Thank You I've been buying their filament because I couldn't buy the electric tabs separately. This is the second printer I've bought and the first printer came with a 5 rolls of filament and I have not been able to use it . Thank You again Have a nice day.:o)
Just a FYI for those with the Sindoh DP200. Sindoh now has Beta firmware to support open source filament for the DP200. Just open a support ticket (or email them) and ask for the firmware (it will void your warranty if you still have one). It is pretty easy to update and use and very similar to this video.
Correct. I've been using it for a while now and it seems to work fine. Last time I connected with Sindoh they asked me not to share the info publicly, but I'm not sure why they are trying to keep it under wraps at this point.
Hey Bob. Update on my Sindoh filled drama. I told you, or at least I think I told you, that I had a bunch of issues with the Sindoh DP200 I bought on eBay. Extruder jam, machine rebooting constantly, etc. Well, I tried to return it and the seller would not take it back, probably knew of all the issues, in fact I figured out how to print a log and I sent the seller 2 pages, 9 errors per page = 18 errors. eBay's insurance got my money returned and they let you keep the items. So, I still have my $300 printer that was $200 in shipping, got all the $500 back and spent about 10+ hours in breakdown, repairs, and might have it working. I disassembled the entire extruder, a pain. That seemed to solve the jams, or at least so far. The rebooting. Not sure if I solved this as it was intermittent but when it happened the unit would keep rebooting, you would not even see the "please wait while the unit boots" message. I forget the exact wording but it would reboot before hitting that message. Interesting is that if I removed the removable build plate it would always boot up. I contacted Sindoh and they asked me for a pic of the lower plate that the removable plate sits on, strange request. They looked at the pic and said it looked normal then asked for a video of the rebooting, which I sent. They said it is probably something major needing it to be sent for repair. Since the unit would boot up when I removed the bed I flipped it over and I see a 1/4 wide, 3-4 in long scratch that is deep enough and has removed what ever coating is under the bottom of the plate. Perhaps that is making the bed heat unevenly and the mother board is picking this up, or causing some kind of grounding, etc. So, I put a piece of writing paper cut to the size of the bed and placed it between the bottom plate holder and the removable plate. No reboots YET. I asked Sindoh if they had ever seen this, not response yet. Had a run away print head and a strange 1/4 print shift 2 times, perhaps related to my potential fix of the paper between the plates, not sure as it happened only 2 times and has not happened since. Sindoh did send me the firmware for open source filament. I found a couple recommendations for you. This is for both open source filament and even Sindoh brand filament loaded in the cassette. It seems important that when unloading either the filament in the cassette or filament on the spool via open source that you feel where the wheels of the extruder grabbed the filament and cut ALL of that away. A couple times I thought I had a near jam because the filament had already been scored by the extruder gears. And this also goes for filament unloaded in the cassette. Cut all that away which is a waste of about 7 inches of filament BUT worth the waste as disabling the extruder, gears etc. was a pain. Also it seems like a great idea to make sure that the initial filament in the load cycle of open source is nice and straight to give a clean and easy load. Once I think I had a bend in the filament, not a kink but a bend and I heard a little trouble with the extruder grabbing. Also, as you say, it seems extremely important to follow the unloading directions when unloading open source filament. Bed adhesion. On the first layer, I am not getting great adhesion, then when the print is complete the adhesion is almost too good. I blame this on a bed that needs to be replaced. A few small chunks, some scratches and as I mentioned the underneath of the bed has a scratch. So I have ordered a replacement and I might take this one and do your flexible plate experiment. I am getting some fairly decent prints, not as good as the prints I get from my Dobot MOOZ but fairly decent and very acceptable. And I can't complain as the machine cost me nothing, although time is money and I am about 10-15 hours into man hour labor in fixing and diagnosing the machine. So, that's my update.
This video was great!!! .....I guess if you are not using the smart chip...you have to keep adding the amount of materials (grams) including the scraped ..to know how much material you have used....or maybe I can design using an Arduino...and some rollers...so that I can measure the length of material used... what do you think? Again keep the good work!!! Thanks.
Never really thought about it. I guess my initial thought would be to weigh the new full spool and then weigh it after the first print knowing how much length you used and do some math to predict the estimated remaining length based on remaining weight. There is probably some more complicated math you can do base on the filament diameter and cross sectional era and length and density of filament, but it's not worth it to me to go there. :D
Seems odd that you first remove the filament from the extruder, cut it at an angle, then reinsert it into the extruder only to have it be removed immediately. The only reason I can imagine is that they are concerned about blobs or strings getting stuck in the tube closer to the spool.
Yes, that is precisely why they have it go through those steps as I mentioned in the video. As the filament retracts through the gearing/motor near the spool, a large blob on the end could get caught and jam the feeder. I've had it apart on several of my models and it's really not a job for the average Joe as there are some clips and sensors that have to be oriented correctly when reassembling. I work around it but it is safer to do the suggested method.
Hi! I have a Sindoh wox 1 and I'm trying to use an open material option for my filament but I can't find this options on my menu. Do you have idea on how to activate open material option. I already tried to update my firmware and still no changes. Thanks
Check out the Facebook Group "Sindoh 3D Printers Support for Beginners & Pro's - DP200, 3DWOX 1, 1X & 2X" (facebook.com/groups/593946721288877) and post your request.
We have been trying for days to get the Sindoh to work with 3rd party filament and it keeps breaking in the middle of the prints. We are not very experienced with the printer (we work at a school and the person who used them left leaving us no support), but we need to print student projects soon. What kind of things can we try to keep this from happening?
Assuming you are running a 3DWOX1 model which supports third-party filaments (open source) per the menu option setting I show in this video? I never leave the filament in the printer when not actively printing. The reason is because after several days at rest the filament is pinched at the same spot in the black rubber rollers inside the filament cartridge creating a dry and weak spot. Then when the printing starts, the filament usually runs a bit then breaks off inside the machine creating a hassle. I always keep the filament cartridge stored in a zip loc bag outside the printer and manually spin the gear on the cartridge and cut off and waste the first 12-15" of filament to avoid this issue. Filament should be stored with desiccant in a sealed bag with minimal air. You may have bad filament and need to buy fresh. Another thought is that an oversized filament spool is dragging due to too wide or too big. See my video here on increasing the spool width area with 3D printed spacers: czcams.com/video/NO61F7ka2rk/video.html Visit the Facebook group I help moderate for more questions: facebook.com/groups/593946721288877
@@AllThingsBobot Yes, we followed all your videos. The problem is that we had just put the filament in as opposed to using it after it was left in the machine for awhile. It was a brand new reel. We are so confused why things break in the middle. It was a PLA, maybe there was an issue with temperature. Even our other machine, we put in a Sindoh filament and it broke about halfway through the print. Since it is a school printer, we can't just sit there throgh a 13 hour print.
@@patriciadueck8501 You tried another printer so it's not a fault with the printer. I'm confused though. You say you are using SIndoh filament, but you talk about 3rd party filament. Are you using the Sindoh filament in the SIndoh cartridge in cartridge mode on the printer? Are you using non-Sindoh filament in the Open Source setting mode? Are you trying to using SIndoh brand filament without the cartridge as Open Source? In any case, filament can get old and brittle even unused and some of the SIndoh filament has been around for 7+ years now. Why not try to buy some Amazon or Hatchbox or other 1.75mm PLA 3rd party filament online and try that in Open Source mode as a troubleshooting step?
@@AllThingsBobot I guess I was unclear. We have 2 of the Sindoh printers. We were experimenting with them and trying to deduce why the filament was breaking and essentially trying to learn how to use the printers. In one printer we used Sindoh filament, in the other 3rd party. We have purchased brand new filament that is supposedly a good quality and we'll try it next. The Sindoh filament is only about 3 years old and the other filament was older but vacuum packed. I guess we'll just keep trying. Thanks.
You may have a DP200 model, which does not support open source filaments in the stock firmware. Check out the Facebook Group "Sindoh 3D Printers Support for Beginners & Pro's - DP200, 3DWOX 1, 1X & 2X" (facebook.com/groups/593946721288877) for information.
@@cesaryu2858 It may be that your printer is a Mimaki which appears to be a co-branded machine with Sindoh but probably uses non-Sindoh firmware. Create a support account with Sindoh at this link and ask them if your model is able to be upgraded to their 3DWOX1 firmware to allow open source. 3dprinter.sindoh.com/en/sign-in
Thanks, mate! You just unlocked my world.
Cool...thanks, and enjoy.
I performed the upgrade this morning and it works flawlessly. Thanks again for a great solution!!
Thank You I've been buying their filament because I couldn't buy the electric tabs separately. This is the second printer I've bought and the first printer came with a 5 rolls of filament and I have not been able to use it . Thank You again Have a nice day.:o)
Glad I could help!
Just a FYI for those with the Sindoh DP200. Sindoh now has Beta firmware to support open source filament for the DP200. Just open a support ticket (or email them) and ask for the firmware (it will void your warranty if you still have one). It is pretty easy to update and use and very similar to this video.
Correct. I've been using it for a while now and it seems to work fine. Last time I connected with Sindoh they asked me not to share the info publicly, but I'm not sure why they are trying to keep it under wraps at this point.
Is it also available for the DP201?
link to firmware?
Hey Bob. Update on my Sindoh filled drama. I told you, or at least I think I told you, that I had a bunch of issues with the Sindoh DP200 I bought on eBay. Extruder jam, machine rebooting constantly, etc. Well, I tried to return it and the seller would not take it back, probably knew of all the issues, in fact I figured out how to print a log and I sent the seller 2 pages, 9 errors per page = 18 errors. eBay's insurance got my money returned and they let you keep the items. So, I still have my $300 printer that was $200 in shipping, got all the $500 back and spent about 10+ hours in breakdown, repairs, and might have it working. I disassembled the entire extruder, a pain. That seemed to solve the jams, or at least so far. The rebooting. Not sure if I solved this as it was intermittent but when it happened the unit would keep rebooting, you would not even see the "please wait while the unit boots" message. I forget the exact wording but it would reboot before hitting that message. Interesting is that if I removed the removable build plate it would always boot up. I contacted Sindoh and they asked me for a pic of the lower plate that the removable plate sits on, strange request. They looked at the pic and said it looked normal then asked for a video of the rebooting, which I sent. They said it is probably something major needing it to be sent for repair. Since the unit would boot up when I removed the bed I flipped it over and I see a 1/4 wide, 3-4 in long scratch that is deep enough and has removed what ever coating is under the bottom of the plate. Perhaps that is making the bed heat unevenly and the mother board is picking this up, or causing some kind of grounding, etc. So, I put a piece of writing paper cut to the size of the bed and placed it between the bottom plate holder and the removable plate. No reboots YET. I asked Sindoh if they had ever seen this, not response yet. Had a run away print head and a strange 1/4 print shift 2 times, perhaps related to my potential fix of the paper between the plates, not sure as it happened only 2 times and has not happened since. Sindoh did send me the firmware for open source filament.
I found a couple recommendations for you. This is for both open source filament and even Sindoh brand filament loaded in the cassette. It seems important that when unloading either the filament in the cassette or filament on the spool via open source that you feel where the wheels of the extruder grabbed the filament and cut ALL of that away. A couple times I thought I had a near jam because the filament had already been scored by the extruder gears. And this also goes for filament unloaded in the cassette. Cut all that away which is a waste of about 7 inches of filament BUT worth the waste as disabling the extruder, gears etc. was a pain. Also it seems like a great idea to make sure that the initial filament in the load cycle of open source is nice and straight to give a clean and easy load. Once I think I had a bend in the filament, not a kink but a bend and I heard a little trouble with the extruder grabbing. Also, as you say, it seems extremely important to follow the unloading directions when unloading open source filament.
Bed adhesion. On the first layer, I am not getting great adhesion, then when the print is complete the adhesion is almost too good. I blame this on a bed that needs to be replaced. A few small chunks, some scratches and as I mentioned the underneath of the bed has a scratch. So I have ordered a replacement and I might take this one and do your flexible plate experiment.
I am getting some fairly decent prints, not as good as the prints I get from my Dobot MOOZ but fairly decent and very acceptable. And I can't complain as the machine cost me nothing, although time is money and I am about 10-15 hours into man hour labor in fixing and diagnosing the machine. So, that's my update.
Appreciate the video really helped me out
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much. It was indeed a great help!
cheers
Cool 3D printer!!!
this is why i love youtube!
This video was great!!! .....I guess if you are not using the smart chip...you have to keep adding the amount of materials (grams) including the scraped ..to know how much material you have used....or maybe I can design using an Arduino...and some rollers...so that I can measure the length of material used... what do you think? Again keep the good work!!! Thanks.
Never really thought about it. I guess my initial thought would be to weigh the new full spool and then weigh it after the first print knowing how much length you used and do some math to predict the estimated remaining length based on remaining weight. There is probably some more complicated math you can do base on the filament diameter and cross sectional era and length and density of filament, but it's not worth it to me to go there. :D
Did you try print with flexible filament on wox1?
Seems odd that you first remove the filament from the extruder, cut it at an angle, then reinsert it into the extruder only to have it be removed immediately. The only reason I can imagine is that they are concerned about blobs or strings getting stuck in the tube closer to the spool.
Yes, that is precisely why they have it go through those steps as I mentioned in the video. As the filament retracts through the gearing/motor near the spool, a large blob on the end could get caught and jam the feeder. I've had it apart on several of my models and it's really not a job for the average Joe as there are some clips and sensors that have to be oriented correctly when reassembling. I work around it but it is safer to do the suggested method.
Hi! I have a Sindoh wox 1 and I'm trying to use an open material option for my filament but I can't find this options on my menu. Do you have idea on how to activate open material option. I already tried to update my firmware and still no changes. Thanks
Check out the Facebook Group "Sindoh 3D Printers Support for Beginners & Pro's - DP200, 3DWOX 1, 1X & 2X" (facebook.com/groups/593946721288877) and post your request.
We have been trying for days to get the Sindoh to work with 3rd party filament and it keeps breaking in the middle of the prints. We are not very experienced with the printer (we work at a school and the person who used them left leaving us no support), but we need to print student projects soon. What kind of things can we try to keep this from happening?
Assuming you are running a 3DWOX1 model which supports third-party filaments (open source) per the menu option setting I show in this video? I never leave the filament in the printer when not actively printing. The reason is because after several days at rest the filament is pinched at the same spot in the black rubber rollers inside the filament cartridge creating a dry and weak spot. Then when the printing starts, the filament usually runs a bit then breaks off inside the machine creating a hassle. I always keep the filament cartridge stored in a zip loc bag outside the printer and manually spin the gear on the cartridge and cut off and waste the first 12-15" of filament to avoid this issue. Filament should be stored with desiccant in a sealed bag with minimal air. You may have bad filament and need to buy fresh. Another thought is that an oversized filament spool is dragging due to too wide or too big. See my video here on increasing the spool width area with 3D printed spacers: czcams.com/video/NO61F7ka2rk/video.html Visit the Facebook group I help moderate for more questions: facebook.com/groups/593946721288877
@@AllThingsBobot Yes, we followed all your videos. The problem is that we had just put the filament in as opposed to using it after it was left in the machine for awhile. It was a brand new reel. We are so confused why things break in the middle. It was a PLA, maybe there was an issue with temperature. Even our other machine, we put in a Sindoh filament and it broke about halfway through the print. Since it is a school printer, we can't just sit there throgh a 13 hour print.
@@patriciadueck8501 You tried another printer so it's not a fault with the printer. I'm confused though. You say you are using SIndoh filament, but you talk about 3rd party filament. Are you using the Sindoh filament in the SIndoh cartridge in cartridge mode on the printer? Are you using non-Sindoh filament in the Open Source setting mode? Are you trying to using SIndoh brand filament without the cartridge as Open Source? In any case, filament can get old and brittle even unused and some of the SIndoh filament has been around for 7+ years now. Why not try to buy some Amazon or Hatchbox or other 1.75mm PLA 3rd party filament online and try that in Open Source mode as a troubleshooting step?
@@AllThingsBobot I guess I was unclear. We have 2 of the Sindoh printers. We were experimenting with them and trying to deduce why the filament was breaking and essentially trying to learn how to use the printers. In one printer we used Sindoh filament, in the other 3rd party. We have purchased brand new filament that is supposedly a good quality and we'll try it next. The Sindoh filament is only about 3 years old and the other filament was older but vacuum packed. I guess we'll just keep trying. Thanks.
My unit does not have a icon for open filiment. Could you help me on this.
You may have a DP200 model, which does not support open source filaments in the stock firmware. Check out the Facebook Group "Sindoh 3D Printers Support for Beginners & Pro's - DP200, 3DWOX 1, 1X & 2X" (facebook.com/groups/593946721288877) for information.
@@AllThingsBobot My unit is 3Dff-222
@@cesaryu2858 It may be that your printer is a Mimaki which appears to be a co-branded machine with Sindoh but probably uses non-Sindoh firmware. Create a support account with Sindoh at this link and ask them if your model is able to be upgraded to their 3DWOX1 firmware to allow open source. 3dprinter.sindoh.com/en/sign-in
@@AllThingsBobot Thank you..... already email waiting for their reply.
is it possible to replace the Mainboard to have this open material? where to buy this mainboard?
Where to get the printable spacer file?
See the link in the description of this video: czcams.com/video/NO61F7ka2rk/video.html
hi! is this possible for the 3Dwox dp 200?
As far as I know the DP200 still uses chipped proprietary filament. The 3DWOX1 added open source filaments.