STOP Doing Back Extensions Like This!

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  • čas přidán 25. 08. 2024

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  • @adrianbolton9279
    @adrianbolton9279 Před rokem +187

    I want to train my lower back to be strong eccentrically and concentrically no just isometrically. I started doing back extension going through actual full lumbar flexion and extension. After 3 months of slowly increasing the weight from 10lbs to 35lbs, My back pain I've had for over over 2 years is gone. I used to be only able to sit for 30mins in horrible pain. I can now sit for an unlimited amount of time and can bend forward all the way through full lumbar flexion without pain. I've also been to 3 different PTs through this time and only 1 suggested to perform full range back extensions. I am forever grateful

    • @sonidoo5908
      @sonidoo5908 Před rokem +2

      Do you have a lumbar herniated disc?

    • @adrianbolton9279
      @adrianbolton9279 Před rokem +11

      @@sonidoo5908 I don't know. I never got an MRI to confirm, but my x-ray showed decreased disc height at L5-S1. Not sure if I just sprained it or worse. My signs and symptoms were consisted with a disc injury though. The first week after my injury, ANY position except supine felt like someone was stabbing a hot iron through my back

    • @Immortalsoul669
      @Immortalsoul669 Před rokem +2

      ​@Adrian Bolton sounds like you definitely had a herniated disc wich is what I have. I'm doing KOT program and just bought a back extension. After months of no work I really hope this is what gets me out of the gutter

    • @adrianbolton9279
      @adrianbolton9279 Před rokem +11

      @@Immortalsoul669 Yeah I was going through PT school when it happened. Just didn't want to self diagnose, but pretty sure I did. Good news is today my back is pain free all because of the back extension machine. Hope you have a quick recovery.

    • @jo2862
      @jo2862 Před rokem +4

      That's a blessing, praise God!!

  • @HonkeyKongLive
    @HonkeyKongLive Před rokem +348

    This video seems to run head-on into other videos focusing on how constantly avoiding spine flexion results in greater back problems. TBH I intentionally use this (and the reverse hyper) to put light loads on the lower back to take the spine through a ROM and it's really helped me be in less pain.

    • @Coleman11900
      @Coleman11900 Před rokem +5

      Thank you

    • @hssy2jrocker
      @hssy2jrocker Před rokem +43

      This guy is pretty legit though. He trains Olympic weightlifters and powerlifters!
      But I guess it's not like there is one absolute truth. Some think one style is better, others think another is better. Just do what suits you.

    • @reclanton
      @reclanton Před rokem +16

      my kung fu style is superior ;(

    • @hippie_4762
      @hippie_4762 Před rokem +14

      @@hssy2jrocker Honestly I think the truth is still out on loading through spinal flexion. For now I just do both, a lot of training for stability in the hips and some light loading through flexion, mostly banded to make it less severe in full extension. But I think both sides have decent arguments and evidence supporting them.

    • @ronstewart5945
      @ronstewart5945 Před rokem +59

      He specified that rounding *under load* was the issue. Practicing flexion is always good to maintain mobility, just not under a heavy load - whatever that is for you.

  • @SabianCarthen
    @SabianCarthen Před rokem +239

    I’m not the expert but you could get a lot lower with a flat back if the pad was even lower than in the video. That stretch at full ROM has really gotten rid of my low back pain.

    • @xhalexj
      @xhalexj Před rokem +34

      you're right but then it's not about strengthening the back isometrically, you're then talking about stretching the back which is absolutely a function of the roman chair but not the direct topic of his statement in this video! :)

    • @rayres1074
      @rayres1074 Před rokem

      Definitely could.

    • @SabianCarthen
      @SabianCarthen Před rokem +11

      @@xhalexj makes sense. definitely can see how training both ways could be useful

    • @marledanimefan7186
      @marledanimefan7186 Před rokem +13

      He cant cause he'lll fly ass first cause gravity. If they used a real machine with leg holders on the calves or a bit lowers then he could do that.

    • @NormanKonstantin
      @NormanKonstantin Před rokem +3

      Yes you can, going lower will get your hammies involved more, what he showed in the video is a really good glute bias, both works.

  • @UnskilledGrappler
    @UnskilledGrappler Před rokem +53

    As someone with lifelong lower back pain, I do it the way you suggest, and it helps me immensely. If I let my lower back flex, it’s pain city.

    • @vyvianalcott1681
      @vyvianalcott1681 Před 7 měsíci +6

      Walk backwards uphill on a treadmill for 5 minutes every time you work out. It's excellent for your knees and helps train your legs to provide a better foundation, which takes some pressure off your back.

  • @jonathanblaies826
    @jonathanblaies826 Před rokem +22

    Great information! This content is priceless, thank you both for your time. 💪

  • @blacksmithperformance
    @blacksmithperformance Před rokem +52

    You can use this machine to focus on glutes and hamstrings or back extensors. If you're focused on the latter, keep the load light and hit high reps, 15-25. Don't let someone tell you that you're wrong for hitting your extensors with this. It's just a different focus.

    • @gfhrtg54
      @gfhrtg54 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Are there zones or ways to make this exercise focus on lower back and less on Hamstrings?

    • @blacksmithperformance
      @blacksmithperformance Před 8 měsíci +1

      To make it more low back focused, more through the spine vs the hip.
      I would recommend working with a fitness professional who can help you perform this correctly.
      I would also assess why you would want to include this in your program. People want to incorporate this if they have lower back pain but you should get a proper assessment first to identify if this exercise even makes sense for you.
      Hope that helps!

    • @rexibhazoboa7097
      @rexibhazoboa7097 Před 8 měsíci +6

      @@gfhrtg54I swear I thought the form they just showed in the video WAS for lower back but now they are saying it’s for glutes and hamstrings. I thought the glutes had to flex and stretch to get work done.

    • @marcusmoyses3809
      @marcusmoyses3809 Před 7 měsíci

      WE CAN ACTIVATE GLUTES BY CONTRACTING IT, FLEXING AND RELEASE LIKE ANY OTHER BODY PART. WE NEED TO LEARN TO POSITION IT IN THE RIGHT ANGLE AND TIME AND USE WHAT MANY PEOPLE CALL NERVE (BRAIN) CONNECTION. IT TAKES FOCUS AND CONCENTRATION.TRY IT FOR ALL MUSCLES YOU ARE WILLING TO TRAIN.THAT IS WHEN WE GET RESULTS AND OTHER PEOPLE DO NOT. @@rexibhazoboa7097

  • @Mr.Beavis667
    @Mr.Beavis667 Před rokem +626

    Kneesovertoesguy enters the chat....

    • @FitFighter15
      @FitFighter15 Před rokem +8

      ha ha ha 🤣🙂

    • @SomeKidFromBritain
      @SomeKidFromBritain Před rokem +14

      To say what?
      Edit: nevermind, very low ROM

    • @staebs
      @staebs Před rokem +91

      I believe Aaron has more education under his belt. If I *had* to choose between advice from either of them.

    • @mrEugenieee
      @mrEugenieee Před rokem +2

      😂😂😂

    • @Mr.Beavis667
      @Mr.Beavis667 Před rokem +70

      @@staebs Yeah i kinda do to. But why not both? So full ROM with no weights and that limited ROM with weights?

  • @misterwill3625
    @misterwill3625 Před rokem +12

    Great explanation of how to perform the exercises and why it should be done that way. Thank you 😊

  • @timonix2
    @timonix2 Před rokem +49

    I have fairly good hip mobility so I like to have the padding even further down. That way I can have a straight back while going lower and get the full range of motion of the glutes and hamstrings. Closer to the animation at 1:30 rather than staying parallell to the ground

  • @MobaCry
    @MobaCry Před rokem +4

    Thank you 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
    When I was doing this exercise I was in pain... So I am going to try it again but following your instructions.

  • @Amy.Scorpio
    @Amy.Scorpio Před rokem +5

    This is awesome. Thanks for clarifying this! It can easily be confused with glute-focused exercises on this which round the back, which isn't the safest idea for hip extensions long term

  • @TheShapelessAndFormlessVoid

    While it's true that for a hip extension this lumbar movement is not good, back extensions are actually a decent exercise for accessory work on the spinal erectors. However, it is a bit better to have a lower angle when performing back extensions, so performing the exercise on a GHD in order to place tension rather than compression on the discs is preferable.

    • @sunsh1n1ng
      @sunsh1n1ng Před 2 měsíci

      Genuinely helpful nuanced comment in an otherwise black and white dialogue

  • @samuelgaspar4742
    @samuelgaspar4742 Před rokem +11

    I agree that to overload the compressed formof the spinal erectors you should do like youninstruct. But there is place for rounding the back to strength the muscle in a stretch form, all with the respective intensity, volume and resistance.

  • @antony_daffurn
    @antony_daffurn Před rokem +65

    Another great video, reinforcing stability at the spine/core whilst moving through the hips. You've been a blessing to my clinical practice 🙂

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      @SquatUniversity  Před rokem +4

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      @mikewalkow1860 Před rokem

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      @SquatUniversity  Před rokem +5

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      @mikewalkow1860 Před rokem

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      @dhilipsrihari3098 Před rokem

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  • @its-violet
    @its-violet Před rokem +9

    Thank you!!! I wasn't feeling the burn in the right lower middle part as I was supposed to. This video has been very helpful

  • @artspark7697
    @artspark7697 Před 9 měsíci +2

    This exercise helped my lower back pain a lot and I was told by my orthopedic doctor that it is ok to do but if you have disc problems do not add weight.

  • @Adronomics
    @Adronomics Před rokem +3

    Definitely place it below my pelvis. I do full rom on this with no to low load. Helps me with a lot of my posterior chain. Helped me overcome cramps too.

  • @copernicus99
    @copernicus99 Před rokem +7

    Bret Contreras (among others) recommends using a slightly rounded back to target the glutes more. This is the first time I'm hearing that this may increase the risk of injury under load. Hmm...

  • @brachsmith
    @brachsmith Před 11 měsíci +2

    Would love to see ways to integrate weight via a plate, dumbbell, and/or barbell. Where/how should it be held to be most effective?

  • @al-eteos-imhotepheru-bey3271

    Thank you, I had no idea I've been screwing this up the whole time.

  • @michaeltwomey9751
    @michaeltwomey9751 Před rokem +6

    Great information! You’ve just saved my back!

  • @alibadran4467
    @alibadran4467 Před rokem +2

    I was waiting for this for so long man

  • @VikingFitness00
    @VikingFitness00 Před rokem +5

    i learnt from so many other people and videos over the year to flex the spine at the bottom (round the back) and extend on the way up(chest high and spine straightened) to get the erector muscles now i'm being told no only isometrically is the way. God i am so confused

    • @ryanl874
      @ryanl874 Před rokem

      Lol both are fine, some people would rupture their LB disc with rounding, others would be fine for many decades. So Yolo

  • @KompletterGeist
    @KompletterGeist Před 9 měsíci +15

    I use this exercise to intentionally train my spinal erectors, not my glutes, so i DO intentionally round my back (obviously going with lower weight + higher reps).
    I feel like it helped out my deadlifting

    • @barrywilliams4866
      @barrywilliams4866 Před 8 měsíci +1

      it's not wrong, Mike O'Hearn does exactly this too..

    • @davidmonzon2557
      @davidmonzon2557 Před 7 měsíci

      Same. I've actually been doing (and programming) both variations for about 12-15 years now.

  • @lawrencelee900
    @lawrencelee900 Před rokem +10

    There are some fitness CZcamsrs (Ryan Humiston comes to mind) who advocate for doing these with back flexion specifically to build more lower back muscle (in a bodybuilding context). If someone is able to do this under load without pain, is it still safe to do this with back flexion?

  • @stormrhode2330
    @stormrhode2330 Před rokem +2

    It's basically a good morning vs a Jefferson curl. Both have applications, but you need to really know what you're doing to maximize the benefit and minimize the risk of either, especially the latter (i.e., Jefferson curl).

  • @teknikgroup7597
    @teknikgroup7597 Před 5 měsíci

    Thanks, I adjusted down the pads, grabbed a barbell and felt the burn in the Glutes....awesome. Thanks for showing the correct way.

  • @kikibah2001
    @kikibah2001 Před rokem +6

    I like doing it with a fully rounded back long range, also isometrically with a straight back for short range loaded with weight. both are useful.

    • @lahoya32
      @lahoya32 Před měsícem

      Which one do you feel more the day after, and I mean the muscles not the spine. Greetings from germany.

    • @kikibah2001
      @kikibah2001 Před měsícem

      @@lahoya32 I couldn't say really, the loaded exercises are more intense and create more DOMS.

    • @lahoya32
      @lahoya32 Před měsícem +1

      @@kikibah2001 If you have a round back, don't you have to worry about your spinal discs? I like to do it like that myself, without weight, and over the next two days I notice muscles that I didn't even know existed, but many people also say that I just have to do it with a straight back. Greetings from germany.

    • @kikibah2001
      @kikibah2001 Před měsícem

      @@lahoya32 holding the position in hyper reverse position i akso had this sensation of new muscle along the spine popping up, then you get acclimated pretty quick to hold it for time.
      The spine is designed to move and bend but not with maximal load, just as dead lifts the spine must remain stable and reducing the range of motion is optimal.
      Back extension, good morning, hyper reverse are all great exercises to strengthen the posterior chain and lower back.
      Jefferson curl and rounded back extension without weight or light one are good for decompression, mobility.
      Overall a strong back is a straight back.

  • @amberkay2591
    @amberkay2591 Před 5 měsíci

    Excellent video. Watched and immediately implemented. Can’t even begin to tell you the difference !Complete burn in my HS and way less tension on my low back. Great content !

  • @scryne5578
    @scryne5578 Před měsícem

    I've always did it like this and it made me more problems than rounding my back and making my spine getting used to be free to bend more

  • @alexcope4144
    @alexcope4144 Před rokem +2

    This is kind of contrary to what Brett Contreras (glute guy), says to do. He says to deliberately curve your upper back to turn off your spinal erectors to focus more on your glutes. Assuming the way you're coaching this is to train the hip extensors and low back. Thoughts/comments?

  • @Anna-wd8ox
    @Anna-wd8ox Před rokem +16

    Literally tried to use this yesterday and about killed my lower back 😅 thank you!

    • @raphaeldeguzman7417
      @raphaeldeguzman7417 Před rokem +5

      I did 3 sets of 20 of this exercise just now and I'm laying on the floor with my legs stretched up in the hopes of my lower back working again. I share the same sentiment as you lol

    • @MaxIronsThird
      @MaxIronsThird Před 10 měsíci +2

      this exercise can be done for either lower back with small loads and high reps or for Glutes/Hamstrings with higher loads.
      I've always had lower back pain, doing this exercise fixed my back and i can now sleep however i want, even if the matress is really soft.

  • @CalebHSumo
    @CalebHSumo Před rokem +1

    I see so many people trying to load lumbar through flexion and attempt to fix back pain with twisting stretches instead of training spine stability and hip mobility.

  • @ditz3nfitness
    @ditz3nfitness Před rokem +5

    I've begun doing those for my herniated disc as a rehab and it seems to not hurt and actually feel good afterwards! Can only recommend these for people who struggles with lower back pain! Of course, done right!

    • @The.Ghost.of.Tom.Joad.
      @The.Ghost.of.Tom.Joad. Před 9 měsíci

      Exactly. I'm a CPT and have used this to rehab people with moderate sciatica.

  • @haraldbull1558
    @haraldbull1558 Před rokem +1

    Thing was still set up too high. Needs to be set below the hip joint to work the way it was mentioned.

  • @Super_BeastGirl
    @Super_BeastGirl Před rokem +1

    I needed this. I adjust this machine and adjust and adjust and it never feels right.

  • @RealziesCuts
    @RealziesCuts Před rokem +1

    Thanks for helping me get this Right 🏆

  • @s.wilson5675
    @s.wilson5675 Před měsícem

    I've used this to help strengthen my posterior chain. I do as described with 10kg weight. Also, without weight, I flex upper back, (a bit like cat/camel). I've read most of the comments (611), and didn't see any mention of Paul Chek. So just adding him to the mix and his video "The Reverse Hyperextension Exercise". Keep strong everyone.

  • @darklustgamingchannel4535
    @darklustgamingchannel4535 Před 7 měsíci

    Lower back is the core focus glutes are secondary and targeted towards the end of the upper motion

  • @Muslim_israeli
    @Muslim_israeli Před 7 měsíci

    This exercise save my lower from pain during squat and RDL

  • @domepiece11
    @domepiece11 Před rokem +3

    I think the pad should be even lower, so the top of the pad is below the hip crease. This allows you to rotate about the hips.

  • @DamianBrown
    @DamianBrown Před rokem +1

    Great refresher!!

  • @jaredbarts
    @jaredbarts Před rokem +10

    A lot of the "booty" themed back extension instructionals have the upper back rounded to hit the glutes more. I've always went with the single leg back extensions on the GHD, mainly for knee comfort, but also to avoid having to use weights due to the 45 degree being way to easy. For whatever reason, my knees never liked the 45 degree angle machines.

  • @thomashannam1677
    @thomashannam1677 Před rokem +3

    Love to see ya'll working together 💯💯💯

  • @shevinsacrey5862
    @shevinsacrey5862 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Bro thinks the gym lets you workout in bare feet

    • @stor954
      @stor954 Před dnem

      Really? It was to show U the details of the movement.

  • @jamesforreal
    @jamesforreal Před 9 měsíci

    Much appreciate the video. I used to get lower back pain and avoided this machine until I sank the pads way down.

  • @anc6023
    @anc6023 Před rokem +2

    Thanks for the pointers in the back extension. Can you do a video tutorial on the reverse hyper? Thanks in advance!

  • @HDLifter
    @HDLifter Před 7 měsíci

    My hyper-extension machine arrived today. Great tips!

  • @AlceuBap
    @AlceuBap Před 7 měsíci

    Fabulous! I've being doing it wrong, thinking that more bend means more results! Thank you for posting it!

  • @rnegoro1
    @rnegoro1 Před rokem

    Genius. I never thought of this.

  • @OneGazelle
    @OneGazelle Před 2 měsíci

    I thought this was supposed to be done as a hinge. The foot information was new to me.

  • @egorudoulov5114
    @egorudoulov5114 Před 7 měsíci

    you should try the exercise with making a vacuum of the stomach and then lowering and lengthening the lower back while keeping vacuum and tilting the pelvis to anterior once you're down you go back up while keeping the stomach vacuum and posteriorly rotating the pelvis (very controlled) so the movement is focused solely on the errector spinaes you're making a contraction and lenghtening them at the same time this in my opinion is the pinnachle of the roman machine and creates cables as lowerback muscles once ya kno ya kno

  • @BELLSOFSTEEL
    @BELLSOFSTEEL Před rokem +1

    I am learning so much keeping up with your channel! 😂🙏

    • @SquatUniversity
      @SquatUniversity  Před rokem

      Thank you!

    • @reddy3400
      @reddy3400 Před 3 měsíci

      @@SquatUniversity Can you mention the name of the Roman Chair you are using in this? I am 5'2" and would like to buy a decent one. It's been difficult to read all the reviews and get the proper chair. Thanks for all you do!

  • @nicholasforth3586
    @nicholasforth3586 Před rokem +5

    yeah no.. the reason why you should use that is because you can strengthen your erectors under tension instead of compression like the back would be if it rounds while standing.. I have degenerative disk disease and a few herniated disks.. doing this with a slight round going all the way down and only raising my body to horizontal is what has strengthened my back to the point of not having much pain..

    • @nicholasforth3586
      @nicholasforth3586 Před rokem +2

      sorry just wanted to state i get these to variations have different goals completely but I dont want people to think rounding their back is all together a back thing because its honestly a necessity if you want your back to stay healthy and strong

    • @boumdog
      @boumdog Před 10 dny

      Just to confirm, are you rounding through both Thoracic and Lumbar? (Sorry I know this comment is over a year old)

  • @bartk8672
    @bartk8672 Před 7 měsíci

    Suffering from low back pain for 3 years now. Even with the pad adjusted correctly, my lower back is killing me. I get pain during exercise as well

  • @SpinningSidekick
    @SpinningSidekick Před 11 měsíci +1

    Problems stem from the fact that the movement is incorrectly named by the gym bros. Rounding and then straightening your spine is back flexion/extension. Elevating the torso without rounding is hip extension. Keeping the lower back in one place while raising the upper back is a hyperextension.

  • @h3Xh3Xh3X
    @h3Xh3Xh3X Před 10 měsíci

    Please clarify that this is a low load situation, and that you can also train the erectors with spinal flexion in this 45° hyperextension machine. There are too many videos prescribing either or when it comes to spinal flexion, and it just creates more confusion.

  • @stephen8996
    @stephen8996 Před 19 dny

    I do both but with lighter weight i do an exaggerated rom the whole way through for injury prevention. It works for me

  • @davidbrianwells2058
    @davidbrianwells2058 Před 10 měsíci +9

    It's not a Roman chair.

    • @thedrunkengardenernb
      @thedrunkengardenernb Před 4 měsíci

      What is it

    • @fuegogrande4133
      @fuegogrande4133 Před 2 měsíci

      @@thedrunkengardenernb the old school roman chair... you place your knees where the hips are here. It was for ab work.

    • @fuegogrande4133
      @fuegogrande4133 Před 2 měsíci

      @@thedrunkengardenernb i call it a 45 degree horse.

  • @RagnarHoff
    @RagnarHoff Před měsícem

    Do rows with weights while in a straigth position on this bench. It will develop the ability to do back extension properly, or keep a right form on deadlifts. Rows forces you to keep a straight back.

  • @Player-001
    @Player-001 Před rokem +1

    I usually put the pad much lower, like mid-high thigh and do bigger rom, it fires up the hamstring like crazy.

  • @tallrobshortpants7190

    I like to use this piece of equipment as a stretch device. Lower pad, then bend at waist keeping back straight to stretch lower back, glutes and hams, simply by hanging.

  • @jalladin
    @jalladin Před rokem +1

    The best duo on the internet ❤. I actually didnt fully understand the actual machanics of this excercise until now. thanks!

  • @tommyrix7793
    @tommyrix7793 Před 7 měsíci

    Spot on great advice for everyone. Back health over time is imperative to all athletes/bodybuilders.

  • @Led.on.YouTube
    @Led.on.YouTube Před rokem +1

    Okay, I'll subscribe. Was literally looking for back extension forn videos about an hour ago

  • @James-em9qz
    @James-em9qz Před rokem +1

    This was so helpful...thank you very much sir!!

  • @AsifImran
    @AsifImran Před rokem +1

    Thanks

  • @BowTie8Bit
    @BowTie8Bit Před 2 měsíci

    I have a portion of my disc between l5 and s1 poking out and if I do any leg or back work the wrong way, it presses on the sciatic nerve. I can definitely tell when I do the back extensions the right way, the way you describe, because that disc material doesn't push further onto my nerve.

  • @jakefarm1280
    @jakefarm1280 Před 4 měsíci

    I had a lower back injury and started training on this machine regularly but I would round my back to stretch and strengthen it. I found that never rounding the back is what keeps the lower back weak. It’s a natural movement that the human was designed to do.

  • @liran8799
    @liran8799 Před 5 měsíci

    Bro got true grippers

  • @MarvinElsen
    @MarvinElsen Před rokem +5

    What if the goal IS to train the Erector muscles dynamically? Of course the load should be reasonable, but is the bodyweight itself always too much? And if not, where do you draw the line?

    • @SquatUniversity
      @SquatUniversity  Před rokem +3

      It depends on the person - everyone will be different based on their past injury history, goals of training, load being used, etc. The more load - the more load is applied to the spine which load + movement = increased risk of injury over time. So "it depends" is often the answer.

    • @MarvinElsen
      @MarvinElsen Před rokem

      @@SquatUniversity Thanks for the quick reply. So if there is no history of injury or feelings of discomfort during the exercise it should be fine as long as the basic training principles are applied, no? As long as one is aware of why the exercise is performed with dynamic movement in the spine, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with that kind of movement, if I understand you correctly.

  • @IolcanPK
    @IolcanPK Před rokem

    Thanks for this video, man, it was really helpful and I wasn't mindful of this adjustment

  • @antoniodecorona1801
    @antoniodecorona1801 Před 2 měsíci

    Excellent video and information, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us
    Have a great a blessed life

  • @joebananas1088
    @joebananas1088 Před 6 měsíci

    👏🏼 I do it exactly like this for years 👍🏼

  • @markratcliffe3530
    @markratcliffe3530 Před rokem +2

    I've worked as a personal trainer for nearly 20 years and I disagree with the message that this video is delivering.
    The two main exercises to perform using a Roman Chair apparatus are Back Extensions and Hip Extensions. While Hip Extensions are appropriate for conditioning the core and pelvic muscles isometrically in preparation for certain compound exercises like deadlifts and squats, both exercises are correct. They simply require different mechanical movement patterns depending on what you're aiming to achieve from each one.
    As the video suggests, the purpose of Hip Extensions is to lock the lumbar vertebra so that the trunk extensors are functioning isometrically as fixator muscles, supporting the trunk while the glutes and hamstrings are functioning to extend the hips. This is correct, but so to are Back Extensions, just for a different reason.
    Skeletal muscles are designed to contract isometrically and isotonically. If you only perform isometric exercises for a muscle, it will only strengthen isometrically. Therefore, you will not be strengthening the muscle throughout its whole range of motion. The vertebra is designed to flex, extend, laterally flex and rotate. A Back Extension on a Roman Chair enables you to extend from a flexed position, strengthening the erector spinae, multifidus and quadratus lumborum muscles through a full range of motion.
    To state that this exercise is not beneficial is misleading to your viewers and there's nothing wrong with including both variations in exercise routines some of the time, as they both require movement patterns that function with the mechanics of the MSK system rather than conflicting with them.

    • @heyyou274
      @heyyou274 Před 11 měsíci

      Thank you for that thorough explanation.

  • @gambarimas
    @gambarimas Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you! I was doing this exercise wrong. I was indeed bending my back ... under load!

  • @scotteasley4212
    @scotteasley4212 Před rokem +1

    The ATG Program by Ben Patrick encourages full range all the way to the bottom on back extensions (with a back that rounds), so I'm wondering if there's a way to justify what he's showing compared to what you guys are encouraging.

    • @scotteasley4212
      @scotteasley4212 Před rokem

      It's almost as if Ben Patrick's form with back extensions is mimicking the Jefferson Curl. Is there a difference compared to what you guys are showing?

  • @Boscoe264
    @Boscoe264 Před 10 měsíci

    Kneesovertoes and Squat University need to do a panel. This is the most friendly beef I've ever seen.

  • @MichaelBurnsGuitar
    @MichaelBurnsGuitar Před rokem

    Thanks heaps for the vid, changed my technique straight away

  • @kimdavis7812
    @kimdavis7812 Před rokem

    FANTASTIC video.. I’ve been doing it wrong all along .. thank
    You

  • @MrRikkiRocket
    @MrRikkiRocket Před 7 měsíci

    Thanks for the advice on positioning of the pad. But not sure about “grab with the toes” - ain’t no gym that wants you to use their equipment barefoot lol.

  • @user-ik5bj4pl3e
    @user-ik5bj4pl3e Před 5 měsíci +1

    How to achieve hypertrophy of the lumbar spine?

  • @Jwiznat
    @Jwiznat Před rokem

    i see so many people doing this wrong… this short video could prevent so much pain.

  • @SnakeAndTurtleQigong
    @SnakeAndTurtleQigong Před rokem

    Thanks so much for your help

  • @Primitive47
    @Primitive47 Před 18 dny

    I knew I was doing it incorrectly :( I had the right idea of where to position it at my pelvis, but going too low and hurt my back a bit.

  • @The.Ghost.of.Tom.Joad.
    @The.Ghost.of.Tom.Joad. Před 9 měsíci +4

    Nice vid. I use this with my training clients who want a nice booty, paired with side-clams and Romanians or hip thrusts. But a quibble with foot placement. There is solid research on this exercise with turned out feet, which makes this exercise a glute slayer!

  • @andrewf9322
    @andrewf9322 Před rokem +1

    It’s nice when experts validate what I intuitively do 😊

  • @tlh7490
    @tlh7490 Před 7 měsíci

    Nice video! I love this exercise at least once a week, but I am able to flex forward more, with proper form, still working mid-low back. But yes, this exercise is done incorrectly by most. I see many use way too much weight. Thank you!

  • @jberry855
    @jberry855 Před 7 měsíci

    Wow! I've been having the pad in the wrong position the whe time! Although, I do have my back straight. Good video! I'm going to try this!

  • @ninjashaw5991
    @ninjashaw5991 Před 7 měsíci

    I thought this was about how to train the lower back. I am still rounding my back with just body weight to train my lower back. I feel it helps.

  • @gershomauna2022
    @gershomauna2022 Před rokem +7

    Hey mate, as always, thanks for the quality content.
    Question: How does one increase the strength and size/thickness of the spinal erectors?
    I would like to increase strength and muscle tissue in and around the trunk in preparation for rugby. I hope you see this and thanks if you do answer.

  • @Tommy_007
    @Tommy_007 Před 8 měsíci

    I would add that thinking about contracting the glutes during the exercise will help keep the back straight.

  • @yourhealthisyourwealth3216

    I really like this guy

  • @toolfist88
    @toolfist88 Před 6 měsíci

    Absolutely paranoid to do these! Pinch my L5 S1 every time 😱

  • @TonyTouch831
    @TonyTouch831 Před rokem +1

    Can elephant walks improve our end points so we can go lower on hip extensions?

  • @matthewtomaszewski3269
    @matthewtomaszewski3269 Před 7 měsíci

    I’m a 72 yo retired PT with lumbar DJD/DDD and my back does better with the pad blocking my pelvis so that my lumbar spine does go into flexion and my lumbar paraspinal muscles perform a eccentric/concentric contraction. We don’t live in a isometric world, but anyone who has any lumbar instability should definitely perform this exercise the way he suggests.

  • @metrock525
    @metrock525 Před rokem +2

    Great video! But one question, if you load it "properly" (for back extensors) and do the movement, for the back extensors, is that bad? Isn't that just a great exercise for the back extensors?? To work them not only isometric like they do in so many other exercises, but to work them dynamically as well?? I've learned a lot from this channel, keep it up!!!👍

  • @lostSempaiWissame
    @lostSempaiWissame Před 2 měsíci

    New favourite exercise

  • @achuck6327
    @achuck6327 Před měsícem

    Thanks! This was interesting

  • @iuseutubeoften
    @iuseutubeoften Před rokem

    Already doing deadlifts and squats ; If your trying to strengthen lower back then hinging at the hips is not the best ….. The lower back is only isometrically exercised any other way which includes squats , dead lifts , only isometrically exercises lower back. The length of the lower back does not change. The better way to strengthen lower back and improve in other other exercises is to have more shortening and lengthening of the lower back muscle as in the first part of this video. This can be done under low load depending on how strong your lower back is.