Gojo vs Sukuna - The Good, The Bad, and The Strongest
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- čas přidán 23. 09. 2023
- Gojo vs Sukuna is now complete... and in this video I did a deep dive into the fight, what makes it good, bad, and overall evaluating the conflict and the characters' quality in this battle.
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I liked when Sukuna threw a fire extinguisher at Gojo
He was too hot for him on god 😩😩😩🥵🥵🥵
It was definitely a highlight for me 😂
I liked when gojo threw rocks at sukuna
Funniest shit I’ve ever seen.
Nah fr tho 😭😭
5:00 100%
Yuji and todo vs mahito is still peak fight for me but this was an amazing demonstration of the power of the two strongest
Same here. Todo appearing at the time yuji was at his lowest and his speech to yuji was perfect. One of the best jjk moments for me
For me at least, I’d say Yuji+Todo/Mahito, Hakari/Kashimo, Yuta/Sendai, and Gojo/Sukuna are a nebulous top 4 whose order fluctuates each reread
@@tishe5269 I think we can forget that
@@ABCDjjw you know ball
my thoughts exactly
For the entire series people have been commenting about the potential of megumi's technique, Gojo himself stating that a previous user of the 10 shadows was able to match a six eyes+limitless user, but for the majority of the series megumii's technique felt like a bag of mixed tricks rather than a godly ability like Gojo's techniques. The fact that Sukuna was able to win the fight pretty much only using 10 shadows finally demonstrates how broken the ability is.
That's exactly how I feel. One of the reasons that Sukuna used 10S from a narrative perspective was to show us how potentially powerful Megumi can be.
It was a six eyes user, not a six eyes+limitless user that went against that Mahoraga
@@aleena983don't be a dumbass
@@fdaa3154 also Sukuna as reverse CE
without it he would have died a long time ago
hell he wouldn't have even survived a second domain battle
Well no, in the end it was a combination of the 10 shadows + cleave what won the fight. Mahoraga died and everything.
I think it’s gonna be wayyyy better in the anime, they just always refine the fights and moments
Most of the time, but that's not what happened for melodias vs escanor
@@eriklavina2828 well we’re not taking about seven deadlyframes
@@50895 they were indeed deadly
@@50895💀💀💀
@@50895Seven deadly frames 😭😭
While I'm still iffy on the whole off-screen death I still really think this was a near-perfect conclusion for Gojo. His talk with Getou was great.
I think an off screen death keeps Gojo's image intact. What would Gege draw? Gojo making a face and falling off the bottom half of his body? Or Gojo having a slow death as Sukuna slowly cut his body in half?
Ngl that’s the only reason I reckon he’ll be resurrected. If he was to be killed they would have shown sukuna do the business just like in inventory arc.
well, he didn't mention anything about his student and only mentioned sukuna and how he is not even trying that hard. and Sukuna is going to massacre all of his beloved students, the future that he is trying to build. Among all the people Gojo is probably the one who understands the most of what will happen if he dies. Respect your opinion but I think that even the dialogue is not that good, it just makes Gojo from a good and benevolent teacher to a hard-headed that only craves power and fun, which completely contradicts everything that has built up for Gojo from the start. Gojo is goofy, but also responsible, and chapter 236 not only ends him off-screen but screws his character overall.
It's a great fight but in the last chapter it was lazy writing! U can't deny that why suddenly gojo praising sukuna it's not his character dude lmaooo
@@kunal3485 praising sukuna and zero mention about his student, crazy. This guy he praising and said that is still holding back gonna murder all of his student lol. Peak fiction- top tier writing
I'm pretty sure everyone found the transition from Gojo standing triumphant in one panel to finding him in heaven, then transitioning to his dead body was jarring. And it seems Gege realized that in his author comment, Potentially we either get another chapter to fill in the gaps or BR's smokedemon begins to cook
Where’d you see author comments?? I’d like to know what he said
@@bibitoast Gege said that because he took a week break it feels like he skipped a chapter. So a lot of people think he actually did (he didn't)
@@markclinton9088 thanks, I just looked it up. Apparently he’s been getting death threats smh some people are too much
@@bibitoasteh of course he did always happens when a chapter is controversial. The fucktards never go away
@@bibitoastdeath threats dont mean much on the internet from strangers. A 10 yo could be writing those death threats. Its not that serious.
Throughout Heaven and Earth I alone am the offscreened one - Satoru Goatjo
225 was my favorite chapter of the fight, I’ve never seen a power system handled so well that it allows for an entire chapter of characters debating how these two abilities will interact. All that build up just for Sukuna to easily destroy Gojo’s domain and slice his neck. Also I always read it that they did tell Gojo about the open domain, but even Gojo had no idea what they would actually do so he only had one option, to just try it and see what would happen
Yeah, I'm not sure why everyone is so convinced he wasn't told about it. Nobody in that room even knows how an open domain would interact with a closed one, so it's not like Gojo would have done anything differently either way. It only came into play because the refinement of the two domains was equal (which is such a rare scenario). If Gojo gets into a domain battle with Kenjaku for example, he would simply overpower Kenny before the open barrier even plays a role. So it's very likely Gojo knew, I don't see the argument that he didn't.
@@vayne-he9yi The reason some of us think he had no idea is coz when choso brought up this thing of open domain, everyone was surprised by that and they even said it was impossible. So why would everyone be surprised about something they already discussed but, I do agree that even if Gojo knew he would stll try to open his own domain and see wassup
He obviously didn’t know about it
@@user-kd2rt7xb9git looks like you’re the only one who paid attention
@@MindlessMenace Why not? What would Gojo have done differently whether he knew or not. Either way it comes down to who has more refinement so it's no different to a standard domain clash in that way. It's not like anyone in the room would know how the domain clash between open and closed wouild go. It's not hard to believe that Yuji personally told Gojo during the month time skip.
14:20 Just to play devil’s advocate here, I think Yuji chose not mention Sukuna having an open barrier domain because he didn’t understand its significance.
I did sorta expect for Gojo to toss Sukuna around, but what I REALLY wanted was to see them toss Maximum Techniques, create new abilities with a myriad of effects in them, possibly bring out new Domain Types, etc.
The fight mostly boiled down to a back-and-forth of both Gojo and Sukuna beating the shit out of each other until the final attack was delivered.
Gojo clutching Malevolent Shrine was hype
That’s what I was saying I wanted a 50/50 fight not a 70/30 fight then just switch who’s wining
@@1xtcy That’s the Record Of Ragnarock format in a nutshell: dominate the majority of the fight then the other character turns around and wipes. That’s why I had a gut feeling Gojo would lose, especially with how many times he said he’d win, but I wanted to see how Sukuna did it in detail, and not get King Crimson’d to the afterlife scene the very next chapter.
@@JohnGlow2 😂😂😂😂ong
@@JohnGlow2the fight was ruin. Gege didn't have anyway for sukuna to by pass infinity so he made one up lol
isn't that how writing counters to abilities work in general? just like he just made up an ability that nearly makes Gojo invincible. when you write in fiction you usually make shit up.@@brandonjablasone7544
Wukuna truly Jujutsu'd Gojo's Kaisen
Fucking love this comment
This is it. This is the comment
Jujutsu is Sukuna we made along the way
I loved this fight, probably my favorite from the series, the only thing i didn't like was the "Sukuna was holding back" moment, because this implies that Gojo never had a chance, and he surpassed his limits for nothing
Same
Yep it felt forced
I think the holding back means Sukuna is not using every arsenal that he has like the black box. Not holding back his strength.
@@crimson9790 I think it was the implication that his body was much weaker than it was in the Heian era, I could be wrong though.
@@gabington8990nah, implication from throughout the series is that he’s arguably stronger now, as the fingers grow in power everyday. But I do believe he wasn’t holding back any actual physical strength but techniques that aren’t really effective against Gojo, but for anyone else it would be. That’s my take on it. I also think Gojo and Kusakabe are unreliable sources for this since from Gojo’s perspective he just got one shotted by cleave and most likely didn’t hear a single thing Sukuna said, so he probably just assumed Sukuna had that cleave from the start or something similar, and Kusakabe was just theorizing since it would be the most logical way he can think of for Sukuna to approach the battle. Especially when we have statements from Sukuna contrasting Gojo’s statements saying that without Mahoraga’s adaptation he probably wouldn’t have won, it brings Kusakabe and Gojo’s beliefs into question.
Sadly, the fanbase ruined this fight for me. Now, the choreography and mind games from both sides was amazing. The reveals about cursed energy, and the characterization were really solid, but the fans on both sides of the fight decided to turn to whole thing into a pissing match, calling the entire series ruined, or worse, sending death threats. It’s hard enjoying something when the people surrounding that thing are so insanely annoying.
The Itachi Sasuke fan base came over and started stanning Gojo and Sukuna instead
I liked the part where you mentioned the mindsets these 2 had before coming in the fight.
Its not like Gojo wasn't trying to win but its just that he wasn't as desperate as Sukuna. Sukuna did EVERYTHING right. Trying to adapt to UV, not using Mahoraga until the perfect moment. He had Gojo noted down and used perfect tactics against him. Whereas for Gojo, he threw what he could even ignoring the damage that he's causing to himself (he def didn't think he had a random nosebleed). He used Hollow Purple at the very start, he was just excited to throw everything which is why he was looking for validation from Sukuna like when he used Falling Blossom Emotion.
As for Sukuna, he was different. he could've spammed Shikigamis, could've spammed dismantles, could've used an unadapted Mahoraga just to get more assist but he didn't cuz his main objective was to kill Gojo and not just cure his loneliness.
All an all this isn't trying to powerscale. Sukuna was more calculative than Gojo, still my man did a really good job even when the opponent knew all his cards.
Where was he looking for validation??
recent chapter #227 when he was talking to geto@@MindlessMenace
@@MindlessMenace gojo said that he threw everything he cultivated against sukuna and wished to share with him the love of an equal battle. He wished to prove himself to sukuna.
@@itsyaboy9829 This is so gross considering this is the same Sukuna that mind fucked and tortured both Yuji AND Megumi. Gojo is a trash mentor as of chapter 236.
@@MindlessMenace He said "I learned this as a kid but didn't use it much after mastering my domain, not bad right?" , after using falling blossom emotion.
BROKEN, your vids are amazing, your scripting and pacing are incredible and your attention to detail and covering of the themes is profound 👌 another banger (:
I think what made the true difference in this battle wasn't their stats and skill but their experience. We see that when they domain clash they are equal when they throw hand they are equal when they fight using curse technics they are equal. They both have unlimited stamina they can both surprise and outbox each other they can both break established rules and push sorcery to its limits and beyond but what made the true difference was their knowledge and understanding of the nature of curses and cursed energy. Gojo has the six eyes and with that comes supreme understanding and control of curse energy but sukuna is over a thousand years old he not only has greater control and understanding of curse energy then Gojo but greater knowledge and verity in his cursed Arsenal and application of that course energy that is why he could adapt and bypass infinity that is why he can pick up a new curse technic and use it better then all it's users ever have that is why every time Gojo seemed to do thee impossible sukuna matched him by doing the Same and that is why he is the king of all curses.
If Gojo had a thousand years he would have won no doubt in my mind but he only had 28 and despite the sheere gap in knowledge and experience he was still able to go toe to toe with the king of all curses and even make him nervous that alone speaks volumes of his talent and strength.
Rip Gojo satoru you are the Honored one and we will never forget you
hands defo gojo >>>>>>>> but everything else, absolutely.
You get it💯
I’m surprised a lot of people still get this wrong. Sukuna is from a 1,000 years ago, but his actual age isn’t 1,000+ years. He’s most likely around the same as Gojo if anything.
@@shoomertSukuna died of old age and had his corpse mummified. He likely had a few people eat his fingers between the Heian Era and now to witness even more cursed techniques
If gojo had a barrier less domain he would’ve smashed sukuna, so I agree that the difference was their experience showing at the end of the battle.
The problem isn't that Gojo lost. I think everyone expected him to die. The problem is the way he died and then the diminishing of everything he did, seemingly without any reason or showings to back up that Sukuna was actually holding back.
How about you learn to wait and see for yourself? I know its hard for gojo fans but please do try.
@@ryomensukuna4526try what lol
Wait for what?
@@googilyeyes6397 For the next chapters lil bro. The manga doesn't end when your favorite character dies 💀
@@ryomensukuna4526 no one ever said that's why gojo fans are pissed.
You said that and other sukuna fans lol thats called strawmanning
@@ryomensukuna4526no one said that, they're talking about Gojo's contributions being lacking in the plot, and Gojo's character does indeed mostly end when he fucking bites the dust, genius
Brilliant explanation, it’s like mahoraga keeps adapting until it finds the simplest way to deal wit something , kinda how a phone update makes certain tasks simpler that required many steps before
I absolutely love how you analyze aspects of not just this fight but jjk as a whole. Im engaged throughout each video.
Been waiting for this Broken incredible analysis
In terms how you felt about the lack of personality I felt the complete opposite.
While I felt like we could've gotten more if we traded out some of the peanut gallery's exchanges for Gojo and Sukuna's thoughts and dialogue, I feel like their body language and facial expressions really went above and beyond this fight.
We've seen worry and joy to degrees we haven't seen these characters display before because they were both simply too damn strong in their fights. Gojo and Sukuna both we're having more fun in that fight than they have in the entire series because they seriously pushed each other.
Gege really showed that with the drawings rather than the dialogue like you were hoping for.
Sukuna being able to use Max elephant's water without summoning it was something that foreshadowed him using mahoraga's adaptation as a blueprint since the consciousness seems to be shared between him and his shikigami
The moment Gojo's loss was solidified was the moment mahoraga successfully sliced through gojo's infinity cause that showed sukuna exactly how to do it
He does state that mahoraga was capable of altering the very essence of it's cursed energy in order to neutralize infinity but that was something sukuna was unable to do
But the moment mahoraga could use dismantle to slice through gojo's infinity, sukuna finally knew what had to be done to finally beat Gojo
It seems sudden on a weekly reading basis
But once you reread it, you'll see just how early it was put into motion
That's why I'm your subscriber. Best analysis of the fight so far. Congratulations.👏👏👏
Thanks for the vid bro, I enjoyed it
Bro you COOKED with this video. Kudos good sir. Also I really hope its explained later on why none of the sorcerers mentioned Sukuna's Barrier less Domain to Satoru prior to the fight.
I appreciate that man, thank you thank you 🙏
And yea I definitely want that explained in some capacity cause its still crazy to think about
17:35 & 29:44 THANK YOU. A CZcamsr who is not just saying things for views. An honest opinion. I wish there were more like this.
You outdid yourself with this vid, its very impresive how you keep someone engaged for an entire 35+ minute video.
hopefully this your first million view video because this was really well done & probably your best so far. though i wont ever let gege off the hook for off-screening gojo, this video was the only thing that’s brought me closure since i read 236. 10/10
A chapter or 2 of sukuna slowly figuring out how to adapt his slashes to infinity as well as showing gojo getting more fatigued and moving slower would have been nice cause now u just having gojo being offed from an advantageous position. Especially when hes been shown to have had the speed advantage for most of the fight and is now amped on top of it. So sukuna instantly blitzing him while weak makes no sense. And gege probably knew it looked really bad so he just put in the part saying sukuna was holding back as an explanation but all that means is sukuna is incompetent cause he put himself into alot of bad situations multiple times just to test maho i guess which also goes against his character since we know hes prideful and wont let himself look bad on propose.
You were not paying attention, Sukuna's cleave is fast as hell the very first cleave he threw a Gojo. Gojo had to turn around and see what the hell Sukuna had done because he saw the building behind him slashed and Gojo put two and two together. Gojo was not only further way in that panel and couldn't dodge it especially if he had to turn around because he couldnt see what had happened. Meaning at the range Gojo was at as soon as Cleave was adapted it was over.
@@NothingnessKingcleave was never seen to be able to adapt like that.
It can only cut objects and people based on cursed energy.
It has never been foreshadowed to be able to target space
@@NothingnessKing Gojo was never surprised by its speed but why Sukuna used his technique and then missed.
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl cleave is for people. dismantle is for inanimated objects
@@MoMo-vt2ij and how do you go from people and objects to cutting space?
No matter what else you may think of the series as whole, you can't deny that this fight is one of the most iconic in the medium. Not many people were sure he would be able to meet the audience's expectations but Gege really outdid himself with this one.
Yeah I quite agree. Really excited for Yuji's future.
It was until the ending
@@kennynyc1197 ending was the best part imo lol.
Not really i love jjk but when it comes to iconic fights in manga as a whole that will be remembered for generations this ain't it
Exactly people that have a problem with anything and I mean ANYTHING are just mad because this fight didn’t go how they really wanted it to
Great video, definitely shined a new light on it for me (it was really mixed opinion for me too)
Out of all the videos I've seen I think that this unlike the Gojo Vs Sukuna fight is your best one yet🎉🎉🎉 keep up the good work
It's kinda annoying how YOU are the only one to point out that Sukuna's victory wasn't random it was there if you played close attention
Sukuna had a winners mindset he came in this fight with the intentions to win calm calculated and smooth with it
For real against limitless user with six eyes
I've been looking for a measured take on this fight for weeks, feeling insane that people have been so down on it because people just. Don't know how to handle the emotional position of reading weekly manga. Thank you for having such a good perspective. What I WILL say, though, is that I think it's not unintentional that the dialogue goes towards characterizing the peanut gallery and their understandings of jujutsu and the fight itself.
Gojo and Sukuna exchange barbs but at the end of the day, as the strongest of their eras, they're conversing THROUGH jujutsu. Fights are dialogue too and their back and forth with domains and fists help them speak to each other more directly than words have ever touched them. Are there some raw things Gojo could've said? Sure! But the fact that he improvised an on the fly Hollow Purple responding to Sukuna's moves in just such a way to have him experience its full force all to get him to realize just how much fun jujutsu is says just as much as a stray line of dialogue imo. In a genre like battle shonen where fights do so much to characterize people, I think its important to remember that conflict is conversation.
Finally diving into huh?
NIce.
Saying gojo “Self proclaimed” the strongest is crazy
Really wild lol
Really dude 😂
I believe there is truly something to be said of the 2 strongest people of their respective eras, only being able to find solace within each other.
In a way, Sukuna was able to reach out Gojo, if only through his technique and Gojo was finally relieved of the burden that came with his strength.
I truly am looking forward to future of this series, if only to see what becomes of our beloved students and the generation they will surely represent.
Unfortunately they did not find solace within each other 😂
Gege even tells us Gojo wasnt even close... its stupid but it is what it is
@@semekiizuiothey did find solace. Gojo gave everything he had in this fight against sukuna and enjoyed the fight. Sukuna said that he'll never forget gojo till the day he dies. Their love reached each other.
@@itsyaboy9829 Not it did not. Gojo gave everything he had yes and yet Sukuna held back, Gojos "love" did not reach Sukuna. We even get a panel in Gojo afterlife "if anyone can teach him about love...." it is left open ended because it has not been revealed yet (its obvious Yuuji tho)
@@semekiizuioyou are wrong, sukuna letting gojo schedule the date for their fight was his respect and admiration for strength
To him a hierarchy not based on power is meaningless so he always respects strength but it's just that to sukuna him fighting and killing gojo is respect in itself and that is exactly why he calls gojo and kashimo greedy, by fighting gojo he is already fulfilling his wish and showing his respect and love
@@darren9678 again Gojo did not reach Sukuna, its literally stated in Gojo Dream chapter
Hands down the best review so far on Gojo vs Sukuna Part 1 fight.
Indeed.
Sukuna ( king of curses) vs Gojo ( the strongest in the modern age )
Very good analysis BR.
I agree with this video wholeheartedly. With the magnitude of the fight, am sure that people wanted it to be more like the most important battle in the series. But the fight does it’s job as a steppingstone for the next gen.
Gege has the opportunity to show use Gojo’s sacrifice as a boost for each of the students, since they also watched the fight.
The future is bright
I’m still not sure what my overall thoughts are on the fight, but it was cool seeing the jjk community interact as the chapters of the fight came out weekly.
Love this guys content.
Just what I’ve been waiting for
Sukuna's barrierless DE & his ability to do anything just by watching it be done were the things that killed Gojo. His lack of info on these 2 things that were overlooked as minor details became a big enough difference in deciding a winner in a battle of the strongest that was toe to toe throughout the entirety of the battle. These 2 details led by Sukuna's battle experience were what had eventually reached someone who had always been untouchable. What a battle
I think my problem with this chapter is not the individual points/explanations/insight that we get. It’s more the combination of them all to justify what happened. After reading this fight back I start to think what was the point of sukuna getting 10 shadows from a writing perspective? The obvious answer is that he needed mahoraga to show him how to use cleave to target existence and bypass infinity. But that explanation implies that this is technically something he potentially could’ve thought of on his own. Then we get into the idea that sukuna is so strong that nobody could reach him and he is lonely at the top. If this is true then again why would Gege give him the 10 shadows? A blatant power up. Cause then we see gojo say that he probably couldn’t beat sukuna even without the 10 shadows. I understand the argument that sukuna is a villain of course he is going to do everything he can to win including fight dirty but to me that doesn’t make sense if he’s supposed to be lonely at the top, you would think it would be a situation more like kenpachi where he would try to make things as challenging as possible to enjoy the fight the most. That to me would mean using his own abilities and trying to figure out a way past gojo’s CT on his own. I’m definitely rambling but I feel like there’s a good amount of contradictions embedded here that I haven’t seen people piece together so maybe I’m missing something
Yuji's body was a prison. So bro needed to pull a jail break, it is implied that there is a gap between Gojo and Sukuna but it isn't wide enough for Sukuna to get away with killing Gojo and not getting immediately one tapped by the students so bro saw the chess piece that allows him freedom, a win possibility combined with survival, and a chance to get even stronger. Realistically he'd be a fool not to do it.
@@holymoly-ii6of "Tbh I'm underwhelmed with the reveal that Sukuna only wanted the 10S to use Mahoraga to figure out a counter to infinity (something which apparently he can possibly still do on his own )"
This was never stated/revealed, just that Sukuna's STRATEGY for this fight in particular, given that he had Mahoraga in his arsenal, was that he chose this way to learn how to "strip Gojo of his scales" i.e. his infinity. Not that he could've never learned otherwise, which is in line with Sukuna stating he would defeat Gojo before he ever took interest in Megumi.
Y'all acting like Sukuna didn't figure out how to bypass gojo's infinity before the fight started but was only possible through mahoraga
@@quincybenwood5331he didn’t. He only knew that domain amplification and domain expansion would get through. He legit states that he needed maho to figure out how to bypass infinity with any of his non physical or domain attacks. Ppl say sukuna is the smartest because he as able to copy a shikigami whose ability allows it to adapt to all phenomena, not because he somehow figured it out prior
Sukuna never said that he was lonely at the top and wanted to be reached. All Sukuna cares about is his pleasure and displeasure. He doesn’t care about the title “strongest” he only cares about the title of “winner”. For example if base sukuna no 10s had a 70% chance of winning but sukuna with 10s had a 90% chance he’s taking the 10s every time. Nowhere that I can remember states that Sukuna would nerf himself to make a fight “entertaining “
Really liked the video. Well done. I agree with you on a lot of the points but what I wanted to discuss was the “character flare” and peanut gallery commentary.. like you said at the end of the video I do think the true value of all of that was to show how much the students were paying attention and how much and why they learned to be more creative and free. I think this is especially true for Yuta since his entire understanding of RCE has changed and he fundamentally had a misunderstanding of it. Cause I think he trained in the last month to learn how to copy the 6 eyes and how they will inevitably foil kenjaku again…. But that’s for another day…. I think as it comes to the no personality not only is it fully in Sakuna character it highlight the theme of the fight….. Sakuna vs bug lady was weak cause everyone thought she was a weirdo but she introduced one of the most important themes. And even as we look into kashimo fight Sakuna is opening by saying essentially you talk alot. I don’t think he enters battle with any intent of opening up, of trying to understand or be understood. He intention is linear and focused… to unalive his opponent. He never even explains his CT ever. Unlike almost all bad guys I’m cartoons. He never runs his mouth or explains his plan. So he was never going to give you character. You did highlight in your video how Sakuna was really only nervous when Gojo output retuned. I think we didn’t get much inside his mind because as you said… Sakuna was in control the whole time and I think that would have made it anticlimactic if at every turn Sakuna goes “just as I planned”…. It also highlights as you said how Gojo was never the guy to show Sakuna about love and Gojo talks about this as says he put everything including his humor….. I think that this criticism will be challenged when Sakuna fights Yugi/Megumi….. he will go all out and he will open up
I completely agree on the part u said about gege switching from the fight to commentary can be a little off sometimes, but aside from explaining whats going on to the readers, I think he did that to show that the charas doing the commenting has seen it happen, constantly think about it and may attempt to do the same in the future, like how yuta talkin bout fixing burnout CT with RCT, or higuruma with domain amplification, or some other commentary that we didnt notice that may be of use when all of them jump sukuna or kenjaku later on in the manga.
Personally as someone on team Gojo I actually loved the way Gege did this. Narrativly we knew Gojo couldnt win win, but many had hope he would just be nerfed or something to that effect. So Gege killing him the way he did was a great way to get a genuine gut punch to all of us because no 1 was ready for what happened and when it happened
People are used to popular characters never dying so it's come as a shock an immensely popular character gets shut down
The alien boy line was honestly the best diss during the fight.
32:44 I completely agree on the dialogue between characters part, i knew the fight was missing smth i just couldnt put my fingers on it till now, maybe cuz i was too drenched in the hype of the leaks dropping each week lol. Although it didnt lessen the fights value that much for me imo, it did lack smth that i didnt notice at first, like the i am u moment yuji had or the just this once with yuta, its like the fight was missing a "dessert" part but was still peak n full of surprise for me
You brought up a lot of really good points that’s why I like your content its well formed while also being respectful of other peoples opinions I agree that this isn’t the best fignt narratively I prefer Mahito vs yuji it would also make for a great cideo😊
I think chapter 236 adds context to the entire fight and made me reevaluate why it was presented the way it was: two gods of the verse, whom nobody (except possibly Kashimo, the "God of Lightning") can understand, trying to comprehend not only their techniques, but the two personalities and minds at play. For a while, I was wondering about what kind of emotion these two were feeling, the lack of animosity between them, but in light of 236 where Gojo explains that even his attempts at humor (in the TCB translations I think) were done in an attempt to reach Sukuna (to assuage Gojo's own unbearable burden of loneliness), gave me an incredible moment of clarity. They don't hate each other at all, they want to fight, they want to experience living.
Calling Gojo a meathead because he enjoys fighting is disingenuous, just like Kashimo isn't a meathead, nor is Sukuna. Think about what are cursed techniques? Something to do with your brain, something to do with your soul. We exist in this world mind, body, soul entirely. For them to enjoy fighting, the expression of their soul and their way of interacting and viewing the world, is to enjoy living.
Even if everyone including Gojo knew about sukuna has a barrierless DE no one would have thought that their sure-hit effect potencies will be equal in strength.
In chapter 230 sukuna states that "Next time I will close the barrier of my domain and you will have nowhere to run" that means sukuna uses a barrierless domain that provides an escape route, this drastically increases the range of guaranteed hit through the compensation law of a Binding vow.
Open DE only has advantage when the sure-hits are equal.
You cooked with this one. Basically all of my praise and complaints were covered in the vid
You probably won’t see this, but I think you’re a great content creator, I use to watch your Anime X what ifs, and now I’m watching your jjk vids years later, keep on creating bro your gonna be super big one day
Over a year ago, I came on your twitch stream and called that Sukuna's domain would counter Gojo's I called Gojo a fraud Honoured One and said he'd lose and now here we are. My man became the Severed One
the domain thing was clearly wrong since gojo's is clearly superior.
I think there's an important aspect about the way sukuna was able to cut gojo from a narrative standpoint. The story consistently lays down the thesis that the strongest are the greediest and most selfish, therefore the most isolated. While gojo still had some inclination both toward the approval of sukuna himself and his colleagues, sukuna developed a technique to cut into 'existence' itself, which essentially means seeing himself apart from - and against - everything. It seems very intentional that we're shown those things on the same chapter. Yeah gojo was kind of a psycho, but still a guy with bonds and people to look after. Sukuna has now become a curse who sees literally everything as something to cut. And without a challenger like Gojo, he is probably at his loneliest, putting the story at the perfect and most extreme spot to really prove or disprove that thesis. And since you CANNOT defeat sukuna in a battle of greed, there's gotta be another way.
Where does this greediest title come from head canon?
@@melkdoesartit's literally mentioned throughout the manga bruh
@@melkdoesart It's not a title bro, just the path to be the strongest. Sukuna, Gojo and Kashimo all emphasize this notion throughout the story. Think Nanamin mentioning that Sukuna only lives for himself, or when Gojo tells Megumin to be greedier, or Sukuna telling Jogo he should've burnt everything in his path, or Kashimo not retreating from an impossible situation cause 'that's how losers think'. But since you've mentioned titles, think about the notion of gojo proclaiming himself to be the one and only 'honored one', a title Sukuna also had in his time. It's all in our face.
@@nandhitanarendratmaja1302 Sukuna is selfish, cold-hearted, immoral, and exceptionally sadistic no where said or stated greedy
@@HenriqueRLima-vz7ny sukuna was called the honored on by others tho not himself?
Edit:- gege himself stated he was the honored one Gojos the self proclaimed one if i say I'm elon musk does that make the elon musk? Ofc not the same goes for gojo. Gojo just put up and act saying he's the strongest he'll win so his students don't feel demotivated like a good sensei that's all
well said 👍🏾
Without the seemingly missing chapter between this and the previous, I'm left feeling otherwise satisfied. I just can't abide by the finish happening off-screen like that.
I think the characters analyzing and discussing the fight, although it disrupts the action, is important because it let's the readers know that the cast is studying/understanding the fight/abilities of sukuna as well as the damage he sustains. They did say that the plan is to jump sukuna if ever gojo loses. Aside from exposition, it let's the readers know that gojo can definitely lose and the team is preparing for it.
Haven’t even started the video and I know my goat’s gonna cook
I appreciate that man, def one of my best videos I feel
@@BrokenRoninyou think I could tongue punch your fartbox?
Damn, your videos are so good! I Have an issue with this finishing move of sukuna's though. If he learned how to slice space when mahoraga cut gojo's arm, why did he wait until after gojo released the unlimited hollow?
Thank you for not posting this until sunday
Hey Ronin, do you think that after breaking Gojo's domain in the first domain clash, sukuna could've just chopped his head with his slash as we know his ct allows him to throw slashes even without his domain so in his domain where gojo has no infinity shouldn't he just chop his head the way he did to geto's daughters in the recent episode (*from a total power scaling pov)
Edit : is that what gojo meant by sukuna holding back & not giving it his all).
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I dont think that knowing if Sukuna had an open or closed domain mattered. Gojo has absolutely no experience at all fighting an open domain prior to this point, and Sukuna is such a master at manipulating cursed energy that it probably didn't matter if Gojo knew about it or not. I think he'd *always* have to adapt on the fly regardless, which is why we didn't get panels of Gojo being told Sukuna's domain was an open one.
Thanks Ronin, you and Mere have a much more open minded logical opinions.
I agree on the lack of character to character dialogue and inner monologue in certain panels. The only one I can remember was Gojo wondering why Maho wasnt being summoned then it slowly we get less and less dialogue and monologue.
Also want to point out at first Gojo also came with the mindeset to save Megumi by breaking Sukuna body. Then that was completely thrown out the window along with any mention from Gojo in the afterlife. I dont really get it, it did feel like a 180 to Gojo character not so much the death or the fight
I can only look foward to Yuuta now, all the daddies are gone or will be 😔 Good Luck Yuuta
To me, it felt like Gege had the best chance to get rid of gojo for good, and this fight was just another check box to hurry and complete.
The gojo vs sukuna fight felt like a pathfinder society player explaining why their character is so min/maxed it could fight the tarrasque.
And I mean that in the most minimizing way possible
With respect to the idea no one told Gojo about Sukuna's domain being without barrier:
I see it more as he could have had the general knowledge but to witness it utilizing the six eyes grant an understanding of a technique that second hand knowledge cannot - so he needed "exposure therapy" to adapt/acclimate to malevolent shrine, so to speak.
Or maybe he thought that Sukuna’s domain, even if it is open, will not expand beyond his barrier. After all, Gojo had no experience with an open domain.
Yuji also just may not have understood what it was or it’s significance. The domain was explained that chapter but explanation was said by the narrator not sukuna.
@@Kisuke258wouldn't choso has some awareness consodering that yuki and tengen panicked when they realized kenjaku domain is open
They all got shocked at the idea
They didn't know
Yuji saw the domain but remember domains look huge from inside and was mentally broken
Inumaki saw his arm gone but how he gonna know it was a domain
It was choso after hearing multiple povs that he SUGGESTED that MAYBE sukuna doesn't have a barrier closed
I dont know if this is valid to say but i hate the way the fight ended not because gojo died i actually wanted that to happen but its because it basically took place off panel and i cant help but hate that
But overall it was a good fight and i thibk this video was also really good keep up the good work
Thanks for encapsulating my problems with this fight. I enjoyed it but I wish we had more dialogue back and forth and their actual inner dialogue and plans. The peanut gallery was OK but felt like fans irl speculating back and forth causing more confusion and redherrings. I actually enjoy Sukuna trash talking. I can't recall a memorable line besides the challenger and the fish scale comment. Hopefully Kashimo brings the heat.
As a big fan of the series this has quickly becoming my favorite fight in the manga because it was a true battle of the strongest and none of the other fights come close to it at all
Sukuna cutting through Gojo's limitless like butter after seeing what happened when Jogo *and* Hanami simultaneously tried the exact same thing is a really overlooked part of this fight I feel.
Also I don't know if telling Gojo about Sukunas' barrier less domain expansion would've mattered or help because nobody in the cast has seen a barrier less domain interact with a domain with a barrier at this point anyway.
All I want in the coming chapters is a REASON, from both a narrative and logical perspective for Gojo's unsealing. Because at this point it seems like all he succeeded in doing was making Sukuna even more broken. Is Sukuna permanently maimed from the fight? Did he give his students some hyper training in the timeskip that's going to pay off later? I know the gang didn't just break that boy out the box just to sit there and watch him die on pay-per-view...
This was a great video. Still no idea why sukuna ate that last hollow purple if he already had the blueprint but still great chapter great video lol.
Yo @BrokenRonin. Fantastic video. I hopped on it the moment you posted.
I genuinely share the same feeling you do for the fight. I remember on the Honoured Ones Podcast, the week of the 200% HP, you baited me into expecting a spectacle where Gojo and Sukuna fought on a Saitama Vs. Garou scale😂. I legit expected that to happen nxt chapter but oh well.
I honestly think it's as you said, Gege's intention for this fight are made clear with the context of tidbits he laid out in the whole of the Culling Game.
On a first read, I was skeptical, but after re-reading again and again, and removing the expectations I set on this fight, I've also learned to let Gojo go, to let him enjoy the freedom that comes with being released from the title and responsibility of the Strongest.
Damn, I kinda feel selfish for wanting him to have held onto that burden to the end of the series.
Anyway, great work bro!
Sukana won with a bullshit space slash.
Since when can his slashes effect space?
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl The story has emphasised that Sukuna can see something once and learn it. Angel said this. Sukuna saw Gojo heal with rct and he did it.
He couldn't use Cleave to cut through space, which is why he learned how to do it from Mahoraga. Nothing about it wasn't foreshadowed or explained.
We even see Sukuna urging Mahoraga to give him what he wants in 234.
And the context in 236 tells us that cutting through a space isn't a spammable Sukuna had developed. It took, as far, as the manga states, more than 41 seconds after he saw Mahoraga do it, to master it.
@@animatrix5945 yeah that isn't how this works, rct is something all sorcerers can do.
It just a matter of skill.
That isn't how CT works.
CT is limited in what it can do and is limited to only one person.
Mahoroga adaption CT doesn't just give him the knowledge how to counteract act the phenomenon but also the power to do it.
There is a big difference between knowing how to do something and being able to physically do it
Sukana CT was never seen being able to effect space or have adaptive powers.
It can only cut objects and people based on cursed energy.
Even if Sukuna knows he should be targeting space from mahgroga.
His CT has no foreshadowing that it is capable of doing something like that.
In fact there is only anti foreshadowing for something like that as Sukuna gets his slashes wrong all the time
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl You do realise that Cleave, is introduced in Shibuya as a technique that adapts to its target right?
Furthermore, are you aware that Mahoraga showed two different types of adaptation? The first one, Sukuna admits he couldn't do because he can't change the nature of his CE like Mahoraga does.
But when it does a slash that expands its target to not just Gojo but his surroundings as well, which includes space, Sukuna learns and does this since Cleave literally has adaptation in its description.
If you haven't noticed, in JJK the theme of the interpretation of your own technique being what determines it is prevalent.
Like Megumi broadens the horizon of his TS by making clones of himself, he literally says this as he does.
Gojo does the same thing, expanding the effects of Blue and Red in this entire fight in a way that we've never seen.
The fact that Sukuna can adjust the interpretation of Cleave, which adjusts to the target's toughness and CE, to target space itself, isn't wild at all, considering that some of the stuff Mahoraga was doing was beyond even him
@@animatrix5945 cleave only adapt it's slashing strength based on the cursed energy of the enemy.
Even then sukuna was seen misscaluting his slashes all the time.
And blue and purple are products of reverse cursed energy. Not the normal technique some how changing nature.
The CT changes nature because it gets powerd by positive energy.
Megumi primarily ability is shadows.
And what he does is just more of that plus the domain.
Sukana slashes being able to effect space has never been foreshadowed.
It's only seen slashing objects and people adapting it's strength {not it's nature} based on cursed energy
Proper foreshadowing would be to say that cleave can adapt based on cursed CT not cursed energy
That or us seeing before that it can distort space so we know effecting space is part of its nature.
Sukuna holding back plus Gojo getting off screened ruins the fight for me. Sukuna holding back was completely unnecessary from a narrative perspective. There are two in the universe mechanics that could have him go from 10% to 120% easily. He has RTC to heal any physical wounds Gojo leaves on him and he could have pulled off a black flash to bring out 120 % of his potential and bring his curse energy output back up. So why does he need to be holding back unless he's just that much stronger than Gojo? If that's true then I can't look at the fight the same.
And yes I am a Gojo stand but I always knew he had to die for the narrative.
To be honest I thought Akutami would let Gojo win and loose the six eyes. That way Kenjaku would be the big bad he always wanted to be. I agree the hype was greater than the actual fight itself. I just wanted to know how it ends
Bt how can kenjaku who's isn't stated to be the strongest can kill and at least put up a fight against gojo and all of the students combined also kashimo ?? What about him gojo winning is the most dumbass thing to say 🗿
Great video. I haven't felt like on the I've been on the same page with the community lately...I really needed like 4× the dialog too. But I think sukuna wants his position back, and lying, cheating, and stealing doesn't matter. I think sukuna didn't like the odds of a "fair" fight. Killing without getting cursed in the process is key for longevity
30:11 the robin-sukana photoshop “I want to live” got me so well, I was not expecting that
It was a really great fight until the end all gege had to do was show us a few scenes of Sukuna attacking Gojo with a spacial slash instead of that abrupt and offscreen transition to Gojo dying
Unless u wanted to see Gojo's upper half falling then there was nothing to see. Go back to chapter 234 when Mahoraga did the same attack Sukuna did. All we see is the wheel turning and Gojo's arm gone. We don't see any slash hit Gojo or nothing. It's just gone. So even when it was on screen there was nothing to see.
@@Huh-oh3mx that’s wrong. Why are slashing attacks deemed as boring? So every sword fight in anime should be offscreened?
Should every Sukuna fight be offscreen now since he mostly does slashing attacks?
@@richjuin9504 yeah but does it matter? does it change anything about the ending of Gojo? It would literally be a panel of Gojo getting sliced - that's it, that's all you missed
I like the way Gege narrated it from Gojo's POV - he's winning then suddenly he's in a dreamworld (same as Jogo in that sense)
Gojo doesn't know what happened, he simply knows he's been defeated - you flashback to reality and you see Gojo's decimated body standing there
@@richjuin9504 Exactly. I don't get why some people are okay with that attack being offscreen. It was a KILLING BLOW. Don't you think we deserve to have some kind of warning before hand? Just a few panels would've been enough.
@@richjuin9504 Some things are better left to imagination. I'm positive that no matter what Gege did, no drawing of his could fully encapsulate the deathly killing blow Sukuna dealt at the very climax of the battle. Thus, instead of drawing that final blow, he drew everything _surrounding_ it, and allowed us to infer in the final detail.
Maybe there was a better way to handle it, idk I'm not a mangaka, but imo it definitely wasn't showing Gojo's body splitting in half. The instant cut to Gojo's dreamworld perfectly portrays how sudden and quick his death was, how one minute he's on a battlefield and the next its all over. I dont think any drawing could have provided the same result.
This concept of loneliness of the strongest seems to be inspired by Aizen’s sword being full of loneliness
33:42 THANK YOU HOLY SHIT
To me this fight wasn't bad (8/10 for me it's a good fight) but I wish there were more "I'm Him" type lines
you know the ones like you mentioned
it feels so strange how these two didn't really have that fight quote compared to other top series fights
it's a damn shame too cuz when you factor in the personality of both of them, there SHOULD be cinematic lines; those hard ass bars that would make Twitter lose their shit
but it just never happens! It's a shame
this fight just lacks the personality that JJK fights normally have; it's just two action figures smashing against each other
Good ass video my man
236 made the fight go from the two gods of the verse going all out in a battle to the death, to a kind of meh battle that had no real stakes, all it did was completely downplay the entire fight. You could argue that since Gojo doesn't actually know how Sukuna won his statement could be wrong, but until we see Sukuna's train of thought that's just headcanon. Anyway, you know the ending is bad when you kill your most beloved character off screen and leave both parties disappointed.
I'm just realizing that in Gojo's afterlife scene, all deceased people who had some type of connection to Gojo are there...except for Nobara...Could have been an oversight from Gege or it could be she survived?
I thought that was a really good breakdown/evaluation of the fight. I do think however the choice to use the "outside" character commentary was intended to limit inner dialogue, as to keep us the readers from fully understanding the strategies and mechanics at play. Whether that was the right move or not is a different thing, but I feel that Gege achieved what he set out to do with that particular choice. One of the things I think that most supports this, is the minimal utilization of Sukuna's dialogue to expound such things. Both verbally and internally. I also think Gege chose this route to leave different details somewhat ambiguous as to either allow us to draw our own conclusions, piece together the information he dropped here and there, or to allow a future exposition and perhaps even a combination of those all at one or two varying degrees. One such example would be Sukuna's ability to recover a burntout cursed technique. Through the dialogue given one could argue, this was a new found ability after observing Gojo. Likewise it can be argued (and I personally think this has a fair degree more evidence to support it) that Sukuna knew prior as he was able to explain in great depth how this ability worked and its limitations as well as potentially displaying it prior in Shibuya. Lastly Gege could have left it somewhat ambiguous to explore further in detail should he or another make a spinoff centered on the Heian Era.
Ultimately I thought your video was well done and covered the topic in a fair light.
This fight is going to be so hard in the anime cuz of the small reworks they’ll make for anime style storyboards which might make it a anime exclusive fight which I feel might be in line with Gege cuz this fight definitely had the foundation along with themes and technicality. But when it gets animated… Im already getting goosebumps thinking about, seeing Itadori and Kugisaki go ape shit on the death womb paintings with rock music playing in the back just gave me a new found will for fighting the good fight🤣😂
Personally, I think Mahito vs Yuji and Todo was the best fight followed by Maki vs the Zen’in Clan.
Maki's fight had me soooo hype.
@@_all_around_us I can’t wait to see that animated.
Gojo was hurt by Hollow Purple because its a BS OP attack skill. Isn’t it a creation destroying attack that erases everything? Sakuna called it lethal for even him and is Gojo's ultimate attack. Its not surprising it can erase even Infinity. Its the only move Sakuna had no real method of overcoming. If Gojo didn't need any prep time and could spam it Sakuna would have lost.
Sakuna's space slash. Maharaga first adapted to Infinity, then went further to come up with a way to use Cleave to get through Infinity. When Maharaga slashed Gojo with Cleave it showed a model of a technique Sakuna could use. So Sakuna didn't learn adaption, he learned the slashing technique to overcome Infinity.
All we know is it's imaginary mass. The way meat riders scale it is based on real life theories so trying to scale it that way isn't really valid. All we know is it's really strong and can kill people easily 😂
Since when cleave can target space?
It has never been foreshadowed to be able to effect space.
CT can't change their nature like that
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl All the same with RCTing curse energy, it is never implied to be possible yet here we are.
@@CurseOxuin reverse cursed energy only flips the technique on its head. By making it powerd by positive energy and not cursed energy.
That isn't what sukuna did. He made his CT target space out of nowhere
It had never been foreshadowed that it can effect space.
In fact Sukana slashes gets misscaluted all the time
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Yet they never foreshadow it no?
out of nowhere? have you forgotten the whole Mahoraga blueprint or something?it's a simple cleave, if Mahoraga can do it why do you think the King of Curses can't?
I can also say the same with cleave, it only flips the technique on its head, rather than targeting the enemy it's targeting the space instead so what's your point?
every jjk fan needs to watch this video, this was masterful. the one thing ill add is that Nanami's statement was the truth. While Gojo *does* care about saving people (he would not have expressed relief when ichiji told him all the humans exposed to UV had made a full recovery otherwise) and raising strong allies to change the corrupt jujutsu world, those are all things he does *because* he is a jujutsu sorcerer. Hes a *jujutsu sorcerer* because he enjoys it. Its for his own satisfaction. Nanami wasn't rejecting Gojo's ideals, he was just stating how he was different from everyone else.
Excellent content, pretty much have the same pov. Let’s Gege cook!
Great video, I think I agree with all your points for the most part. For me, the weekly fanfare made this fight 10x better than it actually is. Not to say that it was a bad fight, but it definitely isn’t the best fight in the series so far. I wish we got more dialogue between Gojo and Sukuna or even just a few more panels of what they were thinking as the fight went on. Regardless what ranking I give the fight as a whole, it’s undeniable the hype that’s created whenever you have two powerhouses clash no matter what series it is. I don’t think I’ve been as hype for a fight, reading weekly, since Meliodas vs Noon Escanor lmao but I also rarely keep up with ongoing series as they release.
The biggest nitpick I have with the fight is the conclusion. I’m a huge Gojo fan, but I wasn’t expecting him to destroy Sukuna by any means. I’m also a huge Sukuna fan so my problem definitely isn’t with the final outcome. I just think the final sequence was poorly done. Going from one page of “Gojo wins” to instant death / afterlife kinda ruined the end for me. I would rather it of been a few panels of dialogue, Sukuna makes a ending remark / small attack motion, and then go into the afterlife sequence. It would’ve sit better with me if that was the case. Hell, you could’ve even had Sukuna giving his explanation of adaptation first and then go about having the afterlife conversation. Just mix the panels around basically. Still just as sudden, unexpected, etc but it would just read better imo. Either way, I enjoyed the fight and am honestly more excited for the future of the series than I was before this fight even started.
E so called adaption doesn't make sense.
Since when can Sukana slashes change their nature like that?
From targeting objects and people based on their cursed energy to cutting space?
There is no foreshadowing for such ability.
8n fact there is only anti foreshadowing for it as sukuna constantly misculactes his slashes
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Yeah man idk what any of that has to do with my comment lmao. I was commenting on how the fight was laid out in the final part not if the attacks made any sense.
I personally don’t like the way Sukuna won, but “since when can Sukuna’s slashes change nature like that?” - since last chapter I guess. When was it said he can’t change the nature of his slashes? Why didn’t Sukuna full power cleave thru Gojo after the first domain clash? Who knows.
@@drbjrr I think the reason this space cutting slash cleaved through Gojo but the others didn’t is because it can cut through anything. If you’ve seen Black Clover it probably works like Dimension Slash we’re it can cut through anything no matter the durability. So when Sukuna slashed Gojos’s infinity it fallowed through and cut Gojo
I think during this fight declaring Gojo the winner at the end then offing him off screen was Gege's way of saying, "See this is the problem I created for myself, he is way too strong". He just wanted to showcase the character he made even though now with upgraded Sukuna he may have possibly written himself into a corner as now there is nothing Sukuna cannot cut. Granted Sukuna cannot recover as we see his arm hasn't recovered or his face. It was interesting also hearing Gojo thinking he might still lose even if ten shadows wasn't there (granted I don’t think he knows Sukuna compensated to be at full strength) while on the other hand Sukuna acknowledging Maharoga (Dad) as a magnificent role model for him to be able to learn a technique that was even incredible difficult for him to pull off. As a Gojo fan, I am glad Gojo was able to die with a smile on his face and Sukuna probably will see Gojo as the only person to ever match him. Thunder god ain’t on their levels
Lol nothing has even happened and you already talking shit about kashimo just let shit happen then type about it
@BrokenRonin my only issue is that each inhereted or innate technique, allows to manipulate certian concept : jogo fire , mahito soul , megumi shadow , gojo space , we were never previed to the fact that sukuna can somehow percieve or cut space or even further change the nature of his cursed energy like mahoraga.
Nah the commentary from the gangs side was nice for me since I liked learning and going over the power system and it was nice to see their reaction to the absurdity that is the two strongest
i dont think the cast didnt warn gojo about sukunas barrierless domain, BUT instead gojo didnt know how it would interact with hes own domain. there was only 1 way to find out since the concept of a barrierless domain is super rare and gojo had never encountered one. chapter 235 was TOP tier fiction like you said! the enchanting, the creative way gojo pulled of the last hollow purple, mahoraga being adapter to blue... PEAK! aaaaaand all it just be thrown out the window by chapter 236. the latest chapter makes it feel like everything we saw before had been forgotten. gojo talks about sukuna not going all out, but sukuna literally said that if gojo pulled of another hollow purple, it would be fatal... then we see him smiling on 236 like he just brushed off that hollow purple. SUKUNA also says that every curse technique has a spark, WHY didnt gojo see that spark specially with hes USELESS six eyes!??? why didnt he sense that final cleave?
Facts bro. I swear all of a Sudden the Godly perception of the six eyes became completely useless... he was obviously the strongest limitless user plus six eyes, AND on a black flash amp which gives you a deeper understanding of the core of curse energy... none of that came in to play 😂😂 very poor writing and basic willingness to ignore previous concepts mentioned in the story lmao
That is true. It realy rubs me off when gege is trying to imply that even withou 10 shadow, sukuna can still beat gojo, its his way to downplay gojo so the remaining characters will have a chance to surpass gojo for them to be able to beat sukuna.
@@vincenterskine3216 it’s wild!!! Those six eyes NEVER came into play! Like he saw megumis soul in sukuna in 1 panel?? Like no fucking shit he’s soul is in there dude! That ain’t a flex! I swear sukuna must have the 12 eyes cuz he was the one making all the analyses about curse energy
@@strforlife99 Yuta's gonna need the 24 eyes if he's going to overcome the Plot-amplified Cleave.
As for the cleave, he didnt dodge the one from Mahoraga so why would he able to dodge sukunas? From what I understand of the technique it seems that the space cut bypassed infinity by materializing within that given space/plane of existence, rather than traveling like a projectile. And so for him to be able to dodge a cut that simply appeared in hit torso, he would have needed future sight
I think people forget that just because someone loses a fight doesn't suddenly make them "worse" or "over hyped." They met someone "stronger" and/or more "talented" then them and they lost the battle of strength. But i say Gojo just won the battle of "will." He gave his students wisdom and strength to carry on his will after his death and we see that happening. We can only hope his students live on to teach the next generation after them.
If there is another generation
@@tejiriamrasa3258right?? The bad guys seem to really have upper hand here and now sukuna seems unstoppable with this new attack. I really don’t know what to expect going forward
@@bibitoastyeah unless Gojo miraculously revives himself.. the entire world is fucked.
@@bibitoastits now Sukuna, Kenjaku, and Uraume VS Kashimo, Hakari, Yuta, Maki, Yuji, and maybe Megumi. Sukuna and Kenjaku both seems like they could solo the main crew. Kenjaku 1v2 Yuki and Choso and walked it off. Even Yuta, Hakari, and Maki beating Kenjaku 3v1 is a stretch. How the hell are they going to beat Sukuna and Uraume. Uraume can and has already frozen Maki before. The dude is clearly strong af as well. Sukuna still has his entire CT reveal left to use as well.
I think the constant explanations from the spectators could work really well in the anime with fast cuts and quick comments to really get your adrenaline pumping.
Fire title 🗣‼️