Is Sean Dyche the Most Underrated Manager in the Premier League?
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Sean Dyche has just signed a new contract at Burnley, keeping him at Turf Moor for another 4 years. Why would Burnley want to get rid of him? He’s one of the best managers in the Premier League, after all, right?
JJ Bull explains why the Burnley manager is often overlooked, and how he has managed to keep a club with a minuscule budget and limited resources in the Premier League for six straight seasons.
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I think teams like Burnley are what make the premier league interesting. If you want to be considered the best, you need to be able to beat every 'type' of team. Every sport needs something like that.
If everyone played the same way football would be boring.
While I do love the promotion and relegation system (it’s pure sport!) the American model of sport does lead to more creation of teams like burnley and also allows them to rise (ie the Tampa bay American football team going from last in their division to winning it all this previous year). I think there most be some middle perfect ground. Tho I respect Europeans hating Americans (we kinda suck… ok really suck). But I love the nfl for the chaos it produces. I love the premier league too but the same 4 teams fighting year over year does get old. When I worked in London I worked with a man from Wolverhampton, he made sure I went to his family home and went to a match. It was such a fun experience. I’ve been a fan since and always will be, but I know deep down that a team like wolves won’t ever compete for a league. But anyway it’s hi ho Wolverhampton!
@@idkjustchangingmyname7343 I love the NFL as brit (and fellow wolves fan), but it will never work as a model for football (soccer) in europe just because of how there's a draft in the NFL where the best young players tend to go to the worse teams to make them better eventually, unless you're the Jets. Football clubs in europe scout and sign kids from the age of 6 so the best clubs tend to always secure the best talent. There has been some talk on introducing a cap on salaries which could lead to a more even competition but I think the big clubs will always be elite which does kind of get old I agree.
@@odysseus1660 agreed on all your points. People in America wonder why we suck at soccer (please forgive me but I’m gonna use it cause it’ll make my comment less confusing) but it’s because here it’s pay to play. When I was a kid I was blessed enough to play youth soccer and American football but that’s because my family could afford it. This pay to play is especially true for soccer. So many can’t afford the exorbitant fees youth teams demand and because there is no club funded youth system get left behind.
My point about European soccer (sorry I know it’s wrong again) is if there was a way to incorporate a draftish system and keep promotion and relegation that’d be awesome. Maybe something like a promoted team gets to choose a certain player of a winning team. Ok that’s a bad idea. Idk. (I am not smart enough to come up with it). Something for a little more parity without losing the incredible spirit that draws us to the game. It’s a hard balance to strike. In the US you def still have dominant football teams too. The packers, saints, patriots, chiefs, Seahawks have made the playoffs for the last 5 years but that list does shift (unless you’re the jets then you just stink.) I hope you have a good day and let’s hope wolves can figure out how to stop playing just exciting football but also winning football.
@@odysseus1660 also when I was working in the U.K. I was always shocked by how much love there was for the NFL it’s awesome to see how we can all love each other’s sports
Burnley players have a different technique, not a worse one.
They can chest a 70 yard ball but can't chip the keeper 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂facts
Facts 😂😂. I could have sworn that I've seen chris wood control an 80 yard goal kick over his shoulder, go through on goal and proceed to smash it into the side netting 💀
@@eljee102 lol I never saw this before but I believe u man
If they go down this year, it will be a while until we see them again in PL. 🤣🤣
@@dajag6846 Great point actually 👍...All because they have one of if not the oldest squads at the moment in world football and the Championship is often underrated in terms of intensity too...But it's gonna be hard on the other hand for them to go down because Sean Dyche just extended his contract inking another like 5 years and trust, Sean is a master in long term planning or 'project' if u like and am sure he's got a solid plan of seeing out the squad's transition even under limited circumstances resource-wise...
he took burnley to the europa league ffs, everyone was bigging up nuno for taking wovles there
Isnt it the qualifications for the Europa league
Everyone bigs up Nuno because he' s done that with multiple clubs and actually taken them to the competition proper. Dyche got Burnley to the qualifying rounds once and they immediately got chucked out by a weak greek team.
@@branthall1787 I wouldn't exactly call Olympiacos a weak Greek team... They are Champions League regulars and have beaten the likes of Man United and Dortmund.
@@eaglestrike6408 Olympiacos were a half decent team 16 years ago
Not now. Beating disorganised fallen giants hardly constitutes being a great team. Are Huddersfield a top team because they beat United? Are Darmstadt a top team because they beat Dortmund?
Also, I have to point out, Roy Hodgson took Fulham to a Europa League final on a budget almost definitely the same if not smaller than Burnleys, yet you don't see people talking about how underrated Roy is.
Teams have to make a separate set of tactics to beat Burnley, tells a lot about Dyche as a manager and Burnley as a team
True it takes solid planning going against Burnley even knowing how they gonna setup
It tells you they are one dimensional and predictable. Let's not forget they finish in the bottom third nearly every season so most teams work them out.
@@PL7802 Their goal is to stay up, which they do every season under very little investment. That is rather impressive.
@@StimulatingMC they don't stay up every season. Don't you remember he got them relegated. More mythology.
@@firstnamesurname5376 if pointing out they nearly always finish in the bottom third and their style is predictable is 'slander'.... I'm just pointing out he's not underrated, he's bang average as his league position proves.
Please do a video "Why Farke's Norwich do so bad in EPL?".
Someone was telling me that their business model as a club is basically to relegated and recieve parachute payments, get promoted again, rinse and repeat.
@@scottbaron That's horrific to hear. 😲😲
@@scottbaron Just because that's what happens doesn't mean it's a business plan. They don't want to get relegated they just do.
@@scottbaron they would get more money by simply staying up
I don't think Norwich care..as long as the get promoted every season
Great to see a manager of a relatively small team getting credit. I'd love to see a similar video about Graham Potter, his Brighton side has been brilliant. A video about Marcelino & Bordalas would be welcome as well, I feel like they're really underrated because they're not from the Premier League.
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yk what im talking bout
@@Tensaroxx irish guy
Graham Potter is not underrated. He’s widely considered one of the best English managers.
@@pyroVoid yea he isnt underrated but it would be cool to see an explanation video of his thought process and tactics
@@pyroVoid Didn't say Graham Potter is underrated, that part was for the Spanish coaches
Always respect Sean Dyche for the work he has done with Burnley.
The classic no-nonsense 442. If Dyche has the budget, he could have done a Simeone
Not fair to say look at Simeone spending during his first couple seasons and when he won the leauge. He spent next to nothing. Also it’s a very different skill set keeping a team in the premier leauge on a small budget by playing defensively and leading a team to winning the title with prime Barca and Madrid teams by playing ruthlessly effective counter attacking football. Not a fair comparison.
@@homoerectus3355 I agree. What Simeone did was really special
@@homoerectus3355 Last season was absolutely not prime Barca and Real Madrid
@@Lukesummers94 I’m not talking about last season I’m talking about when Atletico won the leauge in 2013/14
@@homoerectus3355 although Athleti, along with Spanish Clubs in general do have access to a lot of South Americans - both in terms of cost, the numbers allowed to play in a team, the language/culture - so you might see they don't spend a lot, but they have other non-financial advantages in how they recruit
As a Blackburn Rovers fan, it pisses me off how good this guy is at his job
As a Burnley fan, my name causes me great pain.
@@THEMattyBlackburn Lol
Daily reminder that jack Walker is dead
*"Its always Bloody Burnley"*
Goldbridge🤣🤣
I think the signing of Maxwell Cornet is an interesting one. A slightly different sort of player, will be intriguing to see how he gets on at Burnley!
He look great off the bench against Arsenal.
I think Cornet is a really underrated player who would have been a decent signing for an Everton or Tottenham, so I reckon he'll be good for Burnley.
Can't wait for chants of 'Just one Maxwell Corneto'
I feel like it's in a position they don't need, as McNeil is their best creative player and he's the same position. He may play on the other wing though.
he made great start with Rochdale , i know Rochdale not premier but you have credit them for good game but Cornet looks the business
@@sukhdevr3489 Cornet will offer speed and pace down one side of the pitch, while McNeil will offer creativity and try to pick out Barnes or Wood on the other
I don't think he's underrated at all, I think there's a general appreciation of how good a job he does with Burnley.
Definitely, i dont meet too many people who dont appreciate what hes done.
Burnley are low key some of the best vertical passers in the league. I feel like their pass accuracy on the break is unusually high. Love those rough bastards
Would love to se a video on Burnley's finances. They have been in the EPL for years and not spent much, have low wages and running costs (i think) so by my guesstimations they should be one of thee most cash rich clubs in world football?
We should've been, until the new owners took loans out against the club to actually purchase the club and ruined that, although I can't slag them off too much with the amount it looks like they're going to invest in staff, players and facilities tbf
@@indicisivellama4834 Thanks for the reply. I really have no idea whats went on tbh. Dyce is awesome! Gl for this season amigo.
I would like to see a scattergram video for managers like win percentage / per dollar - in wages etc.
Love the content guys, always insightful.
You guys have been pumping out a lot though, please make sure you guys aren't burning yourselves out
11:50 Stopping players going through them by threatening to go through them lmao
(Not a fan) and what I love more about their style is how many teams after even just a season will adapt and figure it out a team’s tactics like Sheffield utd :’( but burnley holds up since it’s just simple stuff that is a pain in the buns to crack
The quote should become "But can they do it on a cold rainy night in Burnley"
Liked the analysis, I wonder if he is a 'budget early days D. Simeone' and how the two would look analysed against each other
12:47 aged like milk! Great video, looking forward to see what he does with a new challenge now!
I think it's important to point out that Dyche is trying to sign players with more flair an example being Cornet. Pretty sure they've only just got new owners so January/next season could be interesting if he's given a bit of a budget to play with
What would be interesting to me is seeing how they operated to win promotion. Still style is great for survival, but obviously they’ve grown (shrunk?) into this style to survive EPL. That mentality would not work if you need 80+ points in Championship
Keep those videos going, JJ!
His game has an identity and with new rules in league they have some serious advantage with the physical aspects and head it to survive.
What are the advantages you are talking about?
Getting away with breaking legs, perchance.
@@rayravernous4376 That would actually be an interesting stat injuries against per season, I don't remember the last serious injury caused by a Burnley player for all the kicking they get for being 'overly physical'
@@XzMattyxZ I agree with what you said because they do get physical but they do it in a way that does not injury anyone
@@XzMattyxZ that, would be leeds instead
dyche is so so underatd, unfairly so, just because he plays unfasionable football. one of my favourite managers in the league
yeah i do agree but its hard to watch them play and not be bored. Underrated is unfair based on (un)attractiveness, but we can correctly say it's boring football. Whether that's just part and parcel of trying to punch above your weight (lets be honest) or not, it is still a hard watch
@@chris94kennedy All simply because u know what to expect man...U will see duels that you would have witnessed in all other matches on a matchday in a single Burnley game plus the wing play and doggied defending not forgeting headers and scrappy goals...If lucky enough u might witness piledrivers because they attempt long range shots alot
Dreadful to watch. Has Ashley Barnes got the dirt on him. It can be the only reason he plays him every week.
@@PL7802 LOL
Please do a showcase on Ivan Toney and Brentford 🙏🏽 They’ve been playing so well!
No mention of Cornet? Cornet was Burnleys big get this transfer season and looked amazing against Arsenal. He looks like he’ll be play a very similar roll to McNeil and will create even more chances for Burnley in the box. Also Jay Rodriguez bagged 4 last night in the EFL cup!
cornet was showing pretty good start last night
Thanks for the video
Perfect time for me to get recommended this video to watch again
Dyche has done an amazing job with the resources he has been given. Terrific manager.
Going be super manager for everton mark my words
Great vid
That's a striking Aberdeen kit!
I noticed this week's podcast was on Spotify but not on Tifo IRL, how come?
Dyche is doing a great job but the most underrated for me would be Graham Potter over at Brighton.
He's not underrated everyone says he's really good
Brighton has a bigger budget than Burnley and Brunley have been in the PL for longer.
@@bowbow1034 give potter arsenal or manchester united.
And he will turn them into tuchel'a Chelsea, he is basically a budget bielsa that can be reasoned.
@@michaeldascrubtarling1610 exept for 80% of football fans who call him an xG merchant, because they dont understand statistics or probability lol
@@r3zaful or he can he the next Roberto Martinez. And stop comparing Tuchel to Potter or even Bielsa for that matter. Tuchel wins things, just cause your team is playing free flowing attacking football doesnot make you a great manager. You need to do a thing called defending to grind out results and Tuchel does it. Also you might say Pep but Pep in all his free flowing football never Comprimises his teams defensive shape.
I have concluded that Dyche may or may not be the most underrated manager in the PL
So does the Cornet signing make a bit of sense as he's fast and can run the wide channel in order to run down long balls and then launch crosses into the box? Or will expansive forward runs from Cornet throw their tight 4-4-2 formation out the window?
Will I hope it for running down long balls to cross it into Wood
Wooow, did we improve on production values? Fancy lights and all. Good job!
Thanks for the interesting video! What would he do at a much bigger club with more money and talent?
I don't think it would work. His style is based on the sorts of hard working players his budget affords him. I can't see Arsenal's players for example working under such a strict tactical framework.
But if they get relegated this year, Burnley won’t get promoted for a while with that sort of play.
We got relegated in 2015, and came straight back up as Champions. The promotion before that was 2nd place, so yeah I think Sean Dyche can get us out of the Championship IF we go down.
Plus I love how everybody thinks we just hoof it long, which is far from the truth. We do get it down and play, but we are not daft like your Norwich or Fulham's etc. People just judge us by 10 minutes of highlights most of the time.
@@barkermush7147 definitely didn’t know that. Sorry.
Just hate to face Burnley, and stoke.
@@dajag6846 lol, no problem.
yes, definitely the most underrated. Probably he likes it that way, stay under the media radar. why is the team doing well? Well, for starters, the goalie is a Pope. why look to luck or skill when there's pope around? any more questions? ?
'under the media radar'? He does more interviews than Jonathan Ross. He's always promoting himself and what a great job he's done with no money.
The team is doing well? They haven't won a home game since January.
Are you drunk?
Loving the Aberdeen away top
Please where do you get your stats?
How would this look like in FUT (tactics/plyr instructions)?
Seeing how often I see videos asking this, I don't think it's possible.
I feel like at the beginning of every season Burnley are never in the discussion for relegation
That kit - shirt is fire 🔥😎🍀
Gotta respect the hustle. Even if the style's not pretty, it works.
...... Moment of silence......
He got sacked today
LEGENDS 🔥🔥🔥
Mark Goldbridge certainly doesn't underestimate Sean Dyche XD
Great video, with some really solid tactical analysis. The ending aged like milk.
As a United supporter, I always go into matches against Burnley with the fear that Sean Dyche will produce an upset
Hi Tifo, could you guys do a video on why we no longer have players who drive through the defences like Hazard and Messi now all I see are players who pass backward and sideways there have no courage to carry the ball and draw a challenge or give an assist because Hazard used to take the ball from the midfield and take on defenders.
Thanks.
probably because the sport is evolving as we know and managers play to win and make players do the same
they play the game to win and not to entertain. so they play far more safer football. a very conservative approach in order to keep possession. and also It is hard to find the Hazards and the ronaldinhos and messis all the time
“He’s not going anywhere “ whoops 😬
Great to see another analysis for new Burnley under Vincent next season
Considering he has worked his way up the leagues to manage in the Premier League (unlike Arteta) he has done VERY well with his lack of resources.
I know people will moan at his style, but Nuno and Rafa play the same defensive football and still got big jobs.
I actually think if Dyche was European he would have got a bigger job by now.
Arteta, Pochettinho, Nuno and Marco Silva all got bigger clubs despite NOT achieving anything more than what Dyche has.
Pochettino got Spurs to CL final he has achieved more than the other managers u mentioned
Also Sean dyche is European
@@arunsd2108
My point was that Pochettinho got a "big move" to Spurs despite only finishing mid table with Southampton.
Dyche has done better than mid table with Burnley and never got a "big move".
By "European", I mean any nationality other than English.
Tbf marcos silva broke European records with olympiakos before he came to the PL
He's bang average. He won't get a bigger job because he's done nothing. Can you think of one top half club in any top European league that would want to play like that. Naff all to do with him not being European... What ever dog whistle that is.
The biggest compliment I can give Sean Dyche is that if it were possible for teams to temporarily loan their players to whoever was playing Burnley that week, to make sure they were relegated and hopefully lose every game, every team and every fan base would sign up for it in a heart beat
And so would all the TV providers because my god Burnley are horrible to watch
He is. By Far. Stats should prove that but you don't need them.
Make a video about Graham Potter and Brighton.
By the way Ben Gibson is no longer with Burnley when Burnley loan Gibson to Norwich last season it was a loan to buy if Norwich make it to the PL from the Championship which they did
Even I thought “Dyche is going nowhere” 🥺
I think Dyche gets full props for what he's done. No matter what happens Burnley stay up. I think Potter is the most underrated manager in the league because he plays fantastic football with average players and brings about similar results to Dyche. I could see Potter, with that style of play, managing one of the big six whereas Dyche (no matter how much we respect him) will always be limited by his style of play. It's called the Big Sam effect.
Upset and hurt that the jersey I thought was a Rosario Central one is actually an Aberdeen one.
Kyle, Jay, Danny, Andre, .....they had some proper striker's, the current duo not bad at all
Who’s here after the potential Everton appointment
I'm here after he managed to beat arsenal 😂
Burnley remind me of the service academies in college football. They play a system which many people consider to be a dinosaur but they still seem to make it work at times.
DycheBall finally getting some love.
maxwel cornet is a little wild card Burnely just purchased. Think he will be a good signing for them
That thumbnail is so previous 😱
Yes. Absolutely
Mark Goldbridge: (In Darth Vader voice) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
As his former gaffer would say "he's a good lad, could have been better" - Brian Clough.
0:59 😢
they have very good players like pope and wood
King Gravel-Eater is back bb!
Makes Steve Bruce look stupid even though they have a similar budget to Burnley.
Could you please do a video on Newcastle United’s tactical problems and whether they are the favourites to get relegated?
Love your videos btw!
Been saying this for years!
Dyche Dynasty
"He's not going anywhere" Oof. Hopefully he winds up at a better place now that Burnley's incompetent ownership cut him loose.
I think Steve Bruce is the most underrated manager. Only because everyone thinks he’s useless and he keeps Newcastle in the PL while I think to an extent people think Dyche is the only person keeping Burnley in the PL.
i would personally disagree, Bruce has been able to acquire some really good players in the past couple years (Wilson, Saint-Max etc) which have helped him tremendously when his tactics fail. I also remember him massively underperforming at villa (which i guess isn't relevant as a PL coach. I think Dyche is the glue keeping Burnley up moreso then Bruce and NCFC - but that's IMO
@@tomwalsh7796 yeah I’m not saying he’s good but I think people think he’s more useless than he actually is. The opinion of him is so low that he is by default underrated even if he wins one game. I think, like you say, Dyche is the glue of Burnley and I think this view is around that it’s harder for him to be underrated.
Bruce last year out performrd:
Nuno
Hodgson
Hassanhutl
Potter
Dyche
Allardyce
Parker
Wilder.
I'm not sure people think he's useless. Just that he plays really boring football with the players he's got.
I once saw him shirtless at a virgin active gym in Northampton
Yes
Purple hair in tribute to Burnley too. Nice detail.
I really enjoy watching Burnley tbh, the thing I really like about football is different types of approach and would hate if everyone played the same way…
This idea of playing the “right” way has always annoyed me
I like and value Sean Dyche a lot, not necesarily his style of football. One thing I do not understand is why he plays Barnes or Vydra, both limited players and ineffective in front of goal ahead of Rodriguez.
Yes he is
Even though it can be pretty ugly I appreciate the physical style they play
Dyche could be capable of more if he gets his shot in another Prem team. But now, unfortunately for him, he has become synonymous with Burnley and this brand of football. I don’t know if anyone would give him a chance.
He's the most pragmatic one, because he's been collecting towering monsters like Mourinho did and using Benitez's Crouchie tactic to bully his opponents in aerial duels
Towering monsters? Have you seen Ben Mee? Not a single one of those defenders are especially big, Tarkowski is only 6’1.
Chris Wood is the only naturally physically big player. The rest have just been coached to use what they have well.
rip burnley's premier league adventure, 2014-2022.
I rate Graham Potter more
JJ bull looks like an incredibly tired James McAvoy
Didn't burnley sign cornet for 13m?
yea but not much other than that
Gotta love incompetent ownership :/
In Dyche we trust. UTC.
"It's up to you to decide" - no it bloody isn't, you're the experts, you're supposed to TELL me! That's why I clicked the fucking video! Anyway much love, keep it coming. Amazing to watch Tifo grow over the years.
This channel’s going to be a million subs.
(Some preset formation layouts would be good so you could have some setups ready to go during the chat when moving from point to point)
One of my favourite teams to watch.
Mon the Dons !