What would England look like under different managers?
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England have a wealth of talent, and even reached the European Championship final earlier this year with Gareth Southgate in charge. Southgate has played with many different formations to cater for the players at his disposal and the teams they face.
But what would England look like if they were managed by someone else?
Joe Devine and Alex Stewart take a look.
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Graham Potter must be a genius, 12 players on the pitch, how come nobody thought of it before?
A lot of them would be converted into wingbacks at some point
This comment aged very well
I'd love to see another of these. JJ Bull with Guardiola, Klopp, Tuchel and Nagelsman.
Seconded!
🎶 Jurgen is stuck in the scattergram 🎶
I was surprised they didnt include Guardiola. Hes actually keen to manage a national side when he leaves City after next season. Theres no way the FA would hire Mourinho or Dyche. Potter is roo young and lacks experience with big name players, he needs a move to a Spurs/Everton or even Man U before hed be ready.
Germany with Klopp, Turchel and Nagelsmann
I would love to see a professional manager turned pundit in this Tifo environment
13:29 lmao the look on Joe's face when he knows he's got a smug, obscure tactical reference to impress Alex with 😂
Guy can tell us all about Hoffenheim's 2018 pendulum tactic but asks if Phil Foden is left footed. I love this game.
I think England need the encouraging leadership of Dr. Richter
England 2-1 Armenia
*Arms aloft*
"That is the best game I've ever seen you play"
Injections would be RIFE
@@dylanbrady9925 Harry Kane will never miss another game :D
Don't fear injury my lads! I shall give your injections myself! Anyway, the assistant coach will be explaining the tactics, well done for the last win by the way, carry on!
Forgets to register Harry Kane for the World Cup squad.
I still believe Graham Potter is the man who can utilise all of the resources and bring the team forward
and get loads of draws
He's not ready yet. Still make odd choices and subs.
Doubtful. Other than his links to Dan Ashworth, etc. He doesn't really fit the FA's current criteria
ehhhh
Lmao
Graham Potter for the 2024 Euros seems ideal. For Southgate to throw everything at his "final" tournament in Qatar next year, get the last hurrah of players like Walker, Trippier, Henderson, Kane (as guaranteed starters) while Potter's Brighton project peaks in the next 18 months, and then evolve from a position of strength rather than waiting for it all to fall apart. Could easily see Potter qualifying for the 2024 tournament with familiar players such as White and Lamptey breaking through while the likes of Rice, Foden, Phillips, Abraham, Harvey Elliott all step up.
PS: Look at Joe making a niche tactical reference! I am here for the Growth/inevitable metamorphosis into Dr Richter
Abraham? Are you okay
@@adamfuller99 Have you been watching Roma this season?
Also I’m talking about a tournament 3 years from now. Harry Kane will be in his 30s, as will Patrick Bamford. The #9 shirt will be a straight up race between Abraham and Dominic Calvert-Lewin, with Mason Greenwood likely partnering or playing out wide. In that context, does Abraham really seem such a strange shout?
@@adamfuller99 it really isnt a bad or a controversial option at all. Calm down.
@@harrymcmullen2227 no ones winning anything with Abraham as their main striker, there’s a reason Tuchel dropped him completely, he just doesn’t have the natural ability to be a top striker.
dont have a keeper that can pass though for that system
While Potter would work well at England, I think Potter should be managing at club level. He's too good to not be involved in the PL every weekend.
right? He didn’t even arrive where he belongs, why should he leave already only to work every 6-10 weeks?
i love the change to the conversational format - it helps me with keeping my attention on the video, i'd often just drift away on the monologue style vids.
4:15 Kane literally loved playing for him and respects him a lot? Part of the transfer saga even happening this summer was literally because José left...
Yeah, swear part of him issue was rumoured to be the sacking of Jose before the EFL Cup final because he considered it to reduce his chances of silverware
@@cass2239yeah and he publicly came out saying he was " Confused" by Jose's sacking and the timing of it before a huge chance for a trophy
they are clearly on the media agenda against jose.
Yeah I thought the same, I’m sure he gave a statement at the time in defence of Jose
My starting XI for England
Gk Jordan Pickford - proper keeper who can hoof it
Rb Trippier - has a killer ball and has the long throw trait on fifa 👀
Cb Slabhead
Cb Tyrone Mings - 6ft 4 and 6ft 5 together at cb
Lb Dan Burn - 6ft 7 left back, absolutely lethal🇬🇧
Rm James Ward Prowse - can play on the wing but really makes the team because of his set piece ability
Cm Declan Rice - solid cdm who gets the job done
Cm Hendo - another great midfield option. Captain for Liverpool and should be for his national team too.
Lm Dwight McNeil - gets to the byline and puts balls into the box. No messing around no nonsense 🏴💪🏻
St Harry Kane - tell him to forget being involved in build up play and dropping deep. Get him in the box and on the end of long balls and throws. If he drops too deep bring on Andy Carrol or Ashley Barnes
St Calvert Lewin - an absolute titan in the box.
And bring Sean Dychey in🍺
I'd love to see you guys talk about the wealth of young English talent now and the investments made by the FA in the early 2000's years ago when Sven Goran Eriksson was the England manager. It seems like he and others did a lot as advocates for revamping the youth system at the time that people didn't necessarily appreciate, but now England are reaping the rewards of. Or something similar with Jurgen klinsman and the usa youth development system and the number of American players in world class academies and squads.
I seem to remember those investments in English talent coming after the 2010 disaster in South Africa
@@Karma2Babylon all that stuff, like St. George's opening in 2012 or so, was started and fought for back in like 2001-2008 and Eriksson was a big part as the manager of the national team. It really took off and started to succeed after the 2010 WC but Eriksson and others were advocates during a decade of handwringing and lack of support. everything from giving direction to the academy system, national training methodologies, coaching standards, all of it driven by Howard Wilkinson, while having Eriksson as the top manager and helping give direction within the FA system for three WC cycles.
Liked the video, great assessment about Potter, I can see that happening, good job guys
Amazing content, love it
Keep up the great work lads
Graham potter is great but i would really be excited with sean dyche as well. Remember burnley finished 8th and played flowing football. Hard for dyche to carryon with the squad he had, but i know he is great as well.
Southgate is clearly good at man-management and keeping team spirits high, but Potter can do that AND is tactically intelligent
You ignored Saka when talking about RW with high work rate for Mou and LM for Dyche, the perfect player for those roles.
1:44 that reaction to 3 at the back😂😂
“Is Phil Foden left footed?”
It’s confirmed Joe does NOT watch football😭☑️.
nor play fifa
The Mourinho system would probably win tournaments with those players.
Mourinho picked his england eleven during to euros or before the euros I can’t remember the exect time but I do remember he said grealish and kane are untouchable so if mourinho we are picking this team for mourinho grealish has to be playing.
Grealish and Phillip will start ahead of Rice and Mount if it were Mourihou. His team doesn't press high so Mount pressing won't be useful.
kane would definitely be happy to see jose tbh, he probably had his best spell under him
It’s started already Southgate has made a great start . His real success is integrating the England youth teams to line up with the England squad. International managers not the same as club management . Your success relies on the good will of clubs and players. Southgate’s tactical layout not bad but if he has a fault he leaves it to late to bring on Subs who could change a game.
Do you think there's any chance Guardiola might take it? It's a curveball, but thinking about how closely this crop of players - like Grealish, Foden, Saka, Mount, Smith-Rowe, Sancho, Stones, White, Ramsdale and Alexander-Arnold to name a few - fit his style I wonder if he might be tempted. Plus his ambition to coach an international team and the fact that he's already in the country.
I will be honest if Guardiola gets the England job
It will be terrifying to face them
That will also ensure Foden is the centrepiece of this team which everyone is begging for
And pep gauruntees trophies
I'm not sure Guardiola would be able to get a tune out of England the way he does for Man City. Guardiola's methods take a while to take hold, it took a full season for City to play like a title-winning team, plus a lot of money spent on players. That time to coach and option to bring better players isn't available for a national team manager.
Then there's the fact that in the CL he hasn't succeeded yet, and the CL is much more like a WC or Euros than the PL is. He's often gone out to relatively unfancied teams.
Should have included Wenger in this 👌👌
“Hypothetical fun” as opposed to actual fun
I just love Dyche so much, especially because you know there's basically no chance of Burnley going down regardless of how bad their start is
Oops
Lol
decided to watch this today and joes mentioning of greenwood shook me a little
Any manager that doesn’t play mount gets my vote.
Would a video on the difference between domestic football and international football be good?
Surely Sean Dyche would play Ward Prowse / Trent somewhere?
For set pieces, right
You guys did Philips dirty
Why would Kane not want to see Mourinho? Had his best season last season and was devastated when he left.
Graham Potter is a great manager, but i dont see him being a national coach. Maybe further in the future, but his strengths lies elsewhere. Building relations (man management?), and developing players. Also getting a team able to change play style and structure between games and during games.
Not ideal for a national team maybe?
I picked up the Hoffenheim likeness when I saw that double 8/10 pairing
Under Klopp, England would be World Champions.
Best suited playing style and one of the best motivators.
Pope
TAA - Stones - White - Chilwell
Phillips - Rice - Henderson
Sancho - Kane - Sterling
---------
- Sancho & Sterling lead a high press
- Kane operating as a false 9
- Phillips & Henderson are the box-to-box midfielders
- Rice is the defensive shield in the middle
- TAA & Chilwell are the attacking wingbacks putting in balls for Kane.
- White & Stones are skilled enough to initiate possession from the back
Klopp's methods take a long time to take hold, he joined Liverpool in 2015, and they were very inconsistent that season. They improved in 2016-17, but still inconsistent and not close to the top teams in the country. Then after some good buys and a lot of time and defeats to learn from, they became a top team. International management doesn't afford managers that time to coach very intensive attacking patterns, nor the ability to buy players if a position is lacking.
Which isn't to say that Klopp couldn't get England playing better, but it's not clear cut, and given that better teams than England don't always perform to their level it's a stretch to say they'd definitely win the WC. There are other good teams, and WC-winning teams often need luck or at least an absence of back luck to win.
With Abraham up top and Saka as LWB for Potter, thats a scary team!
How they just ignoring Kalvin Phillips in all of these teams when he’s started nearly every game for England in the past year 😂
Tbf that’s because Hendo was injured before the tournament.
Phillips performed brilliantly but Hendo is still a class above
@@Jynz0 Southgate had been picking Phillips over Henderson all year long mate, and continues to do so now.
overated
Best thumbnail
In 2024 I think England will be unstoppable with their young talent coming so good, bellingham rice mount james, foden, sancho, gallagher etc.
Come on, even Jose wouldn't leave the Yorkshire Pirlo out...
probably the first time in history john stones has been described as "too jazzy"
The disrespect to Phillips and Kane in this video
Mad innit
@11:40 He sounds like Alan Partridge in Alan Partridge’s World Cup Count Down to ‘94…. with Alan Partridge
You're a wizard, Graham
Why would you say Kane wouldn’t be happy that Mourinho is back!?
Its the bias against Mourinho by the British that says he is toxic
This thumbnail is god tier
Fun fact
Mourinho was just about to take the england job after Chelsea's first sacking. England was a disaster. They didn't even qualify for the euros 2008 and they needed a change. It was about to be announced and his wife changed his mind saying he was way too young for that.
I actually always said that England would most likely win a world cup under Jose. It's a one month mission with just 7 games to win or draw depending on the situation and its based on motivation even more so than club football. It's literally made for him
And there's like three other top managers doing it so you don't have to face Klopp or Pep or Tuchel
@@otto_jk Right and international football is more defensive than club football ( even though like said in the video. Mourinho actually plays attacking football at Roma)
true that
@@otto_jk Klipp , and Pep aren't good enough on one off games
Tuchel is close but still no Mou
If Potter can play 12 men then I think we need him in ASAP
Loved sean dyche one
I love how quickly people clamour to bag Southgate and say how so and so would be better when England hadn't threatened to win anything for decades under multiple great managers and were becoming an embarrassment under some big names 🙄
Southgate is underrated and over-hated
For me the worst one is 'bring Wenger in'. Yeah, because hiring a man who was 16 years of age when England won the world cup is exactly what our young squad needs.
@@fishyfish6510 So true. Having researched the history I think it is because most people can only see the tip of the iceberg. They know something has changed but I can't work out what. And it is human nature to underestimate things we don't really understand as they are looking at it at surface level
What app do they use for the tactics board?
Please do klopp, pep and tuchel versions so we can dream
I'd like to see something on where Potter could go in Europe to break into the elite. As he's probably not going to get a chance at Spurs for another 18 months and there arent many clubs higher who would take him yet or lower that he would go to in the PL
We saw what you did in the thumbnail with 'Engerland' 🤣🤣
Rogue shout but how about Ian Holloway with his attacking approach?
I always wonder what Mourinho could do with England post 2002 WC
. Kane
Foden - Mount - Greenwood
Rice - Bellingham
Chilwell - Tomori - Stones - James
Ramsdale
“Who’s a left footer who can play on the wing ? And is able to put crosses in ? “ …..” Mason Greenwood 💀😭”
Saka : am I a joke to you ?
Tomori's england best defender
Has there ever been a more hipster football comment than 'this reminds me of Hoffenheim 2018'?
How have you managed to leave Saka out of the entire squad?
jose has picked an england squad, he mentioned it on a talksport podcast before the euros
it was
kane
grealish mount foden
rice phillips
chilwell maguire stones walker
henderson
probably would have chosen henderson over phillips, but he chose this squad when henderson was out injured(chose mings over maguire too but said that it was because maguire was injured)
Mourinho would play Bellingham and Grealish, he spoke highly of them during the Euros.
I wish I had the facility to be more Keanu
Just don't have the cheekbones
I genuinely don't know why when Southgate goes, the FA invite a selection of managers to take 1 friendly n show what they can do. Say the 3-5 friendlies, showing 3-5 potential managers
Horrible idea . It's ages to implement a proper playing style and they've already got limited time on international duty. Can't glean anything off a friendly
I doubt Mourinho would bench Grealish.
Also, Foden is left footed.
Guardiola is due to leave City after next season. He has stated on numerous occasions that he would like to manage a national side. As a proud Catalonian, maybe Spain may not be the obvious choice, Italy dont really play "Guardiola-ball" and Germany already have a top manager. Pep has brought through or developed a significant number of Englands first XI (including Stones, Walker and most importantly Foden). Assuming France are too proud to hire a Spaniard and Belgium cant afford him surely the FA need to go all out to get him in after the World Cup?
Worth adding, this isnt a dig at Southgate, who I think has transformed the England setup, but i think two world cups and a Euros is a fair cycle and hopefully he could then end on a high before handing over to Pep to take the team forward.
Potter is too young to be a national manager and doesnt have the experience managing top players.
potter would be great since hed probably be only one to try taa at midfield, would be revolutionary
Video on Ralph ragnick tactics
I dont think Mason Greenwood is going to play in a Sean Dyche England team... What a difference a few months makes!
I'd have subbed out Mourinho for Eddie Howe, if I was making this video. More interesting and realistic option.
Does anyone know what software they use ?
wenger should be england manger for next world cup tbh ..allot of things can be said for that man but he has a habit of bringing out the best of attacking players sanchez ,van persie,nasri,hleb to
name a few players tht wer diffrent quality when playing under wenger plus he knows english football and allot of england sytaff
Now do Southgate in a english club
Pep Guardiola would have been interesting
He wants Spain or Brazil only.
I think Wenger would be fun though
@@Azza.10 I’m not so sure Pep would manage Spain with his links to Catalonia. Would be interesting to see him in an international setup though.
Bit of a reach that one 😂
he would fail hard at international level
he is a coach and less of a manager.
if he can't be with you all the time he is ineffective
@@Matthew20- he already said in an interview with Gary Lineker that he'd like to if they'll allow him
One thing we seem to be negating here is the fact that these managers would only be getting one or two sessions in per training camp, when it comes to working on tactics. It’s why a Mourinho would work better than a Potter. You need experience, and someone who can implement a relatively simple system, fairly quickly. International football is not the place to go hipster with your choices.
Southgate works because he knows these players inside and out, from the youth system. A manager coming in would take almost a full calendar year to understand these players, and begin to implement a system that works consistently.
The memes, the memes, the memes...
(à la Marlon Brando in Apocalypse now)
Harry Kane loves Mourinho
Whoever the FA picks next, I sure hope they make him wear one of them dope bucket hats
Could you do videos about Brazil's national team?
I wonder if Tifo and FD watch each other’s videos
7:14 "Is Foden left-footed?" Come on, man...
Banga
Mourinho is tactically the most dynamic among all other managers.
Dynamic? Not so sure. Shrewd? Definitely.
@@KindredBrujah have you even seen Mourinho games , like ever
the park tne bus narrative is bs
Not in a million years Mourinho is the worst manager featured in this video by far, completely past it potter has far more dynamism in every phase of play as does dyche
Potter is the man
Mourinho at a national team would trump the (in)famous Löw scratch'n'sniff within minuts of being announced
WHERE CAN I GET THAT T-SHIRT??
What about Brucie? Howe?
you can tell who the rightful england manager is by checking underneath their hats. if they have a marmalade sandwich like paddington bear, then they should get the job.
What would Paddington bear's England would look like I wonder? 🤔
@@FunkyGhostHD dunno, but if paddington's managing a team, they play atletico madrid and diego simeone is the villain.
No mention at all of saka and smith-rowe in the entire video.
G'day Cobbers!
Dyche buys players to fit his system at Burnley, so the 'he plays with the players he has at his disposal' is nonsense. He has been at Burnley for 9 years and bought 152 players (including loans). That's plenty of time to buy a change of style. If he was England boss, it'd be knock it long, or get to the byline and cross it in...... no thanks......That's the Burnley way!
nah nah he's onto something, if England played w 12 men they might finally start winning
Graham Potter would be the right man for the job.
5:57 oof sweden
Get Dychey in. Time for some proper English football🇬🇧🏴🍺
Graham potter would be a good manager for England imo
Jose mourinho chose his England lineup for the euros for talksport
His punditry was actually amazing last summer. He predicted 80% of what happened
Mou would be a classic tbh (or won't )