@@itsnotukulele9864 btw it’s a show in tv anything can happen like a last minute save so house wouldn’t get fired like exactly what happened in the video
What I love about House's outburst here is you could take it one of two ways. 1. He's upset because he feels guilty. He believes he's at fault and has a sense of 'needing' to be punished for it. When the man backs out of punishing him, House is angry because he now has to process this guilt normally rather than through suffering for it. 2. He's angry because he believes he was right, and this other man decided that he was right not on the basis of the inherent value or merit to his decision, but rather on someone else coming in and breaking the other guy's resolve with a 'sob story' about how House's decision ended up being right. He hates the sentiment, and not merit, is what tipped the balance in his favor.
I would say it's a bit of both. He knows he's right and wants others to know that too, not because of a sob story, but because it's the truth, because he IS a brilliant doctor with unconventional ways that work. However, he also knows he's (at least partially) at fault for setting up that incident in the first place, and needs to be punished for it.
@@AzureKyle Problem is that all of the three initial answers were wrong. If House had come up with the right diagnosis sooner the incident would not have happened in the first place. But maybe he liked the thought of 3 different theories, one test so much, he stopped looking for a fourth possibility. That would mean House was so caught up in his mind games, that it had hampered his judgement. If House realise this then by his own logic he did not operate how he should have and was to blame.
@@barthoving2053 You must be new. Three or more theories before the correct one is the norm to this show. The mentality House always had was to fully commit to the most likely correct theory until it is evident that it is not correct, or it works. The mind games are not new, and neither is House's ability to process cases effectively in parallel. His epiphany happens in the middle of a very important situation for him, when his freedom is at stake and he still walks out because, answer in hand, he commits to it and needs to see it through. The only time House was ever really distracted was when he was on Methadone.
House is always expecting a bigger punishiment so he doesn't have to deal with his emotions or the other person, its like when Amber died, he also wanted to be dead so he doesn't have to deal with Wilson.
It wasn't House's fault to begin with. Taub said it perfectly in this episode. They knew that the guy was unstable and potentially psychotic... but he still chose to go near him with a scalpel, without him being restrained, against House's orders.
@@AtotehZ If he was any other doctor this could be true, but it was House, the same House that always encourage their employees to defy him, and yes, Chase did what he did, but that is what House have teached them, "fight for what you belive" and that kind of enviroment is what lead to this outcome, even House know this and that is why he apologieze at the end of the episode.
@@megalodon2831 no need for apologies the only word that needs to be changed is teached, to taught. otherwise it makes perfect sense. and yes house intentionally set a competitive environment so that he could have multiple points of view in order for his methods to work. while such a thing is terrible if you want a cohesive team, house wasnt making a team but a tool for him to use to do his job, if the "wetware" happened to learn a thing or two or not at all was not his his concern.
I don't think this was due to feeling any guilt or insecurity. This man was here to determine fault. Chase got stabbed in the heart by a patient. There are people at fault here, that doesn't "just happen". Whether it's all of them or the patient, who knows, but somebody or a group was at fault. A weapon was brought into the hands of a room of a patient with a potential psychotic reaction - who had previously had a psychotic reaction enough to warrant the protection. House wanted the answer, like he always wanted the answer. Cofield had all the data, all the notes, all the files, all the testimony - and he exhaustively examined the situation from every angle. House doesn't have that information or that management training. House can't determine this answer because he's not objective - it's not his job. Cofield withheld judgment. Who was at fault here? Foreman was at fault. The methods in which House operates are under his management and it is tolerated. Walter Cofield should have condemned House's practice - any ethics committee could list his unsafe violations just recorded on those notes. A spring loaded confetti bomb inside a licensed medication for pain in a hospital, where surgery's happen, many of which House goes into? Cofield held back because of his relationship with Foreman. It was Foreman who brought him in hoping he'd get leniency - and he did - when really Foreman should've been condemned for allowing these practices in the first place. House and his team - individual citations and reprimands for grievances. It's these same practices that end up destroying an MRI at the hospital which leads to House being ordered back to prison. Had Cofield intervened here and enforced discipline, however he could have, he might've deterred that fate. He might've stopped that MRI from exploding. Cofield was no doubt capable, his interviews telling, and their accounts all yielded problems worthy of scrutiny. House isn't doing this out of guilt or insecurity. This man Cofield has been selected to determine fault - and he isn't doing it. The math here is easy, there's a dozen roads he could've taken, a dozen faults identified, a dozen regulations cited... some of which might not have put House in jail but fixed these issues. These are administrative issues and saving patients does not justify their actions retroactively. House didn't want to be punished because he felt he did something wrong. He wanted to know what was done wrong by a committee designed to correct this behavior. Sure, he might've existentially benefited from the answer, but this didn't come from there. House's worst, and best, quality is an intolerance of ignorance. Cofield chose ignorance and that lights House right up. If he could he'd dissect that file for an hour with an autopsy as rigorous as could possibly be done to find this answer... if he didn't know already that Cofield's methods aren't as exhaustive as his interrogation techniques. This is why in the subsequent scene, he immediately goes to Chase - the only person who witnessed all of it, and has a grievance to cite and the insight on the patient who stabbed him. House admits he was at fault - though this doesn't exonerate Foreman. It's just House's belief he's at fault, and he is at fault, since he's been manipulating Foreman for years... but he goes to Chase because he doesn't know. Chase being the closest doctor to House in almost every way, he goes to the only other person who had the means of determining the truth. Even this acquittal is in direct result of his manipulation of Foreman, who chose a doctor incapable of completing a judgment. Foreman very likely knew this wouldn't come back on him. It isn't a feeling of guilt - it's an actual intellectual suspicion of guilt, but worse, an absolute need to determine guilt. When House drove a car into Cuddy's house - he didn't feel guilty or insecure at all. He went to a nice beach and drank. He divides his team and encourages them to break rules, break protocol and advocate for their treatments risking their own lives. That's unethical. He's never presumed to operate otherwise - and in this specific instance he induced a psychotic episode in a patient and did not secure them in any way - a fault of not attending his patient. No security measures were put in place - forget chase, this man could've gotten up and stabbed half the hospital if he chose to. Foreman once nearly fell victim to this same situation and ended up in a dangerous quarantine for similar reasons. House has faults - but pursuing the truth is one much higher than potential emotional reactions. If you want to go after him, search for something greater than emotional pettiness. House's greatest fault is an inability to use that enlightenment to any meaningful end. Here Chase is in pain and House ignores it to get an answer - and has a rare opportunity to share his years long rehabilitation efforts with Chase. Instead he pursues answers to inane questions instead of saying, "It's my fault" and quitting immediately. House should not be in a position of power and he knows it - and his hypocrisy is destroying him in that rabid pursuit of truth. This is why the last line of the show is him proclaiming, "Cancer's boring"... because relinquishing that search gives him the opportunity to actually pursue meaningful truths rather than simply finding value in finding the truth. Gotta punch higher with House, he's a brilliant character - and I'm not talking about his intelligence. Just because he has emotions doesn't mean they corrupt his integrity. His corruption is much loftier than an emotional response. It's an intellectual addiction. Way more penetrating. "The need to be right". It's why his leg perpetually bothers him - a medical puzzle in which there's no answer, an endless pursuit in which to lose his mind in attempting to solve. That's just to list one contender, we could circle several others, House is not beyond reproach in any way. I'm not defending him against reproach at all, he's fraught with flaws that would objectively get him fired in almost any medical field. It just belittles his overall ethos entirely to relegate him to a set of emotional constructs when he has more objective and known obsessions in which to point to. But if you want to find his very worst fault... it runs much deeper. I'm not gonna claim to identify it, but if you take that all, and contrast it with "Everybody Lies"... there's a misanthropic vision there potentially just as dangerous as his obsession. A sincere disbelief in his fellow humans ability to create, perceive, or interpret the truth - and in himself. Everybody is everybody after all. Take your pick - both that reckless pursuit of inane truths and misanthropic vision... both way worse qualities. But hey - those are just two. He's a walking talking snowball of contradictions to pick from. I'm just throwing darts at obvious suspects.
It is a shame that so few people pick up on the fact that House does care, but he has a very hard time showing it, and seems afraid to. He's in constant, nigh unbearable pain, under frequent stress, and seems to be afraid to show his heart. After all, when you show your heart, someone may reach to break it. It's hard to be hurt when you push everyone away.
If someone cant pick that up then they werent paying attention at all. Almost every ( if not every ) episode Wilson or somebody else says that House always cares. He calls Wilson rationalization man but fact of the matter is Wilson is always right calling out the real rational reason why House did something. House always deflects when giving a reason, but as i said almost every episode someone calls out House's bullshit and reveals he cares, he is just unable ( or rather unwilling ) to show it in a not tough love way.
I remember the ep where Foreman's like teacher during his residence or something? Came over with one of his patient and offer Foreman a job. He talk to Chase and Camaron about how he wanted house to care. Then later in the ep House was like "He think you do your job and what happens happens. But I think what we do matters. 'He sleeps better at night, he shouldn't'' And really hit to Foreman which of them really cares.
What did House actually do wrong though? Based on these clips it seems like the attack was Chase's fault for trying to perform an unauthorized sample collection involving a scalpel.
@@every116 It's because of the "environment" that house has cultivated for his workers that leads to them being willing to take risks or go against what they are told to do. Reason White House is under trial in the first place
Recall Foreman when the team was split up. He went to a new hospital, gained a possession like House's, and then he pulled a House. He was fired for it, and no other hospital would dare hire him because they don't want a House. House does create more Houses in the people he gets close to. Even Cuddy was affected by him. So when it finally came to result in one of those people getting hurt, House was ready to be punished for it while maintaining his usual attitude.
It wasn't that. It was because he knew he would've gone to prison if that guy had stuck to his guns, but he didn't he changed his mind because of his emotions not his reasoning. House was responsible for fostering that environment, but for the right reasons. =he did the right thing which dosen't mean that he's not responsible for chase being stabbed. Had the guy done "the right thing" from his view be would've followed through regardless oh House being brilliant.
This was such a beautifully crafted episode. Every scene was perfected to the very last detail. It was a dark, gloomy episode and it gave off a grim vibe.
I think they landed at the wrong conclusion. Chase was at fault. Not that I want him fired for it, but he definitely was the person who is to blame for things escalating.
6:30-8:00 is one of my favorite moments in the series. Which is saying a lot considering this is the final season. While not always balanced, House’s stand on what he believes is right and wrong was something I’ve always admire. He knows the stakes of the situation and seen the outcome hurt one of the closest men in his life. His life could change after leaving that room but he was given a pass. He’ll make use of it, but he knows it’s wrong. And that’s what it upsets him. Because if the roles were reversed, he wouldn’t give himself a pass.
I think it's less about his perceived guilt but more about logic and honesty. House can accept the punishment, can respect those he disagrees with - but he can't respect those who can't stick to their guns and change their decisions willy-nilly. He knew that he was being reviewed as a boss not as a doctor and that his behaviour with employees should be reviewed, not his skills as a doctor.
Chase shouldn’t have gone in there with that scalpel. They already had a plan and he deviated which caused him to get stabbed. I know it’s harsh but it’s true.
100%, the thing is the reason why he made that decision. The environment was competitive, and Chase had incentive to be right about his theory and prove it. It’s his fault 100% but House is also at fault for creating an environment where that sort of irrational/ careless behavior is the norm.
@@zachgiovannelli2626 well it is House's fault, but not because it's a "competetive" environment. House haven't raised athletes, he was raising independant and efficent doctors. In his own words these 3 (or 4 or 5) are there not to do his bidding but to make sure House doesn't make a mistake. Instead of solving each case and gathering a flock of subservient sheep that'll do everything he wants he males each and every team member an individual. Half of the time in these episodes is active training in independant, nonconventional and EFFICENT thinking. It isn't a competition to prove something to others, it's training in being right and stubborn to act on said belief.
But house wants to be at fault, and here is the thing: the other doctors are not his children for him to keep protecting them from their respponsabilities
House's character always had to be rationally motivated and focused on solving a puzzle. The writers worked under the rule, "The punishment doesn’t have to fit the crime, but there has to be a crime."👍
My first husband and I watched it religiously,lol. When he passed from a brain aneurysm it was hard to continue watching, but the shorts reminded me of what an awesome show this was.
I've noticed that some of the more competent people whom an organization depends on can be complete a-holes because they are so good at what they do that they are tolerated. I've known people like him in the military from 30 years ago. They were abrasive to most people, including their friends and their personal lives were train wrecks, but they were the ones people depended on and turned to when things got hairy or when a job needed to be done right in a short amount of time. Yeah, they could be disciplined and lose rank, but they were not kicked out unless they were causing more problems than they were worth. House always reminded me of them.
Eh, had the opposite when I was in the Army 2005-2009. Brown Nosers always rose to the top, and it didn't matter who you were if your Chain of Command didn't like you, they'd make your life hell. Left a really bad taste in my mouth.
Most people in House's position would have breathed a sigh of relief. House called him out for going easy on him, proving why House belongs where he is and not in prison.
House... no matter how cold, will always love his team... like a family. He pushes people away because he’s scared he’s going to get hurt/hurt someone else... I just wish he could admit it.
House also wishes he could admit it, but at the same time can't because he can't contradict his own world view of never being wrong. House also says "Everyone lies" while he himself knows he's also a liar, a liar to himself. The things he can't admit.
When I first watched this episode my first thought was that Chase will have difficulty walking again therefore finishing his transformation into House 2.0, turned out he didn't need it.
"But the fact that that would-be widow came in just in time to sob all over your soft, mushy heart over the fact that her husband is gonna live does not change whether or not I did the right thing." "Perhaps you did... perhaps you didn't..... But I know that I just did."
This episode always bothered me because it seems that House is just acting contrarian but he's not. What he's looking for is objective validation. He wants an outsider to come in to tell him that how he acts and what he does is worth it because he saves people. That woman coming in denied him of that possibility.
That's insightful but also consider House does tell Chase he's sorry later and implies it was his fault. Now his anger makes sense. The lady's emotional plea traded a beautifully rational victory for a hollow one.
Or rather there's a part of House that wants humanity to stand for SOMETHING more than just results, just outcome. He was released from prison early because the hospital needed a doctor who can find the answers nobody else could. It all goes back to the story House related in Son of Coma Guy, where he tells the story off the Japanese janitor to whom the medical doctors turn when they're at their wits end. The janitor is an untouchable class, his presence among the venerable doctors stains their prestige, and yet THAT janitor who normally would NOT be allowed to share the same space at the same time as these doctors is tolerated and permitted among them BECAUSE he can produce the answers to the questions no one can solve. In that same way, House is like that janitor. He's abrasive, he's unkempt, he cavorts with hookers (more on this below). House is crass, uncivil, and does NOT respect even a modicum of authority or protocol. In fact, THIS absence of proper protocol his the environment that House cultivated and which produced the dangerous situation where Chase brought a scalpel into a room with an unrestrained patient who may have a psychotic break. And yet, at the end, Dr. Cofield tolerated this because the patient's wife reveals that House produced the right result when NOBODY else could. Cofield's decision meant that ALL THAT MATTERS, and perhaps the ONLY thing that matters to Cofield, to PPTH, to Foreman, to the Parole Board, to society at large...is the outcome, the ability to get the desired result. And this all goes back to House's first disillusionment with the world. It's when he realized his mother was being unfaithful to his domestic father whom House suspected is NOT his biological father. House saw his mother's infidelities while maintaining her marriage to his military father (not his bio dad) as hypocrisy. The military father was harsh, demanding and exacting and (as we learn in One Day, One Room) imposed strict forms of punishment for non-compliance. In a way, House resented that his mother stayed with this harsh not dad, instead of building a life with the man who fathered House. His mother chose practicality over affairs of the heart. Worse still, House later learns that even the man he THOUGHT was his bio dad is NOT. This makes his mother's infidelities even more rampant and her hypocrisy even more extreme. House desperately wants PEOPLE to be about something more than just the desired result/outcome. To rise above biological drives, otherwise, "We are selfish base animals crawling across the earth, but because we got brains, if we try real hard we can occasionally aspire to something that is less than pure evil." (Season 3, Episode 12) SO House flipped when Cofield just abandoned the trajectory and conclusion of his inquiry simply because House produced the desired result! He wants people to stand for something more than simply maneuvering themselves and others to get what they want.
House isn't logical at all times. In fact, it can be argued that he didn't throw logic into the neurologist's face for accuracy's sake, but because he wanted to be punished and "pay" for what he did. Since he wasn't, he felt like he couldn't "get even" with Chase and he now has to actually process his guilt.
I love Foreman but he wanted to see the downfall of House too much. No matter what team was working with him, Foreman was always in the background...just there loool
this scene perfectly depicts house's moral code and his resentement towards anyone who can not stand for what they believe, he is okay with his team members defying him and going against his will even when the worst outcome happens but he can not stomach having his fate decided by someone who is just so easily swayed and who can not stand for what they believe even if the outcome is in his favor.
One thing that House would always look in people is, does a person stand next to its actions and beliefs and would respect them according to that. One of best scenes were you can see that is this one
The punchline of that vicodin bottle exploding with confetti is simple, but the absolute tension leading up to that almost out-of-nowhere pop was hilarious. Such a dreary scene then "Surprise!!!"
Usually when they say it's nobody's it's because it is EVERYBODY'S fault. Fact is, you can't put the total fault on everybody, and you can't blame fate either as it is fate along with their decisions that set everything off in motion. Or at least I think so, I could definitely be wrong. It's always somebody's fault, but the complete blame is not always theirs, rather, it is shared. And that is why it becomes nobody's fault, except fate's, or coincidence
@@irishkniferd9837 Not exactly, because the full blame was not on all of them. It was the decisions of few that led to the ultimate mistake. So they're basically innocent more than they are guilty... which is why I agree with the guy saying "nobody's fault." Happy new year
Could've been prevented by restraining the patient to the bed, since they knew he might've gone crazy. Even without the operation in the room triggering him, you'd still not want to have a crazed patient free to go round the hospital. Being reckless can be fine as long as you have basic safety procedures in place.
Legally they can't actually do that. Forcing restraint on someone requires legal intervention as you are removing their freedom and liberty. You must before restraining someone, prove beyond all reasonable doubt they are a danger to themselves or others, apply the correct legal powers. Not sure what the US version is, but in the UK there is legislation called the mental health act, and form of physical restraint/detianment must be justified under it by meeting very strict requirements. Requirements which none of houses team are capable of determining as they aren't psychiatric dr's.
@@cgi2002 You can restrain a patient who is a danger to themselves or others. The hospital just has to have a valid reason. The difference is just the type of restraints you can use. Soft, hard, etc.
@@stephysteph9538 exactly, and they don't have a legally valid reason prior to this incident, as they must to use restraint 1st have a psychiatric dr assess them, they didn't. General medical staff don't have the legal authority to make a call for restraint except to stop an immediate danger, at which point they lose the legal power to treat the patient further beyond immediate life saving procedures. A psychiatric assessment must take place asap, and the patients next of kin/advocate/whoever holds power to make decisions for them must be contracted, as the patient is no longer legally deemed to have the ability to consent to treatment/testing until the assessment is concluded (even then they may not be deemed to have capacity to make decisions). The laws regarding this are exceptionally strict.
@National Socialism psychosis doesn't automatically need restraint. Many people suffer from psychosis without becoming violent or committing self harm. Also read the side effects on most medications, you'll find a lovely long list that often includes many mental health conditions. By this logic you should be restrained if taking most medication as there is a side effect that could lead you to self harm. The law doesn't work like that. Your not allowed to preemptively remove someone's freedom because of a possibility, you can't be proactive like that. Atleast not without suitable legal reason (which must be approved by existing laws, and the people empowered to enforce that law, they are not medical Dr's), in the UK thats the mental health act, in the US I am not sure what legal setup exists for mental health. In the UK the people needed to remove your freedoms are (it varies depending on circumstance a little) atleast 1 mental health Dr, 1 mental health social worker to start. Mental health consultants will be involved within 72 hours along with additional Dr's, and the entire time mental health nurses & careers would be involved directly with the care of the patient. The patient would be on constant ob's. But that's the UK. The US mental health system is broken beyond reason and the patient would likely have been shot by police or hospital security before recieveing any suitable help had they not managed to sedate him.
The step of procedures in the treatment was to have an experienced mental health specialist be able to assess/evaluate his mental state. They knew the patient had a 1 in 3 chance likelihood of having a psychotic break, and I bet that House had a good idea as to when the patient should become psychotic (plus/minus a certain length of time)... So put a basic risk assessment in place to prevent danger, and tell it to the team prior to starting on the medication, and then request a psych eval in approximately however long. Then they can have a paper trail regarding their diagnostic testing and results.
The actor that plays Dr. Cofield is just an amazing actor when it comes to playing a serious style role. His voice i don't know has just an amazing tone to it that you feel his view at all times. You want to hear more from him.
Chase was at fault. Wife was such a deus ex machina, even House got angry. And what was House was going to go back to prison for? Trusting other people not to be idiots? Guilty as charged, then!
@@captainchaos5705 he didn't encourage any rule breaking in this specific scenario, and didn't break any rules himself, what would the crime be if you teach your son not to stop at stop signs and then he gets pulled over for rolling a stop, do you get a ticket?
@@captainchaos5705 He doesn’t encourage his doctors to do their own tests. Ever. Chase was acting independently, not because House wanted him to, or because House has encouraged that behavior in the past. House always instructs his doctors on which tests to do, it isn’t his responsibility if they disobey him. House’s treatments are risky sure, but I have a hard time believing that patients seek out his expertise without first acknowledging that fact. In universe he is a renowned doctor. Chase was at fault, or even the patient himself for not advocating for himself. Or nobody was.
@@VideoGuy232 The point is that Chase did what House would've done. House at several points says "break Cuddy's rules, not mine" through out the show, either in those or other words. In this episode he was basically the Cuddy while Chase was the House, House had a plan for diagnostic test and Chase went and completely ignored House because he thought his own theory is right, which is exactly what House does in pretty much every episode. House encourages this behavior not by his words but by his own behavior. Chase was absolutely at fault for his own injury, but he acted like House because he learned from House.
Chase was clearly at fault but the "judge" got so focused on house's lack of emotion and not wanting to blame the injured guy led him to blame an innocent party
Copeland's point earlier talking to Chase was the best point he could have made: House makes saving lives a game, defies authority and teaches his employees to defy authority as long as they think they're right. It is that behavior and reinforced behavior that taught Chase to behave like he did and created the environment where it was okay to do it, no matter how reckless it was. It's also why Chase is the one to take House's position when he dies. He took to heart House's methodology more than anyone else.
"He saved my husbands life" that literally does nothing to change what the guy was saying 20 seconds ago, letting House go sends a bad message that as long as you do your job you can be reckless and endanger people in the process
I've commented on the end before but I found another point when House called Dr. Cofield out for backing out on his original judgement. House finally revealed he felt guilty and that gave the final answer Dr. Cofield was looking for, which was, he does care and he is not as callous as he thought he was.
The dude checkmated house. Once you realise he is a self loathing dude he did the greates punishment. He refused to punish him. And let the guilt rest on him as a reminder for when he might choose to be reckless again.
House taught us even viewers to interact with the scenes and this episode in particular in a very broadway. This is a real drama that is too close to reality when everything can be anything. Amazing.
Basically, everyone but Taub and Park was at fault and Cofield led himself be ruled by emotions and appearances. First Chase was at fault exactly for the reasons Taub said. He went to a patient with a possibility of schizophrenia because he believed he was right and put everyone in that room in danger; However, because he's the victim of an attack that almost caused him his life and later movility, he's passed over. Next, Adams is at fault because she was an accessory to Chase's actions; however it wouldn't make sense to put the blame on her and not Chase, she can only be held responsible in conjuntion with him. House is at fault because of the environment he created and encourages in the work place, however this behavior is also accepted by Foreman, who should had been responsible to put a stop to it. Despite his words, Cofield ultimately did "get {Foreman]him out of trouble". In the end he couldn't even do that, going by the optics of punishing House when he saved the patient's life. So yeah, dude went down a long line of guilty people and ended absolving all of them.
Because regardless of who was right or fucking wrong someone almost lost there fucking lives over this it should of ended a long time ago but house decided if they were going to sink then the captain cant abandon ship even if he wanted to he probably knew what happened but cant be sure if anything is real anymore so he didnt care what happened to him just that whoever had felt wronged got the justice they wanted even if he thought he was going to die
I like how everyone is just like naw the dude who stabbed him wasn't at fault no its somebody else fault because they should know better..... like no it's obviously the dude who stabbed hims fault any other blame assignment is really just petty and unnecessary.
@Tangerine Tech Dude was restrained in a hospital clearly having an episode. If a kid gets into an animal cage and gets mauled, you get that the animal did it, but the question is how did the kid get in? Where were the keepers? Where were the parents?
@@tangerinetech5300they gave him medication that would cause a psychotic episode if they were wrong about the diagnosis. Instead of waiting for it to pass before trying another test chase brought a weapon into the room with the patient and put everyone in there in danger. It wasn't the man's fault that his doctors made it so when he would snap that someone was guaranteed to get hurt.
@@atahana3r3rr3 Agreed. While I believe House saw a lot of himself in Chase, and at the end of the series he definitely had a strong respect for Chase as a doctor. 13 was indeed his favorite. Outside of Wilson, no one else understood House as much as 13 did.
@@Regitron3000 Within his team, 13 and Cameron were his favorites, even if he didn't fully acknowledge it. Outside of it, it isn't even necessary to point it out. He literally gave up everything to be with Wilson
Although I wouldn't like to live anywhere near a person like the House's character, I'll have to admit that the ending scene is a great, sincere and admirable attitude, saying the truth in name of what is right, without caring about the consequences under the "civilized" man's law. I hope I'll have the guts to do the same if it comes to happen to me.
I like how in the end they’re both at fault. The diagnostic trial would also confirm Adams’ theory. Chase only wanted to do it because he was pissed at House and wanted to confirm the test results. Chase was only pissed because of the hair dye that House put in Adams shampoo. House told the team that there was a chance of a psychotic episode. Chase decided to do the biopsy while they were waiting for the results. Chase should’ve took that risk seriously and had security/nurses to restrain him.
House is (was) on a perpetual quest for reality, logic and reason. He's looking for that perfect being hoping to find out how reach that perfection and he always comes up disappointed. The closest he ever came was with that detective. He didn't react well to that. Ultimately, highly hypocritical and immature at which point he resorts to tyranny. In the mean time he's also highly entertaining - as someone else's doctor.
House valued people for sticking to their beliefs. Don’t give in because you are overruled but because you are proven wrong. Cofield gave in because house solved the case, yet again, but that doesn’t change if house was guilty or not. And that means house acan not respect cofield and calls him a coward. It’s the same treatment he gives his team.
House values people sticking up for their choices and decisions. When he changed his mind on this case due to an Appeal to Emotion fallacy, thats when House got mad.
Say what you will, House was the only person there not playing politics. He legitimately believed he did all the right things, and even to his detriment, when he felt like the principles they're supposed to be standing for were just left to die, he was the first one to speak up for it.
House's laugh after the popper went off stands out to me. It's a tiny moment but you can tell he's impressed by Chase legitimately surprising him and the fondness for him comes out for a moment. It's such good writing and acting.
I have had the pleasure of watching ALOT of AMAZING TV series in my time....but, The LEVELS OF INTENSITY that House M.D. could reach, are still........... UNMATCHED!!
From what I understand about the show, House has solved hundreds of unique cases. It may take him a few tries but he usually if not always solves them. You’d think with a record like his, people would just shut up and listen to most likely save their or their loved ones life. If I’d heard of his record, I’d let him do things his way to save my life.
People always have something to complain about. No matter how talented you're no matter how much you've helped others they always find something wrong about you.
Sorry.... no.... it was Chase's fault for going off on his own, and bringing a scalpel into a patient's room who, 33.3% chance was suffering severe psychological issues. Something that Taub pointed out when he was questioned in private. Chase was reckless. This would have been a far more powerful episode if that conclusion was reached. Then, give Chase a chance to resign, find work at another hospital after a full recovery, and have the actor portraying him leave the show. The writers squandered a perfect opportunity for an Emmy Winning episode.
*House in Eureka* is a phenomenon wherein Dr. House enters Eureka, zones out 95% from the conversation, starts walking away (to cancel the previous treatment/procedure), throws in a diagnosis metaphor with the remaining 5% attention, and you go, "I'm not done here" or something to the effect of
Foreman ticked me off so much when he became House's boss. Like you worked under him for years and seen everything he's solved, why are you doubting anything he's doing?
When he became Dean, he had to take House into a new perspective. He now had another set of bosses to appease, and those bosses weren't as medical as House. He was acting the same as Cuddy but Cuddy didnt tick you off for 7 seasons? Because shes hot? (Fair enough)
When the vicodin bottle exploded, I realized the top quality of the writers. Even at the late stage of the show. Years before (about 5), when I first finished the series, I felt this big void. I thought the series could've have a better ending for the viewers. And still think so, but the ending is still good. Except for poor Cuddy. She didn't deserve all that.
he wont admit it directly, but House blamed himself in this scenario...he felt like he was liable for what happened. he was probably prepared to be sent back to prison, but, whether or not it was the case, the fact the wife came in and delivered the news his last second diagnosis saved the husband's life deemed him as not guilty or liable for what happened pisses him off. Chase couldve died and House was prepared to take the fall because he secretly blamed himself and felt responsible
There was an episode where the one guy’s brain hemispheres were working separately causing his left arm to operate independently. He kept on slapping and hitting people with it and I was confused there too, why they did not just tie his arm down to the bed similarly to a psyche patient. They just needed the extra drama I guess.
Everything House says after "You're a coward." Is the most honest and accurate he has ever been. And that's saying something for House.
that's called character.
@@ashishjindal6382 you mean as in integrity?
@@sowhat... yes
Btw,smart thing to call the person who can get you fired
@@itsnotukulele9864 btw it’s a show in tv anything can happen like a last minute save so house wouldn’t get fired like exactly what happened in the video
What I love about House's outburst here is you could take it one of two ways.
1. He's upset because he feels guilty. He believes he's at fault and has a sense of 'needing' to be punished for it. When the man backs out of punishing him, House is angry because he now has to process this guilt normally rather than through suffering for it.
2. He's angry because he believes he was right, and this other man decided that he was right not on the basis of the inherent value or merit to his decision, but rather on someone else coming in and breaking the other guy's resolve with a 'sob story' about how House's decision ended up being right. He hates the sentiment, and not merit, is what tipped the balance in his favor.
I would say it's a bit of both. He knows he's right and wants others to know that too, not because of a sob story, but because it's the truth, because he IS a brilliant doctor with unconventional ways that work. However, he also knows he's (at least partially) at fault for setting up that incident in the first place, and needs to be punished for it.
@@AzureKyle Problem is that all of the three initial answers were wrong. If House had come up with the right diagnosis sooner the incident would not have happened in the first place. But maybe he liked the thought of 3 different theories, one test so much, he stopped looking for a fourth possibility. That would mean House was so caught up in his mind games, that it had hampered his judgement. If House realise this then by his own logic he did not operate how he should have and was to blame.
@@barthoving2053 You must be new. Three or more theories before the correct one is the norm to this show. The mentality House always had was to fully commit to the most likely correct theory until it is evident that it is not correct, or it works. The mind games are not new, and neither is House's ability to process cases effectively in parallel. His epiphany happens in the middle of a very important situation for him, when his freedom is at stake and he still walks out because, answer in hand, he commits to it and needs to see it through. The only time House was ever really distracted was when he was on Methadone.
Process of elimination was utilized, isn't that normal
@@kitpitre
Usually, doctors don't test multiple theories at once.
“He wasn’t the nicest doctor I ever met”
House: I’ve heard enough
Every complement said to him and he's like: I think we've heard enough.
@@BillySummers24 *compliment
xD nice one raphtalia
Thats what she said
*we
House is always expecting a bigger punishiment so he doesn't have to deal with his emotions or the other person, its like when Amber died, he also wanted to be dead so he doesn't have to deal with Wilson.
It wasn't House's fault to begin with.
Taub said it perfectly in this episode. They knew that the guy was unstable and potentially psychotic... but he still chose to go near him with a scalpel, without him being restrained, against House's orders.
@@AtotehZ If he was any other doctor this could be true, but it was House, the same House that always encourage their employees to defy him, and yes, Chase did what he did, but that is what House have teached them, "fight for what you belive" and that kind of enviroment is what lead to this outcome, even House know this and that is why he apologieze at the end of the episode.
@@PunkySlush yes, its my second language and I haven't been practicing so I'm sorry if what I said doesn't make sense.
@@megalodon2831 no need for apologies the only word that needs to be changed is teached, to taught. otherwise it makes perfect sense. and yes house intentionally set a competitive environment so that he could have multiple points of view in order for his methods to work. while such a thing is terrible if you want a cohesive team, house wasnt making a team but a tool for him to use to do his job, if the "wetware" happened to learn a thing or two or not at all was not his his concern.
@@megalodon2831 aw there’s no need to apologize for that 🥺
House md is and always will be the best medical drama ever
And Grey's Anatomy will be the 2nd best followed by The Good Doctor🎉🎉
It's the truth!
House is pretty good
But I’m guessing u haven’t seen ER
Only if the last season was good
Big facts
“Are you going to have me fired for bad manners?”
*places feet on table*
Thank you we didn't notice
how tf did you notice that easter egg bro. You must be a genius
Nah, I just happened to catch it. But I do appreciate the compliment.
@@anteapic8527 be nice. Comment policeman.
@@PassiveDissimulation Shut up comment comment policeman.
One of houses worst qualities is his tendency to lash out when he feels insecure and guilty.
He wanted to be punished for what happened to Chase because he DOES care.
@@thegatorhator6822 that's definitely possible and I am very much inclined to agree
I don't think this was due to feeling any guilt or insecurity.
This man was here to determine fault. Chase got stabbed in the heart by a patient. There are people at fault here, that doesn't "just happen". Whether it's all of them or the patient, who knows, but somebody or a group was at fault. A weapon was brought into the hands of a room of a patient with a potential psychotic reaction - who had previously had a psychotic reaction enough to warrant the protection.
House wanted the answer, like he always wanted the answer. Cofield had all the data, all the notes, all the files, all the testimony - and he exhaustively examined the situation from every angle. House doesn't have that information or that management training. House can't determine this answer because he's not objective - it's not his job.
Cofield withheld judgment. Who was at fault here?
Foreman was at fault.
The methods in which House operates are under his management and it is tolerated. Walter Cofield should have condemned House's practice - any ethics committee could list his unsafe violations just recorded on those notes. A spring loaded confetti bomb inside a licensed medication for pain in a hospital, where surgery's happen, many of which House goes into?
Cofield held back because of his relationship with Foreman. It was Foreman who brought him in hoping he'd get leniency - and he did - when really Foreman should've been condemned for allowing these practices in the first place. House and his team - individual citations and reprimands for grievances.
It's these same practices that end up destroying an MRI at the hospital which leads to House being ordered back to prison.
Had Cofield intervened here and enforced discipline, however he could have, he might've deterred that fate. He might've stopped that MRI from exploding. Cofield was no doubt capable, his interviews telling, and their accounts all yielded problems worthy of scrutiny.
House isn't doing this out of guilt or insecurity. This man Cofield has been selected to determine fault - and he isn't doing it. The math here is easy, there's a dozen roads he could've taken, a dozen faults identified, a dozen regulations cited... some of which might not have put House in jail but fixed these issues. These are administrative issues and saving patients does not justify their actions retroactively.
House didn't want to be punished because he felt he did something wrong. He wanted to know what was done wrong by a committee designed to correct this behavior. Sure, he might've existentially benefited from the answer, but this didn't come from there.
House's worst, and best, quality is an intolerance of ignorance. Cofield chose ignorance and that lights House right up. If he could he'd dissect that file for an hour with an autopsy as rigorous as could possibly be done to find this answer... if he didn't know already that Cofield's methods aren't as exhaustive as his interrogation techniques.
This is why in the subsequent scene, he immediately goes to Chase - the only person who witnessed all of it, and has a grievance to cite and the insight on the patient who stabbed him. House admits he was at fault - though this doesn't exonerate Foreman. It's just House's belief he's at fault, and he is at fault, since he's been manipulating Foreman for years... but he goes to Chase because he doesn't know. Chase being the closest doctor to House in almost every way, he goes to the only other person who had the means of determining the truth. Even this acquittal is in direct result of his manipulation of Foreman, who chose a doctor incapable of completing a judgment. Foreman very likely knew this wouldn't come back on him.
It isn't a feeling of guilt - it's an actual intellectual suspicion of guilt, but worse, an absolute need to determine guilt.
When House drove a car into Cuddy's house - he didn't feel guilty or insecure at all. He went to a nice beach and drank.
He divides his team and encourages them to break rules, break protocol and advocate for their treatments risking their own lives. That's unethical. He's never presumed to operate otherwise - and in this specific instance he induced a psychotic episode in a patient and did not secure them in any way - a fault of not attending his patient. No security measures were put in place - forget chase, this man could've gotten up and stabbed half the hospital if he chose to.
Foreman once nearly fell victim to this same situation and ended up in a dangerous quarantine for similar reasons.
House has faults - but pursuing the truth is one much higher than potential emotional reactions.
If you want to go after him, search for something greater than emotional pettiness. House's greatest fault is an inability to use that enlightenment to any meaningful end.
Here Chase is in pain and House ignores it to get an answer - and has a rare opportunity to share his years long rehabilitation efforts with Chase. Instead he pursues answers to inane questions instead of saying, "It's my fault" and quitting immediately. House should not be in a position of power and he knows it - and his hypocrisy is destroying him in that rabid pursuit of truth.
This is why the last line of the show is him proclaiming, "Cancer's boring"... because relinquishing that search gives him the opportunity to actually pursue meaningful truths rather than simply finding value in finding the truth.
Gotta punch higher with House, he's a brilliant character - and I'm not talking about his intelligence. Just because he has emotions doesn't mean they corrupt his integrity. His corruption is much loftier than an emotional response. It's an intellectual addiction. Way more penetrating. "The need to be right". It's why his leg perpetually bothers him - a medical puzzle in which there's no answer, an endless pursuit in which to lose his mind in attempting to solve.
That's just to list one contender, we could circle several others, House is not beyond reproach in any way. I'm not defending him against reproach at all, he's fraught with flaws that would objectively get him fired in almost any medical field. It just belittles his overall ethos entirely to relegate him to a set of emotional constructs when he has more objective and known obsessions in which to point to.
But if you want to find his very worst fault... it runs much deeper. I'm not gonna claim to identify it, but if you take that all, and contrast it with "Everybody Lies"... there's a misanthropic vision there potentially just as dangerous as his obsession. A sincere disbelief in his fellow humans ability to create, perceive, or interpret the truth - and in himself. Everybody is everybody after all.
Take your pick - both that reckless pursuit of inane truths and misanthropic vision... both way worse qualities.
But hey - those are just two. He's a walking talking snowball of contradictions to pick from. I'm just throwing darts at obvious suspects.
Pretty much everyone I know and will ever meet.
@@BigMac8000 Where's the tl;dr?
It is a shame that so few people pick up on the fact that House does care, but he has a very hard time showing it, and seems afraid to. He's in constant, nigh unbearable pain, under frequent stress, and seems to be afraid to show his heart. After all, when you show your heart, someone may reach to break it. It's hard to be hurt when you push everyone away.
If someone cant pick that up then they werent paying attention at all. Almost every ( if not every ) episode Wilson or somebody else says that House always cares. He calls Wilson rationalization man but fact of the matter is Wilson is always right calling out the real rational reason why House did something. House always deflects when giving a reason, but as i said almost every episode someone calls out House's bullshit and reveals he cares, he is just unable ( or rather unwilling ) to show it in a not tough love way.
People don't pick up on that? I feel like the show kinda beats you over the head with that point.
I remember the ep where Foreman's like teacher during his residence or something? Came over with one of his patient and offer Foreman a job. He talk to Chase and Camaron about how he wanted house to care. Then later in the ep House was like "He think you do your job and what happens happens. But I think what we do matters. 'He sleeps better at night, he shouldn't'' And really hit to Foreman which of them really cares.
Literally 99% of the fandoms picks up on that.
Like Cuddy did!!
He knew he did something wrong and hated that he was getting away with it. Guess he does take after his father not father
What did House actually do wrong though? Based on these clips it seems like the attack was Chase's fault for trying to perform an unauthorized sample collection involving a scalpel.
@@every116 It's because of the "environment" that house has cultivated for his workers that leads to them being willing to take risks or go against what they are told to do.
Reason White House is under trial in the first place
Recall Foreman when the team was split up. He went to a new hospital, gained a possession like House's, and then he pulled a House. He was fired for it, and no other hospital would dare hire him because they don't want a House.
House does create more Houses in the people he gets close to. Even Cuddy was affected by him. So when it finally came to result in one of those people getting hurt, House was ready to be punished for it while maintaining his usual attitude.
It wasn't that. It was because he knew he would've gone to prison if that guy had stuck to his guns, but he didn't he changed his mind because of his emotions not his reasoning. House was responsible for fostering that environment, but for the right reasons.
=he did the right thing which dosen't mean that he's not responsible for chase being stabbed. Had the guy done "the right thing" from his view be would've followed through regardless oh House being brilliant.
Why does he do wrong things then?
This was such a beautifully crafted episode. Every scene was perfected to the very last detail. It was a dark, gloomy episode and it gave off a grim vibe.
I think they landed at the wrong conclusion. Chase was at fault. Not that I want him fired for it, but he definitely was the person who is to blame for things escalating.
@@AtotehZ their logic was that chase taking it upon himself to escalate without consultation is a result of years of enabling by house
All except the ending. They screwed that one up.
Yes! I watched the full episode recdently and the storytelling craft is just incredible! One of the ten best, or possibly five best.
Good things usually happen, bad things sometimes happen. His enabling is what makes those good things happen my guy
@@delirioususer9668
>walks into your office
>lets off a glitter bomb
>"two explosions"
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves
House is the original Sigma Male
6:30-8:00 is one of my favorite moments in the series. Which is saying a lot considering this is the final season. While not always balanced, House’s stand on what he believes is right and wrong was something I’ve always admire. He knows the stakes of the situation and seen the outcome hurt one of the closest men in his life. His life could change after leaving that room but he was given a pass. He’ll make use of it, but he knows it’s wrong. And that’s what it upsets him. Because if the roles were reversed, he wouldn’t give himself a pass.
And for that reason, this just became my new favorite House scene.
I think it's less about his perceived guilt but more about logic and honesty. House can accept the punishment, can respect those he disagrees with - but he can't respect those who can't stick to their guns and change their decisions willy-nilly. He knew that he was being reviewed as a boss not as a doctor and that his behaviour with employees should be reviewed, not his skills as a doctor.
'DR House is obviously brilliant'
House: Well i think we've heard enough
well it was pretty clear once he said that he was going to suspend him
"He wasn't the nicest doctor I've ever met..."
House: "Well, I think we've heard enough..."
Cant believe we watched the same video
Chase shouldn’t have gone in there with that scalpel. They already had a plan and he deviated which caused him to get stabbed. I know it’s harsh but it’s true.
100%, the thing is the reason why he made that decision. The environment was competitive, and Chase had incentive to be right about his theory and prove it. It’s his fault 100% but House is also at fault for creating an environment where that sort of irrational/ careless behavior is the norm.
@@zachgiovannelli2626 well it is House's fault, but not because it's a "competetive" environment. House haven't raised athletes, he was raising independant and efficent doctors. In his own words these 3 (or 4 or 5) are there not to do his bidding but to make sure House doesn't make a mistake. Instead of solving each case and gathering a flock of subservient sheep that'll do everything he wants he males each and every team member an individual. Half of the time in these episodes is active training in independant, nonconventional and EFFICENT thinking. It isn't a competition to prove something to others, it's training in being right and stubborn to act on said belief.
Any other revelations you have for a decade old show?
The camera panned Chase actually stabbed himself.
But house wants to be at fault, and here is the thing: the other doctors are not his children for him to keep protecting them from their respponsabilities
House's character always had to be rationally motivated and focused on solving a puzzle. The writers worked under the rule, "The punishment doesn’t have to fit the crime, but there has to be a crime."👍
My first husband and I watched it religiously,lol. When he passed from a brain aneurysm it was hard to continue watching, but the shorts reminded me of what an awesome show this was.
sorry to hear about your first husband im glad you could rewatch some shorts and remember some of the good times :)
I've noticed that some of the more competent people whom an organization depends on can be complete a-holes because they are so good at what they do that they are tolerated. I've known people like him in the military from 30 years ago. They were abrasive to most people, including their friends and their personal lives were train wrecks, but they were the ones people depended on and turned to when things got hairy or when a job needed to be done right in a short amount of time. Yeah, they could be disciplined and lose rank, but they were not kicked out unless they were causing more problems than they were worth. House always reminded me of them.
Aawww. That's kind of.... bittersweet.
House would of never survived this woke cancel culture and I am very concerned for our military right now.
Eh, had the opposite when I was in the Army 2005-2009. Brown Nosers always rose to the top, and it didn't matter who you were if your Chain of Command didn't like you, they'd make your life hell. Left a really bad taste in my mouth.
@@Jaigarful You experienced exactly why I’m concerned. Obama finished what Billy boi Clinton started. Ruining our military.
@@Jaigarful I got out before billy boi,I hope that taste in your mouth wasn’t because of one of his policies. Just kidding! 😝
Most people in House's position would have breathed a sigh of relief. House called him out for going easy on him, proving why House belongs where he is and not in prison.
House... no matter how cold, will always love his team... like a family. He pushes people away because he’s scared he’s going to get hurt/hurt someone else... I just wish he could admit it.
well said
House also wishes he could admit it, but at the same time can't because he can't contradict his own world view of never being wrong. House also says "Everyone lies" while he himself knows he's also a liar, a liar to himself. The things he can't admit.
@@pliskenx51mm83 I never lie
He wouldn't be house if he did admit it though
i love you
When I first watched this episode my first thought was that Chase will have difficulty walking again therefore finishing his transformation into House 2.0, turned out he didn't need it.
"But the fact that that would-be widow came in just in time to sob all over your soft, mushy heart over the fact that her husband is gonna live does not change whether or not I did the right thing."
"Perhaps you did... perhaps you didn't..... But I know that I just did."
This episode always bothered me because it seems that House is just acting contrarian but he's not. What he's looking for is objective validation. He wants an outsider to come in to tell him that how he acts and what he does is worth it because he saves people. That woman coming in denied him of that possibility.
That's insightful but also consider House does tell Chase he's sorry later and implies it was his fault. Now his anger makes sense. The lady's emotional plea traded a beautifully rational victory for a hollow one.
@@rovidicus9574 wasn't exactly the lady's fault, but i do agree with house's mentality of "being right for the right reasons."
Or rather there's a part of House that wants humanity to stand for SOMETHING more than just results, just outcome. He was released from prison early because the hospital needed a doctor who can find the answers nobody else could. It all goes back to the story House related in Son of Coma Guy, where he tells the story off the Japanese janitor to whom the medical doctors turn when they're at their wits end. The janitor is an untouchable class, his presence among the venerable doctors stains their prestige, and yet THAT janitor who normally would NOT be allowed to share the same space at the same time as these doctors is tolerated and permitted among them BECAUSE he can produce the answers to the questions no one can solve.
In that same way, House is like that janitor. He's abrasive, he's unkempt, he cavorts with hookers (more on this below). House is crass, uncivil, and does NOT respect even a modicum of authority or protocol. In fact, THIS absence of proper protocol his the environment that House cultivated and which produced the dangerous situation where Chase brought a scalpel into a room with an unrestrained patient who may have a psychotic break. And yet, at the end, Dr. Cofield tolerated this because the patient's wife reveals that House produced the right result when NOBODY else could. Cofield's decision meant that ALL THAT MATTERS, and perhaps the ONLY thing that matters to Cofield, to PPTH, to Foreman, to the Parole Board, to society at large...is the outcome, the ability to get the desired result.
And this all goes back to House's first disillusionment with the world. It's when he realized his mother was being unfaithful to his domestic father whom House suspected is NOT his biological father. House saw his mother's infidelities while maintaining her marriage to his military father (not his bio dad) as hypocrisy. The military father was harsh, demanding and exacting and (as we learn in One Day, One Room) imposed strict forms of punishment for non-compliance. In a way, House resented that his mother stayed with this harsh not dad, instead of building a life with the man who fathered House. His mother chose practicality over affairs of the heart. Worse still, House later learns that even the man he THOUGHT was his bio dad is NOT. This makes his mother's infidelities even more rampant and her hypocrisy even more extreme.
House desperately wants PEOPLE to be about something more than just the desired result/outcome. To rise above biological drives, otherwise, "We are selfish base animals crawling across the earth, but because we got brains, if we try real hard we can occasionally aspire to something that is less than pure evil." (Season 3, Episode 12)
SO House flipped when Cofield just abandoned the trajectory and conclusion of his inquiry simply because House produced the desired result! He wants people to stand for something more than simply maneuvering themselves and others to get what they want.
House is logic incarnate. He will burn you for taking into account stuff that is irrelevant. I love his character.
Joco, Logic incarnate? As fictional characters go, I think Spock or Tuvok would have burned him down to his skivvies.
@@mitchellmelkin4078 uuuhhhhh...okay???
Dude let the hostage go 🤣🤣💀
House isn't logical at all times. In fact, it can be argued that he didn't throw logic into the neurologist's face for accuracy's sake, but because he wanted to be punished and "pay" for what he did. Since he wasn't, he felt like he couldn't "get even" with Chase and he now has to actually process his guilt.
I love Foreman but he wanted to see the downfall of House too much. No matter what team was working with him, Foreman was always in the background...just there loool
House spilling the vicodin all over the place was a throwback to Chase doing the same one time wasn't it?
yeah Chase pulled the prank back at him
this scene perfectly depicts house's moral code and his resentement towards anyone who can not stand for what they believe, he is okay with his team members defying him and going against his will even when the worst outcome happens but he can not stomach having his fate decided by someone who is just so easily swayed and who can not stand for what they believe even if the outcome is in his favor.
One thing that House would always look in people is, does a person stand next to its actions and beliefs and would respect them according to that. One of best scenes were you can see that is this one
The punchline of that vicodin bottle exploding with confetti is simple, but the absolute tension leading up to that almost out-of-nowhere pop was hilarious. Such a dreary scene then "Surprise!!!"
Dosnt it also mean that house hadnt taken any since the day if the incident, something I always thought about.
usually whenever they say it's nobody's fault it's always someone fault
Usually when they say it's nobody's it's because it is EVERYBODY'S fault. Fact is, you can't put the total fault on everybody, and you can't blame fate either as it is fate along with their decisions that set everything off in motion.
Or at least I think so, I could definitely be wrong. It's always somebody's fault, but the complete blame is not always theirs, rather, it is shared. And that is why it becomes nobody's fault, except fate's, or coincidence
"usually whenever they say it's nobody's fault it's always someone fault"
So it's usually always someone's fault?
OK, got it.
;-)
@@nickynicks_ so they should all go to prison. problem solved. next case :D
It's usually always huh?
@@irishkniferd9837 Not exactly, because the full blame was not on all of them. It was the decisions of few that led to the ultimate mistake. So they're basically innocent more than they are guilty... which is why I agree with the guy saying "nobody's fault." Happy new year
That first scene with the slow in zoom and just two great actors getting to flex their muscles is giving me shivers down my spine.
"Nobody's fault" DAMNIT ODYSSEUS NOT AGAIN
4:19 That's a very interesting transition. I love that they always did weird experiments with the visuals.
4:14
Dr. Cofield asked all those questions and concluded, "Well, doesn't look like anything to me."
Could've been prevented by restraining the patient to the bed, since they knew he might've gone crazy. Even without the operation in the room triggering him, you'd still not want to have a crazed patient free to go round the hospital. Being reckless can be fine as long as you have basic safety procedures in place.
Legally they can't actually do that. Forcing restraint on someone requires legal intervention as you are removing their freedom and liberty. You must before restraining someone, prove beyond all reasonable doubt they are a danger to themselves or others, apply the correct legal powers. Not sure what the US version is, but in the UK there is legislation called the mental health act, and form of physical restraint/detianment must be justified under it by meeting very strict requirements. Requirements which none of houses team are capable of determining as they aren't psychiatric dr's.
@@cgi2002 You can restrain a patient who is a danger to themselves or others. The hospital just has to have a valid reason. The difference is just the type of restraints you can use. Soft, hard, etc.
@@stephysteph9538 exactly, and they don't have a legally valid reason prior to this incident, as they must to use restraint 1st have a psychiatric dr assess them, they didn't. General medical staff don't have the legal authority to make a call for restraint except to stop an immediate danger, at which point they lose the legal power to treat the patient further beyond immediate life saving procedures. A psychiatric assessment must take place asap, and the patients next of kin/advocate/whoever holds power to make decisions for them must be contracted, as the patient is no longer legally deemed to have the ability to consent to treatment/testing until the assessment is concluded (even then they may not be deemed to have capacity to make decisions).
The laws regarding this are exceptionally strict.
@National Socialism psychosis doesn't automatically need restraint. Many people suffer from psychosis without becoming violent or committing self harm. Also read the side effects on most medications, you'll find a lovely long list that often includes many mental health conditions. By this logic you should be restrained if taking most medication as there is a side effect that could lead you to self harm.
The law doesn't work like that. Your not allowed to preemptively remove someone's freedom because of a possibility, you can't be proactive like that. Atleast not without suitable legal reason (which must be approved by existing laws, and the people empowered to enforce that law, they are not medical Dr's), in the UK thats the mental health act, in the US I am not sure what legal setup exists for mental health. In the UK the people needed to remove your freedoms are (it varies depending on circumstance a little) atleast 1 mental health Dr, 1 mental health social worker to start. Mental health consultants will be involved within 72 hours along with additional Dr's, and the entire time mental health nurses & careers would be involved directly with the care of the patient. The patient would be on constant ob's.
But that's the UK. The US mental health system is broken beyond reason and the patient would likely have been shot by police or hospital security before recieveing any suitable help had they not managed to sedate him.
The step of procedures in the treatment was to have an experienced mental health specialist be able to assess/evaluate his mental state. They knew the patient had a 1 in 3 chance likelihood of having a psychotic break, and I bet that House had a good idea as to when the patient should become psychotic (plus/minus a certain length of time)... So put a basic risk assessment in place to prevent danger, and tell it to the team prior to starting on the medication, and then request a psych eval in approximately however long. Then they can have a paper trail regarding their diagnostic testing and results.
The actor that plays Dr. Cofield is just an amazing actor when it comes to playing a serious style role. His voice i don't know has just an amazing tone to it that you feel his view at all times. You want to hear more from him.
You should see him in Westworld, he's fucking amazing there, he's a protagonist in there.
Chase was at fault. Wife was such a deus ex machina, even House got angry.
And what was House was going to go back to prison for? Trusting other people not to be idiots? Guilty as charged, then!
He encourages others to break the rules and operate without caution which is exactly the kind of behavior that Chase exhibited
@@captainchaos5705 he didn't encourage any rule breaking in this specific scenario, and didn't break any rules himself, what would the crime be
if you teach your son not to stop at stop signs and then he gets pulled over for rolling a stop, do you get a ticket?
@@captainchaos5705 He doesn’t encourage his doctors to do their own tests. Ever. Chase was acting independently, not because House wanted him to, or because House has encouraged that behavior in the past. House always instructs his doctors on which tests to do, it isn’t his responsibility if they disobey him.
House’s treatments are risky sure, but I have a hard time believing that patients seek out his expertise without first acknowledging that fact. In universe he is a renowned doctor.
Chase was at fault, or even the patient himself for not advocating for himself. Or nobody was.
@@VideoGuy232 The point is that Chase did what House would've done. House at several points says "break Cuddy's rules, not mine" through out the show, either in those or other words. In this episode he was basically the Cuddy while Chase was the House, House had a plan for diagnostic test and Chase went and completely ignored House because he thought his own theory is right, which is exactly what House does in pretty much every episode. House encourages this behavior not by his words but by his own behavior. Chase was absolutely at fault for his own injury, but he acted like House because he learned from House.
Chase was clearly at fault but the "judge" got so focused on house's lack of emotion and not wanting to blame the injured guy led him to blame an innocent party
Copeland's point earlier talking to Chase was the best point he could have made:
House makes saving lives a game, defies authority and teaches his employees to defy authority as long as they think they're right. It is that behavior and reinforced behavior that taught Chase to behave like he did and created the environment where it was okay to do it, no matter how reckless it was.
It's also why Chase is the one to take House's position when he dies. He took to heart House's methodology more than anyone else.
I think this was a lesson Chase learned that helped him become a better doctor, still it was a lesson he had to learn... Don't play with knives.
@@doublesahsunpowah6898 Um...Chase is a surgeon; he sorta *has* to play with knives. 😉
"He saved my husbands life"
that literally does nothing to change what the guy was saying 20 seconds ago, letting House go sends a bad message that as long as you do your job you can be reckless and endanger people in the process
Thats why house got upset.
I've commented on the end before but I found another point when House called Dr. Cofield out for backing out on his original judgement. House finally revealed he felt guilty and that gave the final answer Dr. Cofield was looking for, which was, he does care and he is not as callous as he thought he was.
He wanted to go to jail so that he didn’t have to deal with his guilt about chase’s wounds
The dude checkmated house. Once you realise he is a self loathing dude he did the greates punishment. He refused to punish him. And let the guilt rest on him as a reminder for when he might choose to be reckless again.
House taught us even viewers to interact with the scenes and this episode in particular in a very broadway. This is a real drama that is too close to reality when everything can be anything. Amazing.
"We're not done here"
"Don't worry Ill be back, just going to save a mans life is all. You can keep that _on the record_ "
Basically, everyone but Taub and Park was at fault and Cofield led himself be ruled by emotions and appearances.
First Chase was at fault exactly for the reasons Taub said. He went to a patient with a possibility of schizophrenia because he believed he was right and put everyone in that room in danger; However, because he's the victim of an attack that almost caused him his life and later movility, he's passed over.
Next, Adams is at fault because she was an accessory to Chase's actions; however it wouldn't make sense to put the blame on her and not Chase, she can only be held responsible in conjuntion with him.
House is at fault because of the environment he created and encourages in the work place, however this behavior is also accepted by Foreman, who should had been responsible to put a stop to it. Despite his words, Cofield ultimately did "get {Foreman]him out of trouble". In the end he couldn't even do that, going by the optics of punishing House when he saved the patient's life.
So yeah, dude went down a long line of guilty people and ended absolving all of them.
Because regardless of who was right or fucking wrong someone almost lost there fucking lives over this it should of ended a long time ago but house decided if they were going to sink then the captain cant abandon ship even if he wanted to he probably knew what happened but cant be sure if anything is real anymore so he didnt care what happened to him just that whoever had felt wronged got the justice they wanted even if he thought he was going to die
I like how everyone is just like naw the dude who stabbed him wasn't at fault no its somebody else fault because they should know better..... like no it's obviously the dude who stabbed hims fault any other blame assignment is really just petty and unnecessary.
@Tangerine Tech Dude was restrained in a hospital clearly having an episode. If a kid gets into an animal cage and gets mauled, you get that the animal did it, but the question is how did the kid get in? Where were the keepers? Where were the parents?
@@tangerinetech5300they gave him medication that would cause a psychotic episode if they were wrong about the diagnosis. Instead of waiting for it to pass before trying another test chase brought a weapon into the room with the patient and put everyone in there in danger. It wasn't the man's fault that his doctors made it so when he would snap that someone was guaranteed to get hurt.
" Dr house is brilliant" house " well I've heard enough! " 😂 Classic house wit!
I still believe Chase was House's favourite one
No 13 was favorite
Cala boca, seu merda
@@atahana3r3rr3 Agreed. While I believe House saw a lot of himself in Chase, and at the end of the series he definitely had a strong respect for Chase as a doctor. 13 was indeed his favorite. Outside of Wilson, no one else understood House as much as 13 did.
@@Regitron3000 Within his team, 13 and Cameron were his favorites, even if he didn't fully acknowledge it. Outside of it, it isn't even necessary to point it out. He literally gave up everything to be with Wilson
@@LoveIncest Cameron was never his favorite ever
It's one of the greatest episodes of house, plss don't change my mind
Watch the one when Amber dies, it is actually 2 episodes😅
Bernard seems to be living a normal life.
Although I wouldn't like to live anywhere near a person like the House's character, I'll have to admit that the ending scene is a great, sincere and admirable attitude, saying the truth in name of what is right, without caring about the consequences under the "civilized" man's law. I hope I'll have the guts to do the same if it comes to happen to me.
I like how in the end they’re both at fault.
The diagnostic trial would also confirm Adams’ theory. Chase only wanted to do it because he was pissed at House and wanted to confirm the test results. Chase was only pissed because of the hair dye that House put in Adams shampoo.
House told the team that there was a chance of a psychotic episode. Chase decided to do the biopsy while they were waiting for the results. Chase should’ve took that risk seriously and had security/nurses to restrain him.
House getting upset in the end shows he does care and that he wants to be punished for the incident to resolve his guilt.
Wright: put the Vicodin away doctor house
House: my leg hurts
Wright: My cat shiva would just love to have you over for dinner
House:😐
... With some faba beans and a nice Chianti?
I think Foreman knew House wouldn't take that well the moment Cofield gave his judgement.
"dr house is brilliant"
"well, i think we heard enough"
I've never seen this episode before
That's what Bernard would say
Me when i watch every single house clip
It’s like one of the very last episodes of the last season.
@@WoWBaxter are you sure about that, from what I recall their wasn't much medical stuff, more of House and Wilson's relationship.
Season 8, episode 11
House is (was) on a perpetual quest for reality, logic and reason. He's looking for that perfect being hoping to find out how reach that perfection and he always comes up disappointed.
The closest he ever came was with that detective. He didn't react well to that.
Ultimately, highly hypocritical and immature at which point he resorts to tyranny.
In the mean time he's also highly entertaining - as someone else's doctor.
This final season hurts in every way. Masterfully done.
The color filters on this episode was brilliant.
Alternative title: Felix Leiter meets Stuart Little’s dad
House valued people for sticking to their beliefs. Don’t give in because you are overruled but because you are proven wrong.
Cofield gave in because house solved the case, yet again, but that doesn’t change if house was guilty or not. And that means house acan not respect cofield and calls him a coward. It’s the same treatment he gives his team.
The way he stood up.... he wouldn’t be able to of his feet were still on the table
House values people sticking up for their choices and decisions. When he changed his mind on this case due to an Appeal to Emotion fallacy, thats when House got mad.
Say what you will, House was the only person there not playing politics.
He legitimately believed he did all the right things, and even to his detriment, when he felt like the principles they're supposed to be standing for were just left to die, he was the first one to speak up for it.
House's laugh after the popper went off stands out to me. It's a tiny moment but you can tell he's impressed by Chase legitimately surprising him and the fondness for him comes out for a moment. It's such good writing and acting.
It's not a ''tiny'' moment, and it doesn't stand out to you alone. It was there on purpose, it wasn't subtle, and it did its purpose.
House is a genius. ...at what he does wish we had him here in the VA....
I have had the pleasure of watching ALOT of AMAZING TV series in my time....but,
The LEVELS OF INTENSITY that House M.D. could reach, are still........... UNMATCHED!!
Loved that episode. House is always at his best when under fire.
From what I understand about the show, House has solved hundreds of unique cases. It may take him a few tries but he usually if not always solves them. You’d think with a record like his, people would just shut up and listen to most likely save their or their loved ones life. If I’d heard of his record, I’d let him do things his way to save my life.
I love his integrity.
The bureaucrat at the beginning isn’t even trying to trick him, he is just genuinely aghast at how a friend could be so dispassionate
1:13 the real life Rick Sanchez
People always have something to complain about. No matter how talented you're no matter how much you've helped others they always find something wrong about you.
Sorry.... no.... it was Chase's fault for going off on his own, and bringing a scalpel into a patient's room who, 33.3% chance was suffering severe psychological issues. Something that Taub pointed out when he was questioned in private. Chase was reckless. This would have been a far more powerful episode if that conclusion was reached. Then, give Chase a chance to resign, find work at another hospital after a full recovery, and have the actor portraying him leave the show. The writers squandered a perfect opportunity for an Emmy Winning episode.
House md may not be the more medical accurate shows but surely the more interesting and great story line
Probably the best episode of season 8
“This will be our last chance of questions.”
“Do you question the nature of your reality?”
Jeffrey Wright sir's acting commentable .
*House in Eureka* is a phenomenon wherein
Dr. House enters Eureka,
zones out 95% from the conversation,
starts walking away (to cancel the previous treatment/procedure),
throws in a diagnosis metaphor with the remaining 5% attention,
and you go, "I'm not done here" or something to the effect of
I have seen every episode of house why don't I remember this
Foreman ticked me off so much when he became House's boss. Like you worked under him for years and seen everything he's solved, why are you doubting anything he's doing?
When he became Dean, he had to take House into a new perspective. He now had another set of bosses to appease, and those bosses weren't as medical as House. He was acting the same as Cuddy but Cuddy didnt tick you off for 7 seasons? Because shes hot? (Fair enough)
House isn't fun without Cuddy.
there are some episodes that are amazing! this is one of these episodes
that guy must hate lightbulbs
I never tire watching House.
Season 7 and 8 was a freaking masterpiece
When the vicodin bottle exploded, I realized the top quality of the writers. Even at the late stage of the show.
Years before (about 5), when I first finished the series, I felt this big void. I thought the series could've have a better ending for the viewers. And still think so, but the ending is still good. Except for poor Cuddy. She didn't deserve all that.
just give me chase md for the love of everything that is holy
I think he's busy dealing with fires still.
You forgot the season number in the description
its season 8
I didn't know this was James Bond training with the CIA. Yes I know I've just been watching casino royale on CZcams for the 50th time.
I should have introduced myself, seeing as we’re related. Felix Leiter, a brother from Langley.
Well, he did do a episode where he had to diagnosis a CIA agent.
Fun fact. The patient went on to have a fruitful career doing black ops with the CIA. Until he planted a bomb in Miami.
Everyone is every alignment, depending on the circumstances. This is House being Lawful Neutral.
Either way win-win, house got the guilt in him as well got free from any charges
He saved a lot of lives and prevented a bunch of deaths.
Sometimes being right or even doing right won't save you.
Great title, really kept me guessing at the outcome.
he wont admit it directly, but House blamed himself in this scenario...he felt like he was liable for what happened. he was probably prepared to be sent back to prison, but, whether or not it was the case, the fact the wife came in and delivered the news his last second diagnosis saved the husband's life deemed him as not guilty or liable for what happened pisses him off. Chase couldve died and House was prepared to take the fall because he secretly blamed himself and felt responsible
It seems to me (unless I missed something) that there's huge unanswered question here. Why wasn't the psychotic patient placed in restraints?
Excellent question. On the old _House_ forums, we decided the answer was "Because the writers needed him to be able to stab Chase."😁
There was an episode where the one guy’s brain hemispheres were working separately causing his left arm to operate independently. He kept on slapping and hitting people with it and I was confused there too, why they did not just tie his arm down to the bed similarly to a psyche patient. They just needed the extra drama I guess.
It is the greatest medical show ever created!
Great timing on the wife's part.
So this is what *Volts* did after *The Hunger Games*
Cofield sending someone to prison? I remember Michael breaking from it...