Man, those lyrics really spoke to me. "This is the vocoder. Oh yeah. It sounds really good. And I like it, it's fun to play. It's a great vocoder sound. Okayyyyy"
Back in the 80's Long & McQuade never gave me a hard time when I use to come in weekly and play all their synths. Later, I got a job and have been a loyal customer since. Thanks!
What a great demo!!!! You're very talented! I'm beyond excited as my 06 is arriving tomorrow! This really helps understand things before I even start playing around or (gasp) reading the manual! Thank you!
I respect this series of workstations because it makes it easy to make music. Also I have had the xp60 which was great. The fantom series is great. I have a korg kronos which is more difficult to program but with practice you get used to it and you can do anything with it. But the fantom series is great.
I've been waiting for this to come out , I'm definitely going to buy one of them fo taking Baskin here in Washington DC I didn't think they would do it so early
Terrific demonstration and information. You really did a great job of showing the capabilities of the new "O" series. This keyboard is AWESOME!!! I'm sold!!!
I've had my Fantom 06 for a week now and so far I am delighted with it. I part ex'd by FA-06 which always left me a little underwhelmed sonically. Not so with the Fantom 0. It is everything I thought the FA was going to be. Fantastic sounds and functionality. Its going to take me some time to get my head around it all, but its going to be fun doing so!
@@fourthtunz Possible, but the difference from D/A change that is fairly subtle. Roland isn't into making all-new sounds (they should but they won't), Zen-Core still uses the same JV1080 and XV5080 patches as the FA and Juno-DS, even though Zen-Core is a little bit more capable sound engine. I have an MC-707, so I know well, and I can audition the bigger Fantom locally if I feel like it, which just offers more of the same just with more bells and whistles. Carl Rose is just wow'd by the touchscreen, Fantom-0's overall functionality differs from FA mostly in the sequencer and Ableton integration. They are fairly samey otherwise if you compare their manuals. _Hopefully_ , Roland bothered to update the main acoustic piano patches with better samples for the Fantom-0, but that is unlikely. For anyone to truly benefit from Zen-Core, you have to get into sound design and create your own patches different from all the '90s stuff that Roland throws in. Zen-Core is very capable of modern sounds, but you are on your own setting that up, Roland won't do it for you. Now take into account that most people buying Fantoms and other Roland keyboards _aren't_ into sound design, so they're unable to actually benefit from Zen-Core. At least the Zenology Pro VST is where people will be more likely to make modern sounds for themselves.
FA is in some semblance superior; depending on your feature requirement. Sonically you'll have a range of complaints about SN on the Fantom; where even on CZcams comparisons, for those who like them, you'll hear that FA/Fantom aren't all that different in many performances and in some cases FA jumps ahead. Is it an upgrade? Depends on what features best suit you. You are losing things from moving from the FA. Fantom-0 has the most horrendous sequencer that I've ever had the misfortune to encounter. No beam (Sad) and the resonance on SN and in many ways the whole device, projects a much thicker and nuanced live sound. To truly make the most of ZC technology - I'd go for the flagship or a modular approach as with the comment above mine.
I love Roland, I love every synth sound that they have, but it's time for Roland to bring some new piano sounds!!! They are losing against Nord and Yamaha in that part!
if the sound of the piano had been a better one, this would be my next keyboard, but the piano sounds disappointed me, the sound is lighter than the big fantom.
Thanks. This looks like an updated FA06 which I bought and sold around five years ago due to the lengthy menu diving and it trying to do so many things (sampler, sequencer, synth) but not achieving any of this to a convincing degree. I wanted to love it. Looks like the same deal but with ZenCore and step sequencer buttons. Will be good for sone people no doubt.
It's rather the opposite. A straight to the point live board praised for it's immediacy and focus. Lending it to be one of the most successful stage/gigging boards in our history. Zencore is convoluted comparatively (similar to modx you won't need it all on the fly). As such you're hampered a lot (engine) by it's lower price. I've always held that the best place for the ZC architecture is in the studio (for a workstation type). Modular or specific devices (like Juno) are a different case entirely.
Thanks for the great demo!! Is Fantom0 can be connected to an external laptop with no other audio interface, And play a live VST (like Kontakt) through the Fantom output? Thanks
Another question? Anyone know how this would work inside reason 12? Is there any issues in setting it up? I'm just wanting to use this more as a sound source and a controller inside reason 12.
Can you use the expression pedal to swap between two (or more?) layers of sounds. Thus, for example changing instruments from piano to synth with my feet while playing with both hands? And/or can I use a pedal to go to the next (preprogrammed) patch while playing?
@@KrishnanR26 I have the 08 now, but I did not find the option to use the expression pedal to swap sounds. There is an global option to inverse a pedal, but then I need to exp pedals. The Keyboard switch group with the pads or using splits is the alternative now.
Can someone tell how many expansion packs can be accommodated in the Fantom O? Heard it is 256 MB only. But wondering how many packs can fit in. Not greedy for that price but want to load a few good pianos, orchestral strings and some Indian tones.
hello, great video. I saw that you can assign the pedals to many things. But can you assign a pedal to the pads? in the sense that I would like to move on to the next group of sounds on the 16 pads. I hope my question is clear. THANKS.
DAW = Digital Audio Workstation, essentially your computer's recording software. This could be Pro Tools, Cubase, Ableton, Logic, Garageband, Reaper, Studio One, etc... VST = Virtual Studio Technology, which are third-party bits of software (sometimes called plugins) that run within your DAW (or sometimes can be run standalone). VST is just one of the types of plugins available, and VST was developed by Steinberg. Others include AU (Apple), AAX (Avid), etc. Although, "VST" has somewhat become synonymous with what used to be called VSTi, or virtual instruments. So in this context, Todd is speaking mostly about other virtual instrument plugins that the FAMTOM-0 can control.
Can you hear the already recorded sample pad audio while recording a new sample pad audio in the sequencer (by triggering)? Or playing more than 4 stereo (or 8 mono) sample pad audio in the sequencer at once? This was one of the annoying limitations in FA series workstations. Lot of FA owners are waiting for the answer before they sell their FA and buy Fantom-O series as manual didn't elaborate on these issues. Although not clear who would buy secondhand old FA06 (Still selling new 2,249 CAD at Long & McQuade) when they can buy the new Fantom-O6 for 2,099 CAD!
The sample pads seem to have all the same limitations on Fantom-0, but polyphony isn't mentioned, so I would assume 4 stereo/8 mono pads at once at best.
Do the zen core sounds sound like the Roland cloud vst sounds? I had an xp50 that had jv1080 sound engine but the roland cloud jv1080 vst was so thin sounding compared to the xp50. Are Fantom O sounds like a vst?
It is unlikely to match the VST sound due to the hardware adding a bit of its own distortion and noise, plus the DAC will contribute to the sound slightly, all stuff missing inside of the VST. That aside, does the thinness matter at all once the VST sounds are fitted into the mix? I highly doubt it does. Running the VSTs' sound through hardware like Soundcraft MTK mixers should help add "mojo" and fullness to the sound, too.
Thanks for feedback , I really enjoyed creating songs on xp50 even with such a basic sequencer. Creating a song from a DAW is not even close sound wise or writing .
@@ShawnBrandon888 I love my Kross2, JD-Xi, MC-707, and FA-06 in about the same way. Massive X and FM8 can do some stuff that my hardware cannot, though, same goes for Kontakt, and The Grandeur kills at piano. Sometimes I just dupe VST presets in my Roland gear from which I develop alternate versions of those presets.
Personally i love my FA 08 and have got used to the studio set and tones architecture. Cant really justify buying this Fantom when the FA 08 is so good and still has loads of features yet to be discovered by myself. Love new Roland gear, but cant see much point in buying this machine. If you are new to Roland synthesizers, then maybe this would be a good start, if you are worried about budget, the FA 06-07-08 is a really good alternative..
Except Fantom-0 'boards are the same price as the old FAs? But with better front panel controls and a touchscreen. Juno-DS is the lower-budget option from Roland, though with many, many more limitations. The Korg Kross2 is much more like a "mini-FA/Fantom-0". Keybed's not as good, though. FA has most of the sounds of the Zen-Core engine in the Fantom and MC-707, and likely this Fantom-0 as well.
I had the FA 07 2times I love that thing! I still have the DS 61 which I guess has some of the sounds but different engines than the FA-07? I have read that they removed some of the piano tweakability from the new fantom O series. there’s a video on here with a guy comparing both series it looks like they included a little bit more functionality in the new phantom series by took away some features as well
@@fourthtunz FA has the better sequencer, but no touchscreen for practicality. DS61 is just mising the SuperNatural engines from the FA, which are great for acoustic sounds and reproducing vintage synth patches. Have you tried EXP-04? Its "PremierGrand" patch beats the Supernatural pianos on the FA and Integra-7. Completely. (The latter two can load EXP-04 as well, though.) EXP-05 has the best Rhodes.
@@Jason75913 Thank you so much for the info! Im mostly a bass player and I do the keys for beginnings of songs. If I remember right I did like the sounds better on the Fa-07, I did load some of the free sounds on the DS but I can't remember if I loaded much for pianos..I'll check them out! The O series looks like it has some great integration with Logic though? I have controllers but who knows maybe the O series is the board for me and I can sell some other stuff:) thanks!
Looks real good, though I wonder if Roland would ever consider using a class-compliant MIDI driver, because I'd like to use some piano sounds on an iPhone/iPad as the Roland pianos are not up my street. Overall a well executed board.
If they are like the existing Roland line-up, you can configure in the menus to use class-compliant MIDI over USB. Usb driver, switch from "Vendor" to "Generic".
It’s usually a setting that you can change. The daw ctrl button probably shifts it to generic midi as well. They’ve had this capability with keyboards as far back as the Juno Di & Juno G.
@@truthmanifestingtruth Thats MIDI and what I need is audio and MIDI to be sent down one USB cable from an iPad to the Fantom. As far as I am aware, the MC-707 is one of the devices that can do this, the big machine Fantom can't do it, so I guess when there's a firmware update that makes the Fantom class complaint, the Fantom-0 will receive the same treatment, I hope.
The main goal for this particular model was being lightweight and portable. Thus, this interation is a plastic body. The original FANTOM series was a metal body.
I am not up to date with current music technology but this is INSANE to me. A decade ago I had to buy protools, midi controller, interface and plugins to be able to come close to what this can do and it does it all in one AND with software if needed. This so so amazing but also so overwhelming to learn and utilize all this stuff I feel like it will take YEARS to learn.
Thanks for the review mate. I want to know if the keybed for the 61key version is the same as that on the FA-06. I owe an FA--06 but the keybed IMO is not at all satisfying. really not so comfortable to play on. Wonder if the keybed got upgraded on the new fantom-06.
I have an FA06 as well and I share your view of the keybed. Over on roland clan forums, someone got a hands on of the new Fantom 0 and said it was different (better)
@@JJJB yeah, the FA06 keybed is bad. I don’t think it’s cheap as many describe, just poorly designed, small keys, too a short pivot, velocity problems on black keys that were never addressed.
@@OptimaMrL functionality is 95% of the older FA, the four big differences are Ableton integration, appearance, front panel controls, and simple loop sequencer Older FA has better pianos than the Zen-Core pianos, Fantom-0 has all of the FA's other sounds, FA has the better sequencer, just so you know that a very close alternative is about with different strengths and may be going at a reduced prive in your country ;)
@@Jason75913 thank you. For me I need a keyboard that integrates well with MainStage, where I can bring sounds in and out, in a live setting, and it needs to be portable
@@OptimaMrL As in transmit audio over USB? Juno-DS, FA, RD-88, and Fantom-0 are all compatible and portable. The Juno can run on 8 AA batteries for convenience. The bigger Fantom (not Fantom-0), is also compatible, but it is huge and heavy and has a lot more features and Eurorack compatibility, be sure not to get confused. Yamaha MODX and MOXF are also compatible. They all rock, just decide on the features that you want, and if you are picky about keybeds, FA-08 has the best of all of these followed by the Juno-DS88. I think 61-key is best for portability, but if you must have more, there are 76-key and 88-key versions of all of these keyboards, but RD-88 only comes in one 88-key form, and there are only 61 and 88 key forms for MOXF. RD-88 also has the best piano sounds of all of these, but extra features are far more limited versus the rest, it is a simpler, higher quality instrument, then MODX comes next in best pianos then MOXF. FA and Juno-DS can load the free Roland Axial expansions, and EXP-04 has a piano preset better than anything either keyboard normally comes with. You can count on all of these I've mentioned to be overkill on stage in any event, so pick your features first, then sound(s), I say. Junos will be the lightest in weight. No one knows if the Fantom-0 series will get the same keybeds as the FA series, we will probably start seeing feedback about their usage in June.
It's one of the first specs covered at 1:06. The 06 and 07 are unweighted keys for more synthlike action and the 08 is weighted keys for more piano-like action.
Incredible workstation for the price(best option hands down, in this price range....but if Roland Fantom-0 users are limited to just 2 PC DAW options,the least Roland can do, is to include a lite version of these DAW's. Logic is out for me as I have a Windows PC, so I'd have to go with Ableton....but I am not laying down $449 f**king dollars for Ableton Standard(when I already have Reason & Studio One.) 🤬
@@LudvigOlin Thanks for the info( I couldn't find any such info on the product page on Roland's website.) I imagine the lite version is very restrictive, as even the Intro version of $99 only has 16 tracks. On second thought,I think I'll do all of my recording on the Fantom and then just export it all to my Reason DAW.
the new cubase 12 has a midi remote function that will let you comprehensivly impliment most of the fantom to control the daw and plugins as required. its probably the best thing steinberg has done for a long time. and who owens steinberg??? oh ye.. yamaha ;)
@@markashley6859 I had a Yamaha MOXF that came with Cubase....what a cluster-f**k that was...a real incoherent mess that I never sorted out. Even one of the sound designers for Yamaha told me to stay away from Cubase....& he was right...Cubase is the most counter-intuitive DAW ever created(a very capable & versatile DAW)...but nonetheless, a terrible pain in the ass, so I went with Presonus Studio One(which by the way, was created by some of the team from Steinberg.)
@@HighlandStudio91 I've used Nuendo, Cubase, Pro Tools, Logic, Mixbus, Audition, and even Acid back in the day. Cubase is the easiest to use, in my opinion, along with Nuendo, which is just the fancier, more expensive version of Cubase. I'm currently using Harrison Mixbus 32C, which works well, but there are features from Cubase I miss.
Despite this being a cut and paste bot comment from 10 years ago, you're hilariously wrong and have an infantile understanding of the models and zencore to even believe that in the first place. Do everyone a favour and never comment again.
Since he didn't play it extensively, means there's something wrong with it, meaning the Roland Fantom series is probably not the best. Every demo on CZcams about this shit-piece is very brief on sounds. But hang on I thought the sound is what counts.
after using yamaha montage and modx, then playing this keyboard, i was so disappointed. the sounds are so plasticky, light, dry, lifeless, boring, depressing. the pianos are useless. only the lead sounds are okay... i thought this keyboard would have inherited sounds from roland stage pianos and other flagship fantom but i was wrong. took a bad gamble. if you wanna buy a roland fantom 07, hit me up lol
Why don't you go to a "sounds only" video? Why are you watching a retailer advertisement? These demonstration videos always have a demonstrator demonstrating the product, which includes verbal explanations of what they are demonstrating. You seem lost. Good luck to you.
We concur. If it was a "sound only" demo, we might as well be hearing a VST. There's more to a product than just how it sounds. There's a lot about the physical keyboard that needs to be shown and explained in words.
Sounds are good to hear but there's 3k of them. I watched a dozen fantom 06 videos and honestly this simple one sold me the most because it showed me some of the usability advances over fa06 and ds61. The quick and easy rating thing alone - such a simple thing yet so awesome when you have that many sounds! Thx for the video, I'll be visiting the Brampton store 😇👍
One of the best demos. Excellent
Man, those lyrics really spoke to me. "This is the vocoder. Oh yeah. It sounds really good. And I like it, it's fun to play. It's a great vocoder sound. Okayyyyy"
Let’s go! 😂 I’ve been watching all these videos dropping today. Can’t wait to get my hands on one.
Great Presentation! Thank you so much...
Back in the 80's Long & McQuade never gave me a hard time when I use to come in weekly and play all their synths. Later, I got a job and have been a loyal customer since. Thanks!
What city?
Thanks very much for being a long-time loyal customer!
Can attest to that, good vibes in their stores
What a great demo!!!! You're very talented! I'm beyond excited as my 06 is arriving tomorrow! This really helps understand things before I even start playing around or (gasp) reading the manual! Thank you!
Great review/demo. Great work Todd!
Great Sounds and Great Playing
A great demonstration good tips thanks appreciated I have ordered the 0 -6 for my box room studio
I respect this series of workstations because it makes it easy to make music. Also I have had the xp60 which was great. The fantom series is great. I have a korg kronos which is more difficult to program but with practice you get used to it and you can do anything with it. But the fantom series is great.
AYYY!!! That's my dude!! All the way from Toronto
Thanks Tod for such a brilliant exposition - that was so well explained - simply brilliant ! 🙂
Superb review - thank you
Soooo it's pretty much a keyboard/studio, oh I need this beauty in my life
I've been waiting for this to come out ,
I'm definitely going to buy one of them fo
taking Baskin here in Washington DC
I didn't think they would do it so early
Terrific demonstration and information. You really did a great job of showing the capabilities of the new "O" series. This keyboard is AWESOME!!! I'm sold!!!
Very good and useful video. Thanks
Looks really cool. Which they could change the GUI to fit with the Logic theme like it does with Ableton, but overall looks really cool.
I've had my Fantom 06 for a week now and so far I am delighted with it. I part ex'd by FA-06 which always left me a little underwhelmed sonically. Not so with the Fantom 0. It is everything I thought the FA was going to be. Fantastic sounds and functionality. Its going to take me some time to get my head around it all, but its going to be fun doing so!
FA disappoints while the Fantom-0 pleases despite the Fantom-0 having the same rehashed JV1080/XV5080 sounds for the millionth time?
@@Jason75913 maybe they upgraded the d/a? Doesn’t have a different engine Zen core or something?
@@fourthtunz Possible, but the difference from D/A change that is fairly subtle.
Roland isn't into making all-new sounds (they should but they won't), Zen-Core still uses the same JV1080 and XV5080 patches as the FA and Juno-DS, even though Zen-Core is a little bit more capable sound engine. I have an MC-707, so I know well, and I can audition the bigger Fantom locally if I feel like it, which just offers more of the same just with more bells and whistles.
Carl Rose is just wow'd by the touchscreen, Fantom-0's overall functionality differs from FA mostly in the sequencer and Ableton integration. They are fairly samey otherwise if you compare their manuals. _Hopefully_ , Roland bothered to update the main acoustic piano patches with better samples for the Fantom-0, but that is unlikely.
For anyone to truly benefit from Zen-Core, you have to get into sound design and create your own patches different from all the '90s stuff that Roland throws in. Zen-Core is very capable of modern sounds, but you are on your own setting that up, Roland won't do it for you. Now take into account that most people buying Fantoms and other Roland keyboards _aren't_ into sound design, so they're unable to actually benefit from Zen-Core. At least the Zenology Pro VST is where people will be more likely to make modern sounds for themselves.
FA is in some semblance superior; depending on your feature requirement. Sonically you'll have a range of complaints about SN on the Fantom; where even on CZcams comparisons, for those who like them, you'll hear that FA/Fantom aren't all that different in many performances and in some cases FA jumps ahead. Is it an upgrade? Depends on what features best suit you. You are losing things from moving from the FA. Fantom-0 has the most horrendous sequencer that I've ever had the misfortune to encounter. No beam (Sad) and the resonance on SN and in many ways the whole device, projects a much thicker and nuanced live sound. To truly make the most of ZC technology - I'd go for the flagship or a modular approach as with the comment above mine.
I love Roland, I love every synth sound that they have, but it's time for Roland to bring some new piano sounds!!! They are losing against Nord and Yamaha in that part!
if the sound of the piano had been a better one, this would be my next keyboard, but the piano sounds disappointed me, the sound is lighter than the big fantom.
Thanks. This looks like an updated FA06 which I bought and sold around five years ago due to the lengthy menu diving and it trying to do so many things (sampler, sequencer, synth) but not achieving any of this to a convincing degree. I wanted to love it. Looks like the same deal but with ZenCore and step sequencer buttons. Will be good for sone people no doubt.
Why are you posting this comment on all videos of this synth
@@halcyondaystunes because he is a queef
@@ehal2303 hablar bien no cuesta nada
It's rather the opposite. A straight to the point live board praised for it's immediacy and focus. Lending it to be one of the most successful stage/gigging boards in our history. Zencore is convoluted comparatively (similar to modx you won't need it all on the fly). As such you're hampered a lot (engine) by it's lower price. I've always held that the best place for the ZC architecture is in the studio (for a workstation type). Modular or specific devices (like Juno) are a different case entirely.
Thanks for the great demo!!
Is Fantom0 can be connected to an external laptop
with no other audio interface, And play a live VST (like Kontakt)
through the Fantom output?
Thanks
I have had mine for a year and your video showed me more succinctly than the any other video . Example I did not even know I had a vocoder.
Great! We're glad you were able to learn more about your FANTOM-0 from our video!
Hallo, Please show me How to display the Tonewheel on the Roland Fantom 06 screen? Can you explain to me how?
Roland F O R E V E R. I have a Juno DS and the previous FA 08, love both. Had other brands, didn't like.
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I hope to get this
Sublime Om 🎹👍
Another question? Anyone know how this would work inside reason 12? Is there any issues in setting it up? I'm just wanting to use this more as a sound source and a controller inside reason 12.
Cool T-shirt! 😎
Can you use the expression pedal to swap between two (or more?) layers of sounds. Thus, for example changing instruments from piano to synth with my feet while playing with both hands? And/or can I use a pedal to go to the next (preprogrammed) patch while playing?
Hey, I've been wanting to know the same. Did you get an answer? Cheers
@@KrishnanR26 I have the 08 now, but I did not find the option to use the expression pedal to swap sounds. There is an global option to inverse a pedal, but then I need to exp pedals. The Keyboard switch group with the pads or using splits is the alternative now.
Can someone tell how many expansion packs can be accommodated in the Fantom O? Heard it is 256 MB only. But wondering how many packs can fit in. Not greedy for that price but want to load a few good pianos, orchestral strings and some Indian tones.
I want that T shirt 👕 😉already preordered my Fantom 💪🏾
How do program the mono-talkbox program
16:15 is all I needed!! :)
FUNKY
Pleasee.... what about the keybed... are they the same than FA 07? Or it's like the poor FA06?
hello, great video. I saw that you can assign the pedals to many things. But can you assign a pedal to the pads? in the sense that I would like to move on to the next group of sounds on the 16 pads. I hope my question is clear. THANKS.
Yes you can!
Many thanks for this overview, really good info there, my only gripe is that I have no idea what DAW or VST are :)
DAW = Digital Audio Workstation, essentially your computer's recording software. This could be Pro Tools, Cubase, Ableton, Logic, Garageband, Reaper, Studio One, etc...
VST = Virtual Studio Technology, which are third-party bits of software (sometimes called plugins) that run within your DAW (or sometimes can be run standalone). VST is just one of the types of plugins available, and VST was developed by Steinberg. Others include AU (Apple), AAX (Avid), etc. Although, "VST" has somewhat become synonymous with what used to be called VSTi, or virtual instruments. So in this context, Todd is speaking mostly about other virtual instrument plugins that the FAMTOM-0 can control.
Does this board have the same sounds as the 707 groove box?
How good is the Daw Control with FL Studio. Do anyone has a experience with it? 🙂
Hi! Can this keyboard load SVD. files? Thanks 🇿🇦🇿🇦
Tell me please what material from made case and parts of the roland Fantom 06, how you feel this keybed? Is it much worse? 🤔 thank you
Plastic case but with a good feel
Can sound designer expansion work inside the fantom 0?
Can you hear the already recorded sample pad audio while recording a new sample pad audio in the sequencer (by triggering)? Or playing more than 4 stereo (or 8 mono) sample pad audio in the sequencer at once? This was one of the annoying limitations in FA series workstations. Lot of FA owners are waiting for the answer before they sell their FA and buy Fantom-O series as manual didn't elaborate on these issues. Although not clear who would buy secondhand old FA06 (Still selling new 2,249 CAD at Long & McQuade) when they can buy the new Fantom-O6 for 2,099 CAD!
The sample pads seem to have all the same limitations on Fantom-0, but polyphony isn't mentioned, so I would assume 4 stereo/8 mono pads at once at best.
In 2020 I bought brand new Yamaha MODX 6. Now I wanna get Roland Fantom keyboard
I want to incorporate an iPad vs a computer with this any suggestions?
thanks for the great review! like and repost )
Do the zen core sounds sound like the Roland cloud vst sounds?
I had an xp50 that had jv1080 sound engine but the roland cloud jv1080 vst was so thin sounding compared to the xp50.
Are Fantom O sounds like a vst?
It is unlikely to match the VST sound due to the hardware adding a bit of its own distortion and noise, plus the DAC will contribute to the sound slightly, all stuff missing inside of the VST.
That aside, does the thinness matter at all once the VST sounds are fitted into the mix? I highly doubt it does. Running the VSTs' sound through hardware like Soundcraft MTK mixers should help add "mojo" and fullness to the sound, too.
Thanks for feedback , I really enjoyed creating songs on xp50 even with such a basic sequencer.
Creating a song from a DAW is not even close sound wise or writing .
@@ShawnBrandon888 I love my Kross2, JD-Xi, MC-707, and FA-06 in about the same way. Massive X and FM8 can do some stuff that my hardware cannot, though, same goes for Kontakt, and The Grandeur kills at piano. Sometimes I just dupe VST presets in my Roland gear from which I develop alternate versions of those presets.
Personally i love my FA 08 and have got used to the studio set and tones architecture. Cant really justify buying this Fantom when the FA 08 is so good and still has loads of features yet to be discovered by myself. Love new Roland gear, but cant see much point in buying this machine. If you are new to Roland synthesizers, then maybe this would be a good start, if you are worried about budget, the FA 06-07-08 is a really good alternative..
Except Fantom-0 'boards are the same price as the old FAs?
But with better front panel controls and a touchscreen.
Juno-DS is the lower-budget option from Roland, though with many, many more limitations. The Korg Kross2 is much more like a "mini-FA/Fantom-0". Keybed's not as good, though.
FA has most of the sounds of the Zen-Core engine in the Fantom and MC-707, and likely this Fantom-0 as well.
I had the FA 07 2times I love that thing! I still have the DS 61 which I guess has some of the sounds but different engines than the FA-07?
I have read that they removed some of the piano tweakability from the new fantom O series. there’s a video on here with a guy comparing both series it looks like they included a little bit more functionality in the new phantom series by took away some features as well
@@fourthtunz FA has the better sequencer, but no touchscreen for practicality. DS61 is just mising the SuperNatural engines from the FA, which are great for acoustic sounds and reproducing vintage synth patches.
Have you tried EXP-04? Its "PremierGrand" patch beats the Supernatural pianos on the FA and Integra-7. Completely. (The latter two can load EXP-04 as well, though.)
EXP-05 has the best Rhodes.
@@Jason75913 Thank you so much for the info! Im mostly a bass player and I do the keys for beginnings of songs. If I remember right I did like the sounds better on the Fa-07, I did load some of the free sounds on the DS but I can't remember if I loaded much for pianos..I'll check them out!
The O series looks like it has some great integration with Logic though? I have controllers but who knows maybe the
O series is the board for me and I can sell some other stuff:) thanks!
Looks real good, though I wonder if Roland would ever consider using a class-compliant MIDI driver, because I'd like to use some piano sounds on an iPhone/iPad as the Roland pianos are not up my street. Overall a well executed board.
If they are like the existing Roland line-up, you can configure in the menus to use class-compliant MIDI over USB. Usb driver, switch from "Vendor" to "Generic".
@@lumer2b I would love to see an example of this or read it in the manual, because Roland tend to change their tune when pressed.
@@tonylancer7367 absolutely works on my Boutique d-05 and MC707
It’s usually a setting that you can change. The daw ctrl button probably shifts it to generic midi as well. They’ve had this capability with keyboards as far back as the Juno Di & Juno G.
@@truthmanifestingtruth Thats MIDI and what I need is audio and MIDI to be sent down one USB cable from an iPad to the Fantom.
As far as I am aware, the MC-707 is one of the devices that can do this, the big machine Fantom can't do it, so I guess when there's a firmware update that makes the Fantom class complaint, the Fantom-0 will receive the same treatment, I hope.
The keys is The same of The Fantom 6? If not, are comparable with which?
different, i would give fantom 6 = 8 for the keybed, and for fantom 06 = 7
Finally a demo with someone who actually can play
Thanks for Sharing, is the body metal or plastic as I like a well build Keyboard.
The main goal for this particular model was being lightweight and portable. Thus, this interation is a plastic body. The original FANTOM series was a metal body.
I am not up to date with current music technology but this is INSANE to me. A decade ago I had to buy protools, midi controller, interface and plugins to be able to come close to what this can do and it does it all in one AND with software if needed. This so so amazing but also so overwhelming to learn and utilize all this stuff I feel like it will take YEARS to learn.
Does this workstation only work with ableton? I ask because I want to buy this synthesizer to compose my songs, is there another possibility? 🤔
The FANTOM-0 series' DAW control is compatible with Ableton, Logic and MainStage.
nice T shirts!!
What about the last drawbar ? There’s no fader for it… 8 faders, 9 drawbars. So can drawbars be controlled on the touchscreen ?
ya
@@Jason75913 thanks
Have you tried using a 9th drawbar on a touchscreen before. I wouldn't recommend it.
Thank u
Thanks for the review mate. I want to know if the keybed for the 61key version is the same as that on the FA-06. I owe an FA--06 but the keybed IMO is not at all satisfying. really not so comfortable to play on. Wonder if the keybed got upgraded on the new fantom-06.
I have an FA06 as well and I share your view of the keybed. Over on roland clan forums, someone got a hands on of the new Fantom 0 and said it was different (better)
@@ckatheman great news. thanks bud
i have both, original fantom and fantom o, i rated original fantom keybed = 8 and fantom o = 7
@@lulebay thx bud. so a bit inferior to fantom but still acceptable. i would rate the FA06=1 or 2:)
@@JJJB yeah, the FA06 keybed is bad. I don’t think it’s cheap as many describe, just poorly designed, small keys, too a short pivot, velocity problems on black keys that were never addressed.
Does this synth have anything new or different or even better than its flagship counterpart?
The whole point is that it has less going on at a fraction of the price, but still the same Zen-Core engine and a bit more.
👍👍👌
But no Cubase support?
Whats the difference between this and the Roland FA - 08 ?
different front panel controls, different sound engines, different sequencers, Fantom-0 does really good Ableton integration
One is masterpiece. The other is called Fantom-0.
I thought about this a couple years ago, “Why wouldn’t Roland pull a Yamaha and do their own MODX?” Well, here if is! I’m excited.
I think they have done more than their own MODX. This is a serious keyboard
@@OptimaMrL I think the MODX is probably one of the most powerful synthesizers on the market. It’s a very good instrument.
@@OptimaMrL functionality is 95% of the older FA, the four big differences are Ableton integration, appearance, front panel controls, and simple loop sequencer
Older FA has better pianos than the Zen-Core pianos, Fantom-0 has all of the FA's other sounds, FA has the better sequencer, just so you know that a very close alternative is about with different strengths and may be going at a reduced prive in your country ;)
@@Jason75913 thank you. For me I need a keyboard that integrates well with MainStage, where I can bring sounds in and out, in a live setting, and it needs to be portable
@@OptimaMrL As in transmit audio over USB? Juno-DS, FA, RD-88, and Fantom-0 are all compatible and portable. The Juno can run on 8 AA batteries for convenience. The bigger Fantom (not Fantom-0), is also compatible, but it is huge and heavy and has a lot more features and Eurorack compatibility, be sure not to get confused.
Yamaha MODX and MOXF are also compatible. They all rock, just decide on the features that you want, and if you are picky about keybeds, FA-08 has the best of all of these followed by the Juno-DS88. I think 61-key is best for portability, but if you must have more, there are 76-key and 88-key versions of all of these keyboards, but RD-88 only comes in one 88-key form, and there are only 61 and 88 key forms for MOXF. RD-88 also has the best piano sounds of all of these, but extra features are far more limited versus the rest, it is a simpler, higher quality instrument, then MODX comes next in best pianos then MOXF. FA and Juno-DS can load the free Roland Axial expansions, and EXP-04 has a piano preset better than anything either keyboard normally comes with. You can count on all of these I've mentioned to be overkill on stage in any event, so pick your features first, then sound(s), I say. Junos will be the lightest in weight.
No one knows if the Fantom-0 series will get the same keybeds as the FA series, we will probably start seeing feedback about their usage in June.
What's the difference between this and the FA 06?
this is baby fantom
a lot, but the FA-06 has a lot of the same sounds
Please explain key action
It's one of the first specs covered at 1:06. The 06 and 07 are unweighted keys for more synthlike action and the 08 is weighted keys for more piano-like action.
Incredible workstation for the price(best option hands down, in this price range....but if Roland Fantom-0 users are limited to just 2 PC DAW options,the least Roland can do, is to include a lite version of these DAW's. Logic is out for me as I have a Windows PC, so I'd have to go with Ableton....but I am not laying down $449 f**king dollars for Ableton Standard(when I already have Reason & Studio One.) 🤬
Ableton Live Lite is included with all Fantoms
@@LudvigOlin Thanks for the info( I couldn't find any such info on the product page on Roland's website.) I imagine the lite version is very restrictive, as even the Intro version of $99 only has 16 tracks. On second thought,I think I'll do all of my recording on the Fantom and then just export it all to my Reason DAW.
the new cubase 12 has a midi remote function that will let you comprehensivly impliment most of the fantom to control the daw and plugins as required. its probably the best thing steinberg has done for a long time. and who owens steinberg??? oh ye.. yamaha ;)
@@markashley6859 I had a Yamaha MOXF that came with Cubase....what a cluster-f**k that was...a real incoherent mess that I never sorted out. Even one of the sound designers for Yamaha told me to stay away from Cubase....& he was right...Cubase is the most counter-intuitive DAW ever created(a very capable & versatile DAW)...but nonetheless, a terrible pain in the ass, so I went with Presonus Studio One(which by the way, was created by some of the team from Steinberg.)
@@HighlandStudio91 I've used Nuendo, Cubase, Pro Tools, Logic, Mixbus, Audition, and even Acid back in the day. Cubase is the easiest to use, in my opinion, along with Nuendo, which is just the fancier, more expensive version of Cubase. I'm currently using Harrison Mixbus 32C, which works well, but there are features from Cubase I miss.
Can you turn off the metronome sound during recording?
Yes
Please make another video where you do a deep dive on the synth engine.
Do this fantom has aftertouch
No aftertouch on these models.
Nice review … I’m sure you get this a lot but if a young Jerry Garcia needed to be played you would be the million dollar man
Fantom G7 is still the best Roland Workstation. It just needs faster USB / Flash ROM ports and RAM. Everything else is superior.
Drake's long lost brother.
Sounds thin? But sure it is probably the recording technic.
This keyboard was recorded direct using the 1/4" outs straight into a Zoom H6 recorder.
@@longandmcquade Well, what was the sampling frequency?
@@samiam9059 48kHz which is standard for audio for video.
@@longandmcquade yep...thx
There isn't anything wrong with their technique. Zencore is accurate but has a somewhat lifeless quality, akin to modern VST.
Blows the overpriced Juno X and Jupiter X out of the water.
The true Value Roland synth is the 0 Series Fantom.
Despite this being a cut and paste bot comment from 10 years ago, you're hilariously wrong and have an infantile understanding of the models and zencore to even believe that in the first place. Do everyone a favour and never comment again.
Sounds like a 20$ 90s Casio Keyboard...
shame about the polyphony problems
So looks like no linear recording on this one...smh.
Since he didn't play it extensively, means there's something wrong with it, meaning the Roland Fantom series is probably not the best. Every demo on CZcams about this shit-piece is very brief on sounds. But hang on I thought the sound is what counts.
Sorry, but you lost me as a viewer after the fifth time you said "super easy".
He must have just really wanted to drive that point home!
What a little baby
after using yamaha montage and modx, then playing this keyboard, i was so disappointed. the sounds are so plasticky, light, dry, lifeless, boring, depressing. the pianos are useless. only the lead sounds are okay... i thought this keyboard would have inherited sounds from roland stage pianos and other flagship fantom but i was wrong. took a bad gamble. if you wanna buy a roland fantom 07, hit me up lol
why dont you do less talk and more demo
Why don't you go to a "sounds only" video? Why are you watching a retailer advertisement? These demonstration videos always have a demonstrator demonstrating the product, which includes verbal explanations of what they are demonstrating.
You seem lost. Good luck to you.
We concur. If it was a "sound only" demo, we might as well be hearing a VST. There's more to a product than just how it sounds. There's a lot about the physical keyboard that needs to be shown and explained in words.
Sounds are good to hear but there's 3k of them. I watched a dozen fantom 06 videos and honestly this simple one sold me the most because it showed me some of the usability advances over fa06 and ds61. The quick and easy rating thing alone - such a simple thing yet so awesome when you have that many sounds! Thx for the video, I'll be visiting the Brampton store 😇👍
Sorry, but totally bored by this .
a very boring synth dude....2023 really Roland ?
Hi! Can this keyboard load SVD. files? Thanks 🇿🇦🇿🇦