Harley-Davidson's big mistake!
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- čas přidán 25. 05. 2024
- From 2018-2021 Harley offered their base Electra Glide for 19K. That bike was a price leader touring motorcycle that, for the money, had everything you needed to go touring right out of the showroom. Why would they stop production on their touring price leader?
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I too believe it was wrong that HD got rid of the Electra Glide Standard...I am not a fan of Bikes with Infotainment and Riding Aids...20K is as high as i would EVER pay for a Mororcycle...
I agree with you, somewhat. But HD makes those decisions based off sales. Most sub $20k buyers go used and get a lot more bike with very low miles.
@@freebehindbars8654 Yes its all about $$$...And thats where i part ways....Am out to get the Best deal i can....And that includes parts...service...and all the freebies i can
there's a lot of people that buy an HD that can't afford them
They killed off the Road King standard too. Blasphemy!
For someone who wants a fairing but doesn’t care about a stereo or tour pack, this makes sense and makes sense to me now. Years ago I spent a much of money on my Electra Glide Classic, changing the radio, added amplifier, upgraded front speakers, and added read speakers to the tour pack. In 2024, I don’t even turn the stereo on and took the tour pack and rear speakers off. 🤷🏻♂️ A standard Road King with windshield and hard bags is an overlooked gem as well.
Agreed Jerry, foolish decision to cancel the standard.
Not enough profit for....greed!
The Electra Glide Standard and the standard FLHR Road King had everything you need and nothing you don't and would be the perfect "entry level" touring bikes for today's sorry economy. Imho they were discontinued because they weren't profitable enough for the Motor Company. Pushing everything upmarket has its limits and I think will prove to be short sighted alienating a big part of their core customer base. Glad I got my '21 FLHR when I did- the Electra Glide Standard was my other choice.
Great Job, Jerry. You are spot on! Great price for a touring bike 1k miles!! Also a great empty canvas to make your own or full customization!!! Sad to see HD stop producing that bike.
Thanks! 👍
I had always owned Japanese bikes and still love them. I bought my 1st Harley in 2020 (Fat Boy) and I thought it was the nicest highest quality bike made. I've bought 3 more Harleys since and must say, they are phenomenally comfortable, build quality is 2nd to none. I was never a HD hater, simply had the Perception they weren't as reliable. At the end of the day I love riding a motorcycle, at times a sport bike, at times a cruiser and when going long distance My HD Ultra Limited. I don't understand the negative comments on either side, ride what you want, enjoy it and wish nothing other than happiness for everyone else!
💯 I own a Suzuki and a Road King.... love them both. Whatever mood I'm in, or what my plans for the day are dictate which key I grab.
Before I purchased my last motorcycle a 2018 road king, I was looking at an Electra glide and mentioned to the salesman that I didn’t want the radio, his reply was “ don’t turn it on “.
It wasn’t the best sales technique
Electra glide standard is a nice ride. Who needs a freaking stereo on two wheels.
Stereos on an HD just mask the sound of the real music coming from the pipes
I have a neighbor with a big full dress Harley with loud pipes on it, and a blasting stereo that has to be turned up loud to hear it over the loud pipes, because otherwise every person for a 1/4 mile radius might not be aware that the bike has a stereo and we might miss out on all that fun. And I dare not even hint at the silliness, no no no, because somebody might be offended, can't have that.
i do.
I never got the radio thing on a Harley either
I love listening to Seger and riding in the country! Puts me in a good state of mind. I always turn it down a little when I'm around a bunch of people or in town. I try and be respectful unlike some yahoos
From one retired law enforcement officer to another I have to say I enjoy your videos so much and always look forward to your take on any topic regarding motorcycles.
Stay well, Jerry !
They canceled it because they are trying to become basically the Rolex of the motorcycle world, according to the game plan of their CEO. They have over the last couple of years been axing all of their affordable value oriented bikes to focus on more and more expensive and exclusive motorcycles. The Street 500/750 (Their only beginner bikes), The Sportster/Iron bikes, The Softail Slim/Deluxe, The Sport Glide, The Road King (Base Model), The Street/Road Glide Special (Probably will be back next year or 2), The Electra Glide, have all been removed recently. Even the base model Pan America is gone leaving only the Special (Though for some crazy reason they came out with a CVO Pan America).
I like how the Pro Harley to the Core fanboys have run out of excuses for the brand. For a brand that loves to cry about losing money and blaming young adults for their lack of purchase, Harley does everything to not put bikes out onto the market that might at least get them a starter bike that they will later look to move up from.
@thespadestable nah, I only ride Harley exclusively, I just don't like other bikes. Just srent up to snuff, however....... I love the bikes, the bikes are great, the company..... not so much. Willie G is one of the worst things thay could have happened to Harley. It's fine have all the high end bikes great. I have no issues with rising aids and stereos. Especially if you're regularly riding accross country or taking constant 150-500 mole trips in a single day. It gets tiring without SOMETHING, which us why I bought a Helmet with Bluetooth so I can listen to tunew, however they need to keep the other bikes as well. Keep what sells, don't force people into stuff they don't want. Only thing I will say Harley has done right as a company is to keep the V-Twin and develope thay further than anyone else has, and to keep the iconic sound. Some of the newer bikes they've come out with and then discontinued before they ever even got off the ground were great. I'd love to get an FXDR but they did away with them quickly.
@@fantacmet develop them further? you mean with a throw away crank and plastic engine parts?
Wow, I didn't know HD touring motorcycles are the most maneuverable heavyweight motorcycles money can buy! I guess I'd better junk my Goldwing. I'm so disappointed. I just got it broken in at 150,000 miles and apparently, it's already obsolete. Hopefully a new HD will also have a smoother ride and get more than the measly 250 miles between fuel stops that I currently get. And I'm sure getting tired of being able to buy regular 87 octane, and the laughable 125 mph top speed.
Always appreciate your videos and reviews. A dealership a couple of hours from me has a ‘16 Electra Glide Police with under 20k miles, which I want to see once I get the time, unless they sell it by then…
Great review I own a 21 standard .My first big Harley touring and I love it didn’t want the stereo and got it a great price. Thanks Jerry for all your instruction it has helped me a lot with these bikes 👍
Yep you’re right. I bought one and added some leg guards. Toured all
Over Europe and just got back from a trip through Spain. 👍🏻👍🏻
Are there HD dealers in Europe?
@@terry_willis yes
I have a 22 EGS and love it I’ve done a few mods to her and added some red touches because of the badging
IMHO…I believe the RK and/or Street glide are the best as far as moderately priced touring models. You can add a bat wing, pizza box, etc and it looks just like a road glide…for less money. I have both a RK and a SG, and I put on 10-15k miles traveling cross country every year so I may have some experience here. Oh and btw, my wife is 4’10” and she rides an RK as well. Like I said before, just my opinion.
Greetings from Toronto Canada, as always I have enjoyed all your educational/safety video's and thank you for that . I find here in Toronto new HD's start at $38,000 to 50k , I don't see the logic of those prices, so I gently used Kasaki Vaquero like the one you test drove ,I love it , 2018, 9570 km on it only 14k ,Thanks for all you do ,Cheers to all .
I agree with you Motorman. I really liked that model. Hated to see it go away. Great video.
Thanks 👍
That's a good deal, just bought a 21 Electra Glide Standard w/ABS for $17,500 on 5/16/24 had 9200 mi. from my local HD dealer. Wish I had seen this first. Thanks Jerry
Fantastic bike and fantastic price! I totally agree!
Thanks for the video Motorman, you can always get a good deal on used and a lot of times they will have all the goodies added.
Great video jerry i ride a 2001 ultra classic electra glide 1448 cubic inch its not top end fast but its so smoothe and i know it will never break on me because i dont hot rod it like the street bikes do around me
Have 99 UG and other UG's these bikes are the best and the ride is the best to. Harleys aren't the expensive. The used are very reasonable. Yeah brand new show room bikes aren't cheap. It's not hard to put a radio in a standard or a used police bike. Do anything with them with the aftermarket or harely parts.
Ride them all day and not break your back.
I'm stripping one down to a SG like bike. I'm getting a 10 yr UG next year to replace the my 99 UG for long hauls. I won't own any other motorcycle.
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I bought a street glide standard. It's pretty much the exact same bike except the radio system. I would appear that I damn sure paid for that!
Hi Jerry, I didn't know about them having a new location. I'm back in Spring Hill Peace and E street, fence with all the flags stop in sometime. Brother is Rlliot tinkers on cars.Bought 07 RK yesterday Blue with whitewalls fish tails.
They cancelled it because it wouldn’t sell. It’s not because people didn’t like the idea, its just that for only a few thousand more you could get nicer finishes, more colors, a radio of some kind and passenger seat with a street / road glide. It didn’t make any financial sense. I like the idea but was always so perplexed Harley (who prides themselves on fit and finish) sent that bike out with just a useless “glove box “ staring at the rider. They are a good value at used prices I’ll admit
Yea but they got rid of all standard touring but it’s like I’ve said before really the 107 for every day use are weekend you can’t beat it but I’m afraid HD is going in the direction they all are especially with the 24 SG RG because they getting more less than the consumer can control and change
Exactly, it's all based on sales figures and it doesn't make sense to produce what doesn't sell very well. "Blank canvas" models like the base Electra Glide weren't hot sellers for H-D. Really the only guys who bought them in my area were MC club members, the few of them who actually bought brand new bikes. I'm surprised they even kept the Softail Standard for '24.
NOT TRUE, As a former sales manager at HD these aren't big margin bikes and that's why they went away. We sold all of these we could get our hands on...
Seriously a few thousand more how about $10,000 more for the street glide
I personally would never buy a new Harley but am glad somebody is so I can buy cheap used bikes.
Another good video, great information, you have knack of finding excellent bikes at the right price.
Thanks! 👍
you said it best nice bikes but very expensive ,with the way the economy is today who wants to dish out $20,000 for a bike !
I have '19 electraglide, its a mid 19 so it had the sumping problem, that gave me an excuse to upgrade the cam,redshift 468 with all the s&s.goodies and dynojet with auto tume,and it pulls all the way to 6200 and has all the tourque where i ride. Made it my own with all the custom dynamics lights and 10 inch handle bars for better riding posture.rinehart exhaust, all the usual upgrades,they are a blank slate for customization, I didn't go too crazy,Dunlop American elite tires were a great step up from factory rubber too.
Good presentation and now I know where my street glide st came from
One of the best values in a recent pre-owned tourer, seeing them consistently between $13.5 and $16k these days in my area
I love my super glide , ive been looking at the road glides but im having a hard time letn go of my dyna
what kind of pipes are on this motorcycle please let me know thank you.
Jerry, love your Challenger T/A! How many miles do you have on it?
I just bought the twin to it, only a 6 spd manual. Happy riding!
Good ride..😊
Mine is a 2017 with about 7K miles.
Agree the Electra glide should never have been cancelled. My bro has a black Twin Cam 88 Carby model and it still goes great. They are very rare to find now where I live. Ps I like riding up the highway on it. Such a great Harley bagger.
Jerry, you said and I agree, 18’ circles are damned difficult on a new goldwing. You were going to explain why and now I cant find the video. I prefer to stick with my wing but if I need to go street glide to win at slow manuvers tell me please!
The Wing has a 40 degree lean angle. That means despite having a longer wheelbase and rake than H.D. touring bikes, it can turn in 18 ft but you must lean it to it's limits. Then, to go from full lean left to full lean right quickly, as in the figure 8, takes strength and quick reflexes. In addition, the Wing has a very light flywheel. That makes the throttle very sensitive and difficult to modulate.
Also ordered a set of Tab Slip On Mufflers. Thinking of ordering taller shocks which ones do you recommend?
I have no problem with the stock H.D. 13'' shocks. But if you have the money to spend, Legend or Ohlyn.
@@motorman857 thanks for you response
That 107 has buckets of torque. Solid motor that will be around in 50 or more years from now. Zero problems from my 2020 softail slim. When harley discontinue's a bike...just hope you own that model. More than likely, It'll be worth plenty one day. Great tour bike!
I ended up buying a 2020 Ultra Limited after the dealership ran me off trying to hose me on a 24 SG. And I’m glad it happened because frankly with an Ultra Limited you can’t get more bike for the money.
I bought a 24 RG and I'm not liking it that much. It handles good but the clutch is terrible and the navigation system is an absolute travesty
You’re totally right! I don’t understand why they got rid of it. It’d sell well now that times are harder for pretty much the whole world.
1990 FLHS evo powerd since new . thats all I need
EVOs are the greatest engine H-D ever made. No worries about catastrophic failure due to cam chain tensioner issues, no injection, simple, basic but great runners
@@dabsafeI have the 92' flhs
how would this compare with the Vaquero? Probably could get a Kawi for like 3500 less than this and you get a stereo.
Fully agree Jerry! Great Videos and that is my ride! 2019
I have an 88 Electra Glide Classic , built like this standard from 88 . I love its design, only complaint is in 88 the bike was too heavy. I would love to ride the new standard Electra Glide. Never seen one in SR yet?
2019 electra glide police with the 114, just installed aftermarket stereo. Happy HD owner.
Just give it a couple years and they’ll be forced to bring out more basic packages
my 2020 flhtp police bike is pretty much the same thing. The police bikes and the standards
are a great deal good video.
I bought one because I loved the simplicity. It I’d a fabulous bike. Hate they stopped production.
You’re absolutely right on that EG! That’s a great price😎
I have that bike. Absolutely love it. I have done a lot of upgrades so it's not so standard any more.
That's my bike. I own a '22 model. That 107 has more power and tork than I'll ever use, it's no slouch. Couldn't be happier!
I like Harleys, but I'm a new rider riding a small 300 naked style sport, lightweight thing...lol......maybe someday....
motorman, did i hear you grind the boards??
Personally, I think HD are overpriced. The RK Classic for under 20k was a pretty good bargain. Most affordable tourers are gone.
Test ride this one and a Sport Glide for Mr first Harley…
That is a nice bike for 16k, people always want a new one, After my divorce I had to sell my softail, I recently bought a 2002 roadking, the thing is awesome. You are right, the Harley touring bikes are nimble, I can whip through turns pretty good with a 22 year old bike, I am sure the newer ones can do it a lot better.
I have a 07 flht now the 2022 street glide big difference love them Booth but more confident with 07
Love to have one myself
I bought my 19 EGS new and have really enjoyed it. The price and test ride were enough to convince me to trade in my Fat Bob. My only regret was not getting the ABS put on at the time of purchase. Overall, it's a great bike that took me to Florida and back without any problems.
You can stop the regrets. The dealer can't add ABS to a bike that didn't come with ABS from the factory.
Big Mistake! I bought Standards and added what I wanted.
You’re right on the money Jerry. I ride a 2008 Electra Glide Standard. Love this bike. You wanna listen to a radio, take the car.
Fr I hardly ever use my SG stereo
How much groceries will it hold?
No idea, BUT, it will carry 2 cases of beer ;)
I fall into the "don't want to pay that much" group, so I looked around and ended up with a20 year old road king 100 anniversary screaming eagle edition that had been owned by a certified harley technician. My wife found herself an older softail for a great price that needed a little work, which was done by our local dealer. Less than 20k for both, including the work from the dealer. We love the bikes!
i have a 2008 sportster 1200 low anniversary been riding it for 5 years. I just found a 2012 street glide 40,000 miles one owner and he treated it well sadly he passed away. I made an $11,000 donation to his widow and will keep treating it well. Getting ready to take the Ride Like a Pro class locally just before my wife and I take a 2 week vacation and cruise some states.
Jerry…how do ride in this HEAT?…my HD stays in the grange from May-October….WAY TOO HOT. Just miserable,
Well, I'm a cool guy so the heat doesn't bother me.
@@motorman857 Funny one…..lol.
This is a perfect platform to base a custom build on.
Love my ‘21 FLHT
I agree completely. They should never have cancelled this one.
Thanks motorman🤙😎💯
Hello,
I have been watching your videos and I am recently retired. I have had a life long dream of joining and riding in a 1% Outlaw Motorcycle Gang. Would you be able to teach me the basics I would need to be able to ride in a pack with them. I see them a lot where I live called The Pegens. I am looking to getting a road glide because I like how the steering wheel floats (haha I don’t know what you call it..handlebars ? I mean ). But that is my plan and main thing on my buck list before I die!
All the best nd thanks in advance sir!
Dingus☮
Yea I don’t think they should’ve gotten rid of any standard in the touring personally overall the 107 u really can’t beat it really all the big engine are nice but damn really often is anyone using it I could see if u was drag racing every weekend I do know they keep the RG standards are supposed to but who knows for 25 it’s just around the corner not to mention they are talking that they changing the engine in 27 r 28!so what now hybrids are electric it’s coming so get ready
It is a very nice box
I'm not sure who's the hardest to wrap my head around.... Harley or most of their customers I meet. I can't say that I'm a terribly big fan of this new look (modernization) that the manufactuer is pushing on the dealers and it really doesn't do anything for me (it's probably painful for them..... at least the setup). I also seem to meet all the low mile / no miles guys. I ride a Stage IV M8 131 (upgraded from 114) absolutely stripped down Street Bob (not a big fan of anything mounted to a bike..... never have been). I did try their original LiveWire not long ago..... I wanted to hate it, but that is quite a bike (more like a mid position Kawasaki with an electric motor and battery). It's pretty impressive, but the range is not there (plenty of torque and speed, but kiss your range goodbye). Would be an awesome commuter / traffic bike. I ran out of juice one day at 68 of 100 listed mile range (it will limp you in for a short distance after..... very short.... luckily I was a "short" distance from home).
I love mine!!❤
Listen up Harley Davison are the best motorcycles in the known universe. Believe it or not I ride a 1947 knucklehead. I can’t start it, but I can ride it.
Love my EGS. I think it looks way better than a street glide because it has that cool rear fender tail light
They've made a few.
Love HD and I'm a sportster guy!
SPORTSTER4LIFE ☘️
I had one. No problems. A few DK added components and it was great. And with your videos could cut 18 ft turns with ease.
Should say we have had 5 Harley. None were ever in shop for any reason. So what’s with the junk fantasy. ??
Been looking at DK products, what did you put on your bike?
@@stacysid2 for our 05 Road King we purchased shocks and floorboard extender kit from DK. Good products and excellent service.
That's usually said by people who've never ridden a H.D. or, want one but can't afford it.
@@motorman857 that is true and unfortunate. Older Harleys can be affordable, infinitely repairable and make a fun, reliable bike.
Bring back the FXST-C
Only focused on extremely expensive, fully optioned out.
I was wondering what you were focused on. Now I know.
@@motorman857 I meant Harley is only focused on super expensive fully optioned out bikes. I prefer less being and value for my money like the one in your article.
Really why would you even watch the video I love them myself and the only thing I don't like about it is not mine
60,000 miles of smiles on my 2018 SGS. All kinds of accessories but nothing done to the motor or exhaust. Not important to me. My next big improvement, a Wilber’s suspension system. I like practical accessories that provide real functionality. Life is good…
Great price and find. 👍
They've been making alot of foolish decisions just like many other companies have been. They all need to decide whether they're with The People or against them. One of those two choices is fatal.
But you didn't turn your head
Getting rid of entry level bikes is the wrong direction harley. Why did they make themselves a symbol?
I could see it coming back. With more people using head sets and phones for music and GPS they can pull those features and people some people wont care.
I got 107 standard police EG love it 👍 2017 model
That engine with a Woods 222 cam is a beauty of a beastie little snot.
Harley is the worst bike out there and I'm just plain stupid for owning three of them 🤷♂️😁
Anything with a touch screen is obsolete at inception.
Yep, not to mention, the potential for big problems, especially as the bike ages. And sooner or later HD is liable to tell you "Too bad, So sad" a few years down the road. When it ages.
Harley-Davidson sold out to China just so you know they're making the original Sportster 1200 and calling it something else in China.
HD CEO has a year plan, just look what he did for Livewire.
Nobody “hates Harley Davidson”. They just need to justify something they feel unbalanced about. There’s nothing about a Harley to “hate”. That’s just stupid. They’re as fine a machine as a person can get.
They canceled it because it was selling. It was very responsibly priced for a Harley bagger, just didn’t sale.
I absolutely love my '19 ElectraGlide Standard; bought it new the last day of August '19 and am just short of having 47k miles on it. By time it hits five years old, it will easily have 50k+ miles on it. I've added a few upgrades to it along the way (AdvanBlack tourpak, passenger pillion and pegs, Cobra slip on mufflers, Avon grips, bag guards, and Legend rear shocks), and still have less money in it than a new Street Glide cost at the time and it is now set up better for long distance trips than a Street Glide. Best bang for the buck in my opinion.
Real men travel on bar bikes! Garbage wagons are for wimps
A true motorcycle has no bells and whistles but most consumers don't know that..
Nailed it. They're consumers, not motorcyclists.
I have one with a bell, but none with whistles, lol