a double edged sword. On one hand I can totally understand, especially with griefers and the massive waves of little kids, it must get super annoying having to block/mute/get crashed sometimes very regularly on public worlds. On the other hand it hampers newer players who are just genuine people trying out the game and encourages elitism. I'm ranked user currently so it's a mixed bag weather people wanna talk or not, but if I get blocked for just existing I feel I'm better off not knowing that person anyways lol. What's interesting is you get the same flack for being a quest user and to some extent desktop. Since quest users are associated with the enormous wave of screaming kids I certainly understand where its coming from but it's a shame none the less. Now, I have a quest 2, I also have a pc and a fairly decent tracking setup, just so happens I use my quest as my hmd because it seems overkill to buy a second headset. I play vrc mostly in pcvr, but sometimes standalone on quest cause it's nice not being tethered to a wire, and desktop cause its less physical or my eyes need a break. (In pcvr, no one knows I'm wearing a quest) I've experimented a bit, the diferent reactions I get in public based on if I'm playing quest standalone, desktop and full vr are also similar to those seen between low/high user rank. So I go public lobbies as a quest standalone, you get a lot of flack from more trusted vr users, similar to how you do as a new user. Desktop too, but not as bad. Full vr/body tracking? Very few of these problems. Its interesting to see how the exact same person is reacted to differently, sometimes by the exact same people. I've even gone in as a quest user, gotten flack, hopped onto my pcvr setup to an awkward "oh my bad" and suddenly people wanna talk lol (suffice to say, I didn't make friends with them in this case, but they helped prove my experiment). I suppose the idea is if someone's invested that much, they probably take it more seriously or at least aren't gonna scream and grief, which is probably true to some extent but it's a shame how you get judged for it as a decent normal person. I just don't buy into the attitude, and avoid people who do too heavily, eventually you get to know decent people (of which there are many) and have a friend group you can expand from there, but it's certainly harsh on decent folk who are just starting up, especially if you're both new and on a quest. Believe me, I tried that at first and it's quite difficult to start with and being fairly shy on top didn't help. Jumping in on pcvr helped a LOT in the beginning. Again, I think its a shame it's like that, but it's true to some extent. Just hop worlds til you find some cool people, chat and add them up, you'll get a good group going pretty fast - or find a discord community you click with.
When I was in a world and made some friends, they had convos about me being trusted as I was confused and looked on my profile by surprise that I reached Trusted the same day I also said I would need a lot more hours before getting the rank. What I honestly think of the rank is that it makes me proud being on this game for long enough that I made my own avatars, met alot of people and just overall had fun visiting worlds and being able to talk to other people. VRChat gave me some adventures so far and still is going to and I love playing the game, because it helps me manage my anxiety and become more talkative towards others. It also makes me comfortable to let other people know by seeing my rank that I'm not new here and it makes it easier for them to understand that I'm not just a troller or someone who wants to give out negative vibes.
Its understandable why trusted user would hide lower rank avatars, or mute, Some of the reasons are crashers and also not to mention ear rapes by screamers with vacuum mic players aka sound of an airplane,n loud bad static voice changers 😂...i normally hop between private world most of the time but if i feel talkative i might harvest some new friends in public world lol 😂anyhow awesome vid! Nicely done!
Crashers are a problem, but I’ve only seen 2 people below Known User rank with Crasher avatars. Everyone else has been either Known or Trusted (I’m a Known User, and have run into hundreds of crashers total)
Known and trusted also have the power to start a vote kick so if you look at them wrong or have a too low rank then they can kick you from the lobby this has happened to me soo many times
Honestly the only time i block people is if they say something a lot of really bad things or just constantly harass me or my friends and even then it still takes a lot, i tend to make lower rank friends cause they are mostly chill and ive helped some of my newer friends go from visitor to user by having my higher ranked friends around as well
I just wanted to add to this already informative video, there used to be two additional ranks following trusted which were the veteran & legendary ranks. These still exist, but are only visible via additional mods/clients and are still applied regardless of whether you can see above the trusted rank or not. Pretty much meaningless after the trusted rank, but I know plenty of content creators who’ve uploaded hundreds of avatars and or worlds for the virtual “clout” that comes along with the rank lol
Legendary isn't actually a rank like people thought it was, it's just an additional tag that was given to everybody who logged in during a short window in the summer of 2018. Somebody actually found a New User with the Legendary tag
My fellow vietnamese man. Bruv, I got no idea how to hang out with my pals anymore. We've been around for so damn long that we've gotten either legendary rank or veteran. And most of them have reached that final stage, the egirl/goth girl stage or eboy/goth boy stage where they hang around at mirrors. All the used to be memers are now just mirror hogs. I ended up creating two alts and they're already at known, like... Fuck... Meeting users and even visitors is a breath of fresh air. They don't know shit, so you can show them around and talk. Instead of chilling in front of the mirror as a monke while your friends are basically erp-ing.
For me (as a user), the worst people I meet are always trusted users. Visitors can be bad, but trolls are easily muted, hidden, and get bored quickly. It's the trusted users that think they are somehow better than you, and have the crashing avatars for if they don't like you. Obviously not all are bad, just as much as not all visitors and quest users are bad, but I generally have better luck with new users and users than anyone else. Trusted users also seem to almost always have such horrifically optimised avatars. I've had it before that 1 dude alone dropped my frame rate by 20fps. I use custom safety settings with features turned down on trusted users specifically because of it. I usually point it out to people and ask them to consider something a bit better, but usually get responce of something like "lol, get a better PC". Bitch, I have a RTX 3090 and a 5GHz i9, if I'm having bad frame rate, there's a problem.
That's wild! Can't imagine a game with bad frame rates and yet having a beefy PC. Then again there's lots of avatars with high details in VR Chat that easily slows the game down.
this game could be improved but a cult with social hierarchy ruined every progress they can have. i had hopes for this game when it just started but i guess they want to become like Second Life
Not gonna lie, I automatically block anyone with the visitor rank because the visitors are always the ones with the most toxicness and most frequently toxic
I'm a known user, I find it easier to make friends with visitors and users as they don't typically have friend groups yet. It's harder to join a friend group with trusted users when people have known eachother for so long. Just feels like you don't belong sometimes.
I finally got Trusted Rank, but when I finally got it it was right when I found out about Neos, which I’ve switched to and haven’t used it since so I didn’t really get to use it at all.
Personally, the only the thing that the “new user” rank means to me, is that the person has a bigger social life on that game than they do in real life.
you can get to trusted user in under a week. literally all u need to do it upload a couple blank avatars and words. and buy vrc + and you basically get to trusted instantly.
I'm also a trusted user and I sometimes block other Trusted users, when ever I'm in public I always hide my rank just so I don't accidently be friends with them not knowing there true colors.
One thing that i heard often is that u get trusted user quicker with a vr chat account than with a steam account or oculus account, idk if that's just the average but I for example spent 200+ hours in vrc with a steam account and am currently rank user, my friend with a vr chat account spent 180 hours and is known user Edit : at 410 hours i got known user, and at this point, I understand why trusted users are so quick to block people, at some point you probably got a group of friends that don't have a life just like you, and u always hang out in private instances with them, and when u then get into a public instance, it just feels like a hell of uncontrollable chaos, and the risk of being crashed, aand of course the way to high amount of rec room squeakers that now also occur in vrchat
To be completely honest, I hold a grudge against trusted users, because every one I’ve met has either been a crasher, an asshole towards all newbies, and a spam reporter and kicker.
I hate those people. They think a random sequence of 0s and 1s means Person A (anyone below Known User) is a child with a garbage mic and a crasher avatar, and Person B (Known User and above) is the only other person that exists. In reality, I’ve seen far more crashers in the hands of Known and Trusted Users than anyone else, and a few have even tried to use them on me because I was a lower rank. I’m a Known User now, and unfortunately, I’ve seen several players of the Visitor or New User ranks straight up avoid me (I’m a pretty friendly guy, even if I keep to myself most of the time). I would toggle the setting to appear as just an ordinary User rank, but then I run into elitists who think I’m beneath them.
When I was playing in one world I didn't know that these were elitists but they just looked over and said "ugh two visitors" and I didn't even know what the rankings were lol
bruh im trusted with full body tracking and over 2k hours, and tbh all i do is play among us these days lmao, alot of my newer friends are actually visitors or new users who are just trying out the game.
The only time I worried about the rank system was the day I installed VRChat and wanted to upload my own avatar, I dumped $10 into the game which guartentees you a single rank-up and then I was done and could upload avatars same day. I mostly forgot about it afterwards but at some point reached trusted pretty quick, like 200 hours in I think. Unfortunately, I had more than one situation where people asked how many hours I had put in, I'd say, idk, like 200 or 300. Then they would get upset at me and begin causing a scene and it was because I had trusted. Apparently, it used to take you well over a thousand hours to get trusted so it was greatly offensive that I got it in far less time they either blamed vrchat or blamed that fact I had VRChat plus even though VRChat plus only gives you 1 rankup, it's not like you can pay to get that rank. idk, i found the whole thing dumb, the rank system is crap and failed to achieve it's goal, trusted users can be just as untrusted as lower rank users, all it does is add elitism and extra problems. But I'm more aware of my rank because occasionally I'll run into people that throw drama over it.
I hate being a trusted user. People automatically assume I’m a jerk, and attack me for it. Some trusted users are obnoxious. A good amount of them are nice.
i recently lost my old account and it was a trusted user, i lost all my avatars, even some my old friends made for me and now im stuck at visitor cos i only ever hang out with the same groups of people so..
As much as I would love to argue with many of you, your right a nickname for trusted user is untrusted user, and most have clients. Still many are great people if you get to know them or find ones in worlds like werewolf when games are happening.
so i have almost 100 hours and 51 friends in vrchat and im still a new user. i merged accounts even and im pretty sure i should be at least to user rank. is this normal?
I have a total of 1k or even 2k hours on this game and i didn't even notice when i got this rank. Now, i'm not the kind of guy that goes "eeeww a visitor! Get outta me game!" but i'd like to give a lil' push to new players... One thing that i hate is that 90% of these visitors are kids with Quest that think they're somehow superior, and that's why i stopped hanging around in public lobbies (and if i do, i'm forced to block 80% of the players because they're all this kind of kid). Better not getting me started on trusted users who use crashers/clients/etc., because i'd have a real lot o' things to say
I hit trusted at 150 hours and for some reason despite never mirror dwelling before I'm now at rest and sleep looking at a mirror most of the time lmao [perhaps I was subconsciously on that friend grind in other public worlds and now that I'm trusted I don't have to anymore lol].
As a trusted user, I honestly forget that I am trusted user and only ever remember when someone brings it up to me... I do like that my username is purple though since it's my favorite color..... wait... no it's not. CURSE YOU VRCHAT TAKING AWAY ALL THAT IS GOOD! Jokes aside, I just don't go to public lobbies often because there's too many friends I want to hangout to go there. I also like things to be rather quiet. Public lobbies can be quiet, but they often are not.
I have a dream, that visitors won't be judged by their rank, but by the content of their avatar.
If they are a brush its time to die
i actually can’t get the purple rank idk why im still a visitor so im kinda sad when people ignore me or don’t see me lol
@@rottenhumanremains you havnt been playing nearly long enough. Plus its nothing special. Its more a embarrassment for us. Unless their life is vrchat-_-
they are. Since visitors can't upload anything they only can have public avatars. The simple ones are ok, but if it is too good looking it is a very poor (reduces FPS), and/or often has bad shader-FX, or is cloned from other account which might indicate a crasher-account.
But if i see a visitor in a club (friend+) with a green-level-avi i try to talk to, cause such people did something right to get in. If he/she is ok they can be friended.
@@nara4420 theres a very good reason they cant upload anything at that rank. Plus i dont get ppl who treat em like that.
Yeah they havnt been playing this degenerate game for 1k+ hours like you have. Give me a break
I remember this one time I joined a rest and sleep world and one of them came up to me immediately and said, 'finally, someone above user' and would only talk to me because we were both trusted. Not nice people to be around
You can hide your trusted status
I swear every game has those people
Some people latch on to any sort of superiority they can.
im a Known user rank and any time i go into a lobby only to see these dumbasses who will only talk to me simply because im a high rank i end up blasting them through the entire server and then telling everyone to block them because shitty people dont even deserve to be scene and then i proceed to have nice and fun conversations with all the regular users and visitors because some people like me dont have a shitty god complex.
@@keeperscove8056
This is why I don’t care if I’m a low rank, if I’m not gonna have friends without literally using people with status I don’t give a shit
The VRC club scene has a ton of cool people that don't just stare at mirrors. If you haven't seen it it's 100% worth checking out.
I've been to so many clubs yea it's a great time
Is that a map?
@@ThBlueSalamander no, the VRC club scene is a sub community of VRChat. just a group of people who enjoy listening to music, dj-ing, dancing, etc. in VRC. there’s a couple well known clubs like Rizumu, DDVR, and Ghost Club that are great places to go.
@@gojovrc i put rizumu and ddvr in a different category then i would put ghost club or shelter and loner. You go to the former if you want to drink and socialize and generally party, but if you want a musical experience, a concert per say. You go to the latter.
@@dinocrackersrl ive been to all of them, and i agree. was just stating the names so if OP was curious they could look em up if they wanted to get into the scene.
The day this system was introduced, the outcome was inevitable.
Tragically I end up having Purples avatars turned off usually, since they tend to run models & emotes that effect performance.
Far from "Trusted users", but that's fancy badges in a nutshell.
Attracts all the smells.
ye, i am now kinda glad they hid the rank a bit more now tbh
Literally saw a member of a community call out the "standing in front of mirrors" when speaking about an event that was going down in VRC and she caught a shit ton of flack for literally just stating an obvious truth. So the elitisms is very present. And they don't like when you call them out on their BS.
I mean if she's just walking up to a group of people and starts giving them shit for.. sitting and talking? Then I hope she got some flack, why not join in a conversation rather then disrupting a group of people just chilling and talking. I think it's funny the war people want to wage on people that just want to sit and chat, there's a ton of fun stuff to do in vrchat but if people just want to sit in front of a mirror and chat who cares. It's so dumb to me to hate on people because they literally want to sit and talk.
@@piggythepimp No, she caught flack in a discord server. The point is not that its wrong to sit and chat with friends. the point is that the elitism that is a part of the toxic side of VRC is very prevalent in many social circles. We don't hate on mirror dwellers because they really only sit in front of mirrors and act narcissistic, no, its the attitude that comes with it thats hated. Being a shit head in a public world has consequences, and if getting called out on it is one of them, then i guess it too damn bad.
@@tranquilthecat3417 maybe the have an attitude because you’re bothering them. just leave them alone bruh
@@sleeve9097 I think its more the narcissism but hey, we don't talk to them because well, they are assholes, plain and simple. It's actually really easy to leave them alone as well, mostly because they are always in front of a mirror. And everything we do does not involve a mirror. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
@@tranquilthecat3417 yeesh who hurt you bro? I do both and have friends who do both and they are all lovely people
I always find it funny that in a world where you're free to do whatever you want. There's always a hierarchy put in place.
visitors and new users are usually my favorite types of players, theyre here for friends most of the time
the thing that scares me about them is that they r new so there is no guarantee they will keep playing :( they could just come on once or twice then move on with their life and i will be sad that i lost my friend .. it has happened a lot :(
I've never seen anyone be a VRChat be an elitist, but I personally care about the ranking system for one reason only: I've been a new user for the last year and I just want to be able to publish worlds. That's it, that's all.
Have you linked your steam / oculus account? That should fix it if you haven't
@@Atherta aye.... I don't like my oculus account, but if it works, I'll do it then
I was stuck at visitor for 40 hours and as soon as I linked I jumped to new user
@@JackieJKENVtuber it only applies if you login through Oculus or Steam, if you already log in through a separate VRC account you shouldn't need to do anything
@@Atherta I'm logging in through my VRC account, but I linked it with my Steam account already
I am pretty sure I did not link it to my Oculus account, so I'll try that
I haven't been on VRchat very long. However, I am getting a "blue checkmark of twitter" kinda vibe. It takes forever to get it (if you even can). Once you do, it doesn't really allot you much except bragging rights and an ego booster (how long that lasts and how powerful is up to you). Then you are seen differently by the community just because you have something fancy tied to your name. If anything, people with the marks are resented more for having it than not, because they have the tendency to be such dickheads.
Thing is about stereotypes, they are usually based upon fact.
i have never seen anyone bragging about being trusted and i have played over 2 years and most of my friends are trusted because all of us uploads avatars and has crazy amount hours in the game. only time when i have ever heard people mention it if they just got it and then never again lol
Yeah, if you upload content or add a lot of people as friends, you can get to trusted pretty fast. I have one friend that got there in like a week. I personally only disable the avatars of visitor ranked players because the people that troll and the majority of people that use crasher avatars are of those ranks. If their avatars are hidden, I don't have to worry about world override effects, noise, or being crashed randomly in public instances where they might appear. And if someone is there just to hang out, I'll usually show their avatar if I have the system resources to do so.
I have honestly never thought a single thing about a trust level except to make fun of someone for getting it in like, a week.
Fun fact about vrchat. The old rank called legendary rank was available in beta test in late 2016, in 2017 and in 2018. It was for avatar and world makers, streamers and vrchat content creators. This rank was officially removed from VRC in late 2018
I love meeting visitors and new users in vrc as it's very exciting learning about their view on thing in the game and seeing things from a fresh perspective of course there will always be some bad experiences but i will never block them unless they done something really bad and that is true no mater the rank.
My only real knowledge of vrchat is one roleplay series because a CZcamsr got me into it. Gonna be an interesting experience if i ever play the actual game off of trying to get in it lol
This is just the same drama that I've seen for the last 16 years with online games that attract people like this. Sadly it almost feels nostalgic. It's why I usually don't play online games as much anymore. When I load up VRChat it's either to look at random worlds by myself or with a friend.
I've been solo surfing through Community Labs worlds... it's an awesome feeling
As an extreme introvert this hits hard
Yeah this stuff is exactly why I am an introvert
I see, thanks for the informative video brother!^^ Have just started playing vrchat and have yet to play it on my quest 2. So far I've only played on desktop with friends and have noticed that many people ignore us because we don't play with a vr headset, it's probably the rank too but one person legit just said "don't let them into the room, they're on desktop". But it is what it is, have had some really entertaining moments in vrchat either way!
They’re afraid because you might be more interesting and fun than them
@@TwiceVR 💀❤
I put 600 hours into vrchat on desktop mode, and while I didn't get flack for it a lot from vr, it did help that I had a nice friend group who don't mind it
I barely played VR Chat cause I'm a college student, but yeah... I have a Quest 2 with gaming laptop and I play in both VR and desktop mode. While my Quest 2 is charging I'd play in Desktop mode. Since I am getting used to VR, I often get motion sickness so it's nice playing in Desktop mode.
as a trusted user i try to avoid public lobbies, not cuz i care about ranks lmao, i would happly show a first timer around vrchat and how it works i feel like that would be lots of fun but ive grown tired of squeekers and just overall annoying ppl as ive spent hours on hours in vrchat lmao. i actually myself am scared of trusted users for the reasons you just stated because they carry themselves with an aura or superiority that you can smell upon joining the lobby TT
funny thing is they also the type of ppl to put "don't be afraid to say hi" or "always open to make new friends" in their bio, but the moment you actually try to say hi you either get ignored or very little engagement outside of a wave or head nod.
Great content! I played VRChat back in late 2017 and 2018 on desktop then left . Came back 4 months ago with VR. Suddenly noticed the behavior changes specifically in my fellow countrymen. They would ignore you if youre not high ranked enough or not part of their group and if youre on VR they will vanish right infront of you. Because most Filipinos cant afford VR they may have felt overwhelemd even tho im very friendly and doesnt care about Ranks or if youre on Desktop. Some filipinos are kind of toxic, if they feel youre higher than them, they will go away from you, if they feel youre lower than them, they will ignore you or look down upon you. I never knew VRchat turned into this compared to back then. I feel sad about it.
@@Quayledant Ohh thats sad to hear. I do hope the ones who struggled to buy was satisfied by their decision.
honestly same, with what you said, I’m kinda second guessing trying out vrchat
it sucks too cause I know there ARE good people and communities, just way too outnumbered by shitty people to make it worth the time and effort
As a side note. There is/was a rank above Trusted User called "Veteran", however since it didnt really serve much of a purpose it was removed. However the tag can still be seen on the API for people who already were at the Veteran level before it was removed.
There's also the Legendary tag as well.
From what I recall hearing it was when they were initially testing out the system and anybody that was on around that certain point got it
Okay love how the Known User is the weird little brother of the Trusted User….
*cries in being a known user for a year*
Back when I was a visitor someone said to me "shut up you're just a visitor"
oof i got that as well, just toxic a. f.
Best thing is to just let them be or probably tell them your opinion if your good at talking xD
A user (I don't even know their rank cause I wasn't even paying attention to that shit at all until they said something) was bullying and mocking and following another user. When the user they had been taunting and following around tried to report them. they laughed and said "ha! you can't report me cause you're just a visitor!" That was my first experience with this bullshit.
I didn't fully understand how the rank system worked. So knowing it's just time in game is nice.
not really, its more like comitment to the game or something like that. i published a world and was trusted almost right after. so i went from visitor to user in about 30 hours and from user to trusted in less than 15
If you're a cute avatar that does cute things, you tend to get a lot more leeway with higher ranks then normal avatars. This is coming from experience. For example, I have an avatar that has two pseudo ears on their head. They're very springy, getting head pats makes them wiggle and move around. Lots of people cant resist the urge to keep head patting.
"I will kill you."
*pleasant Mario Galaxy music*
Your content is underrated 😃like this is some quality content bro😅
Trrrrrue
onggg
keep hearing Super Mario Galaxy ost on your intros, man has some fine taste 👏
First off, damn man i love your videos! Just came across ur channel in my recommended and here i am binge watching ur vids.
Secondly, i'm exactly what you described as a trusted user, and over the months/years i've played i've become quite trigger happy when it comes to the block button. I love chilling in public instances because that's the only way to meet new people. I often hang out with my friends or girlfriend and here and there someone new joins the conversation and we get to meet some cool people. The problem arises when there is visitors or new users that are just straight up being annoying as hell, screaming in the mic, getting in your face, blasting awful music... Without a second of hesitation i open my menu and block these people.. am i a vrchat elitist now or is my response to these people understandable?
Thanks for watching my videos! I think the answer is fairly easy. That’s why I made sure to acknowledge that not all Trusted Users are like the ones I described in the video. There’s nothing wrong with blocking a person who is trying to annoy everyone purposefully.
@@beep3589 Totally agree with you, i have definitely met some cool people that aren't known or trusted. The sad truth tho is that most visitors and new users are either on desktop or quest and are therefore trolls or little children that shouldn't be on vrc.
Actually, saturday night i was chilling with a few friends, having a couple of drinks. I tried talking to a trusted that had the same avatar as me. I jokingly said that he should finally stop copying me and whatnot. His reaction was incredibly rude and he threatened to block me right away. That's the type of trusted users you just don't want to hang around with but i've honestly met more cool full body trusted users than i've met visitors or new users. Maybe it really depends on the time and place you go when looking to meet new friends.
@@Liicch I don't know about that whole, truth, I'm a new user on Quest 2 (previously Rift S), and I'm not a little child or any sort of troll. I'd say it's fair to know that a good portion are, but it's certainly not everybody from what I've seen. Those assumptions just aren't _entirely_ true. I know it's been 3 months but I think that might be useful.
@@Liicch Now that does sound pretty elitist.
you know that's not being an elitist.
People think trusted is a chad... but the real chad is a hidden chad; veteran and legendary users
It’s the difference between having a life or not, I had played the game for over 2-4 months and still had visitor.
my worst experience was in a black cats world
where every single person was a trusted users and a pc user and i was just a user on the quest
The quote "It doesn't matter whats below the hood, but whos behind the wheel" Fits purrfectly on this video.
Honestly the beauty of VRChat's social ranking system is that not only does it help with toxicity by hiding most malicious players as mentioned, but the kind of people who are in the upper echelon of ranks that simply block people of lower ranks, you don't lose anything by them blocking you. Worst case scenario, you'll just be awkwardly talking to an avatar you don't realize has you blocked for a little while. That's it. It's not like you're losing a valuable friendship or anything if someone wants to be entitled like that and block you. They're someone not socializing with anyways. Honestly, them blocking you is practically a favor.
“Oh shit first try” lemme try this” “ah wtf”💀
My friends group and I are mainly known or trusted users, but we're super chill and friendly and talk to everyone that's not acting like a dickbag. We're constantly meeting and adding newer users to our friends group. Most known or trusted users I met early on were super nice. Heck on my third day playing I had a trusted user tell me she was taking me on a tour of hidden gems and just start dropping portals. Found some of my favorite worlds that way, and I now have a tendency to do the same to visitors and new users if they are pretty chill.
The funny thing is that as a trusted user I set the trusted user safety settings to "hide avatar" as this helps a lot with fps.
"There's nothing more prestigious than being a trusted user in vrchat" I feel like everyone forgets about the veteran rank or legendary which is actually the highest rank and is rarely seen. Mainly because you can't get it anymore.
You actually can still get Veteran, just only people with mods can see it. Legendary is actually the highest rank. However, you can't get that anymore since you have to have uploaded content pre 2019
@@boo3427 Legendary isn't a rank even, it's an additional flag on top of rank. And it wasn't even uploaded, just logged on. There's actually a steam account with legendary, in addition to a few New Users and such. It was anyone that logged in on a specific couple days.
@@Cloverpotato I mean that's essentially a rank, the api returns a distinct value for if they're between visitor and legendary. It wouldn't make sense to return both trusted and a bit for legendary, no it's stored in the api as them being that rank
Legendary is the highest, then veteran, then trusted..
Officially the highest-ranking is Trusted User.
But when we duck deeper,
the highest user is Legend User,
After Trusted user came veteran, Legend, vrchat Team. And the highest is VrChat.
My philosophy is, unless you are annoying for self-amusement, I'm cool with whoever I run into.
“Trusted is the highest rank”
Legendary rank:
As someone who recently became a New User, honestly, I never got harassed for being a Visitor. I just made some friends and had a blast playing Blackout.
Honestly when I got to the part for what you get for being trusted? I was instantly like quietly~ avoided. . .
fr tho sometimes being trusted ain't the greatest thing in vrchat but new people really do come up to you :) = new friends yay
LMaoo the editing man😂😂
I just became trusted user 3 days ago and honestly, I don’t feel superior at all.
It's always a bit of a double edged sword. On one hand I can totally understand, especially with griefers and the massive waves of little kids, it must get super annoying having to block/mute/get crashed sometimes very regularly on public worlds.
On the other hand it hampers newer players who are just genuine people trying out the game and encourages elitism.
I'm ranked user currently so it's a mixed bag weather people wanna talk or not, but if I get blocked for just existing I feel I'm better off not knowing that person anyways lol.
What's interesting is you get the same flack for being a quest user and to some extent desktop. Since quest users are associated with the enormous wave of screaming kids I certainly understand where its coming from but it's a shame none the less.
Now, I have a quest 2, I also have a pc and a fairly decent tracking setup, just so happens I use my quest as my hmd because it seems overkill to buy a second headset. I play vrc mostly in pcvr, but sometimes standalone on quest cause it's nice not being tethered to a wire, and desktop cause its less physical or my eyes need a break. (In pcvr, no one knows I'm wearing a quest)
I've experimented a bit, the diferent reactions I get in public based on if I'm playing quest standalone, desktop and full vr are also similar to those seen between low/high user rank.
So I go public lobbies as a quest standalone, you get a lot of flack from more trusted vr users, similar to how you do as a new user. Desktop too, but not as bad. Full vr/body tracking? Very few of these problems.
Its interesting to see how the exact same person is reacted to differently, sometimes by the exact same people. I've even gone in as a quest user, gotten flack, hopped onto my pcvr setup to an awkward "oh my bad" and suddenly people wanna talk lol (suffice to say, I didn't make friends with them in this case, but they helped prove my experiment).
I suppose the idea is if someone's invested that much, they probably take it more seriously or at least aren't gonna scream and grief, which is probably true to some extent but it's a shame how you get judged for it as a decent normal person.
I just don't buy into the attitude, and avoid people who do too heavily, eventually you get to know decent people (of which there are many) and have a friend group you can expand from there, but it's certainly harsh on decent folk who are just starting up, especially if you're both new and on a quest. Believe me, I tried that at first and it's quite difficult to start with and being fairly shy on top didn't help. Jumping in on pcvr helped a LOT in the beginning. Again, I think its a shame it's like that, but it's true to some extent.
Just hop worlds til you find some cool people, chat and add them up, you'll get a good group going pretty fast - or find a discord community you click with.
I've seen way more hate against desktop users than quest users. But this was mostly from quest users so
@@maximumforce8275 LMAO
class systems in a video game about escaping the boundaries of reality weirdchamp
I only block if people get in my face, especially a screaming kid or a guest, guests are muted by default to filter out most kids
When I was in a world and made some friends, they had convos about me being trusted as I was confused and looked on my profile by surprise that I reached Trusted the same day I also said I would need a lot more hours before getting the rank.
What I honestly think of the rank is that it makes me proud being on this game for long enough that I made my own avatars, met alot of people and just overall had fun visiting worlds and being able to talk to other people. VRChat gave me some adventures so far and still is going to and I love playing the game, because it helps me manage my anxiety and become more talkative towards others. It also makes me comfortable to let other people know by seeing my rank that I'm not new here and it makes it easier for them to understand that I'm not just a troller or someone who wants to give out negative vibes.
*cries in not even having a laptop
you don't need a laptop for vr
@@shane6035 quest is disgustang
@@suffy101 i like it i just wish i could see all the avatars lol
@@stjeep :(
Its understandable why trusted user would hide lower rank avatars, or mute, Some of the reasons are crashers and also not to mention ear rapes by screamers with vacuum mic players aka sound of an airplane,n loud bad static voice changers 😂...i normally hop between private world most of the time but if i feel talkative i might harvest some new friends in public world lol 😂anyhow awesome vid! Nicely done!
I relate so deeply to your use of the word "harvesting," when finding new friends in public worlds.
Crashers are a problem, but I’ve only seen 2 people below Known User rank with Crasher avatars. Everyone else has been either Known or Trusted (I’m a Known User, and have run into hundreds of crashers total)
veteran and legendary users are crying rn
This has evolved and its allot better
Known and trusted also have the power to start a vote kick so if you look at them wrong or have a too low rank then they can kick you from the lobby this has happened to me soo many times
Honestly the only time i block people is if they say something a lot of really bad things or just constantly harass me or my friends and even then it still takes a lot, i tend to make lower rank friends cause they are mostly chill and ive helped some of my newer friends go from visitor to user by having my higher ranked friends around as well
I like staying visitor because then i can see who really wants talk to me instead of talking to me cuz im a trusted user
I just wanted to add to this already informative video, there used to be two additional ranks following trusted which were the veteran & legendary ranks. These still exist, but are only visible via additional mods/clients and are still applied regardless of whether you can see above the trusted rank or not. Pretty much meaningless after the trusted rank, but I know plenty of content creators who’ve uploaded hundreds of avatars and or worlds for the virtual “clout” that comes along with the rank lol
Legendary isn't actually a rank like people thought it was, it's just an additional tag that was given to everybody who logged in during a short window in the summer of 2018. Somebody actually found a New User with the Legendary tag
My fellow vietnamese man.
Bruv, I got no idea how to hang out with my pals anymore. We've been around for so damn long that we've gotten either legendary rank or veteran. And most of them have reached that final stage, the egirl/goth girl stage or eboy/goth boy stage where they hang around at mirrors. All the used to be memers are now just mirror hogs.
I ended up creating two alts and they're already at known, like... Fuck... Meeting users and even visitors is a breath of fresh air. They don't know shit, so you can show them around and talk. Instead of chilling in front of the mirror as a monke while your friends are basically erp-ing.
Tbf, the second part is not that bad, ERPing is great with phantom sense.
how dare those trusted users sit in front of mirrors!! gosh, so arrogant
For me (as a user), the worst people I meet are always trusted users. Visitors can be bad, but trolls are easily muted, hidden, and get bored quickly. It's the trusted users that think they are somehow better than you, and have the crashing avatars for if they don't like you. Obviously not all are bad, just as much as not all visitors and quest users are bad, but I generally have better luck with new users and users than anyone else.
Trusted users also seem to almost always have such horrifically optimised avatars. I've had it before that 1 dude alone dropped my frame rate by 20fps. I use custom safety settings with features turned down on trusted users specifically because of it. I usually point it out to people and ask them to consider something a bit better, but usually get responce of something like "lol, get a better PC". Bitch, I have a RTX 3090 and a 5GHz i9, if I'm having bad frame rate, there's a problem.
That's wild! Can't imagine a game with bad frame rates and yet having a beefy PC. Then again there's lots of avatars with high details in VR Chat that easily slows the game down.
this game could be improved but a cult with social hierarchy ruined every progress they can have. i had hopes for this game when it just started but i guess they want to become like Second Life
Not gonna lie, I automatically block anyone with the visitor rank because the visitors are always the ones with the most toxicness and most frequently toxic
Thats racist
This reminds me of when people were judged by their ranks in Minecraft’s most famous server, hypixel. Oh wait, people still are
Whenever I play VR chat - I pretend I'm david attenborough descovering VR chat for the first time - funny shit
I'm a known user, I find it easier to make friends with visitors and users as they don't typically have friend groups yet. It's harder to join a friend group with trusted users when people have known eachother for so long. Just feels like you don't belong sometimes.
I finally got Trusted Rank, but when I finally got it it was right when I found out about Neos, which I’ve switched to and haven’t used it since so I didn’t really get to use it at all.
this is the reason i pop myself down to user and go to sky camp and stuff.
Personally, the only the thing that the “new user” rank means to me, is that the person has a bigger social life on that game than they do in real life.
the royal high music in the background 😍
you can get to trusted user in under a week.
literally all u need to do it upload a couple blank avatars and words. and buy vrc + and you basically get to trusted instantly.
I'm also a trusted user and I sometimes block other Trusted users, when ever I'm in public I always hide my rank just so I don't accidently be friends with them not knowing there true colors.
One thing that i heard often is that u get trusted user quicker with a vr chat account than with a steam account or oculus account, idk if that's just the average but I for example spent 200+ hours in vrc with a steam account and am currently rank user, my friend with a vr chat account spent 180 hours and is known user
Edit : at 410 hours i got known user, and at this point, I understand why trusted users are so quick to block people, at some point you probably got a group of friends that don't have a life just like you, and u always hang out in private instances with them, and when u then get into a public instance, it just feels like a hell of uncontrollable chaos, and the risk of being crashed, aand of course the way to high amount of rec room squeakers that now also occur in vrchat
To be completely honest, I hold a grudge against trusted users, because every one I’ve met has either been a crasher, an asshole towards all newbies, and a spam reporter and kicker.
I'm always running into trusted users with toxic behavior. Such as
"get out of here if you don't have fbt"
"You're not a known user yet stfu"
I hate those people. They think a random sequence of 0s and 1s means Person A (anyone below Known User) is a child with a garbage mic and a crasher avatar, and Person B (Known User and above) is the only other person that exists. In reality, I’ve seen far more crashers in the hands of Known and Trusted Users than anyone else, and a few have even tried to use them on me because I was a lower rank.
I’m a Known User now, and unfortunately, I’ve seen several players of the Visitor or New User ranks straight up avoid me (I’m a pretty friendly guy, even if I keep to myself most of the time). I would toggle the setting to appear as just an ordinary User rank, but then I run into elitists who think I’m beneath them.
when I got trusted I was happy because I like the color purple.
A players rank is there legend of there tale
I became trusted user in two weeks sleeping in VR, Interacting with people uploading. Didn’t even know it was big deal I was just enjoying VRC
*Me playing VRchat for 2 years
"You guys got Trusted User?"
When I was playing in one world I didn't know that these were elitists but they just looked over and said "ugh two visitors" and I didn't even know what the rankings were lol
There is one rank even MORE superior to Trusted user.
That rank... is...
FRIEND!!!
And they earn it by becoming your...
FRIEND!!!
bruh im trusted with full body tracking and over 2k hours, and tbh all i do is play among us these days lmao, alot of my newer friends are actually visitors or new users who are just trying out the game.
They’re equivalent to “Mentors” in Final Fantasy 14 lol
The only time I worried about the rank system was the day I installed VRChat and wanted to upload my own avatar, I dumped $10 into the game which guartentees you a single rank-up and then I was done and could upload avatars same day. I mostly forgot about it afterwards but at some point reached trusted pretty quick, like 200 hours in I think. Unfortunately, I had more than one situation where people asked how many hours I had put in, I'd say, idk, like 200 or 300. Then they would get upset at me and begin causing a scene and it was because I had trusted. Apparently, it used to take you well over a thousand hours to get trusted so it was greatly offensive that I got it in far less time they either blamed vrchat or blamed that fact I had VRChat plus even though VRChat plus only gives you 1 rankup, it's not like you can pay to get that rank. idk, i found the whole thing dumb, the rank system is crap and failed to achieve it's goal, trusted users can be just as untrusted as lower rank users, all it does is add elitism and extra problems. But I'm more aware of my rank because occasionally I'll run into people that throw drama over it.
I personally would talk with anyone as long as they are nice :)
Some people believe there might be some more secret ranks that are higher than trusted, called veteran and legendary.
they do exist
Being told "Congratulations on moving up to User" feels pretty nice. I like to tell others how to make an account and start making progress.
When a known user is bullying a jobless younger person for not being able to afford a vive or index, the ranking system has failed
I've been binge watching your content and you're pretty damn good at this, you definitely earned a sub!
Many people ask me where to get avatars if they do then ill just open a classic avatar world
I hate being a trusted user. People automatically assume I’m a jerk, and attack me for it. Some trusted users are obnoxious. A good amount of them are nice.
i recently lost my old account and it was a trusted user, i lost all my avatars, even some my old friends made for me and now im stuck at visitor cos i only ever hang out with the same groups of people so..
Being a trusted user in VrChat is a joke. lol
cool video
Thanks 😊
Conversely, if 80% of visitors weren't 12 year olds or trolls who got a Quest for their birthday/christmas I'm sure there would be less elitism.
"UIGIIM MMIM A TRUSTED UUSSER AND THIS IS WHAT II DOOO"
you get located through the internet and hunted down and get your life ended :D
BRO, I love visitors and users they're like the easiest to make friends with haha
vrchat is normal society but on extremely strong drugs
I will die happy k kwing that atago ead part of your thumbnail lol
As much as I would love to argue with many of you, your right a nickname for trusted user is untrusted user, and most have clients. Still many are great people if you get to know them or find ones in worlds like werewolf when games are happening.
so i have almost 100 hours and 51 friends in vrchat and im still a new user. i merged accounts even and im pretty sure i should be at least to user rank. is this normal?
A friend of mine has the same amount of hours, less friends, and is a User. You might be on the verge of ranking up.
i hope so
@@TwiceVR ranked up :)
I have 70 hours and idk like 50 friends also and im only an visitor?
@@bertilolsson8902 have you linked your steam account to a vrchat account?
I have a total of 1k or even 2k hours on this game and i didn't even notice when i got this rank.
Now, i'm not the kind of guy that goes "eeeww a visitor! Get outta me game!" but i'd like to give a lil' push to new players...
One thing that i hate is that 90% of these visitors are kids with Quest that think they're somehow superior, and that's why i stopped hanging around in public lobbies (and if i do, i'm forced to block 80% of the players because they're all this kind of kid).
Better not getting me started on trusted users who use crashers/clients/etc., because i'd have a real lot o' things to say
I have 100h of time in VRchat and im still a Visitor lol
I hit trusted at 150 hours and for some reason despite never mirror dwelling before I'm now at rest and sleep looking at a mirror most of the time lmao [perhaps I was subconsciously on that friend grind in other public worlds and now that I'm trusted I don't have to anymore lol].
As a trusted user, I honestly forget that I am trusted user and only ever remember when someone brings it up to me... I do like that my username is purple though since it's my favorite color..... wait... no it's not. CURSE YOU VRCHAT TAKING AWAY ALL THAT IS GOOD!
Jokes aside, I just don't go to public lobbies often because there's too many friends I want to hangout to go there. I also like things to be rather quiet. Public lobbies can be quiet, but they often are not.
You get a purple border around your profile pic in the menu though. So you've got that going for you, which is nice.
@@Cloverpotato I often forget that is even a thing, but yes that is nice. = )