How the U.S. and China Compete in Planes, EVs, Chips and More | WSJ U.S. vs. China
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- How do the U.S. and China stack up in some of the most competitive global industries?
From jets and EVs to supercomputers and space telescopes, WSJ talked to different industry and technology experts about how the two countries match up in designs, engineering and strategy.
0:00 Aviation: Comac vs. Boeing
7:05 EVs: Tesla vs. BYD
15:08 Chips: Nvidia vs. Biren
22:45 Sneakers: Nike vs. Anta
30:29 EV batteries
38:13 Supercomputers: Frontier vs. Tianhe-3
44:46 High-speed rail
50:17 Metaverse
55:35 Space-tourism rockets: Blue Origin vs. CAS Space
1:01:57 Space telescopes: Roman vs. Xuntian
U.S. vs. China
This original video series explores the rivalry between the two superpowers’ competing efforts to develop the technologies that are reshaping our world.
#China #US #WSJ
-China focused on self development, technologies, space exploration
-USA focused on China
They re so anxious and hysterical
it reminds me of how the Us freaked out about a spy balloon and a potential chinese presence in cuba. but thinks it’s normal to have a chain of military bases and tens of thousand of troops along the islands, nations, and archipelago’s off the chinese coast
So the spy balloon was sent by Xitler's mother and not him.!?
Lol wrong China focused on bullying on small countries such as Taiwan and Philippines stop spreading propaganda
China is so focused on self-development that thousands and thousands of Chinese nationals are fleeing China and crossing illegally into the USA southern border everyday.
Video never mentions that Tesla buys the LFP blade battery from BYD for some of the models in china. Very big development as it shows BYD is still a huge supplier for others not just themselves.
Tesla also buys from CATL, and thats more than from BYD. But they started with a panasonic joint op.
Tesla just started using BYD a couple of months ago. It's not that huge - CATL is their primary LFP supplier.
Tesla brings lawsuits to car reviewers and praises a company like BYD for stealing their designs. This must be the reason.
The CCPs (total) lack of respect for domestic market economics (dynamics) is key! Re: Chinese EV Realities. With Tesla’s profit margins 8x (conservatively) that of BYD’s, China’s EV boom is ringing hollow. Is BYD doing better on their USA EV bus & van sales?
@@Crunch_dGH United States trying every possible way to sanction Chinese product like battery,solar panels and Automobiles.😅Anyway BYD starting to look nicer than Tesla.
One thing the US definitely excels China is its act of cutting supplies of equipment to China. US does not try to win by upgrading itself, but by dragging others progresses. What a great country!
Yup, maestro to gain from everyone ally or not, without a sweat or penny or living person!
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@ytfanlingeric you mean USA unwilling to let China reverse engineering USA trade secrets...how dare the west
😂😂😂
One area where China definitely outperforms the US is in the act of copying and stealing US technologies, then flooding the market with their cheap products to undercut competitors from all over the world. 😂
One area where China definitely outperforms the US is in the act of copying and stealing US tech, then flooding the market with their cheap products to undercut competitors. What a great country!
The Chinese cars are gaining momentum in South Africa too. Great value for money, after sales support and they seem to listen to critics and keep improving.
How about the Toyota? Which one you prefer to purchase?
You are talking about a $30000 car on the official website, but I have to pay $40000? Is that Toyota?@@user-jv8zk8kf2g
these Chinese cars has high failure rate. Just look it up, even exploding in their country.
@@mikrobyo1790Electric cars from well-established companies such as BYD and GWM have been selling in Europe for a while already, and no problems have occurred with these cars to date, they are by far the best value for money on the ev market. remembering that "batteries on fire" was also a tesla problem in the beginning and this happens with brands that are not very consolidate, not the case of BYD and GWM
Lies, lies and lies...Chinks' batteries will only last two or three years at most until the batteries fail!(New batteries required just $22,000.00 Dollars USA!)
Now is only 2 months after this video posted, Huawei relesed several flagship smartphone with advanced 7 nanometer chip with 5G capability made by Chinese supply chain, looking back the comments by all these experts on the show are laughable, it won't be surprise that these choking points like DUV / EUV tauted by the experts will not be an issue for China in 3 to 5 years, by that time there will be two systems for advanced chip making in this world, these experts need worry about whether they can get rare earth industry independent from China before China get their chip making equipment independent from the chip alliance lead y US, without raw material, EUV can not make any chips
Remember how Toyota, Honda and Nissan were laughed at in the 1970s and 1980s and accused of all kinds of things. Remember how Hyundai, Samsung, Kia went through the same in the 1980s and 1990s.
Hyundai, Samsung, and KIA are still unreliable
Yes, but they were not scary countries.
@@cuckoonut1208 really? South Korea was a dictatorship then while in the case of Japan, go revisit what the west was saying about it then... What you mean is the west simply can't accept challengers, especially one as big and 'scary' as China.. With the means and capacity to give it a supreme run for its money.
@@cuckoonut1208 not scare countries - rely on the US for national defense; carefully not to do things the US wouldn’t want them to do e.g. build narrow body panels
@@cuckoonut1208Japan stopped being a scary country when it started building car factories in the US employing American workers.
The Japan bashing from Detroit stopped overnight when that happened.
Forty years ago, China was still concerned with how to feed its people, but today, we do not find it strange to compare it with the most technologically powerful country in the world, which has dominated the world for 100 years. Regardless of the outcome, this in itself is a huge success for China.
That's why the US and its allies act like Tonia Harding now - not to compete with China but to kneecap it.
以前的中国发展主要靠房地产经济发展，现在的中国朝着生物科学，高科技产业发展，中国会越来越好🇨🇳
Kinda of hard for USA to compete with China when the bar for China is extremely low and USA is high,
China landing on the far side of the moon is an accomplishment as USA sends a space craft to Pluto and its consider simply “eh”,
I think the rocket scene on this video explained it quite well,
China is competitive in markets that USA creates lol,
And comparing chinas progress to USA of tech that’s been operating for nearly 3 decades , and the very end ot the video where they only one country can lay claim to astrophysics as if it’s a question when literally the answer is USA, sorry but it’s absolutely true, I’m waiting for China to finally do something the USA isn’t able , right now USA is able to do everything China can but China can’t do everything USA has and it won’t be for a very long time , now I’m thinking by 2050 that can change but reality is , China isn’t even close to USA . But time always changes stuff and I do see it possible China one day can , specially when the problems of China can actually become public , only a superpower can afford to have their problems well known.
Power in the world is clearly noticed and its USA , the world actually plans around an American congress stalling Ukraine aid , no other country even comes close for bad or good let’s me real, the only thing China has done better then USA is propaganda, and that is saying a lot because both are extremely good at at it ,
And Ukraine has shown Russian military equipment isn’t even on par with American ones , which I’m not going to lie, prior I figured Russian military ones were either on par or only slightly worse and yet in battle American ones are showing to be generations ahead .
@@AV88-dz3jk不用等到2025年了，美国都坚持不到那个时候。
@@AV88-dz3jk it doesnt matter who creates something where people compete. Chinese accidentally invented gunpowder during the search for the heaven medicine to gain immortality but later European modified it and created field cannons.. Later can surpass the creator if playing in the right way, better way
Some of the best looking cars on Dubai roads are Chinese EVs. I'm a happy Toyota owner. But when it's time to upgrade, I will most definitely be looking at BYD or NIO
Boycott isreal
Good luck to you.
I guess you're buying cars for the looks. Me, on the other hand, I am buying cars for the quality, reliability.
Just look at the U.S. streets, 15-20 years old cars in the U.S. are still pass emissions and still on the road.
@@thanhtungnguyen-mi4htAmerican branded cars have some of the lowest qualities, don't kid yourself.
You are right. China EVS are more better.
In China, Tesla Model 3/Y are not consider as "luxury car", as their price range is targeted at regular middle-class families. Local Chinese brands like Nio, HiPhi and Li are the more accepted luxury EV brands in the Chinese market, with higher price range and better service than Model 3/Y.
China will win the century
Nobody outside China thinks Nio, HiPhi or Li are luxury EV brands.
@@tooltalkI mean that's quite literally a us talking point, they showed as luxury vehicles in Europe too so the vast majority of the world with the exception of US and Canada consider them luxury vehicles so about 95% of the world
@@holymoly3957 You mean USA is living in the stone age. Europe literally just labeled them as a Third World Country
@@NadeemAhmed-nv2br : Sure, so can Vinfast who released half-baked "luxury" EVs that nobody would buy. What's your point?
Comparing the C919 to the B737 with the facs that both are single aisle aircraft and have aprox the same amount of seats and claiming its copying, is like comparing a VW Golf to a Renault Megane and telling people both have 4 wheels and 5 seats. So is the Airbus A320 also just an evil copy of the Boeing 737???
Deng Xiaoping famously said "It doesn't matter whether a cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice."
The point here is, China 1.4 billions plus, of that 800 millions plus are middle class market all is looking for
No Airbus is modern 737 is nearly 60 years old.
C919 is very new and young. Once every chinese airline uses C919 then its game over for Boeing coz no one wants their plane to crash like MH370 and MH17. As at 2022, Boeing aircrafts have been involved in nearly 6,000 aviation accidents and incidents worldwide. Of those, 415 were fatal accidents, resulting in over 9,000 deaths.
Go Google it.
737 is very old and outdated. But Boeing is too greedy to invest money to build new platforms that is why 737max had serious problems. If Chinese want copy, they would copy airbus 320 , not Boeing 737.
Chinese also copies from the Americans for walking with 2 legs, instead of 4.
Fun Fact : The first Boeing mass produced aircraft Model C, was designed by a Chinese aeronautical engineer named Wong Tzu (Wang Zhu). "The 1st... and the Best”, he helped put the company on a sound footing. In 1916-17, he led the fledgling airplane manufacturer's first military plane, first airmail plane and eventually designing Boeing’s first successful passenger plane, the Boeing Model C. The Model C was not only Boeing’s first production order, it was the first Boeing aircraft to be produced in large numbers and sold. Wang Zhu later returned to his motherland to help China in aircraft manufacturings.
Same to another Chinese American Wang An, who pioneered personal computer industry way before microsoft.
Whyyte Supremacists are seething
Wrong. The Boeing Model C aircraft, also known as the Boeing B&W, was designed by Americans William E. Boeing and George Conrad Westervelt. It was Boeing's first attempt at designing and building an aircraft. The Model C was a biplane that made its first flight in 1916.
@robmcdougall2283 I am not going to argue with you whether it is right or wrong, look it up on Wong Tzu model C. I send sent you a link which was quickly taken off and deleted.
PS : Model C is not B&W, you are misinforming, Boeing B&W is Model 1 not Model C
But he was American citizen
Bravo ! Weiter so ! wir sind mit Euch ! Mut haben nicht locker lassen :) Ihr seid nicht allein !
How about 5Gs, commercial drones, solar pannels, AI applications...
China wins on all those except AI.
India takes the lead as they are the most powerful species in the universe 🎉🎉!!!!!!
China is currently the world leader in solar panels and drones but due to chip restrictions from US, netherland, Japan and SK Huawei who was once the no.1 in 5g tech is struggling to make their own 5g chips now but this might change as lot of investments are going into this research also AI application is hard to say as China has industrial bottlenecks in both software and high end chip production like 7nm, 5nm and 3nm compared to US but China has a different advantage in ai due to liberal privacy regulations compared to the west and a large amount of data from 1.4 billion people to train their AI model they aren't lagging behind much but without highend chips this gap will only widen currently China is combating the chip blocade by using cloud computing services partnered with google, amazon etc. But Biden is trying to even restrict these services that's why China sanctioned them by blocking 2 critical minerals for chips, currently China is only able to mass produce 28nm and that too require some assistance from asml and raw materials like ultra pure silicon wafers from Japan China's fully indigenous grown chip stops at 90nm
5G i can´t tell you, there are conflicting sources on the internet which either name the US or China as No1, but atm China installes far more 5G towers than the US does. Commerical drones China is years ahead with DJI compared to any other drone maker, no one comes even close to the variety, different capabilities of their drones and their price point. In AI the US leads clearly, that´s probably bc AI has more freedom for development there, in China there is strict censorship, so you would also have to implement this into the AI and it has way more regulation there.
@@krac3x438 hmm you're right I missed the censorship point it certainly affects it's development and dji is the Apple of drone market for now but with the chip sanctions I'm not sure how it will affect the future autonomous drones I'm not an electronic engineer so i don't know the specifics but certainly the restrictions will affect it's future growth same with 5g tech as of now China has more 5g coverage and users compared to US but currently Huawei their biggest 5g brand is struggling to make their own 5g chip for their smartphone because of the sanctions if they were able to tackle this issue the china can most likely overtake at&t, nokia and Ericsson
Given USA's overtly negative actions against China, it is appropriate and in China's national interest to become self-sufficient in air travel.
Given china’s overtly negative reactions against India, it’s is in your interest to be worried too!
But China just steals from and copies USA
China has been long holding unreasonable hatred against the US despite US' multiple attempts to communicate and mitigate tension. Seems your remarks are out of either ignorance and malicious intention to twist facts
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@@npai6612 😂😂😂👍🏽
Putting the competition aside, it seems to me that in today’s world only the US and China are currently making comprehensive technological advances and economic development at the national level.
On the scale of US and China on, yes. But in narrower specific fields, others can still make advancements.
Don't forget that even Japan has more nobel prizes than China...
china is just copying... that is not "making advances". The US makes advances. Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan, Suth Korea etc "make advances". The ccp is just a thief.
@@seanl764 Noble prizes are for basic research. They don't necessarily translate to technological prowess and actually putting out things that serves real and quantifiable purpose.
@@seanl764 Nobels generally award only research that goes back decades ，because it takes time to verify the importance of the technology.
And decades ago, most Chinese people were very poor and worried about lack of food.
This is a great overview, hope WSJ updates it annually
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China would be progressing rapidly. Time will tell. Pushing them so harsh in the last five years just like an awaken call to the whole nation to take even more drastic approaches to progress even much more quickly.
The kidnap of Meng Wanzhou was particularly encouraging. Huawei is taking it personal.
As a Chinese, Thank you for using the word"kidnap"@@herman9255
Already happened 😂 u been living under the rock.
They already surpassed the west in most technological categories.. you need to update your mindset.. stop using windows 98 and thinking you are advanced
I personally welcome China's bringing healthy competitions to the world. The world shouldn't be afraid of China!! China is contributing to humanity!
If China can build a space station, its version of GPS, Beidou, the largest HSR and highway networks SINGLE-HANDEDLY, in such a short frame of time, the rest wouldn't be that hard, it's just a matter of time. So, if the U.S. wants to be the modern-day Tanya Harding, it's bound to fail. The writing is already on the wall.
China is going down
The United States kidnapped the daughter of Huawei's CEO. Historically, American cowboys would not do such nasty things.
Very well said
Couldn't have said it better
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Stop supporting the capitalists who are trying to rip of every country.
It's all about a matter of time. The important point is that there is a centralized political will to guide these important national decisions. And give or take 5-10 years these technologies can be advanced and made viable over time.
Finally someone speaks truth about the actual Pros of China's political/economical system. Most people from US doesn't understand how a country can truly be united to achieve something critical to the future of a country. In this case, it's China running against time to replace and overtake key technologies from the US and its allies as a whole. Since Trump's sanction, China has caught up and become leading in almost every tech frontier, except in chip manufacturing where they are still (only) two generations behind. Once they figured out how to get down to 3-4nm fabrication, once they will, US won't have any tech left to even start a sanction against China.
China needs to design aircraft that looks like a bat, a car that looks like a panda and computers with bamboo, so others can't say they are copying.
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Haters will always hate, with or without reason.
That's what they wanted
Haha
Lol
The situation between the US and China remind me of the tale of the tortoise and the hare. While the hare kept trying to sabotage the progress of the tortoise, the tortoise kept it's head down and kept on moving ahead slowly. And won! The US has the potential to remain a great power. But it is destroying itself through bad management and military ambitions. Wishing both countries wisdom and good luck.
China is not exactly keeping its head down. They have consistently stole American technology and made copy’s of it among other things. As long as the CCP acts obnoxious the US will continue hurting them, and it’s hard to see China having a bright future without the US protecting the trade routs in which they use to import the goods they NEED because they cannot secure them within their own borders.
'it is destroying itself through bad management'.......so true! That statement holds true for many businesses within the usa.
I have never been to China but in the USA you can walk around SF or even NYC and the signs of rot and deterioration in our biggest cities are evident everywhere
keep dreaming. the world is with the US and China is looking like a bully thinking they own every part of the south ocean
No democrats are destroying USA.
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Thanks for this video, very well done 🇨🇦
Good stuff - competition is great, drives humanity forward.
Congratulations on discovering biggest commonality, between Chinese and Americans. they are human beings.
drives global warming. sends the planet, and humanity backward.
Stealing technology doesn't
@@warriorfb2010everybody steals in one way or another
@@ctky478 The difference is that when Chinese companies are involved the state is involved. China using state funds/assets to give Chinese companies an unfair advantage is different not the norm. BYD is highly subsidized and the CCP controls the resources and processing used to make these products. How? by subsidizing the entire industry to control it and the players.
Amazed by how fast China is not only catching up but even surpassing the US in so many fields in such a speed that should have taken many generations knowing where their technology was 3 decades ago.
With such an exponential speed one can only wonder where their technology will be in the next 3 decades! Their greatest challenge is now their population growth drastic downward trend and the impact it will have on domestic demand. Europe seems to be already behind but nothing is written in stone as China’s growth has proven, no one ever thought that this could happen, 3 decades ago. Even in chips, many still believe that the gap is so big that China will never catch up… China might prove them wrong.
Hopefully we can see something similar reproduced elsewhere in other continents.
>> Amazed by how fast China is not only catching up but even surpassing the US in so many fields in such ...
Wumao alert!
@@jilbertbnot really he is just speaking facts 😂
@@jilbertbButt hurts😂😂
China has been incredibly inventive, and a lot of the key technologies of the industrial revolution were invented by Chinese engineers and craftspeople. Globalisation means everybody gets access to everything, especially when it comes to ideas... surely?
The secrecy of the cold war served to impair the development of social and ethical forms of advanced technology.
Fantastic Comparison, great job and thank you 🙏 😊 kind regards from Madrid, Ken
BYD seal looks nothing like model 3. They both have 4 tires though
What do you expect from US media? They were under US exceptionalism for too long. They believed US stands for humanity
the entire ! car is engineered ! by Western ! educated ! western people ! nobody in that country ! would ever get up before 11 in the morning ! if there would not be leaders of ideas ! remember where you were 1960 ?
The problem is that BYD produced the world's first mass-produced market commercialization around 2003, and Tesla has not yet been born.😂
All mobile phones had screens just like iPhones, don’t understand why people went crazy when Apple released iPhone.
The interior of Seal is much better than that of model 3. The interior of model 3 is... no interior
Just within this week:Huawei announced releases of 3 new phones with chips manufactured from China only
Excellent pieces of information.
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Designing and Building a successful commercial airliner technologically advance for many countries to do.
Brazil has Embraer E2 comparable to A320 and 737.
If the Brazil can do it so can China.
everyone can copy, but the innovation still happening in the US
To be fair, China copied Russians and then stole IPs using hacking and spies from western nations to achieve current airliner tech.
i think the E2 is smaller than the 320 and 737. the the Bombardier/Airbus 220 being more comparable. but i do think Embraer is a great achievement for the Brazilians and their industry
@@archmad yeah, if u keep killing all the competitions like HUAWEI
China will overtake the US in all key tech fields..There is no way the US can compete against China
Studying chinese business ideas right now. Thanks for the video.
I moved out to China five years ago. Over the past two or three years, I've been massively impressed by the EVs coming out from domestic manufacturers like NIO, XPENG, etc. They're futuristic and are miles ahead in terms of performance and technology (as well as looks) compared with the likes of Tesla. China's major cities have had autonomous robot deliveries for years, and also a few months ago here in Shenzhen, they started drone deliveries of packages (not to homes but to pick up stations on the street). China is literally living in the future.
there you go, we all can compete in science and technology, not in arms race, the world doesn't need another world war
The Chinese copy other peoples tech.
怎么抄袭 你个无知的人 科技产品，是没办法抄袭的 看一眼外观是没办法生产出同样的科技产品的，这不是画画
The BYD section is shockingly omitting so many facts, incredible
You mean the "slaves"? Children cannot be slaves.
@@Bcorcoran100 It is now US states that allows children to work, first in slaughterhouses
Exactly! I dont know why they are leaving out the whole "child slavery" nonsense going on.@@etbadaboum
It’s expected and not surprising at all for WSJ production. 😂
Nice information. Thank you.😅
LFP batteries are not only cheaper, but much safer and durable. There has been a big trend to LFP after BYD pioneered it
The race is on for sodium ion batteries
this is an awesome video, well done and well made
excellent content very well presented and in a format i found to be highly engaging. thanks WSJ
I know this "report" is intended to throw shade at China, but I think that ignoring that the C919 is much more similar to the A320 and talking up the 737 as if it sets the industry standard is more of and insult to Airbus.
@45:12, USA doesn’t have a high speed rail. It’s a snail speed rail when compared to Japan, China, or France’s high speed rails.
In coming decade China would be ahead would be ahead of all in all technologies. From semiconductors to aviation.
Like cooking, what's missing is time... just time.
China is now giving the United States a headache, because the United States cannot sanction China, from military weapons to electric vehicles to chips and DJI drones, the United States does not have the ability to sanction China, China can continue to develop at a high speed😂😂😂
Na，I only hear from this.
no
@@jajajajaja8464 China's progress is like a high-speed train which China has many and us has none. China Communist rule is only 74 years old while US so called democracy is almost 250 years old. China builds while US bombs and destroys. China builds economic relationships while US applies sanctions and alienates nations. See the writing on the wall and figure out which nation has a better chance of success?
Amazing interview, thank you for that. I was feeling depressed today until I watched this and it turned it all around.
U.S. - China rivalry is good for the world in propelling innovations.
Comac 919 also built by Eaton, USA- Costa Mesa, California and India - Pune. I am the key person in Avionics alongwith Chief Engineer - Tatavoosian Van and Chinese employee - Yuan Juanmingh and Minh and Rudy Rusali. Comac -919 is Digital and Numeric Display with hybrid displays consists of OLED and LEDs. The whole specification sheet of Comac -919 was made by me. Comac -919 is advanced version of ARJ-21. Comac-919 project was owning by Chief Engineer -Eaton - Tatavoosian Van and Rudy Rusali. They presented at China. I can not forget this moment. I was in California - USA when Chief Engineer and Rudy Rusali went to China to own the project. I sat in the chief Engineer chair for 15 days and I was Chief Engineer for 15 days at Eaton, USA. This is an honour for me.
thanks for u
I'm worried they will be accused by US government for "spying" for china
So much to say about America being a free market by using its influence to stifle competition
It goes both ways. If China won’t play by the rules then they must be cut out
@@righteousmammon9011did u cry for japan n korea then? or just crushed them to submission only then label them as “friends” ? classic righteous cxxt!
Free means free to compete, not free to steal. R&D costs money and should be rewarded and bolstered. However, shanzhai is healthy foil for patent trolls. There is a fair middle ground to be found. China is transgressing our agreed rules. Fortunately, we're free to manufacture elsewhere.
@@fannyalbi9040 Japan and South Korea are doing quite well. They aren't stabbing us in the back. They are friends without quotes. How is North Korea doing? Aren't they China's "friends?"
@@fannyalbi9040 I think Japan and South Korea are much better off as American Allies, considering they are some of the wealthiest countries in the world. Much better than the China allied North Korea. I'm actually part Korean myself :)
Thank WSJ for making this video available. I learned a lot.
Need to stop watching western reporting to learn what is true in the world. More the half million Ukrainians fail & die.
AIRBUS is the absolut marketleader in narrow body aircraft sales. The A320 series is dominating globally. Boeing has invested in China too. The first aircraft manufacturer in Chiba was Embraer in Harbin.
Very good they must have made akot of research, students getting the info's, testing having foreigners sharing with all that had improved it.well don.
Tesla vs BYD, Wuling, Xpeng, Geely, DFSK,.etc.
还有理想，蔚来，极狐……太多了
There's one brand that are doing very well recently but no one outside of China heard it before. Aeon from GAC
And Nio!!
China's biggest manufacturing advantages are their people and governance system. China has more engineers than any other countries. Its centralized government achieves better synchonization, speed, and efficiency. The American advantages are its technology, allies, and currency and military supremacy. The American advantages are quickly losing. But the biggest problem is that the general American public are misled by the very distorted reports of China that they don't know how strong China is.
ur factoids r true but ur conclusions r wrong: ppl r aware of China's strengths/weaknesses. Most basic summation of China's s/w compared to America is high GDP but low GDP per capita. Not going to argue the facts u gave cuz apparently u made up ur minding by implying China has long-term capabilities while US has reached its peak. Think about present China n future US before comparing present to future.
I don't know many Americans who believe we are the best except for online fools.
China also misleads on how strong they are.
You aren't ever going to get any negativity from China. Are you kidding me? The entire government spends more than entire countries on propaganda, civil security, and saving face.
China so far has proven they cannot innovate. They've had to either steal or copy.
Twenty years from now? Sure...
I do agree with you on western governments having flaws. We are clunky, short sighted, and don't always focus in on what we should.
The whole supporting microchips, and other electronic manufacturing though has given me some hope.
We might not be ASLM for instance but we still are leaders in many pieces of the entire puzzle for many technologies. Also only Europe comes close to touching America in the aerospace industry.
One thing America is good for that does help. We are a country who people do want to move to relative to many others with Europe being the other. No one with talent wants to move to Russia or China. Even places like Japan are notioursly polite but also very xenophobic.
@@CillianMccringleberry269 disagree things will change, no one can predict the future even in the next couple of days, so don't compare the current with the future in general.
@@chunyuou9944 because ur comment sounds cliche af, everything u said can be discounted as superficially wrong.
@@CillianMccringleberry269 While, cliche or not, be that way and let the history reveal itself. The future will come no matter what, and things are changing no matter what, so let's wait together and come back to this thread later
Great Show
The problem with high speed rail in the US on the Acela is not curves. It’s the width of the alignment, signals, and track design. The NEC is straight enough in many sections to allow for higher speeds. Also it’s very common for HSR lines to have slowed sections to reduce building and maintenance costs.
For a new dedicated HSR system it could use one of the existing designs. I think the challenge is to obtain rights to build the HSR rail on existing land that isn't owned by the government. That'll take forever...
The critical dimension of the transistor is ~7nm (a bit larger, actually) but not the whole thing!
Also there is no standard for measuring. TSMC 7nm is better than Samsung 6nm, and comparable to Intel 7 (previously called 10nm).
It's a marketing term, not something engineers actually care about.
@@LaughingOrange yes, indeed.
Now China is using 5.5G while the west is still on 5G
I like WSJ's recent (last 4 to 5 years?) turn towards regular, in-depth tech and industrial systems reporting. We can thank China for this refreshing turn away from financialization in the public imagination.
Or Rupert Murdoch
China is just a big bully , trying to be the powerhouse in Asia.
Your finacialization is evitable. Trust me. We will see.
Considering how backward China was 50 years ago. In such a short time, it can produce products with the most sophisticated technology, which is just amazing! Hope every developing country in the world will be able to achieve the same thing some day!
more people need to seee this
My country is actually being compared to the USA, the most powerful country in the world, that's so surreal. Literally several decades ago we were in medieval states
china was dominating the world for millennia. back on top
@@dustinchen Chinese economy is currently in a freefall. Whatever you have been watching was lying to you.
@@dustinchen god I was agreeing with you so hard until that awful cringe “back on top” do you guys realise overt displays of nationalism is insanely cringe to most nations, in regards to modern economic stuff that is, it’s great to be proud of your culture, ancestors and beloved national heroes. But being proud to produce 12.5% more potatoes this year like in Maoist china and NK is cringe
You say this as if your country is a tiny little baby island which had to cross frozen tundra and desert just to build a wooden cabin… instead your the worlds most populous, most fertile and well suited land for trade, production etc. China literally spawned in to the server on EASY MODE. While Europe spawned on HARD, your little speech is cringe. China would have regained its prowess far earlier if not for almost 50 years of pain under the communist regime of Mao and ccp
africa probabyl ahrd mode while europe medium @@dopaminedreams1122
Tesla is not afraid of BYD. In fact they respect each other, share technology and they both have the same competitors; ICE and, collectively, they are killing it.
The rapid rise of Chinese technology development has a clear and simple cause. Their serious investment in education and their deep, cultural respect for teachers. This is in stark contrast to the US approach.
In sport if a competitor tried to win not by improving their own performance but by bringing their competitors undone they would, quite rightly, be considered cheats and, in the long run, would be bringing themselves undone. It's a classic tactic of losers.
America needs to up its game rather than trying to prevent China's advances.
tesla needs to not be afraid of China nor BYD. China is its biggest market and BYD supplies Tesla its batteries and some other parts.
True
Are you Elon Musk?
@@mp7161 No, just a close observer and massively sceptical of the finest mainstream media money can buy. Including this mob.
America needs to up its game rather than trying to prevent China's advances.
When it comes to AI, does chip size really matter? Whether 3nm or 5nm the chips used in AI will be in servers housed in cooling cabinets.
im mexican, 78 & living in mexico city. when china was poor, no one gave them any respect but only mocked and laughed at the chinese. today china is rich, smart & very powerful... the world listens to every world the chinese people say. i saw all this change took place in under 30 years. bottom line here, money talks and money is power. instead of us mexicans being jealous of china, lets copy, learn and follow in the chinos footsteps - viva powerful china!
Denzel Washington movie Flight. Rip whistleblower John Barnett 😢
ok... yup! @@AwesomeBlackDude
Picasson "Good artists copy, great artists steal"
Amazing work. Thank you for this 👏🏼
ASML is a Dutch company, not US
Honestly, we love China Tech, from EVs, High Speed trains, Gadgets etc. It's just simply affordable
Great discussion
Great thing in all these is that America is counting down and China is counting up😂😂😂
Nice non politicised analysis. Educational and informative.
What non politicized? This is Wall Street Journal. lol Of course this is Pro-America. lol
I wouldn't expect to find that here. In the era of censorship.
@@lovepeoplehu9883 When the water is too muddy, you can't hide it anymore...
Let's all be blind, dumb and naive - forme a ring and dance, while singing: 'kimbajah... kimbajah'...!
This clip is almost half a year old. A lot has changed since that time.
As long as we have aircraft carrier superiority, we should be fine. They literally are floating fortresses. They give us a huge advantage
Aurora has been completed and is now the world's fastest supercomputer at Argonne National Labs.
Look at their mega cities compared to the rest of the world. You can fit 15 of the top most populated cities in the US into Chinas 1 mega city. Then you look at how much cleaner / well maintained their transportation is compared to anything in the US and you start to realize that the US should really be downgraded to developing country.
Don't forget how fast Chinese cities are falling apart. Most Chinese buildings don't even have proper plumbing systems. Example is their Shanghai EXPO center which hosted their version of Comic Con which was completely flooded during the convention.
Edit - Cleaner? China's got some of the worst tap water in the world. Ground water is polluted beyond consumption.
To think the US is a developing country just speaks to how insulated you are. Middle class is what you should look in countries and don’t always trust one source. Verify with multiple sources. China is making strides but just like Dubai, are making to many big pushes for elite style cities without building up the infrastructure for normal everyday people.
They barely have safety standards in china
Nah US is still rich. But the distribution of wealth is faulty at this point
Go and live there then 😊
It is foreseeable that the stck mrkt may exp. further declines, and the Fed.Reserve's decision to halt interest rate hikes, given its previous stance on combating inflatio, is uncertain.
Vital video. The front end of the competition. Hope for a better outcome for the whole world.
Also mostly false. It downplays the U.S. and upsells everything the other country offers. Which, I can't name that country; thanks YT. Their flag is mostly red. In any case, many of the statistics are outright incorrect, particularly during the EV portion. The U.S. is the world's second largest Lithium EV battery producer.
Competing by stealing technology is not good though.
There is no US domestic HSR rolling stock manufacturing company
don't worry the chinese c919 has already been deemed not ready to fly. it was a rushed project using mostly western parts and technology. comac c919 is not safe and so far is nothing but Chinese state propaganda.
>> There is no US domestic HSR rolling stock manufacturing company
@@tooltalkjust admit third world country rail network in the USA
The very fact that China can compete with the U.S. in almost all technologies says a lot already
You mean china compete with Taiwan? Because that’s a funny example of how Chinas industry and success is 100% due to the hard working Chinese people and their spirit, rather than the “CCP miracle” which didn’t even come CLOSE to taiwan until they basically became capitalist and allowed Chinese people to do their thing. Funny that. If taiwans structure of free market and democracy had the population of China, that country wouldn’t be just barely scratching by America, with 4 times the population, but at least equal on a per capita level, which would make China around as rich and prosperous as all of North America and all of Europe combined
The finest work on creating such rep. So much effords🦧
It's good for everyone, this competition. Things would be cheaper for the masses and the minions around the globe. 🎉🎉🎉
China just surpassed Japan to be the biggest car exporter of the world. And most of them are for EVs.
Yeah, and the ones not starting on fire, were purchased and parked in fields, just to grow the numbers.
@@jilbertb The sadness of a mind is to make up something and dwell on it. That is what you are doing.
So nice
I worked in Beijing mentoring a dozen of engineers. They were hard workers, humble and yet full of confidence. They would publish paper even before they had experience doing it. Engineers were respected as much other money making professions such as llawyers😂😂😂
can't believe WSJ pick BlueOrigin but not SpaceX in space competition, the EV comparison is not entirely accurate
gotta spin to look good in front of the audience in order to pull wool over their eyes...
❤The thumbnail !
✈️ Planes ,
🚅 Trains &
🚗 Automobiles
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given that 737 is dangerous to fly on, i would rather pick the Chinese jet
Lars stole the show, what a knowledgeable guy, an invaluable member of the Tesla team.
26:42 As straightforward of a name as it could possibly have been
The Boeing Max crashed more frequently by design
this is a good competition between the two country. whoever wins all human win.
Nice post
A series of credible takes but many would be controversial. Typical of WSJ articles, certain perceptions are biased in favor of business and probably not truly reflective of the situation and prospects.
Fake propaganda.
True. They ignore the fact that China, in many areas in which they are a global leader nowadays started just from faking western products and tech
Give us more specific example on what is controversial?
@@lc8850 Claiming BYS is a copycat of Tesla( not true, doesn't look the same in person) and tesla having more advanced batteries( not true, BYD has range of cars with different battery tech), Bashing COMAC for not having homegrown supply chain but Boeing or Airbus doesn't have that either( however those partner countries are never gonna cause a problem for the USA so i understand the pov there). Chip making- CN has upto 5nm design and production capability, sanctions and protectionism is causing the barrier not technological advancements. The U.S. doesn't have the most significant chip manufacturing tools, a dutch co. ASML does and U.S. is forcing them to not supply to the Chinese companies, so Americas global influence and power is the barrier here, not innovation.
its funny how till this day media like WSJ still take tesla as the benchmark....... give more respect to BYD and the many CDM brands. US/EU are years and years behind the CHN market on automotive.
China having amazing high end manufacturing technology
The more competition, the better.
737 Max 8. MCAS. 347 died. Nice how we just ignore that fact.
@0:22 No other aeroplane model can compare to the Beoing 737, they are literally dangerous and synonymous with crashing
Its the will of the Boeing Company to enforce quality which is the problem. Without the will needed to enforce quality, any company of a complex product will fail.
Toyota, after the death of its founder, when through a period when quantity was considered more important than quality. They realized their mistake, and have taken action to correct, but not before suffering setbacks.
Boeing has a problem inherent in the type of management, it now has. For example, thinking they can control complexity 2nd hand, moving from Seattle to Chicago, pandering to the Wall Street, by sacking 5000 engineers. Their certainly not the first company to make such errors, the concerning aspect is the unwillingness to learn.
very good
With all the recent mishaps with Boeing Airplanes, they’re not as reliant as they once were.
There are hundreds of comments in these threads and yours the only one who post real info about this company.
seems like a very objective and unbiased report of the current situation. good job WSJ.
Not sure of the china bashing though
@@SayNoToIdiots “china bashing” is not a real thing, considering the antagonistic propaganda BY China towards all nations (south China sea etc.) and the west, which is constantly slanders in its own media. The west merely responds in a mild way. In fact we even allow massive amounts of pro china propoganda to be pushed on our own websites and media, just look at this comment section. EVERY TOP COMMENT is pro china, and even worse, but obviously if you know Chinas agenda, extremely negative towards America, as if both nations can’t just support each others growth and success, instead it must be a fight. But seriously crying about “China bashing” under the single most pro ccp comment section I have EVER seen on western media is a new level of Chinese hypocrisy and victim mentality
What vexes me is how little money seems to have been allocated to one of the most important components of growth for the ev car industry, infrastructure. Leading to mileage anxiety.
nice content