THE RESULT OF POORLY BRED HAMSTERS | The Sailor Moon Litter Intake | Munchie's Place
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- At the Rescue i founded, we take in hamsters/gerbils/mice. We are known to take in Syrian Litters from time to time. Big or Small. But this litter we dubbed the "Sailor Moon Litter" has had so many medical problems, so many hardships, that it's a lesson to be learned to animal lovers and their companion animals about preventing suffering and hardships. Please do not intentionally breed your companion, please understand why genetics are so important if you're looking into the hobby of having a Hamstery and why it's putting an animal in danger by choosing blindly to mate your hamster when it's meant to be for companionship as a pet owner, not a breeder. This litter has been the saddest litter I've ever had to be emotionally involved with at the Rescue.
Hello viewers alike who're coming from the YT Algorithm. This is a vlog about events that're happening at the rescue i founded that're relevant to those who've been following along on my journey of rescuing small animals such as hamsters/gerbils/mice (Instagram is where most of these stories stem from). If you're new here, please be aware this is a breaking point for me and an all time low at the rescue as i share my journey with you all openly. It's an emotional video. While i shouldn't have to warn people of everything that needs to be talked about in this video, others have taken the liberty to inform me of how i need to make videos, because i don't inform people correctly. I really don't think there is a right or wrong way to inform someone. You the recipient may take things differently than others and that's perfectly okay. Please understand if this is not your cup of tea, just let it be. Pouring out my emotions on camera is hard. I wear my heart on my sleeve. If you're not familiar with me, my style, please be respectful. I'm aware this video can cause emotions in other people. Animals mean a lot to me and that's why i rescue, foster, rehome with my amazing team of volunteers. I am on youtube to spread information, encourage or to inspire others. Thank you for hearing me out and for listening and for being kind about it.
Oh. My. Goodness. I cannot tell you how sorry I am for what you've gone through. I run a small, family-owned non-profit rescue/foster for Betta fish and nano aquaria, and I cannot tell you how bad I've seen these poor guys and what they've gone through, so I can understand. Seriously, how can people be so selfish to go through all this just to abuse or neglect a little pet, like your little sweethearts? Your little Sailor Moon litter didn't ask for this horrific heart disease! If only people would be smarter and more considerate than they are now....then no animal would have to go through such a terrible, horrific, slow, painful death 😭 I teared up several times throughout this video, trying not to cry since my family would probably give me a strange side glance, but my heart goes out to you and the wonderful things you do! You're the reason these sweethearts were given a good home, even if it wasn't permanent...❤
Bless you Munchie and your team for dedicating your lives to caring for ALL hamsters and making people aware of the dangers of unethical breeding and poor pet care.. I will be looking into donating and doing anything I can to help and support the cause.
I hope Saturn is doing well
You do all you could do.... I'm so sorry😭 I hope the others are doing good💕
I really want to surrender my hamsters to you and if you can please take them
If you feel the need to breed things for fun; do us all a favour and buy the Sims 4.
Yes , yes , 1000 yes
PREACH, SIS! 🙏
Lol
Play god in the sims only 😎
Nah Minecraft is better
What a lot of backyard breeders don't seem to realise is yes, they'll naturally breed BUT you're putting them in a "last female and male on earth" scenario and playing God. They don't have the pick of healthiest mate, you've lumped Genetic Disorder Gerry and Heart Disease Hattie together and left them with no healthy choices. In the wild, weak and sickly hamsters don't get to breed, they're out competed by the healthy. Naturally in ideal conditions, your shop hamsters probably wouldn't breed in the wild.
Genetic Disorder Gerry and Heart disease Hattie 😭😭😭🤷♀️🤷♀️
Nicely put!
U have literally explained that so well. Hopefully this will get through to the people that don't. get it. 🙏
@@freyatheuncontrollablesaus3202 I know I shouldn’t be laughing but the way you repeated that I can’t help it 🙈🙈🙈 what a horrible situation for the poor little guys!!!
@@MissEddieBlueKawaiiKrafts he he
"Oh we want our pet to experience motherhood" - hamsters eat their own young, you sure about that?
Some of them don't even eat their own young, they eat their families' young too
@BitterSweet no I heard that if the mother has too many babies or if she is in constant stress from people poking around the mother's nest she will eat the babies to get the nutrition so the "predator" won't get the babies nutrition. Plz don't quote me on this, I only HEARD this.
BitterSweet Also, if she’s eating the babies solely for nutrition, and not due to stress… You want to change her diet. She is clearly not getting what she needs if that’s the case.
Lil Cocoa I’m 99% sure you’re correct! I’ve read and heard this multiple places!
@@Peanit Ok, me too!
I have this bad feeling that the 3 others were not rehomed before you got to them - hopefully I'm wrong, but that seems shady that suddenly when they get into good care problems start emerging.
You have a REALLY good point...
another clue is first there was a rehoming fee, even though it was small, but then they went on to change it to "we want them gone, for free"
Mor Kurakuro, 😭
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking...
I think they either died of some kind of disease or something, or got eaten, because the amount left are around the same amount of hamsters that don’t get eaten.
Yikes
I've had seizures, its not a pleasant feeling, when it starts its like your eyes are in tunnel vision mode, everything has a blue-ish cast, your unable to focus on sounds, your thoughts aren't clear, then your balance starts to go and you collapse and everything feels like its spinning and you cant control your movements, poor hammy, I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
I'm sorry you go through this. I'm lucky enough that I only have to deal with anxiety. I can kinda relate to the unclear thoughts, but instead of losing control of my body, I lose control of my breathing and mind.
@@NutmegBGB I haven't had one in a long time, I figured out at 14-15 that I get them mostly when i'm overly tired, so if I start feeling jittery I go lay down for a bit and nap, I was distracted by something else a few days ago and didn't notice, but my dog called attention to it by laying across my lap (he's untrained, and still a puppy, he also isn't very cuddly, so it was odd), I went inside and took a nap after that, just barely missed that one. I highly recommend a dog if you can get one, I have pretty bad anxiety myself and even though my puppy isn't for it, he still helps a lot.
That seems awful, you and hamsters never did anything to deserve that happening to them!
Alexis Ryuun as someone with severe epilepsy I’m disappointed and frustrated by people like you who self diagnose and have no clue what any kind of seizure is like or how they work. Lady this ain’t it. 😒
Francesca Alvelo There’s a lot of different types of seizures, just saying. I’ve had a seizure once and it was totally different from this but mine was due to my brain being deprived of oxygen.
This is SO SADDENING. The 3rd hamster I owned was a lady sirian that was pregnant, but we had no idea. One day I came back from school and found her with nine babies. Thankfully we had a great vet that helped us with everything and all the babies were fine and adopted, we kept two males ad they lived happily for 3 years. From your story I guess we were EXTREMELY LUCKY. I don't think I could have taken it if that happened to me😢
wow they lived happily past their average lifetime! good job :)
Same thing happened to me when I got a pet rat, she was in a breeder tank but the store said she was only with other females. Well one day (July 11th :) ) I was at work and my brother texted me saying my rat had 7 babies, we rehomed all of them in same sex pairs to people who already owned rats and kept two of the male babies.
I still have one of the babies (he's 3 this year) but unfortunately his brother passed away a few months ago :/ I'm glad all the babies were healthy and went to good homes
Poor sweet hammies, this is terrible. I can't imagine thinking about breeding any hamsters without knowing what I'm doing. They are living things, we should want the best for them. So glad there are people like you out there doing what they can, it matters.
Finding a hamster dying is one of the worst things imaginable. I found mine, my first ever hammy. struggling to breath, and she passed 20 minutes later. Further research told me it was a heart defect from bad breeding. It’s...it’s just so awful. So heartbreaking. I was mourning for so long. My heart goes out to you Munchie. 💙
Same happened with my hamster, he was only 4 months old, vet said it should have been picked up by the breeder or store had anyone checked
Mine passed last month, he was my first hammy and first pet but finding him and holding him as he passed was one of the saddest and scariest parts of my life so far. Rip gibbles you were the best hammy a girl could ask for.🙏
Poor Munchie. Hope he's enjoying heaven
Trigger warning: GRAPHIC My last hamster had a brain aneurysm while I was at work. I found her still alive (warning again graphic details) but barely with no eyes and blood coming out everywhere. Obviously I had to have her euthanized but up until then it was the saddest thing in the world. She was in horrible pain and terrified. She was literally screaming. I love Syrian Hamsters but haven’t had one in years because this was so traumatic. Bad breeding is so dangerous and evil.
My hamster started getting lumps everywhere on her body. It got so bad she was just a big ball- she couldnt walk. It was years ago. Im not sure what really went wrong tbh
I don’t own a hamster, I don’t plan on owning a hamster but holy crap I care about this more than I thought I would!
Thank you for rescuing these guy's. Its sad how some people treat hamsters like little toy's thinking its cute to have a bunch of these fur babies around. I had a friend that did that when we where younger and she quickly became overwhelmed and gave all the hamsters to her grandma who put them in a huge cage outside and fed them tamales. Needless to say im sure you know the outcome.
Oh gosh
*Tamales.*
T A M A L E S
Tamales???
T A M L E S
I apologize on behalf of all the viewers who give you a hard time for just plain telling them the ugly truth about these bright, delightful and much abused little creatures. You are an absolute angel for caring so deeply and giving second chances to so many sweet little fuzzles.
This ^ ❤️
I did " fight " with a stupid teacher because she wanted me to arrange a couple of dwarfs because she wanted the kids had the experience of seeing " the miracle of life and birth "
Did you succeed?
@@catherinetam4894 I hope not.
@@epochii2756 I hope the person succeeded in that fight; because the teacher did not know what they were doing.
If they had allowed the hamsters to breed, everyone would want to touch the babies and so the hamster would feel stressed and overwhelmed, and likely 'the miracle of life and birth' would have turned into 'WHY IS SHE EATING THE BABIES??'
My favorite quote about carelessly breeding: "It has been suggested that anyone who feels they should breed their dog in order for their children to witness the miracle of birth should be required to visit the euthanasia room of their local animal shelter to witness the miracle of death."
If she wants to show them where babies come from why not bring them to a farm and watch a cow give birth?
I'm so sorry. People are so, so ignorant when it comes to breeding animals.
"Oh, but wouldn't it be NICE for for my pet to have the experience of breeding/motherhood"
"Oh, but it would be FUN for the kids to see. I think it would be SO educational for them, maybe they can bring them to show and tell or something"
"Oh, what's more innocent and fun then a bunch of puppies/kittens/baby hamsters. Stop being so serious and judgemental"
"LOL, lets just see what happens isn't this exciting BABIES OMGG!!1"
And then what do you do with them. When you don't have the space, when the animals end up with health complications like this. These poor creatures, that didn't ask to be part of this world, end up either dumped, in the wrong hands or if they're lucky, with someone like you. Who then has to go through all of the heartache of seeing these animals suffer, that some thoughtless individual carelessly brought in to being only to live short painful lives.
Thank you for doing the best for these little creatures, and thank you for making this video. If all the pain you and these little hamsters went through gets through to even just a few people, then at least I hope you can find some comfort in knowing you might have prevented more situations like this from occurring.
All of my empathy and love to you and this poor little litter. This didn't have to happen, but at least you were there. They lived their short lives in the best possible comfort and care, and when they passed, you could then use this sad story to educate others and help prevent more sad stories.
I've started keeping guinea pigs and when I decided to add a male to my heard I knew I was going to have to keep them separated until he was fully sterile. I got so many comments like "oh, are you going to have babies before hand?" "you should let them have babies because they'd be Sooo Cute!" It really irritated me because of this exact reason.
1.They're rescues and I don't know their medical history and it's extremely irresponsible.
2. I'm not equipped to care for pregnant guineas or the babies.
People who breed animals just because babies are cure make me irrationally angry
Babies maybe are cute, but congenetical deffects are not
@@Wolfina1 Arrrgh this makes me so mad too... People who actually get upset over the idea of their male animal never breeding. So many issues come from people applying their own human insecurities on to animals.
I've heard so many dog owners who are reluctant to neuter say things along these lines, as if their byb husky is even safe to breed, let alone a sought after studmuffin.
Like, he's a guinea pig. He'll never miss what he's never known, and he can now live a happier, more stress free life surrounded by his cute gf's. Also, are those same people who asked if you were going to have babies, willing themselves to take one on from you? Probably not. How selfish of them to want the spectacle without any of the responsibility.
Thank you for being a responsible owner, I wish there were more.
Animal based std's are also not fun either.
For example cats esipceally male cats have a really high rate of various std's.all cuase owners won't have their pets fixed or keep them inside.
Gaia Nichols-Oakes I think baby animals are cute. I think nearly everyone does. But I go to my Sims game, breed virtual dogs, get bored and move on. I don’t need to subject real animals to possible health issues, stress and myself to the responsibility of caring for more animals. Besides, shelters are full enough, and I’ve seen enough disgusting backyard breeders looking for a quick buck. Just stick to silly games where it won’t affect anything in the real world lmao.
When I was little, my parents and my friends' parents gave the children hamsters like they were Tamagochis - to let the kids play. If it dies, it doesn't matter - it's only a hamster. I guess some people don't see small animals as something with a worthy life :/
The thing that always baffles me is : why would anyone breed their pets when there's already so many waiting on craigslist, 24/24h. Damn.
Probably because pet breeding is free and craigslist and other sites aren't.
@@vetsrus31 Oh °-° on the french version of craigslist there's always people ready to give for free their pets, so I guess I stand corrected for craigslist
@@BasilWyrth i mean sometimes there are but not always. So using craigslist like sites can be risky. Plus in america a lot of people say they have something free and than they try to kill you or scam you and so it can be very scary.
Not that i am condoning breeding but i understand why they choose it.
Basil Wyrth For the same reason there’s so many waiting on Craigslist 24/24h lol
In our country kittens go away for more than 50 euros and people drive to the other side of the country to pick them up. We dont have petshops where they sell cats and dogs. And we dont have stray animals.
Oh Munchie, I am SO SO SO sorry. I cannot imagine how hard this is on you & I am sending positive vibes your way.
Thank you for all the work that you do. For taking these guys in and doing all you can for them.
Munchie, I just wanted to say thank you for shining a light on issues like this. I wouldn’t have known any of that if you didn’t teach me. People are listening to you, I’m listening to you, and I’ve learned a lot.
You literally have the heart of Jenna Marbles with animal care and responsibility. I can't think of a better way to describe that level of respect for living beings.
Thank you for the work you do!
Jenna literally made a 45 minute apology about her fish. I think she had them in the wrong kind of tank? I don’t know. But she cares so much
J Berg the tank was a little to small and she literally was so sad about it and now she‘s doesn‘t have yt anymore
I feel so bad for these hammys, they don't deserve to suffer :( ❤
so true
I've been researching on hamster genetics lately as I've been wanting to know what coat my hammy is, sent me down a rabbit hole that I'm way to comfortable in and don't want to get out any time soon. I believe my hammy is a cream dominant white syrian and I know that if I want to breed her to NOT breed her to another dominant white, otherwise that can result in the death of the pups
Edit: if I breed any animal in the future, I'm going to get them checked by a vet, including DNA testing to avoid any problems thanks to the video. Munchie, you're strong for what you do
My Aunt has a dog name Luna that is prone to seizures due to bad breeding. Luna was the offspring of half-siblings breeding. Her and her sister were the only two dogs that survive her siblings died within a week of being born And at the end the father dog and the mother dog died to.
The saddest thing about Luna is that we know she might not survive to her 10th birthday.
Munchie, you are a legit angel & so are all your volunteers, you make these hamsters lives possible and so many others xx thank you for offering the best future for them, even if they're permanent residents
You know what? This shows how far munchie is willing to go to show people, the public, pet owners, the abuse and ignorance still going around in the pet community. Even when you can tell it hurts for her to talk about this. That’s bold.
It's really beautiful how much you care for these hamsters. I'm so glad that they have someone to care for them this way, because most pet hamsters don't.
This is literally heartbreaking. You care about these hammies so much. They don't deserve such suffering because of ignorant breeders. 😔
I'm sorry you went through this. I have seizures and I can only imagine being so small and having the same thing. They really are horrible.
That being said, I wanted to share something.
About 4 years ago, I bought a male dog from out of state from a breeder of merit with the AKC. It said she did all the testing and had a full disclosure agreement. I got my boy, about a year later I did his urine analysis and it was slightly off so rather than chance it, I decided to neuter him. Last year, I let him outside to potty and when I went to get him 20 minuets later he was dead in my yard. I took him to the vet to find out what went wrong to protect the other 2 dogs that live with me. He had a hereditary heart condition and a heart attack was what took his life.
I contacted the breeder to let her know what I had found out and she already knew. Then through our discussion I found out he was the last dog to die out of his litter. There were 9 puppies. 9 of them. All but my boy died within 2 years of being born and sold and he never saw his 5th birthday. Turns out the mother had the same heart condition and so did the father's lines. So what happened was these puppies got it on both sides and that is what ultimately killed them.
Moral of the story, be careful who you trust as a reputable breeder. Make sure you know enough to know if this person is playing with you. Make sure you know what tests need to be done, do the research, and if you are getting an animal of any sort from a breeder ask for the parent's test results. If you are going to breed, and I have so I get it the tests are expensive, but they are so incredibly important. Don't let poor information break your heart and be the reason you break someone else's heart.
im so sorry :'(
Ah... i remember having a syrian hammie with severe panic attacks.
Was supposed to be snake food, but we took ‘m in to give him a chance at life.
He was a sweet boy but his attacks were a real problem :(
Aw :(
As a snake owner I can't imagine bringing myself to feed my snake a hamster.
What do you feed your snake?
I shouldn't have watched this.
We lost my favourite rat yesterday. Every time you talked about them laying there cold all I could think of was him.
Last year we lost his brother to a seizure/stroke. This is so horribly familiar. I'm so sorry.
RIP Kenji you were a good, wholesome handsome boy. It was so hard seeing Munchie on the verge of tears
don’t forget tuxedo💔
I can somewhat sympathize with being overwhelmed when breeding... I wanted to breed rabbits once.
I was prepared, at least I thought I was. I knew the basics of taking care of mom and babies, I had a couple of purebred rex rabbits. Not pet shop rabbits, these were Show-rabbits.
They had good health and were both very friendly.
They had a litter of babies...12 babies... This was just the start of the trouble... I started begging for advise online getting tons of conflicting advice, same saying get them replacement milk, others saying I should absolutely NOT give them replacement milk... 8 died within the first two weeks. By the time they started venturing outside the nest however the remaining four started gaining weight, as they were now capable of eating on their own.
I had a few buyers lined up as I had advertised them before I even attempted the breeding... Guess how many of those came through when the babies were 8 weeks old...
2.
Only 2.
So the other two stayed with me. No big deal right? I was gonna keep at least one anyway, and eventually I was also able to find a home for the other.
A year later I had another litter. This one fared a lot better health-wise as there were only 6 of them.
However this time around everyone who had asked to adopt a kit in the past pulled out for one reason or another. I was able to rehome one of them, but in the end I was left with 10 rabbits.
Mom and dad, 6 of their children and two mixbreeds I just kept as pets.
The problem this time however was that I simply didn't have the time or capability to take care of 10 rabbits. Most of them lived in separate hutches except the mom and her only daughter as well as the two mixbreeds. The youngest weren't particularly tame, the dad and the oldest son got sore hooks (basically bumblefoot in rabbits, can happen from unsanitary environments, rex rabbits are especially prone to it due to their short fur).
In the end I ended up setting up an ad for the entire breeding stock. (Simply surrendering them to a rescue wasn't really an option as the local rescues around here only take in homeless pets, and I wasn't gonna just abandon them in the woods.) I just had to get rid of them, they wouldn't be happy if I kept them all together like this. (And yes the two with sore paws were all better at this point, but I did warn the new owners.) I had one guy offering to take all of them...he already had over 200 rabbits he said...I said no. He might have been better at taking care of large amount of rabbits but I seriously doubt he would do anything more than the bare minimum to keep them alive and healthy.
In the end I was left with only three rabbits. Luckily things ended happier for those three at least as they were all fixed and bonded together as a trio.
I bring this story up rather frequently when I hear about people wanting to breed because "babies are so cute" or "I wanna teach my kids responsibility."
Well first of you're not teaching them responsibility, quite the opposite in fact... Secondly things can go wrong really fast. If you wanna breed thing about it, do your research, think more, plan for everything, do more research, think even more. And prepare for having to keep every single baby. Doesn't matter if all your cousins said they wanted a hamster 3 months ago. A lot can happen in-between you breeding your pets and them actually being ready for adoption.
My situation happened after I HAD done research and actually had a pretty decent breeding pair. And even then it ended in disaster.
My last hamster had a similar seizure to Saturn too...she died on the way to the vet.
Rabbits should not be kept in hutches. I understand that this isnt now but if you still have rabbits in hutches that is very bad for their health. Rabbits need a lot of space or they are prone to many health problems especially with their joints. If you still have rabbits please do proper research on how they should be raised. Honestly hutches arent even the bare minimum for a good healthy life.
I'm so sorry for the loss of the bunnies, I never have had bunnies (YET) but one of my good friends had some, I just can't imagine 10 bunnies at once. I also understand why you did not give them to the person with 200 bunnies, as in that situation I would do the same .
@@marissaterraza2730 there were 10 of them dude. I couldn't exactly get separate pens for all of them and bonding wasn't an option either since they weren't neutered since I was planning on breeding.
They took turns free-roaming the shed though and I even had some outdoor runs they could use during summer so its not like they were stuck in there permanently. (There's another reason I didn't wanna sell to the 200-rabbit guy...didn't sound like the kind of person who would let them free-roam at all.)
zakuraRabbit thankyou for sharing, I can’t imagine this was easy for you. At one stage I had three rabbits, a bonded pair and a continental giant cross, and I struggled with housing etc. I respect you for being responsible after realising your mistake and rehoming/fixing them🙏💙
how big can and should rabbits get? like creating a breed of rabbit that gets as large as medium dog
You don't have to try not to cry. Im sitting here crying (and they are not even my animals). I wish there were more people like you. Every living creature derserves love and (health) care. This must have been very hard for you wish I could give you a hug 😭😘
My friend who breeds rats has a brutal saying for poeple who breed just for fun without putting much thought into it.
"Either you'll be stuck with a bunch of animals you don't want or you'll be selling them has snake food"
This saying has made a few poeple think twice about breeding cuase it lays out the harsh reality of breeding.(also no she doesn't sell her unwanted babies has snake food.normally I'm the one to take them if she doesn't keep them herself)
.....now I wonder how many people own snakes and breed rats for snake food. 🤔 i dont think i could ever do that to my capt crunch's babies if I ever owned a snake tho, he shalt stay a little ratty bachelor 🐀
@@sourpuss1455 yes I had a snake owner that wanted a older winter white dwarf hamster from me. I asked him why he wanted a male and if he wanted to breed and he said it wasnt for his snake, but he did chose the white hamster male. I just know that he will breed with him and he had other hamsters. And he will give the babies to the snake. He wanted to breed. I did not sell the hamster to him. I rather keep the hamster myself then give it to someone that I dont trust
I keep snakes, but I feed frozen/thawed mice and rats that are bred as feeders. I am in the uk and it is illegal to feed live unless it has been stipulated that your snake will not eat otherwise. But I am in a lot of snake groups and see many people breed and raise their own prey items. Personally, I couldn’t do it. I really like rats and plan on getting some within the next few years. I don’t think I could even feed live, I would end up keeping them all and having to rehome my snakes which is not my intention.
If they are being sold for extermely cheap or worse given out for free there's owes a risk of them ending up has snake food.even in the UK cuase poeple do break the law.
Just like how dog fighting is illegal but poeple still get dogs for it and they mainly get their bait dogs on public sites where poeple are giving away their beloved dog for free or very cheap.
@@sourpuss1455 I plan to breed rats/mice myself at one point because I despise the way feeder animals are bred and treated :/ and so I want to buy one or two pairs of mice and keep the pairs as pets but raise their pups as feeders (I do not feed live, they'll definitely be pre killed)
Also a good way to make sure the animal is fresh when I feed it because it happens so often that the mouse I thaw out it smells rotten, gross and bloated.
People are so careless and irresponsible with "breeding" small animals. It is a huge problem with rats as well. Hey, those two look adorable and have a nice temperament, they will have the sweetest babies! As if they were toys or a real life video game. Who cares about genetics, those small pets don't live long anyways and the parents seemed perfectly healthy at the moment. It's the animals that have to suffer from health problems or end up being homeless when the famous "just one litter" gets out of control because they separate the sexes too late. Small pets deserve they same respect and care as any other animal, even if their lifespan is short, it should be healthy and as long as possible.
My friend who is a rat breeder says."you'll either have a bunch of animals you don't want or will be selling snake food" to poeple like that to make them think twice.
@@briannaharter4411 A reputable rat breeder for me is someone who has great genetic knowledge, actual breeding goals, is keeping track of their litters (if only to make sure that the lines are actually healthy), is taking them back if the person who bought them doesn't want them anymore and has space and money to keep the rats that aren't adopted. There are a hand few of such responsible breeders here in Germany. No dog or cat breeder would be like: Oh, if not all of the puppies are adopted, they can be given away as feeders for zoo animals. This is the very different mindset when it comes to breeding small animals and it makes me sad.
my friend is a raputable rat breeder.she has that saying to teach poeple looking at her rats and wanting to breed them just cuase babies are cute a harsh lesson about breeding.
In fact this saying also can be applied to puppies and kittens to considering the fate of a lot of free to a good home puppy and kittens is sometimes a snakes belly.
@@briannaharter4411 Sorry, I didn't mean to insult your friend or say she's not a good breeder. Sadly, there are also people who intentionally have a litter of kittens or puppies because babies are adorable and they want to experience it once. I just feel that much more people do it with small animals because they cost less and it's not considered to be so bad when the mother or babies die or end up in the wrong hands.
I bought three guinea pigs from someone who didnt want them, two of them were female and one was a male. The second female was the child of the other two. The people I bought the guinea pigs from failed to tell me that both of the females was pregnant. They gave birth to five babies who had a plethera of health problems because of inbreeding so I was unable to give them away for adoption because no one wanted to pay thousands of dollars for their vet bills. I care for them still the oldest out of the bunch is 9 years old and still chugging along, I definitely think people should acknowledge the risks of breeding and housing the same sexes together.
I am SOOOOOOO blessed to have found this channel when I was thinking about adopting a hamster. I am NOT ready for a hamster and you know what- I am ok with saying this. I was sorely mistaken with how much these hamsters need more TLC than I thought, I have never owned a hamster, probably never will- but I want to learn as much as possible and I thank you munchie for this. This stuff devastates me, but this NEEDS TO BE HEARD!!!
I have experienced my animal having a seizure. Although it was my 7 year old German Shepard Reece. He was in my dad's jeep because he goes almost everywhere with my dad because he gets stressed at home without my dad. The car wasn't hot. I was in there too. My dad had been gone for about 2 minutes and Reece was lying down , then he started shaking and shaking and trying to walk towards me and was just shaking then he fell over on his side. I grabbed my phone and told my dad to get outside to the car. My dad came running out we went straight to the vets. I knew he was having a seizure he had had one once in his life before. We got to the vets we had called ahead to make sure there was no problems. We went in Reece was still shaking we carried him in he was so heavy we brought him into a room and I went outside. By some miracle he was ok. He is ok. Reece doesn't have any heart problems the vets have never found any so we just have to hope he will never have another seizure again
Similar experience, but my rottie was already sick. My mother had just called the vet and the exchange went like this:
Mom: *Lists symptoms *
Vet: Has he seized?
Mom: no
Vet: okay then don't bring him in unless it gets worse
*_click_*
Dog: they're grooving
He ended up having cancer and after a long string of events we had to put him down, but I'm not looking for pity, just wanted you to relate to someone.
I'm so sorry to hear that at least my dog Reece is still with us. I'm sure your rottie is having a good time in the shy though he cant cant sick up there.
@@floras_farm2225 he's playing with our neighbour's chocolate lab :)
Our senior Border Collie/lab mix has seizures and it's always scary when it happens
@@Ilostbestgirltoacar aww hun I'm sorry,that must be torture have to watch such a beloved family member go through hell and not be able to do anything but watch and restrain him.
Also that mix sounds adorable, and I'd love to see 'em if this wasn't a CZcams comment :')
edit: I speak English I swear
I adopted my robo from an accidental litter. He’s 7 months old now and I’m so thankful his health seem great, and have had no complications. I can’t fathom how you must feel every time u lose one of the rescues. I pray people begin to realize that hamsters are not toys, and should be cared for with love, not bred for fun.
I am so horribly sorry. I’ve recently set up a preview 528 to take in a rescue all thanks to you. I’ve learned from you and for that I can’t thank you enough. I understand the suffering you and these poor animals are going through. You tried your best and you gave it your all. They are in a good place now, and they were in your hands for a part of their lives. May they Rest In Peace and thank you for being amazing.
I got my two gerbils from a pet store. (Vanilla and Gerry) Gerry was diagnosed with anxiety, as her mother also had anxiety. She is also prone to seizures, also like her mother. Her mother unfortunately died from a seizures. I'm always scared something will happen to her. ❤️
Devastating 😭 I’m so sorry this is happening, to them and to you. Will you be informing the family you got them from to educate them so they don’t do this again? My heart goes out to all of you ❤️
My hamster was two years and 3 months old when she had a seizure she died in my arms an hour later it was one of the most horrible experience’s iv ever went through.
Tayler Donald I’m so sorry to hear that
So thing similar happened with my yuki. She was a breathtakingly beautiful lady.
Foster fail? You are giving her a chance some people would have put her down you are giving her a life. In my opinion it’s not a fail. Yes, she isn’t gonna get adopted out. Also I am so sorry you have deaths in those hamsters but you did everything you could.
Wloxya the term “ foster fail” is usually used when you are suppose to foster an animal and adopt out. Since it can’t be adopted out it’s technically a “foster fail”
Luna Awesomeness sorry if it wasn’t clear from the “Yes, she isn’t gonna get adopted out” part I did realize that. I have just learned that calling something a fail can have a negative impact on mental health.
@@wloxya7422 Animals don't understand words generally, they can learn to pick up some words, and they can read tones. You you smile at a dog and go "aren't you just a little failure" instead of saying "aren't you a little cutie", using the same tone, they'll be fine lol.
Good god it's just a term. It's not in any way calling the animal a failure. Just the intention of fostering has failed.
The term is usually used for when you fall in love with a foster animal and decide to keep it rather than adopting it out. I don't particularly like using it in the way she had in the video because it's supposed to be a happy thing, at least for me, but I get what she's saying. 2 of my cats are foster fails. I got too attached to them to give them up. That's the happy kind of failing.
I'm so sorry, my poor kitten Cinder passed away from heart cancer at only 11 months old 😿. He came from a home were the people did not neuter their animals, we believe his problems were likely caused by bad genetics (sadly his brother has also passed recently from feline leukemia 😥). I totally agree with you, *never ever* breed animals unless you are 💯% focused and knowledgeable on health, animal welfare, and solid genetics. Ethical breeders are ok but adoption should always be the first option.
Best wishes, I hope the rest of the hammies will have good lives. Thank you so much for spreading awareness, I know this video had to of been hard to make.❤️.
I ended up super lucky with my boy. He was a part of an accident litter from two pet store hamsters (the pet store didn't realize they put a MALE with the females 🤦🏽♀️). My friend bought her female from the store and, of course, ended up with 12 babies. One died in the first night but the others thrived (she's an awesome hammy owner). I never realized how horribly wrong the litter could have ended up but I'm grateful they all ended up okay.
I had a kitten who died due to an accident. She was perfectly healthy and loved to climb on the backs of chairs for attention. One of the chairs fell over on top of her and broke her spine. She was paralyzed and in pain so we had to put her down. Though obviously a very different scenario, seeing Saturn wobbling around reminded me of her trying to move after the accident.
I know this is a bit late but I'm still sorry for your loss.
I hope these hamsters are in a better place now. A place without pain, where they can stuff their cheeks as much as they'd like and never feel fear again.
My hamster bee went into hibernation like Kenji, and I put her right on a heat pad. She began responding for a couple hours. I took my eye of her for 15 minutes. 15 MINUTES! And that was to long. But that was a month ago. I got u. ❤️❤️
@@tigerosu2070 thank you for letting me know this, it might help in future 🙂
@@tigerosu2070 absoloutely, whenever my hamsters went into hibernation when it was cold weather or something, keeping them against my chest and gently rubbing them for 20 mins or so was enough to warm them up. I would never dream of leaving one on a heat mat unattended for 15 mins 😭
@@tigerosu2070 yassee thank you sooo much
I absolutely hate this. I feel like people will breed carelessly with animals like hamsters because they’re just seen as “stupid little pets.” NO. They are living beings just like any other animal! I bet you that if these were dogs, cats, whatnot, people would be in tears. But if you were maybe say in public crying like this over a hamster, you’d be made fun of, because people are heartless and don’t see them on the same level as a pet like cats or dogs. There aren’t only issues of reckless breeding when it comes to hamsters. Many of them end up killed due to carelessness of a family or even sadist kids left unsupervised by their parents. And people don’t care because they’re “just a little pet to give Timmy when he turns 8!” (Please note, I’m not referencing feeding the animal to a reptile. While I couldn’t do it, it’s still the circle of life and so I have no comment. The people I’m complaining about are the ones who purchase these animals purely to torture them or to neglect them. I’m pretty sure it happens with rodents more than anything else.)
Also, stay strong girl. You are way more strong than I ever could be. When I lost my two pet rats, my baby boys, after two years, I was absolutely devastated. I wanted more, they really were the best little pets, but I could not take that heartache every couple years. It would absolutely destroy me. Good for you for continuing to give these animals good lives in spite of how hard it must have to be.
Hi, Munchie. I’m a first time hamster parent. Where I have previously parented gerbils, rats, & mice, this is the first time hamsters have come to live with me. So, here’s my story...
On 10/3/19 I adopted 2 female pups that were 4 weeks old. They came from a family, whom I understood, were not adequately supervising the 10 & 12 year old children that the hamsters were purchased for, so there was “unintentional breeding”. I wasn’t given much more information than that & didn’t even realize at that point that there are so many breeds, much less that each breed has very specific needs for their care. It took me researching hamster care to realize I hadn’t gotten nearly enough information from the previous owners.
About 5 weeks later, the same family asked if I would adopt some more pups from another litter. I agreed to adopt 2 more females, but by then I knew they were Syrians & felt I had a better handle on what I needed to provide for them. At that point I felt I had things under control.....
About a week after that, the same family asked me to take a pregnant female... I agreed, because otherwise this pregnant baby would have been THROWN OUT WITH THE TRASH in negative 14 degree Fahrenheit cold... THAT IS 46 DEGREES BELOW FREEZING!!!!! (insert several tears & many deep breaths here) Mama gave birth within HOURS of her arrival... I'm not exactly sure how many pups she had initially, but there were 8 males 4 females that came from that litter... To say the least, the boys were separated from the group at 6 weeks...
Let’s do the math... 2 + 2 + 1 + 12 = 17 Syrian hamsters... Each requiring separate accommodations...
Munchie, I am overwhelmed... I am in Alaska & there are no rescues for these types of animals in this area. I simply don’t have the space to give each of these precious creatures adequately sized enclosures, but I really am doing my best. To date, I've spent well over $1,000 creating enclosures that I can fit in my apartment, but each baby only has 248 square inches. (That dollar amount includes bins, mesh, 14” wheels, 6 ounce water bottles, hideys, & chews for EACH of the 17 hamsters.)
I’m not sharing this to garner kudos/praise for what I'm doing, because I honestly don’t think I'm doing enough for these amazing creatures. I’m sharing this to support your message, PLEASE DO NOT BREED YOUR HAMSTERS!
Having had literal colonies of female gerbils & mice in the past, I honestly didn’t realize how different the care for hamsters would be. I can claim initial ignorance, but the information is readily available. I am in over my head & I know it, but I will continue to do what I can do to provide for these babies as best as I can.
My hat is off to you. You have done what I wanted to do 25 years ago... You are providing refuge for animals that aren’t necessarily considered worthy of such care in our society, & you are providing them with real care. Thank you.
You're an angel, You rescued them and gave them a happy, comfortable home, They are not in pain now, Thank you for making them at least comfortable in this situation. You're a great person 💕
I’m so so so sorry Munchie. I cried
So hard during this video. I can’t even imagine what this must feel like.
I’ll be praying for you and the hammys! ❤️💕
My very first hamster came from my boyfriend's younger sister who decided to breed hamsters together to get more.
...she was the oldest of her litter when she passed at 1 yr 7 months. One sister passed of pyrometra. Two of her brothers had seizures. It was the saddest thing Ive seen. This is why I will always have a spot open for a rescue hamster from Craigslist or wherever.
My first hamster lived the average lifespan of a winter white. His last day, I found him struggling to breath, and I knew his time was coming soon for about a week as he was slowing down a lot and was older. I held him against my chest and pet him softly until he past away peacefully. It was such a hard day. I can’t imagine losing a hamster so young so unnaturally.
Those hamsters that passed away had the best life that you could give them. I'm sure that they were grateful for everything that you did for them and they loved you too.
I saved my hamster from my housemate, she's my world so to hear this sorry is heart breaking, I'm so so sorry
Those poor hamster, this broke my heart. I'm now worried about those pups that got rehomed before you got them. Cause a lot of people don't bother to take their small pets to the vet sadly. Also, Munchie, you deserve a big hug for all you've done for these little guys. 💜
You should contact that family and explain to them what their negligence has done.
Munchie, you truly care about these animals and have done your best.
At least you gave them the best life possible. They may not have lived long but you gave them a safe and loved life in your home.
My cousin’s neighbor had a bunch of animals in a small apartment that they barely did anything with , they had hamster they didn’t care to even try to separate and kept breeding and they decided to keep them
But surrendered their ferrets to me , ferrets that didn’t know how to handle being touched since they were never handled, I regularly rescue and rehome animals and situations like this always make me mad
Munchie I'm so sorry. This honesty really pisses me. The ignorance that has those sweet babies to loose their lives, makes me sad. Those babies never did anything wrong, besides being born. They can't help It. Why do people think that it is ok to breed two totally random animals? I can't even try to imagine breeding two hamsters for no other reason then I want more. It's so selfish. I really appreciate what you do. Thank you for doing what you do. I know it can be hard.
Munchie if you see this, I'd like you to know you do amazing work and have helped so many that would be lost without you.
Despite how sad the video is, it's really beautiful that someone cares so deeply for these animals. My heart goes out to you for taking these animals in and fighting so incredibly hard for their health
Thank you so much for doing all you do for these animals as well as educating the public on their proper care. You’re right, it takes a strong will and heart to rescue. Please keep doing what you’re doing. 💕
I cried with you munchie. no one should EVER go through this. We will always be there with you. Yes I may me young but YOU always inspire me to adopt and give the right care. YOU are the one that saved my mouse's life at the humane Society because she was gonna die. YOU inspired me to save her. Thank you 🙏💕
These poor things...
You're brave for keeping it together in such a stressful situation.. I hope the rest of the hamsters are healthy enough to be adopted and have a long, happy life and no more passaway.
You're doing amazing, munchie. Keep doing the amazing work you're doing ❤
I drove one hours to pick up my little boys from a couple who were looking to rehome. They asked why I bothered driving an hour when i could of gone to a pet shop 😪 his I why I now have 4 hamsters I can't say no to helping them
I wanted to reach through the screen and hug you so badly when I heard your voice break. Even though I have no interest in having hamsters of my own in the future, I still find your videos very informative and entertaining. I also hope that people hear you out whenever it comes to more sensitive topics. Breeding's definitely no joke, and should be left to people who know what they're doing!
My brother has to take seizure medication and he HATES it because it tastes so bad.
Poor Saturn
You're so brave and strong! Thank you for doing this and being so kind to the small animals in need. You're doing great work.
So sorry! The yawns and the sleeping one was so cute! Backyard breeding in general is horrible. It's the same for dogs too.
Thank you for everything you're doing. Rescuing these little guys and keeping people informed, I love it. I'm sorry you and the little guys have to go through this.
Hey Munchie, don't know if you'll see this, but I really just wanted to thank you for everything you're doing. Not only are you helping those in need, but educating people with the power to hopefully make sure no other animal has to suffer due to ignorance. Your videos have been a huge inspiration and help when I began my own hamster journey back in 2018. I watched your videos to absorb all the knowledge I could before I got a hamster.
He's living happily in a 40 gallon terrarium with huge rat hides and an enormous Wodent Wheel. It was people like you who educated me and allowed me to make the right decisions to create such a wonderful life for this creature. The idea that I could have mistakenly put him in a critter trail due to ignorance makes me shiver. But luckily, I came across wonderful people like you.
I work in a pet store, the same one I got my hamster from, and thanks to these videos I'm considered the 'Hamster Expert' among my coworkers. I don't approve of where the hamsters come from, but I find comfort in knowing that I can educate families on how to care for their new pet. I want these animals to have a good life, and I'm able to do that thanks to you.
You are putting your heart and soul into the rehabilitation of these animals, and it's nothing but admirable. You have my eternal thanks for everything you've done, and I wish you the best of luck and happiness in the future.
(I think Pinto Bean is thanking you too, I can hear him scuttling around in his burrow behind me)
Munchie, you are doing great work. I am so sorry for the stress you and the hammies have gone through. Thank you for giving them the best care they can have. Please take time if you need it for mental health. ❤
This is so heartbreaking. Bless you for taking in these poor babies and getting them medical treatment and trying to give them the best life possible. ❤️
You have such a big heart and I truly admire your compassion for animals. Thank you for spreading awareness on this issue.
I'm so sorry for those little hammys. I'm also sorry you had to go through all this. You're doing good work, I'm sending hugs from my rats and me. May all the other siblings be healthy and safe.
This is the reason I decided to adopt hamsters via marktplaats (the dutch craigslist kind of site) instead of pet stores. I got my first hamster from someone who had an accidental litter, she is a female tortoise shell Syrian hamster and she's almost 2 years old now. I then got a small male roborovski dwarf from a pet store, they needed him gone because of the hot weather so he was free which means the store didn't get any money of of him. He passed away in the beginning of February he was about 1 and a half years old. Then I adopted a little black colored winter white dwarf who passed away the beginning of this month, I only had her for a month and I was told she was 10 weeks old but when she passed and I got to look really close she looked to be much older so I'm 99% sure I've been lied to. I do still have a rescued female Syrian who has a little bit of trouble when it comes to bladder control, luckily I have vets for teachers and they told me that it was fine but I do need to keep an eye on her in case anything changes. I now have room for 1 dwarf hamster and I am patiently waiting till I find one close to me, I'm 17 so my parents have to drive me around. I am very close to getting my driver's license though but I first have to go through surgery myself the 19th.
Losing animals like this because of bad breeding is the worst feeling but exactly the reason I want to take care of animals. We all need to spread awareness so that this doesn't happen.
Me, my 2 hamsters, 2 Guinea pigs (also rescues) and my pupper all send you love and the extra strength you need to keep going!
Good luck with your surgery, hope all goes well!
@@mormornie Thank you! I'm sure it will :D
I got my current hamster, Toph, from adoption at PetSmart, he's a few months old, and he is blind. As in, he doesn't have any eyes at all. It's just skin on both sides, I believe that he's like that because of bad breeding. Thankfully, the PetSmart employee actually somewhat knew stuff about hamsters, at least she knew more than other people. But it's so sad that people do this to hamsters. Toph is healthy and happy now though. Poor little hamsters
I've kept ex-battery (caged) chickens since I was 7, and I always think the same when one of them dies (as they sadly have such short lifespans due to the intensity of the abuse they endured). I just lost two of them in the past week and a half, and although I was devastated, I know they had good lives, and are making room for more to come. thank you so, so much for making this video. people need to take serious care when breeding and prioritise the animal's needs over their wants.
I'm sorry you had to go through that munchie. Those poor babies. It's never easy being with a pet in their final moments without knowing if it's their last or not. You've done wonderfully with this little family by showing them the kindness, love, and support that they never would have had. Stay strong.
The way that you care for animals is beautiful.. you are simply a beautiful soul and you actually make a change in the world so thank you 🙏🏻❤️
I'm so sorry you've been through this. It's awful that they suffered, and that you suffered too. I hope this is the worst it gets, even though it's pretty horrible as it is. My heart goes out to you and the little family you're helping.
I'm so sorry. It's awful seeing how much it affects you with the animals. I've always been really sensitive to this type of stuff, too. I don't deal with the loss of animals well. It really takes a strong person to do your type of job, especially seeing people make poor choices that result in unnecessary suffering for innocent beings. I really hope the other hamsters are okay. :(
munchie im so sorry. but im grateful you still gave these hamsters an opportunity and a happy life. you are one in a million
Thank you for doing all that you do. I got a job at a pet store in early July and I can truly say that in doing so I’ve completely changed the course of my life, because it’s opened my eyes to the injustices that small animals, reptiles and fish have to go through and has inspired me to try and change these things. Thank you so much for helping educate people more, we need more people like you.
Thank you so much for all that you do. For caring so much for these lovely creatures and for getting them the care that they need. You have such a hard job...When my dwarf hamster, Elias, passed away last December, I was devastated. I did everything I possibly could for him, but it was his time to go. I understand how scary and horrible it is to see them suffering and feeling like you can't do anything to ease their pain. You are so amazing for continuing to provide care and love for these little creatures who have a rough start in life.
This is a sad video, but It's really touching to see that there's people like you out there that really care and respect this animals and their life. I love you, be strong, you're amazing!
This makes me miss my hammy😢 It'll already be 2 years since he's been gone but he lived a good and happy life. He was almost 4 (3years, 8 months) 😔
Really proud of you for sharing this story.
Never owned hammies but we owned three poorly bred lop rabbits. The first one didnt make his first winter, our little girl had an underbite which is one of the worst things to happen to rodents because they need to file down their teeth, the underbite meant she couldnt file down her teeth. Me and my dad had to learn how to clip her teeth by ourselves and while to them its like clipping your toenails, it was still always so uncomfortable for both parties. Rosie (the little gorl) and her brother Max lived together for maybe three or four years before Max died, and then Rosie died a few months later. I still have pictures both digital and paper of all three, and I still miss them terribly, even after eight years or so afterwards because despite trying my very best to help them, it was a constant battle for their care and they still died too early and while they died quickly I have no doubt they died in pain as I held all three while they passed. Because of their traumatic deaths while I was just a young kid, I will forever have a negativity towards breeding. No animal should ever go through what I watched with my own babies.
when i was little, and i begged my dad for hamsters, rabbits, birds, i'm so glad he said no. i'm so glad he always said no. finding your pet cold is the worst feeling.
❤️🐹 never let anyone tell you what your doing is wrong. Your a smart loving person who cares about hamsters this world needs more people like you not only for hams but for other animals and humans. Anyone who doesn’t agree with this is just ignorant. Don’t listen to them munchie
This made me want to "dig out" both of my hammies (one at a time of course) and just smother them in love and kisses. I DIDNT! but I REALLY wanted to!
I don’t have hamsters but I have a cockatiel that is my child. She is pure and has her own little soul. She hangs out with me everyday , screams for me when she hears my voice . I need her more than she needs me.. Birds and hamsters are so mistreated and not looked after right . Thank you for being their voice !
Hard video to watch but I’m glad you are able to spread awareness on this issue, sending prayers for these hamsters♥️
I’m so sorry about these hamsters. Poor little creatures. This just broke my heart. Thank you for caring so much for them, you’re an angel.
The fact that she actually cried means she actually cares. Most breeders or owners don’t care if their hammies have problems and It’s disgusting to think that people breed LIVING BREATHING animals just for fun .
Munchie, this is incredibly tragic to hear. I'm so sorry that you and especially those hammies are being put through so much torture. I can't imagine how much grief you must be going through right now. You are so, so strong and sturdy for being courageous enough to tell us and share this story with the world. You are a hero, both for these hams and for the rest of us animal lovers. Thank you for giving your all to try and help these hams, you are a model of a truly selfless individual.
I am so sorry this happened. I must admit that I cried a little while watching this video. I have so much respect for you that you do this.
I am sooooo sorry munchie. It is so kind of you to rescue them. thank you for all you do. You always make their lives better. Sorry about the incident with Kenji,