Smooth stops on a heavy bike and, turns from a stop.
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- In this video I'll answer the two most frequently asked questions. How to stop smoothly on a big bike and how to make a right turn from a stop.
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I'm 50 this year. Haven't owned motorcycles since I was a teen. I went right out and bought a heavyweight bagger. Found your channel right off. My fear level was a solid ten. Now, after a couple months, and over two thousand miles, my fear level is a four or five. We really appreciate you Sir.
Keep practicing and use those head and eyes!
@@flyingunicycle When I first got the Victory Crossroads and was riding in the city, when I HAD to make a sharp right I just looked where I wanted my front wheel to go, and that's where it would go. I'm really starting to learn the clutch and throttle. Soon I hope to add a little rear brake.
@@justingreen4450 keep at it. It gets easier and natural!
buy his video CD if you haven't yet! And no i don't get paid to endorse Jerry! :)
Ditto here. Bought my third Harley last august but hadn’t ridden in 23 years. Took it home, parked it for two weeks until I took a basic riders course again. These videos are icing on the cake.
"If you let that clutch out all the way as soon as you take off, your turn will be wide" I wish some said this to me years ago. Using the clutch as a clutch has transformed my riding ability.
I've been riding bikes for 50 yrs and I always learn something from him.
Music to my ears! Never stop learning. When you think you know everything, stop riding!
Very useful tips as always, thank you. One thing I would add about stopping (from experience): never look down into the gauges, or even worse the front wheel while slowing down and stopping; look up and out while applying the brakes.
Good advice. Which is why I included that info in the above video.
For the last few meters, using only the rear brake will make the stop smooth.
It does But then you can only drop left foot. He’s suggesting both feet down to stabilize the heavy bike
@@gtate135 With practice it's working great.
Even for a lighter-weight bike, you might be okay with using just your left foot at a stop. With a passenger, though, put down both feet. Even if she's tiny and lightweight, the extra stability of two legs will keep her safer.
Exactly, just like wearing suspenders and a belt. Can't be too safe when you have a passenger.
Great tip on my biggest problem. Slip the clutch on a right turn from a stop. I was fully engaging it too soon and it was sending me out too wide.
Thank You!
Thanks Jerry, and I asked this not more than a couple of weeks ago- stopping. Thank you.
Key for me was make sure the bars aren’t turned- that can make your life horrible!! Haha. Additionally, I had to make a left turn, u-turn at a LE road closure with my 2016 FXSB- turned my head, and like magic that bike went just where I wanted it to go!!
You’re the best sir.
Thank you for that clip Jerry. I found that very useful. Turning I am O.K. My stopping has always been a little raged to say the least. Must say I find your videos invaluable.
I'm a new owner of a Chieftain and was terrified of the bike. I've been watching these videos and practicing in big empty parking lots
Feeling a lot better now. Still have a lot of practice to do but I do greatly appreciate these videos!
Glad to help
I'm 63 1/2yo. Traded my Softtail for a Street Glide 8/5/23. Whole new dynamic for me. Took a while to get used to and even took my vacation on it. But I never had any issues with coming to a smooth stop or making turns. Although I did take my turns slower in the beginning then i did on my Heritage. I loved my new bike so much I took it on vacation and put almost 1300 miles on it. But anyway, I liked this video and hopefully I'll get to see a few more. Keep doing what you're doing sir. Great job.
Put a progressive monotube suspension in the front and you’ll be amazed.
I find it also helpful to keep the handlebars strait as you apply the front brake just before stopping. I have a sport bike and if you turn the wheel even slightly to either direction it tends to transfer the weight in that direction as well. Thanks for all the tips Jerry.
Yes, NEVER hit the front brake when the handlebars are turned when doing any slow speed stopping or turning.
I’m a daily rider for 45 years, and have attended plenty of “high speed” courses. I bought your book and watch your channel, and have learned more about real world riding than any other book or program. When I retire next year I’m going to take an in-person class. Thank you!
I look forward to meeting you.
Best advise out there without a doubt. Took a beginner MSF course to learn to ride at Henderson Harley-Davidson and this is some of the stuff you learn. Number 1 is the friction zone and then smooth and even progressive braking utilizing the front and rear brakes for maximum control of the motorcycle. Cool side note is one of the instructors , the most enthusiastic one in my opinion, is a retired moto officer and all of the MSF coaches know and admire Mr. Palladino. I hope one day Ride Like a Pro will have a presence in the Las Vegas valley. Definitely will make a point to be there should you visit Las Vegas.
You remind me of the Texas troopers I learned from. My father made me attend their class when I was 16. I was a very experienced dirt bike rider by then, but I had a lot to learn about street bikes. Best thing I ever did. Proper braking and clutch use were paramount to learn. I always use front and rear brakes when stopping and putting both feet down. I ride dressers 2 up. So safety is very important. Thanks for all the great tips. I've been riding for 50 years and still look to be a better rider.
thanks Jerry! I ride 2 up 100% of the time. your advice to keep your head up at stops is an invaluable piece of advice on a bike this heavy. I never had any problems on my lighter, 700lb bike, but the Ultra limited, with a passenger can be tricky if you aren't paying attention! my wife has commented before about rough stops which usually happen after a long day of riding and in heavy city traffic. I agree with her and need to concentrate on my stopping as well, I appreciate your videos
@@Gismo3333 pretty sure i didn't make ANY excuses. I took ownership of my concentration level and my occasional poor stopping habits and i noted when i notice it the most, City driving with stop and go traffic. I didn't blame the traffic, i blamed me. That being said, an 8 hour 375 mile ride in 100 degree heat in New Mexico can tax any rider. I've been riding 45 years and this bike is top heavy and heavier than any bike I've ever owned but thanks for your advice though
Pay no mind to that guy. He has no clue what he's talking about. I removed his post for that reason.
@@motorman857 lol thank you. not sure where he was coming from, but your advice is GOLD!
The biggest problem I found with my stops is not holding the back brake long enough and using too much front to bring the bike to a stop. I’m 5’ 9”, 140lbs. So I was always intimidated with not having my feet down quick enough. But I found it a lot better to almost stop with one foot down and the other on the back brake, and like jerry said, right before I came to a stop bring the other foot down. Great video, a good camera angle I think would be looking down at your right foot to give a visual of how fast the bike is moving when you bring your right foot down.
I Was picking up my bike from my local dealership today after a rear tire change and three hole service. This weekend happens to be the weekend of the biggest rally in the state. I couldn’t believe the number of riders I saw come through that couldn’t make decent turns and low speed maneuvers.
I'm sure Jerry's covered this point elsewhere, but perfect stops can quickly become a problem when you put your foot down to hold the weight of the bike, but you find out that there's even a small amount of unseen gravel or oil on the road, causing your foot to slip out. Quick reflexes are fading with my age, not sure what Jerry would advise. Awesome work sir.
I do a lot of group rides where we ride staggered. Staying in your lane has a double meaning. Not only do you have to stay out of the oncoming lane, you must stay in your half of the lane you are in. Because a couple bike lengths behind, another rider is turning with you.
Thanks. That smooth stop, like everything else I guess, needs practice. If the bike is a little too fast , it won’t be smooth. I am 66 woman of 165 cm riding BMW F750 (I had been riding scooter as the only means of transport when I was a teenager n completely abandoned motorcycle during working life) and I really appreciate your tip that I just came across today
I purchased a 2016 Indian Roadmaster. It weighs 900lbs. I am embarrassed to say so, but yesterday when I came to a stop the bike tipped over to the left. Actually, this was a fortunate incident because I now fully realize that the safety bars function so that the bike does not receive even a tiny scratch. The bike is 100% OK, and I am grateful. I was not injured in any way. Fortunately, a motorist got out of his truck and helped me to get the bike upright. So thankful for his assistance, as I could not budge the bike on my own. Today, I am removing the luggage box that sits on the back and am removing both lower fairings, in an attempt to reduce the weight of the bike. I am also replacing the large seat that comes standard on the Roadmaster with a lighter seat that also make the seat height 1 inch lower. Mainly, I am so grateful for your video on how to bring my bike to a SAFE stop. I was doing it all wrong and was leaving my foot on the break and only lowering my left leg for support once the bike stopped. I am saving this video and will be viewing it many times. Right now, I am at a stress level 10 when it comes to being confident that I can safely, confidently, and comfortably stop my bike, and I physically cringe when a light turns red as I approach the intersection or when I am stopped in freeway traffic. I do not split lanes on the freeway and will not do so until I am more confident as a rider. Yesterday, a dealer had me sit on a large Indian motorcycle in his showroom that has no back luggage box and has the smaller stream-lined seat that comes standard on that bike. He told me that by removing the box on the back and replacing the large seat on my Roadmaster will definitely help me, and I do believe he is correct. It is my choice to remove the lower fairings, as I don't mind the wind and weather on my legs... also, it is an air-cooled engine and removing those fairings will allow more wind to cool the engine. My next step will be to replace the ungodly heavy front fender with a more streamlined fender on the Roadmaster and that will not only reduce the weight a bit but will allow the front brakes to run cooler. There is so much to learn. Thank you, Jerry. Any comments are welcome. I love this bike out on the open road and am now doing all I can to also love it when I must come to a stop as well...
As hard as it may be to believe, the weight of your bike means very little. What you need to do is learn the 3 techniques I teach. Once those techniques are mastered ( it takes most people a few hours to get the hang of the techniques), you will get better and better and you'll be able to handle your bike like a toy. Check out this link czcams.com/video/hEdXHLiE3v4/video.html
Another fantastic video Jerry. Thank you. I am 55 years old and learn to ride a dirt bike when I was eight. I'm currently waiting for winter to be over so I can get on my recently-acquired Kawasaki Vulcan. Watching your videos has been tremendously helpful and has gotten me very excited to use all of your techniques. Thank you so much.
Jerry, several years ago in my MSF course they taught this technique, I've been watching you teach this technique over these years and have enjoyed your videos and instructions. I use this when coming to a stop. There is another individual that teaches REAR brake only under 15 or 20 mph, and zero front brakes, I've tried this numerous times, my stops SUCK utilizing rear break only. my current bike is a '18 RoadGlide. idk, I guess I was confused or misunderstood the differences in these two stopping techniques..Personally I'm sticking with MSF and your techniques...Thank you..
Light pressure on the rear brake is used for low speed turns along with the friction zone and head and eyes. Never use the front brake while making low speed turns and maneuvers. Do yourself a favor and get my Ride Like a Pro Experience, video and get the correct information in the correct order. available at ridelikeapro.com the best 20 bucks you'll ever spend. There's a lot of bad and harmful info on the internet and even in the comment section under my video's from people who really have no clue what they are talking about. I usually delete the bad info comments but some can slip thru.
1000 percent! Ge Ride Like a Pro, like the Man says the best 20 bucks you'll ever spend
Why in the world would anyone buy a bike their afraid of? Thank God for this channel.
Hello Jerry. I really appreciate the tips. Just bought a 2009 Road King, and your instruction will help me get used to it before taking my wife for rides.
"If you're a real Duffas!!!"... you always make my day Jerry. :-)
Is like an instrument, practice, practice, practice gets you where you wish to be.
Looks like MotorMan got a new bike! Love that blue and white! Hope you're well Jerry. Great video as always.
Thanks 👍
Thank you Motor Man! Since I bought your video and began watching your CZcams videos, I'm a much more competent driver and have not dropped any of my bikes. Studying and practicing the techniques that you teach is the key!
Thanks Motorman. Every day, every ride, things you can practice to make you a better rider.
I highly suggest to sign up for one of Jerry's courses. There are many places to take a course, just go to his website to find one near you.
Also, it's worth the investment to buy his videos courses until you can make it to taking a live course.
Thanks Jerry. I've been riding for many and have had the same problem. Great advice.
Jerry, one thing to add to smooth stops and cornering issues. taking off on turns, etc...... Tire Condition/mileage makes a big difference too IMO. Tires with lots of miles on them start developing the "flattened" effect on them in the contact patch area, and a slight ridge off center. At least here in texas where there arent many curvy roads....LOL. . I noticed a huge difference when I had my new set of tires put on. I was having problems with slow moving turns, and smooth stops. After the new tires went on, i noticed a BIG difference. Just thought it might be helpful to add.
Jerry your da man! You your videos are priceless and the humor, love it!!!
Thanks !!
Thanks 👍
Thank you very much for all your lessons! Greetings from Ukraine!
Thank's for great video. Dropping the bike is one of my main fears when coming to a stop or even having to make a slow speed maneuver.
Hey Kevin. I think there is one more important technique that will help with your fear of dropping your bike in a slow speed maneuver. At the 1:44 mark Jerry says "It's as simple at that" . I have to respectfully disagree. His friction zone advice is great, but he doesn't mention upper body lean. Look at the 1:50 mark where he is still in the beginning of the turn, but look especially at the beginning of this video where he is doing tight figure eights. His upper body (specifically the spine) is leaning in the opposite direction of the bike lean. This is very important for stable, confident low speed turns. No need to move your bum around on the seat or anything like that, but opposing upper body lean vs. bike lean should really help your confidence in low speed turns. I think if you practice in a safe area you'll start to get a feel for how much opposing lean is "just right". There comes a point where the speed of the bike in the turn along with the turn radius, etc. results in the most natural upper body lean being in line with the bike and as speed increases you lean your upper body in the same direction as the bike, but with more lean than the bike. I don't know why it seems that so few instructors teach this. I don't think it is an intentional oversight, but it is obvious that all good riders and instructors do an opposing upper body lean on slow speed turns and maneuvers. Once I realized this I stopped dreading those right hand turns from a stop light. Easy peasy now. Staying in the friction zone is critical too just like Jerry said. Cheers.
I keep my right foot on the brake when stopped.. Even with female on the back. I also keep clutch in and pay attention to my rearview for possible rear end crashes. It can be tiring riding with my strict disciplined habits but I can't change and I know I'm doing it correctly
i had the same problem coming from a sport bike directly to a road glide. I do use both brakes but when I get down to 5mph I use the rear only as it creates better balance. i have now also mastered the front brake being very delicate a very low speeds but I find it easier just to use the rear brake whenever I'm below 5mph.
You're getting better with your information as you get older.( Thanks) ps love your work.
I have an issue at the bottom of my road.. It goes from straight to a left hand curve up hill to a stop sign. When I stop I'm on a hill. I haven't ridden in 6 years and I'm rusty. I get nervous but believe I need to keep left foot down and right foot on the break and follow thru as you have taught in this video..
Oh yeah I forgot the road I drive and come up to a stop sign and my right turn is on a 45 degree angle up hill. Right now I avoid that one and take a left and go home the long way.
Thank you for all your videos
I'm 60 years old out and riding in the hills of Western New York near the PA boarder
It sounds like you've yet to master the friction zone and the proper use of your head and eyes. I'd suggest the ''Ride Like a Pro Experience'' video. The best 20 bucks you'll ever spend on your motorcycle. Available at ridelikeapro.com
@@motorman857 working on that friction zone. Thank you
Hands down; you are the absolute best.
I've seen the tip over a few times. Usually, the rider comes to a stop sign and does a "California roll and go" stop, but just as he is about turn, he sees a car coming and jams on the front brake with the front tire turned. Boom, down he goes. If there are a few guys riding and they come to a stop sign, they do that roll and go stop, but one of the guys loses his courage, then cognitive dissonance sets in and he does the stop instead of the roll and go. The guy behind him was expecting a roll and go, so he has to jam on his brakes and he turns his front tire to miss his buddy in front of him and boom down he goes. A lot of riders make the mistake of not coming to a complete stop, and follow the Tips you give...
@@Gismo3333 It is a California term for an incomplete stop at a stop sign. But, yes, you could say they blow through a stop sign. They do slow down before not stopping, that is why it is called, "A California roll and go." They roll up to the sign, then go right through it without stopping. It is a common practice out here in CA...
@@ababbit7461 Same here in NYC in fact some people skip the slow down part .
Thanks for taking the time to make these safety vlogs Jerry, appreciated
There's no big secret; just practice, practice, and practice some more.✌🏽
I have watched a few MCrider videos about this and he keeps preaching putting the left foot down, releasing the front brake, and finishing with the rear brake and keeping your right foot up in the peg.
I’m 4’11” and 104 lbs and I ride Rebel 600 now, looking at an 1100 which is a tad higher, but just enough to make me feel nervous about a rear brake, one footed stop… considering the height of the bike and a bigger, heavier gas tank. Plus, when I had my Sportster 1200 you bet I had to stop with both feet hitting the ground at the same time!
I thought I was doing something wrong and I have been afraid to attempt the rear brake only stop. Thanks for reassuring me that I’m breaking properly! And safely! There’s nothing more embarrassing than dropping my bike at an intersection! 😂
PS Got my endorsement at age 50 before I even owned a bike. Been riding for six years now and it’s the best thing I ever did for my mental health! Take care of your bike, cuz when you need it, it takes care of you! 🏍️🌷💜🇺🇸.
The beauty of the friction zone is enormous when driving a cvt transmission
Thank you very much for this video! My bike only weighs about 650, but it took me a few weeks to get the hand of turning from a stop without going into the other lane. My dad and taught me almost everything I know and they helped me a ton, along with your amazing videos.
When I come to a stop on a heavy bike, I practice a few things:
1. Make sure the bike is pointed absolutely straight. Handlebars should not turn at all.
2. Make sure the bike is absolutely vertical. No lean at all.
3. Ease into a smooth stop and use the front brake at the end, as suggested in the video, and _feel_ the bike sink into the front shocks. Let the shock absorbers in the front damp that little end stopping force and you won't need to use your own strength for that little bit.
Let the bike stop itself, rather than you struggling with the handlebars, brakes, your hands and legs etc.
Let. The. Bike. Stop. Itself.
Another good trick as you're going through the corner hit your rear brake it will help you control your bike and it helps you stay steady
Thank you sir. One expert on line says to just put the left foot down at a stop so it gets confusing but I appreciate different styles perhaps. Thanks again.
Appreciated my man , was about to sell my new bike LOL ..truly
Glad I could help
I usually finish the stop on the rear break and only put left foot down.
I'm teaching my wife to ride (not sure if I'm being brave or just asking for trouble) and just last night we were talking about this very thing.
Just show her the videos Jerry sells where these women just dominate the bikes. Watching the 4'11" inexperienced girl riding after a few hours of training is mind boggling.
Thanks Moto Man! Great tips, they make a big difference in controlling the bike
Great video ,its good advice. I'm riding a rocket 3 and a vmax ,I know the pain of turning a heavy bike.
Don't care what anyone says,to stop a heavy bike use TWO fingers on the brake lever and then its real easy to feather front brakes to a smooth stop. I only use back brake to hold the bike there while I'm stopped cause I only put left foot down. If you have two big people I'd use two feet. My bikes a 2020 Vmax(only about 700 lbs) but it will work no matter how heavy. You'll be surprised how easy it is to stop smoothly with your index and middle fingers. Try it,you won't be uneasy anymore.
Oh thank you for addressing this again.
Good vid, Jerry. Maybe for your next one, discuss threshold braking...
Jerry, first of all....I NEVER comment on YT videos, so take this as a compliment.
Secondly, is that The Ms.??,,,,"camera Girl"??....better known as Doc Donna standing on the corner at the 40 second mark??
If so, glad that her recovery is going well.😁
If not,,,then I still hope that her recovery is going well. Miss her in the videos. Hope she can come back soon. 😁😁
Thanks for all of the videos that you have done.
Yes it is, Donna's recovery will be about a year, per her Ortho doc's words. She's doing great though, daily PT and getting stronger every day.
Jerry, if you're looking for some new subject matter, how about a video on the best ways to mount, demount your motorcycle. Same with a passenger. It's gotten really hard for me to balance the bike while my wife climbs on and off. Some say leave the bike on the side stand and let the passenger climb on, then righten the bike. Many different ideas on how to approach a passenger getting on and off a heavy bike. What's your approach?
Here in the UK we are taught slow speed skills before we are let loose on the public roads.
The same here in the U.S. the problem is they train you on little toy bikes. Then the students go out and buy a 600 to 900lb bike and find it's a whole new ballgame.
1:40 -- here is the most important part -- the TURN HULA. If you try to lean with the bike, coming up out of the hole, you will go wider because your inner ear is telling you that you're about to fall and need to straighten up. By rocking your hips and letting the bike bank under you, while keeping your torso upright, you don't get that instinctive drive to avoid leaning.
Great video! The tips I get from you have helped me be a much better rider. Thank you!
Sir! Been an avid rider since 14 and now 74 and with new knees. Rarely a day goes by that I am not out and about on my R-K workhorse. Rain or shine here in B..C. paved or unpaved. You and the other folks are doing a great service for us riders.
Question trying to transpose your teachings to my 1930 and 1937 foot clutch but I find no info out there. Any willing folks such as Seattle Cossacks willing to do videos. I have had the 1937 since the winterof 69/70.
I've never ridden a foot clutch Harley so I can't give any tips on that set up.
Another great video Jerry. You are one funny man! Thanks
Very informative Mr. Palladino.
One thing about a passenger when stopping....they need to STAY STILL!!!! When I'm below 15 mph all the way to a stop, my wife knows to be absolutely still at all times. Even while waiting on the light to change. When we pull out and I grab 2nd gear, she can stand on her head and dance if she wants to, doesn't bother me in the least. Having a passenger moving around while trying to stop is problematic, and I see this all the time when we ride.
When I practice when no one's around I purposefully look in different spots and this technique is definitely helpful and true. Just bought my 2020 heritage after practicing hard on my vulcan for 3 months. The harley stops smooth as silk with 1 foot. It feels weird and awkward with both. The vulcan seems to want to lean to the left when slightly stopping. I've rechecked all techniques again. It's not dramatic but I can tell. Not sure if a left single rotor has anything to do with it but when I make the final 5 feet or so I use only rear brake and it seems better. I look staight and the handle bars are staight
If your riding an 900LB Ultra with a passenger on board, this technique will be a lot safer and easier. If you think having one foot down is more stable than 2 feet down, stand on one foot and have someone give you a little push. Then do the same with both feet on the ground and you'll find out quickly, which is more stable.
Thank you my friend! Always good sound advice.
Agreed you have to get used to using the rear break, amazing difference on stopping. You don't get that front end dive.
Please don't misunderstand. The rear brake helps control the bike at low speeds. The front brake has 80 to 90% of your stopping force. For the shortest stop, use both brakes.
Thanks buddy very good video great instructions have a great night
Good stuff Sir. You mention briefly a rider at a 'svelt 250' with a larger spouse. Would you be interested in covering this topic in more detail. My wife is very concerned that she may not fit, and could cause me to drop the bike or wreck. Sage is so concerned she is very reluctant to even consider riding with me. Thank you Sir.
@jamesbarrett918 Not anymore, Donna sold it, :)
Great advice. Thanks for posting this.
My pleasure!
One video I really would like to see is how to control an emergency stop in wet conditions, twice I've had to do it, both times the front suspension bottomed out, then the front wheel locked then it juddered to a halt
It sounds like you did the exact opposite of what I explained in this video. If the front suspension bottomed out, you snatched and or grabbed the front brake, instead of squeezing it. What I demonstrated in this video WORKS IN WET OR DRY conditions. As I stated in the above video, with 10 minutes of practice, you should have this down pat. 15 minutes if you're a doofus.
@@motorman857 Thanks for that will concentrate on that in the nearby car park
I believe maybe some riders "over think" the slow smooth stop. Possibly a confidence issue? Sort the confidence out and the rest will fall into place. Cheers everyone 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 🍺 😁🇳🇿🏴🇬🇧
Got it thank you my Motorman 😎
Your Videos Good 👍🏼
No problem 👍
Great training bro 🤘
Hallo Jerry, I am seventy nine and I am still riding. Thank you for all the information..
Very welcome
thank you for this video Jerry..i have asked a couple times to make a video on how to stop Smooth.. thank you
Glad to help
Thanks Jerry I watch your videos all the time and they have helped me a lot over the years. I'm 72 years old and ride 2 up 90 percent of the time. I've been riding over 50 years. I ride a road glide ultra. The thing is where I live in Pennsylvania there are many stop signs and traffic lights on roads that slant to the right or left almost like your stopping on a slanted roof. I've noticed and know for a fact Florida roads are nice and flat. I learned to counter balance at these slanted roads but especially since I'm older sometimes it's a challenge. I have no issues with slow riding mostly because of your videos. I don't even know if there's anything I can do to feel more comfortable stopping on uneven roads. I live in Amash country so there's also a lot of grooves at intersections from horse and buggies. Any tips or maybe it's time to get a convertible because I just don't think I could get into a trike.
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Excellent advice 👌
This was extremely helpful
850lb bike...I think my first car weighed less. I kind of enjoyed my FXRS and Superglide, but just...no! Been riding for 40yrs and just never understood huge motorcycles. Maybe I'll find a used OCC clown bike and give it another shot....lol. Awsome informational video though.
I'm not sure about the advice of applying the front brake slightly just before the stop. I think letting off the front brake while still applying the rear brake is better. That way the momentum of the bike stays more even as the bike comes to a complete halt. You want to avoid that momentum being transferred to the front because that can lead to imbalance.
If you snatch or grab the front brake so hard that the fork dips down at only 2 mph, you need a lot more practice braking smoothly. Lots and lots more practice braking. But the point of this video is if you have a problem stopping smoothly, try the technique shown in this video. If you don't have that problem, disregard this technique and do what works for you. In my classes for the past 26 years, the above technique works. Your students in your classes, may differ. Of course, if you have no classes and you're not an instructor, and you haven't had hundreds of students with problems stopping smoothly, well...
Hehe yes, I went on a harley test ride , I had fatbob and the two in front of me man and a woman two up on a streetglide.
I was behind them and we came up to a round about in the right hand lane, and i stopped smooth and fast behind them seeing the car close coming towards us on the round about, but the two Infront of me on the street glide, hit the brakes and he had no idea how to synchronize his feet down onto the road in emergency brake let alone two up stopping and the bike fell over into the left lane and they both fell came off the bike.
They were doofus's, they had no idea how to stop smooth or fast.
Huge damage and repair bill.
Yeah people need to learn the skills.
Quick question Jerry, I really enjoy watching your videos and I've learned a lot, hope to one day take a class with you. I'm a Deputy in Ga but would definitely ride down there to your class. I'm practicing my turns and U turns. I have an Indian Scout, but when I go to do a U Turn should I turn the handlebars at full lock to get as tight as I can all the time? I did the demo you showed to see the turning radius on my bike and it's about 16-17ft I believe but I get just that little worry about turning to full lock when I try to make my U Turns as short as possible. Thank you sir if you get a chance to answer this. Keep up the great videos!
Turning full lock should only be thought of as a practice exercises. If you are running the police course with exercises at 18ft, you might occasionally hit full lock but with proper tire placement even in that course, you should only hit full lock for a split second.
@@motorman857 Thank you sir, I greatly appreciate your response and I will continue to work on my slow speed turns with the tips I've learned from watching all the CZcams videos you have. I've been trying to watch them all and I learn more and more each time I watch one. Really hope one day to come to FL and take a class from you. Keep up the great videos and God Bless y'all.
Very good video. Any time I finalize my stop with just the front brake, I really look at the pavement where the front wheel is to stop, looking for car fluids like coolant, oils, AC drippings, as well as loose sand or gravel.
Try to see those things WELL before stopping. You'll be much better off keeping your head and eyes UP when coming to a stop, regardless of surface conditions
@@zstackgo I am always doing a full scan, and that includes where my front wheel will stop.
Then there's no reason to do what you described in your original comment.
I do just the opposite. I use both brakes and release the front brake at the last second while putting my left foot down.
Some instructors say to only be on the rear brake as you come to the full stop and only put the left foot down…
Jerry, I have a question for you please. Just was out on my '06 Electra glide and was practicing slow speed maneuvers in a vacant parking lot. Probably did 20 or 30 figure 8's, tight turns, all using your teachings. On the last turn, I headed for the exit and pulled up to the road,....NO REAR BRAKE! Pedal went right to infinity an beyond! Quick moment of panic, stopped using front brake. The rear brake function returned, I headed for home ever so cautiously. Didn't happen again. Checked reservoir and fluid level was right up there. What happened?
You were using too much pressure on your rear brake. It happens to some of the riders at my classes. I have them pull over, turn the bike off and allow the brake fluid to cool down, the rear brake comes back. You control your motorcycle with your clutch and throttle. When you're making slow, tight turns, you should have light pressure on your rear brake as it helps stabilize the bike. Once you get really good with the 3 techniques, eliminate the rear brake the next time you practice and you'll see that it's all clutch/throttle head and eyes. Out on the street, always apply light pressure on your rear brake while making Uturns, especially if you have a passenger on back.
@@motorman857 Thanks for the reply Jerry! Keep up the excellent instruction, from one CZcams creator to another! Much appreciated, and yes, I was probably using too much pressure on the rear brake. That's just to help you get the feel of the friction zone and gives you a bit of stability and a 'fudge factor' until you master the skills as I know understand. I get it now and next time out I'll lay off the brake more.
Was that Camera Girl to your left? Great to see her back in action.
Great tips…Thank you.
Good video. I had to lay my goldwing down last week and this would have helped
“If youre a real doofus maybe 15 minutes”🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for this video!
Glad it was helpful!
Maybe that rider should not take passengers on until his skills improve , blaming his wife’s weight ? I am glad you have set that straight , their skills need to improve .
No doubt about it, though, a passenger changes the center of gravity upward, and a heavy passenger all the more so. Good thing he didn't use the emailer's name--his wife wouldn't appreciate the remark.
Love your videos! Just Curious, You’re in Florida where the palm trees?
There's 6 of them just in my front yard.
Thanks for the tips.
Happy to help!