Shifter: Question and Answer 44 (Mostly me talking about the new Leica M6)
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- čas přidán 27. 10. 2022
- Back with another question and answer. You ask and I do the talking. But this one has taken on a distinct flavor due to the first question I was asked. "What do I think about the rerelease of the Leica M6? I've owned four of these cameras, but the camera itself isn't the interesting part of the story. Oh no, this goes way beyond nuts and bolts. Quoting crazed politicians, I spin my web of history, voiding all relevant data and facts in an effort to simply "go with my gut." This event is but one making headlines in the photo community.
1. 1:14, What do I think of the M6 rerelease?
2. 30:34, What about sponsors for projects?
3. 31:00, What about selling prints, sizes, and editions?
4. 34:40, What about photo contests? - Zábava
As much as I know I’d love to talk about photography and book making (and consuming) with you, I would also like to carve out time for a writing tool discussion. Rollerballs, fountain pens, mechanical pencils, love it all. 🤓
m6, i had a feeling of who he may be talking about
@@Being_Joe not me
Excellent because i follow your work on YT, as well as I follow Dan’s work. Both références for me
Writing tools. How can something so simple have so much meaning? I need to fix my actual handwriting, something I've been dreaming about for several decades like learning opening chess moves, learning Arabic or finally starting a meditation practice. Speaking of books, Duane Michals. His handwriting is so much a part of who he is, and every time I see it I am reminded I could never do a book like that because my writing is impossible to read.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I love that. Never too late to do it. I've always wanted to learn calligraphy as I've been obsessed with looking at other handwriting and just enjoying handwriting myself. I've got all of my dad's work files with his handwriting (which I sorta modeled mine after when I was a kid and learning) and I want to scan them in to use his handwriting in the book about our years working together.
Looking at Leica's commercials of the "new" M6 it felt so clear to me that the main target is the guy who've been fed with thousands of street photography videos on youtube, the style is basically the same for many of these commercials. So they diversified a bit from being predominantly a jewelry brand and openly embrace this phenomenon of cool young-aged social media photography people. They identified a great target there, don't know how much it will sell but, surely, people are going to talk about this event (mainly on the internet) and Leica's aura might grow and glow accordingly.
That is exactly what I felt. I'm not sure why the street photography crowd is so impactful but they really are. I've never liked street photography really, so maybe I'm just biased in the sense that I got into photography to do long-term projects. Attached projects, and on those rare occasions when I search out photography, it is those projects I look for. Much of the street work I see just isn't very good.
Thanks for going in depth with the first question. All the context and backstory helped create a clear picture of different things to consider from many angles.
Finally somebody on CZcams that knows what they’re talking about. God I love these videos. Thank you for the long form.
Love me some long form. Books, films, talks, whatever.
Hi Dan, I had such a good time watching this! Made me laughing out loud when you ranted over the digital camera spill-out cycle, absolutely wonderful. The other highlight for me was you talking about the edition thing. Oh yes! Thanks a lot.
Just think about the digital landfill and what the digi cam explosion meant for rare Earth metals and the digital landfill. Yikes. And I still have friends who call themselves environmentalists. getting on planes each week to dart off for pictures.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 You nailed it!
Dan, you are a breath of fresh air. I value the no BS approach you take.
Gracias my friend.
You broke my heart with your comments about the M5 😢 😅.
I also had the M6 for a few months but it felt so "toyish" compared to the M5 which made me sell it again and continue to use solely my M5.
So YOU are the ONE! I knew someone out there would be correcting me on that!
And I am the Second One.
I make tens of thousands of photos every year I don’t print or know how organize photos. Photography for me has always been about the excuse to go somewhere, anywhere for the last 18 years. Now what I do is organize my photos extremely well on a website with several hundred thousand photos I’ve taken including old Polaroids scanned and saved. What I have found is so many of the younger generation in my family all the way to Germany, Ecuador and several states want and enjoy having access to these photos of our family history I’ve saved.
Every family needs a documentarian/historian.
Always good to tune back in to your videos, Dan.
I've been steadily building a skateboard business here in the lovely city of Austin so haven't had much time to shoot photos, but I have always appreciated your perspective on photography as an art-form.
As a millennial who stumbled upon shooting film in my early 20s (yes I happen to shoot primarily with an M6 haha) I agree wholeheartedly on your sentiments about reducing time spent on computer/phone screens. When time allows it you've inspired me to challenge myself and figure out how to produce a photo book of my personal work.
Cheers!
Wow Patrick, no job. I like the skateboard business. My cousin Tom, before he was killed, started one out in Denver. Decades before his time it was such a cool place. Best of luck on that. Books are the source man but be careful, they are addictive.
I love the Leica M-A. I think it is one of he best 35mm cameras I have ever owned. Even if every other Leica shooter hates the camera it really works for me and I enjoy shooting with it.
I didn't realize the M-A was disliked. I thought it just didn't have a meter. I think I would like one, glad you do!
@@TheSH1N1GAM1 I really dont think people dislike the MA. I dont think it is advertised or has the interested that the M10 and then the M11 does. The MA is so well build and a joy to use. I am not sure how many Leica makes and sells a year but it is probably less then the other bodies. Now the reintroduction of the M6 sales will likely be fewer.
The MA is a new M2 ;-)
This is my favourite channel. I’ve eliminated all the other B.S. channels. Thanks Daniel for the info and stories.
Thank you. I have dreams of what this channel COULD be but those are a long way off.
As always, great video Dan. And to set the record straight, I’m the one who told you about the crimping of the film leader on the M4. Stick with the M2. But, that aside you rock, you always will rock because you are a legend.
I think you told me everything about Leica. And conejos.
Shot my first roll of film in 20 years yesterday. How it happened was while in the process of digitizing old negatives, something happened to me while handling the film that made me miss film immensely. I headed into downtown Boston with a newly purchased Pentax K 1000 on one hip and the g7x on the other hip. I loved it. Beyond the cool Factor, beyond the hip counterculture Factor, I loved the simplicity of setting the aperture and the f stop and taking the time to manually focus. I loved the loud kir-klunk. I loved the deliberateness of it, and saving only the good shots for film, recognizing that there was something solid and substantial in my left hand and something more transitory and slightly less real and off the cuff in my right hand. It took a few hours to shoot off 36 exposures, but in the same length of time I shot close to 100 digital images with the Canon. I was even crazy enough to pick up film developing supplies. I have a ton of digital gear - DSLR s, GoPro, tg6 for underwater (yes, I generally have a camera with me at all times, even while swimming), all the lenses, etc. and will not be giving up shooting digitally anytime soon, but I think I'm going to enjoy this new/old diversion. But nah, no Leica for me. And after hearing what you and others are saying about it, I wouldn't be caught dead with the thing. Brilliant, as always.
You are doing it right, at least in my opinion. Do what feels right but do, do, do. Shoot and shoot and shoot. I love the sound of the mirror. I love the load and unload procedures. And I love the wait.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 yes, I love not seeing it. I was with a young friend yesterday, 30 something, I said, I have this new camera. It shoots film. I love the light on your face right now, let me take a picture. I snapped it and right away he said, can I see? It was a priceless moment.
Hi Daniel , i make more pictures than watch CZcams these days. Since I first tuned into you, i bought a new Leica film camera and have been using it with a single lens so far. It doesn’t do landscapes particularly well though that rangefinder view is amazing including knowing what’s going on outside the frame. The shutter is especially quiet. Knowing the limits of film and using film for almost a year I’ve become comfortable with the restrictions imposed by film : fixed ISO, low light challenges etc. I also use a Ricoh GRIIIx which complements the film camera. I really enjoyed this video / story. Thanks for reminding us what photography means. By the way my Leica camera is totally non descript. No brand or red dot. Just sheer black chrome.
Hey, that's the point. Go shoot. And it sounds like you are. It's funny, what you mention about the viewfinder and seeing what is happening is--for most users---a big deal because they use their right eye allowing for them to keep their left eye open to see what is entering the frame. I am right handed but LEFT eye dominant so this all gets lost on me.
I traded my M6 for an MP. Very happy to have the warranty. I got a Rewind Crank lever off EBay for $US55 for the rewind issue. Works perfectly. The MP seems smoother and more solid than the original M6. I use it for landscapes and you are so right that it is not the best camera. I have to change lenses inside the camera bag if there is mist. A zoom would be much easier. But that is the point. I have to try harder to get the shot. Zoom with my feet and get a different type of perspective. The sharpness of Leica lenses and the grain of HP5+ is a great combination and totally different from digital. I've had some amazing surprises with analogue. Process the film and just go Wow- how did I do that? Absolutely love the MP and I'm sure the new M6 is just as great. Cheers!
Smart. I shot a pro football game with an M6 once. I never shot action just hovered around the player box and the rest of the mutants on the field. Also know a guy who shot a story on NASCAR with M6.
Love the Q&A videos! Matt Black said continuing to shooting film started distracting people from his work as they were asking questions about why he was still using film instead of talking about the images so he went digital. I do love the process of shooting film though.
He's a thoughtful dude. And he's good with both mediums. I actually like people talking about film, at least when I am in the field. It always seems like an ice breaker.
Always love the videos Dan. I too am quite happy that Leica has brought back the M6, but at that price I'll just stick with my M4. Although I've never heard of the crimping trick, but also never had my camera jam on me, so I must be doing something right.
I got lucky when I found this one. Had a friend that found a great deal, had it serviced and sold it to me for what he had in it because he liked the work I was producing with my Voigtlander R2M and knew I'd be happy with a Leica. That was many years ago and I've never looked back the M4 and a 35 is all I need. I also make my own silver prints and people are always asking me to make bigger prints. When I get serious about selling them, I guess I'll get around to producing some. But until then I just enjoy working on my small projects and making images.
Thanks for another great video.
It figures that MY M4 requires the crimp.
One of your best videos. I appreciate you, brother. It must be my age (56) because I can relate to and laugh at your subtle jokes. BTW, people forget that Leica was nearing bankruptcy before the M6 came out. The M5 was a distaster, and Leica made the M4-2 in Canada to save money. The M6 was released with cheaper materials to save money. The M6TTL was actually the one where they changed the direction of the dial (I did a workshop in 2004 with Ralph Gibson and he hated the new direction), so the M7 was the same direction, but actually better made with more brass and solid parts than the M6TTL. I’ve owned the M3, M4, M4-2, M6, M6TTL and M7. The M3 was the king for it’s build and 0.91x viewfinder, closely followed by the M4 and then the M7, IMHO.
Interesting. I totally forgot about the M4-2. I had ONE friend who had one but it was in the shop a lot. My M4P was pretty solid now that I think about it. The M3 should come with a royal appointment of some sort.
Superb film as always Dan! I’m trying so hard right now to not go out and get myself into a world of debt by buying a Fujifilm X-Pro 3!!
I have one on loan. It's a really nice camera. I love the screen that must be flipped out to be used.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 yeah. Every digital camera I have had that does it, I have turned the screen off. That camera would be perfect for me.
Kinda surprised by you liking the idea, good perspective laid out too. I get it.
I hope Nikon re-re-introduces the SP or S3 like they did in the early 2000's
I hear they are having issues launching their latest digital cameras. I think film might be a stretch. Apparently, the Z8 is half a year late. But when you have to buy your sensor from Sony.....
Nail it with the hipster Ricoh thing and the Leica geeks just buying their cameras for the look. I’ve seen that so many times. I’ll add that the ones who actually shot with Leica and have a CZcams channel, mostly shot the same kind of pictures in the same areas with the same film, which is sad because they look to be unique and in the end they all are the same cliche.
Iceland and the California desert should be fenced off and require passports. Anyone with Portra, M6, Land Rover, drone instantly detained. Anyone caught photographing old buildings jailed for 30 days. Anyone talking more about film and camera than actual photographs banned forever from using internet.
Hi Dan. Hi from Germany. Thank you for the good q&a video. I like them all.
I have a bookmaking question.
I only shoot film (b&w, 35, 6x7, 4x5) develop and enlarge them all by myself, don’t have a digital camera. Ok, a cellphone. Now I have once again have finished two projects and think about a different way of carrying them around as in a box or glued into a booklet (hand made by a bookbinder in the neighborhood).
What would be your approach.
Thank you from Hamburg, Tilman
Hey Tilman and hello Germany. I would do both prints and a book. Both small. I have a 5x7 print box I love using. And I love the 6x9, softcover book size. The book will allow you tell a story, adding text and context if you will. The prints are confrontational now, in a good way, as the viewer must put down their phone to engage.
Thank you. I will go for it. 👌🏻
I just want to say I love the M5. I am just a amateur /prosumer / artist / whatchawannacallme but I love it. And my M2 :-)
That's okay. You can love it. I love the Merkur XR4Ti. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkur_XR4Ti
Does anyone know if there's a way to mount my Fujifilm 100-400 4.5-5.6 onto a film camera?
Mirrorless has a short flange distance so that will probably not work with anything film. For this reason you also probably won’t be able to find an adapter to do this.
@@LyndonPatrickSmith thanks bro
Yikes, no idea. Sorry.
Hey Dan, From Belgium here, everytime i listen to you speak on anything i get very motivated to work and focus on the essentials, of being present, taking in the moment and not letting the toys distract you. Now i was curious i heard alot about these classes and stuff but can we in some way sign up to follow a course from you IRL? thanks in advance :p
So, I'm teaching in person in both Albania and Peru in 2023. I am also thinking of co-teaching an online class with Elena Dorfman.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 and is there a way to sign up for these?
My plate has now crashed to the floor and I’m stuck back at ephemera. I know people who collect it and that stuff can stay around for a long time as well. Recalling The Hunt for Red October, I now know what all the hubbub is about. If I were shooting all the time I might get a Leica but the top three features for me would be size , speed and a viewfinder.
Ephemera can teach us quite a lot. Not a bad place to be mired.
Analog lives! I shoot with my Fuji GSW690iii and my Nikon F2A WAY more than my Fuji X-T3. We'll see if it's just a phase...
It's quite the thing these days.
I work as a software engineer and a couple of years ago made the switch to analog mainly to expend less time in front of the screen, did not want my hobby to be in some way so close to my work
I hear ya. That makes sense.
9:09 Funnily enough, wildlife photography, mainly of birds, is what I do with my Leica kit. Visoflex III mirrorbox accessory combined with Leica's Telyt telephoto lenses. Such as 40cm f/5 Telyt II, 280mm f/4.8 Telyt II etc.
Where there is a will there is a way.
Hi Dan, in an interview I saw with the marketing mgr he said the black paint is as the M11 and is not supposed to brass. I have an M3 double stroke, it was all compromise after that.
M3 is legend. Good to know about the paint. My guess, people will find ways to brass it.
Loved this video as someone who takes many of my family photos with an incredibly beat up duo of M2 and M4-P. I’m glad the new M6 exists, I can’t afford one, I love my Leicas (and Voigtlander lenses) and am always amazed by the crazy Leica fetishism, which I would probably succumb to if I had infinite money. I think using Leica as a mere mortal with ordinary money is like living in New York City. It’s fun, you get to experience a part of a (maybe long over?) golden age, there’s a lot of super overpriced stuff around everywhere, but the cheapo version is still pretty sweet, while also being a pain. It’s worth it…. if you have a certain set of priorities.
I have no business pointing fingers at the fetish crowd. I just got off my titanium bicycle and am surrounded by my fly fishing kit.........
I recently bought a Nikon F4, but it weighs four tonnes so I ordered a mint Canon EOS 1N for like $200. Just wondering what EF lens I’ll get and I’m tossing up between the Canon 35 F2 or the Tamron 45 1.8, was thinking the Canon 50 1.4 but Dan reckons it falls apart every two days.. lol I’m sure my images will look the same as an $8000 Leica.
Well, it's a far more flexible camera than the Leica. I had terrible luck with that 50mm but that was YEARS ago so I'm sure you would be fine now.
Let’s talk about that cap. Legendary
good point about archiving shit .. some thing a lot of people don’t consider and everyone should be thinking a out it , if you care about your work/photos/memories !! . the physical , still has a place in the world !!
I find that a lot of younger photographers missed out on the idea that people license work. And they do so over time. This is how many older photographers survive. Make good work that holds value and one image can pay off again and again over time. But you need to have a good archive and most people do not.
The M5 is the most amazing Leica ever. It’s like corduroy pants. No one wants it, but cosy to wear.
I knew someone would come to the M5's defense!
About digital vs analogue in terms of preserving I agree in part...I mean I use now just digital and I have everything in three different places, in order to have a redundancy...it's true that film probably in 100 years will be there...but...if you are a "famous" photographer, your digital work will be preserved anyway...if you are an unknown photographer like myself (or I think to my grandpa that for example documented WWII, his life and the one of his family, or his father that took pictures at the beginning of the XXth century) you have to hope that your family will take care of...In our case, my family I mean, there is my aunt that is taking care to preserve the family's memory, probably I will keep her job the day she will be too old, but then? Now she is copying everything digitally because the number of films is huge...for instance, I couldn't keep everything at home right now. I have found a mix, I shoot digitally and then I print the "best" in 5 copies, so the ones that one day will want to have can get them. Anyway as usual great content.
I think if your famous and you shot film, maybe your work survives. If you are famous and shot digital, very unlikely unless there is a plan in place before you die. Continuing to update digital archives is SO expensive and time consuming. Maybe the only real hope is a cloud based approach but even that hasn't worked so far.
I want what Dan has for breakfast….he’s supercharged ⚡️
Smoothie. My fav food of all time. (really) frozen blueberries, spinach, half banana, RAW MEAL, chia seeds, KION amino acids, KION colostrum, beet powder, water. Then prepare to lift off.
Can someone explain this ”crimp the leaver” thing on the M4?
Now bring back the digital rebel!! That hot matte gray one
That is hilarious. My father had a Russian made plastic camera in his truck when he died. That thing was a gem.
I’ll take my Nikon f2 out more than my m6 (titanium), anyday.
Better focusing , more accurate.
More accurate framing
Better lens options , even macro
Downside, it’s loud. I don’t care about that. I’m out shooting, don’t like it? Go hide inside then, people. 😂
Keep it up, best CZcams channel on photography.
Ohhhh, titanium.....there you go. A SLR is often far easier to use. The Leica really takes practice and commitment.
Hey Kent “the dorf” dorfman, cannot go wrong with a animal house reference….
Your name is.....Flounder.
Digital archivists know how to do digital preservation, but you're right, it's a lot more upkeep and money.
A lot more. And you can't just toss out the old archiving methods because if they aren't forward compatible you are in real trouble. Not to mention you have to keep staff who knows how the older platforms worked.
Hey Dan, do your research 😉 The new M6 uses the same matte black paint as the M11, which is supposed to be tough as nails and won't wear down to the brass nearly as easily as the black lacquer used on the MP - unless, of course, you take a belt sander to it like the nuts who want a Jim Marshall clone.
They will and it will. Guaranteed. Belt sander prices are spiking....
He slid in a Glengarry Glen Ross quote. Did you catch it, people?
If you bought an MP in 2012 you’d have a MP in 2022… if you bought a Fuji in 2012 you have x-Pro 1-2-3 XT-1/2/3/4….. that’s why Leica are priced where they are. Damn things keep on clicking
For sure. A bud sent me an image of his 63-year-old Leica and said "It has never failed."
I got the Animal House reference.
Good. can we dance with your dates?
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Only if you can tear out the table in front of us
They have a green black ink??
Oh yes, and it's glorious. I would, however, get the 0.7 as opposed to the 1.0.
hahaha 12:22 is speechless and very exact
This will take several passes. Remember the guy on Ed Sullivan that got all the plates spinning? I Feel like one of those plates.
I think that's life now.
Question for your next q&A:
What is your favorite fish to fly fish for? And, have you ever produced a project about fly fishing?
Any question about fly fishing is a good question.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 i am going on my first ever fly fishing excursion next month. Any tips or tricks would be appreciated haha
You will hear about trout & salmon ad nausea, but when it comes to pound for pound fighting, it's hard to beat small mouth bass (really) and if you can arrange it, bone fish in the salt water flats.
@@chbrownie18 I appreciate it!
I’d be interested to hear why you kept buying M6’s while it seems to me other models would fit you better. Let’s see
1) you don’t care about the meter
2) you prefer the old style rewind knob
3) you only(?) shoot 35 and 50 (and I think it’s nicer to not have two sets of framlines appear at once)
In my book, that makes M2 the winner. Or maybe M2 with 35 and M3 with 50. The only feature that, in my opinion was an upgrade with M4 and beyond is quicker loading. And that can be fixed by either modifying an M2/M3 or by having multiple take-up spools so you can pre-load and do simple drop-in film changes.
The M6 was a dime a dozen. Every photographer I knew had one and most rarely used them, so they were easy to find and cheap to pick up. Many photographers who worked with SLR's and zooms would also carry a Leica with TRIX, as I did. The difference is I dropped the rest and committed to Leica while many others chose to sell.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 A friendly reminder that a working pro just grabs one that works and burns trough hundreds of rolls of film while the procrastinating amateur keeps on comparing the different models :)
The new M6 is an MP with an M6 dress ... I'd take an M2 over any other M. I have two MP and put rolls after rolls in them - they hold up as good as any M2, M3 and M6 I had. The reason I like M cameras and lenses - they last forever, I truly do not feel the need to upgrade at all.
Nah, if you have MP's then this baby would be a retread. I've actually had quite a few issues with my M's but I still love them.
Thanks for the rant! I really don‘t see the added value in the new-old M6. The M-A and MP are on the market so why the M6? If you wanna reintroduce an M, choose the M7 with its AEL. In the official Leica videos about the launch there are a lot of content creators to be seen. Absolutely cool for them but is that the heritage that Leica is based on? Or is that where they want to head to?
But who am I to critique….
PS: I might need to read up about Pearl Harbor it seems 😅
Hey M, I don't think they care about heritage. They want to sell units and content creators are everyone's first choice for nearly everything. I'm about to podcast and I'm speaking about this very thing when it comes to the new Fuji and Sony cameras and the "reviewers" who get these cameras then never shoot anything that helps someone like me know whether the camera works or not.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 well if you‘d be shooting half naked models with the eye-track-af those reviews would be right up your alley.
I am literally watching this video while on a solo photo walk with my Leica - and I’m a girl 😂. I definitely recognize I am in the minority but I am beyond a geek for the gear and my whole channel dedicated to the nerdness. And while I know I am in the minority I know I am not alone.
I found you! I knew you were out there. We need more of you to tip the scale back toward the center.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 I definitely try to highlight other females in this niche space but you’ve inspired me to create a video centered around the topic so thank you for that push.
It's so sad to live in a country where having a new sony is a dream, imagine having a brand new leica. But to be honest, my X-T3 is so mine that i love it. And i would die having one year of salary around here.
Everyone I know loves the XT3. The 4, not so much. Odd. I think I could be happy with just about anything. Sony, Fuji, Nikon, etc. What I want is more time in the field.
I did not quite understand your rant about the M7. AFAIK, the shutter speed dail behaves exactly like an M6 dail (exept the added A marking). I don"t own one, but all pictures on the internet show the exact same turning direction of the dail. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think the M6TTL was the first cam that had the dial reversed, so even before the M7. But I did learn the M7 was constructed very solidly. Perhaps better than the M6.
I agree about your view on the M6, I have the M6TTL purchased on trade for a Pentax 6x7 1st model. I almost never used the weight course. My M3 now 55yrs old, looking it! A Leica group asked me NOT to show images of Ziggy. Yup! M3 has a name! So off I went with the M6. Shutter wrong way round, a frame finder so bad, words fail. Stiff winding. It's 22 years later! Smooth as my M3! The frame finder now understood! It' a small camera, very flat to be under a shirt, jacket, parka. Original lenses with 39mm diam. are tiny. What modern camera, even faulty as this will be running in 22 years? Yup! I use mine! Professionally it's a no. Digital has made images needed for yester week. Insanity. I am retired. Question! How do folks see monster size prints looking thru small finders, screens with a camera box, size of my palm?? Please get rid of the cap. Please.
Leica groups. Can be dangerous places apparently.
I agree with your pied piper theory.
Bizarre but it works.
Bloody hilarious on the Leica's....Telling it straight up as always. Brassing with a Steel wool? wow! You've got to be seriously deficient between the ears to 'age' a perfectly good camera.
Always makes me laugh when I see internet Portra worship - the only folks who think that shit is gold have never shot boatloads of K64, or damn near anything else. They shoot it for absolutely everything! Ha! Ha! Ha! should have named it "Landsca" 400. What do I know, I just used it decades ago for portraits; and I didn't really care for it then either!!
Portra is a good film. I don't know what they offer now but it used to be sold in three flavors. VC, NC and UC. Varying levels of contrast and color mostly. But the real beauty of that film comes with push processing, something that seems to allude many of the modern users. Skin tone in particular was where it shined. Most of the LA high volume shooters used the NC version and NOBODY rated that film normal and hardly anyone processed it normal. And remember, when Portra arrived the Vericolor folks dug in their heels.
I am not listening to you and my wife, I am buying the new M6.
What do we know? Get it.
Who's Jimmy Marshall???
Just a guy dressed as another guy playing another guy. Music snapper.
Oof, stories of losing a digital archive hits too close to home. It's the main reason why I really have lost almost all interest in digital. Plus I'd rather deal with negs living in a binder than files on some drive or wherever.
It is one of the white elephants in the room.
I personally see the M6 release as a money grab. I had one way back around 2001 and I know I didn't pay what they are asking for it. Granted inflation boosts the price but not 150%!
I paid less for all four of mine combined. No joke.
Mentioning Jetstream green/black in the same sentence as Leica M6? Brilliant! Film hipsters will swarm on that colorway!! Uniball is spinning up production right now!!! M6 2022 Brassing? Maybe not: czcams.com/video/HOJ9ppLK3_4/video.html
The green black should be kept in that seed safe in Norway or Finland or wherever that thing is. Precious. Should be kept for future generations as evidence of our sophistication.
I have to say I’ve never seen more than I think one woman in person using a Leica & that was walking past a Leica shop.
The M5 while it’s a Leica and they’re not for me is actually good but it wasn’t ‘a Leica’ so people didn’t like it. Genuinely improved on the m4.
The old rewind crank is absolutely awful and was one of many, many reasons I did t like the M2 someone lent me once.
Ha, so. many people have reached out saying" I broke my crank too!"
lens culture judges gave prizes to their buddies this year so there is shady stuff with this competition, too.
Ah, interesting.
If my Canon L3 rangefinder had parallax correction I would never be interested in a Leica.
funny as fuxk.. !!
The first plastic Bessa R beats all leicas anyhow. Much lighter, smaller and cheaper.
Gotta disagree here. I have two and they don't' hold up like the Leica.
Lol this yt channel has come full circle. Just look at who is in the comments now.
You are! Mr. Rowan.
touché, Milnor. I trust you catch my drift
When “the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor”? Do you sit around waiting to see if any one catches these? Like a few years ago “the salmon of Capistrano…” I stop in my tracks and admittedly crack up laughing.
m2 good
m3 near perfect for 50mm
m4 near perfect for 35mm
m5 what a freak but actually a competent camera
m6 junk
m7 scared the hell out of people
Interesting. I wouldn't go as far as the "junk" level but I do think some of the others you mention are better cameras.
Original M6, I loved mine, but far from being proWorthy.. Film!! Hipster CZcamsrs got Leica to bring the M6 back laugh out loud.. Are you 100% sure that LensCulture is out/based in France 🇫🇷 . Maybe a good time to go easy on the coffee..
LC used to be based in Paris. The founder also lives there, part time. No idea where they are now. I think film YT folks have some serious clout.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 LensCulture nowadays if you can believe everything you read from the internet are located in Amsterdam "(Europe) & Berkeley California.
CZcams film dudes there tripping big time. Bless em. I know of three CZcams channels what are actually knowledgeable and engaging and where you can learn and grow as a photographer yours is one of the channels.
What about the Leica MA? No Meter...
First time I went in a Leica shop a rich guy bought one. Probably as status symbol or investment, because he genuinely wasn't interested in the camera. Which was painful to see for someone loving photography and not being able to buy a Leica.
I only kept on shooting BW on film. It looks better than BW in digital in my opinion. Tried colour film after years again, but why should I ? Digital Jpegs from a compact camera look better.
For me it's about lifestyle and the look, mostly. There are certain types of light where digital just looks horrendous to me, in contrast to film in the same situation. I finally like digital after 25 years of using it.
Film fad will soon fade! 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
When it costs enough to deter. I hope not.
@@DANIELMILNOR505 Agreed.
Nikon-man gonna Nikon, and gonna keep calling it "Nee-kon" like a Japanese hipster.
What hipster about it?
It is the way the brand is pronounced in Japan... probably in most countries other than the US.
You ARE the Niiikon guy in my book. Never wavered. Always there. I appreciate that.
Lol. Nikon is a brand name that originated in Japan. It’s pronounced the way the Japanese pronounce it.
@@doubleletter Having lived in Japan for 6 years and speaking pretty good Japanese, and having Japanese hipster friends, I'm well aware.
@@StuartIsett 了解です🫡