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Some in Baltimore still bitter about Colts' move
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- čas přidán 3. 01. 2013
- A local restaurant displays Baltimore Colts memorabilia, including a miniature coffin in memory of the team's former owner, Bob Irsay, which reads, "I will not move the Colts out of Baltimore... He lied, he died."
The Ravens have won more Super Bowls than Indianapolis.
Don’t worry the Colts franchise has more Championships than the Ravens franchise. Eat on those apples..
@man22 The colts only have two super bowls. The first in Baltimore, the second in Indianapolis.
@@mr.smithers1829 The Baltimore Colts have one of those Super Bowls. Not one game that year was ever played in Indianapolis, and most of the players lived in Baltimore. You can steal the franchise, but not the history.
@John Foster The BALTIMORE COLTS won Super Bowl V. You ca try all you want, but it was the Baltimore Colts, not the Indianoplace Colts that won that game..
@John Foster First of all, it is 'they're', not there. Second, try as you might, you can not rewrite history. Baltimore has THREE Super Bowl victories, to go along with our THREE World Series victories, to Indianapolis's one Super Bowl.
Indianapolis Motor Speedway was actually a horse racing track before it converted to car racing.
Actually, they are named after the horses on Assateague Island.
I've lived in Tennessee all my life. I grew up on the Colts. Unitas, Mike "Mad Dog" Curtis, the list goes on. In my heart I'll always be a B.Colts fan. Leaving in the middle of the night? Cowards. It is what it is...
@Serenity Now I'll never understand why Houston didn't name their expansion team the Oilers. Unless it was a legal issue.
The Titans have had sporadic success but can't win the big one (they came one yard away once!)
Cry me a RIVER.
Blame the politicians of Baltimore who treated the Colts like garbage.
@@JonathanMoosey agreed.....
Why on earth would you not be proud of your home town team? They certainly allowed us Ravens fans to embarrass ourselves at home last January in a game we were widely expected to win. Titans have probably been the Ravens biggest rival over the years.
It hurts because the Colts kept the name and moved to a different city. When NFL teams do that, it’s a big F U to their old town. At least the Browns changed their name to the Ravens so one day Cleveland could have it back if they wanted it. Same with Houston. It’s really frustrating to see the team for which you rooted so many years come visit from another city. 30+ years or not, I can understand the animosity.
I feel awful for those in SD after the Chargers left for LA after 56 years.
Totally agreed. The Colts name was much more relevant to Baltimore than to Indianapolis, so the team should've changed its name when they left and left it for the old Browns to adopt when they came to Baltimore. (Also, I think part of the reason why the Oilers changed their name is because that name isn't as relevant in Tennessee as it is in Houston.) I still have hope that someday if and when Irsay's family sells the Colts, they'll give their name and IP back to the Ravens and the Indy team will change its name.
@@DDDiego The Chargers were born in LA unlike the Rams and Raiders and unlike those two franchises including the Colts, the Chargers never left SoCal for another state. Two things most people are so ignorant of.
@@sjdrifter72 I know that but I still feel bad for the people of San Diego. They lost what was a big part of their city to another city miles and miles away. Not to mention, most San Diegans HATE Los Angeles
Houston should get back the Oilers name but since it’s “retired”, they can’t use it. I say call Houston the Oiler since Oilers is retired. Who needs an S.😂
“Maryland has a rich history of horse racing”
Kentucky: “Am I a joke to you?”
Johnny Roberts both have horse racing history. Ky has the derby, Maryland has the Preakness stakes. They’re not saying one has more history, they both have history.
Maxwell H. 44 I’m aware of this, I just wanted to make this joke. I personally find the Ravens name as a better fit for the city
Johnny Roberts you didn’t use the joke right
Kentucky. The land of beautiful horses and fast women...
The politicians of Baltimore are the reason the Colts left Baltimore. I was a lifelong Baltimore Colts fan, and it took me a long time to realize that the city is to blame, not Irsay.
Besides, Baltimore got a team back the same way Indy got a football team: by stealing one.
@@mach6893 The team Baltimore stole from Cleveland came back in 1998 as an NFL expansion team.
Hyman Pressman, the same jerk who made the Royal Farms Arena Boxy with stage at one end. No wonder some sporting and entertainment events don't want to come here.
I’m a Browns fan and I feel that the municipal officials are also to blame.
No the politicians in Maryland are to blame the city of Baltimore wanted to build a dome stadium to keep their 3 teams. The Maryland state government just wouldn’t fund anything.
The colts may still be there if not for that bush league move of eminent domain.
Baltimore has every right to be bitter about losing the logo, colors, name, and history of the Colts. Irsay was wrong, and sports billionaires should pay for their own stadiums instead of fleecing taxpayers.
At the same time, Baltimore does need to get over losing "a team". The same city that lost a team got a new team at another city's expense. Not just any other city, but Cleveland. Once you get a team back, and your new team wins a championship before your old team does, you should let the past go. Baltimore got screwed, but Cleveland had it worse.
And no I'm not a Browns fan. Never was.
And stl and la both got screwed the worst. They saw a combination of what model did to Cleveland (without the fake expansion browns a the Lerner idiot owners) and what Bob irsay did to the city of Baltimore.
I still think, you threaten eminent domain, then pass it with the governors signature waiting to be put on it. I have a small idea what I would do. The fact that they had State police escorts once they got into the state is telling and that they took a different route for each truck to Indianapolis.
The stingy people of Baltimore denied a proper stadium, and they got angry when the team left?!
So you are for extorting cities when the owner does not get what he wants despite the history of the team and the fanbase?
The marching band was the real reason we have a football team back in Baltimore!
Go Seattle Super Sonics and Pilots
You know what REALLY gets on my nerves about most Baltimore Colt fans that put something on youtube is that they hardly EVER say anything about Ted Marchibroda (head coach) & Bert Jones, Lydell Mitchell & ROGER CARR players of that era it's always Johnny Unitas & the players from that era & don't get me wrong because i love them too BUT the Baltimore Colts were still a very GOOD football team through the 70's & really until the end of them in 1984. I'm 55 & am from Greenville S.C. & was a HUGE BALTIMORE Colt fan & my time with them was in the 70's & early 80's era handed down to me from my father who came up through the Johnny Unitas era & although i was just a small kid i can remember some of the Johnny Unitas games, yeah i LOVED them Baltimore Colts they were and always will be my favorite NFL team by FAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!
They weren’t a great team in the early ‘80s, but there’s no denying that the Baltimore Colts did have a rich history in the NFL
That makes two of us .grew up watching the colts in the 1970's.bert jones was the man!!!!!!
@@marktaylor1176 me too.. Number 7..Bert Jones..the Monday Night games vs New England..Joe Washington..beating the Deadskins on MNF..Chuck Thompson and Vince Bagli on WCBM..memories..
Bitter about the Colts moving while cheering for the Ravens. What frauds
The Ravens are the successor to the Baltimore Colts in the NFL record book. The Ravens even have retired the old Colts players in their ring of fame.
Indianapolis’ Colts still gives our Johnny U’s number to random rookies.
I was born in 1960, yes I remember the Baltimore days. As a bystander, the Colts left Baltimore in the middle of the night, but what did Cleveland do when they came to Baltimore to become the Ravens?
I call it more of a heist than a move.
Some , if not all, of the Baltimore Colts made Baltimore their home after their playing days ended.
Buddy go to Indiana can’t go 1 fucking mile without seeing a horse maybe not downtown but I doubt that you have horses and colts walking around downtown Baltimore
Obviously not downtown lmao but the fucking Preakness stakes are here lol guarantee you Baltimore has a way bigger horse history than indiacrapolis
Ironically Art Moddel is hated just as much in Cleveland as Bob Irsay is in Baltimore.
I'll forever hate Bob Irsay and the "Indiapolis" plunderers......
Who?
The biggest villain in all this was Paul Tagliabue. Fans and media in Balto. were not real sanguine about taking the Browns from Cleveland. Tagliabue screwed Balto. and gave expansion franchises to Charlotte, North Carolina and Jacksonville, suggesting Balto. should "build a museum." (Its not like we didn't have the Walters and the BMA!) You try to tell me whether these two franchises put together--along with the intangibles like sports history--are today worth as much as the Ravens! Additionally the ultimate Tagliabue insult was allowing Cleveland--Modell was a class act--to keep its name, colors, and history while insisting on no such provision for Colts fans in Balto.
What about Hyman Pressman the city comptroller, who convinced Baltimore voters to pass a referendum banning public funds from building stadiums?
HotWax93 Yep you're right and Colts fans didn't fill their existing stadium during the last decade or so before they left town.
@@hotwax9376 I actually think Hyman Pressman was a hero. Public funds should never be used to build luxuries like sports stadiums. Let the billionaire owners pay for their own stadiums.
@Fairfaxcat Taglianoob gave Baltimore the short end of the stick. I agree with you on that. Taglianoob was in cahoots with Jack Kent Cooke, who expected Baltimore to root for the Potato Skins (i.e. the ***Skins.) He gave Baltimore no choice but to steal a team. Ironically, Art Modell voted against the Colts moving to Indy and tried to stop Irsay from doing so. Here's a quote from Model lhimself back in 1984: "We can't hopscotch franchises around the country. We have built this business on the trust of fans. If we treat that as if it doesn't count, it isn't going to wash." He was the most vocal opponent of the Colts move to Indy. It shows how much of a hypocrite Modell was.
By the way, Taglianoob let Cleveland keep the name, colors, and history of the Browns for two reasons:
1. He knew that he was to blame. If he gave Baltimore the Ravens as an expansion franchise, Baltimore politicians would have never contacted Modell.
2. Cleveland would have sued the NFL otherwise.
Mach68 Thanks for your providing more context. I did not know Modell opposed the Colts move. Do you actually think a Cleveland lawsuit would have been successful? From media accounts I have heard owners have a fairly strong hand in franchise moves.
Art Model lied (lost the team), then he died. Ironic how similarly Baltimore stole the Browns (Ravens) from Cleveland as Indianapolis stole the Colts from Baltimore. Baltimore doesn’t like this inconvenient truth.
If it’s “only a game”, I certainly think that Baltimoreans should forgive Bob Irsay.
Well I'm still bitter even Ravens won 2 super bowls. Why couldn't Jim Irsay done the right thing when his dad died in 1997 that was give Baltimore Colts name back? Its true some people when their ruthless father dies taking something that doesn't belong to them they give it back. Look The Browns fans have no more hard feelings towards Ravens now because The Modell Family no longer owns them. But Jim Irsay still owns the Colts so as long the Irsay family still owns them ill still hold a grunge to Indy fans and their team.
I know this post is a year old but cleveland browns fans are actually still mad at us only because we won two superbowls that could have been theres. Jim irsay was asked to give the name back and refused which makes me hate him a little more im not sure on the exact date but hopefully we stomp on them in the first preseason game.
+Richard Henckel Remember Jim Irsay planted a tree to ask forgiveness during playoffs? Well the only way ill forgive his dad if he ether replace that horseshoe logo or give the name colts back. Look Cleveland,Oakland and now Los Angeles are allowed to get their name and colors back. The NFL wouldn't allow Baltimore and Houston get their old tradition back. Thats one of the reasons i hate the Browns cause its not fair to Teams had their traditions taking away from them.
i didnt hear about that but i'll agree with you. alot of ex baltimore colts even said they have nothing to do with indianapolis
+Richard Henckel I know even Johnny Unitas wanted his records off the Indianapolis Colts
+Steve D theres also supposedly something on his tombstone about it but i think thats possibly a rumor somebody started
Lol these people have abandonment issues
1:45-2:00 is what really gets me. I'm a Cowboys fan and was born some time after the Colts left Baltimore, but I have to agree with their assessment of Irsay. And given where the name came from, it only makes sense IMO that they should have been allowed to keep the name. I still have hope that maybe the Colts' intellectual property will be given to the Ravens someday and the team change its name to something else.
Irsay only said he wouldn't move the Colts after he was rejected by Phoenix, where the Colts originally had planned to move.
And love the ravens cause of Ray Lewis and Trent difer
Dude Trent dilfer is the hands down worst qb to play in a Super Bowl. That’s why to this date he’s the only qb to be released after winning one.
You damn right were still upset. When the Colts go to Los Angeles then ill move on.
Never going to happen the city of La just did to stl what bob irsay did to your city and art model did to the city of Cleveland.
They belong in baltimore. the name we got from the preakness steaks held in baltimore, and indy has racing cars? THE COLORS AND NAME BELONG HERE!
I bleed black and purple India a has lots of horses to
Ian Pax but the point is car racing is more important in Indiana than horses are
@@baltimoreboy4108 still racing
I'm going to Utah to hear the some Jazz...not.
@@rockvilleraven I recently got mauled by a grizzly bear... in Memphis!
Maybe a trip to see the beautiful lakes of Los Angeles will help me recover.
That’s why I don’t even like Indy they promised not to move the owner got drunk in press conference
Then pack up mayflower in the middle of the NIGHT! Then the band stayed together as one never ever gave up hope and then Art modell comes and wins two Superbowls
How do I know this well 30 for 30 the band that wouldn’t die
Its been in indy longer now. Ya had em for 30 years, weve had em for 35. theyre ours now. Get over it. And if anything, you provided a teamless city with football. Feel gracious.
pretty hypocritical to hate Indianapolis for “stealing” your team when you guys did the same exact thing in 95 stealing the browns from cleveland
Still mad?
Never forget they stole our team
Never forget that Baltimore is the beneficiary of a stolen team.
@@mach6893 we didn't steal the browns Cleveland still owned the team
@@yakamarezlife you stole Cleveland's team stop lying
No… Baltimore tried stealing Irsay team and he didn’t let them
at least they got the irsay trash.
Thing is the owner was completely drunk 😵
get over it already... i hate his reference about horse racing in Indiana...Just like are there lots of Lions in Detroit?? lol.. Plus remember Baltimore also stole the Browns
+Bradley Nichter This would be a great statement if any of it was true. Nice try though.
I think some of these people are more mad about not retaining the colts history and name. Atleast we gave the browns back they're name and when they were the best team in the nfl in the 50s but cleveland browns fans only care about the two superbowls that should have been clevelands. Also i understand this comment is old but it seems like you guys had a great draft
+Richard Henckel The City of Cleveland sued Art Modell to keep the name and history of the Browns. Baltimore didn''t give Cleveland anything.
+aceyfan i honestly wouldnt want clevelands history so im glad they got the name back regardless. thanks for the correction
+aceyfan Baltimore did the something they filed lawsuits against Bob Irsay because he broke his leese from Memorial Stadium. So Bob Irsay made a plea deal. He said he would give Colts name back when Baltimore gets a new pro football team. And guess what? We got Baltimore CFL COLTS and what did Irsay do? He stabbed us in the back again by taking baltimore to U.S Supreme Court by saying we cannot say Colts in Baltimore. You see how im right about Democrats? They're liars and they're communists. Bill Clinton was president when Jim Speros bought the CFL COLTS to Baltimore. But WHAT ABOUT the B.C LIONS? Why didn't Detroit sue them for that name and tell B.C you cant say Lions there? So KARMA Came to Hillary is why she's not the President now because she refused to divorce her husband back them when he cheated on her by fucking Monica.
Lol y'all need to get over it
Dilfer
Croc tears! #indysteam
Besides, Baltimore is the recipient of a stolen team too.
@@mach6893 So is Washington they stole the Expos from Montreal, the Football team from Boston and the Wizards formerly the Bullets from Baltimore.