I take my new STOCK rig out to Ouray for a week of wheeling!??!?!
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- čas přidán 4. 11. 2023
- I finally caved and bought a new vehicle to daily drive and wheel...and decided a good test would be a 4,000 mile road trip to Ouray would be a great way to test it out! I have to say, this Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk is a pretty nice daily driving offroader for sure!
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-Chief Products "Rock Sliders"...don't get these...they are terrible.
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We got a guy in our group running a grand cherokee trailhawk. It does really well. You won't be disappointed.
I'm still about 50/50, but enjoying it none the less. We'll see how the next year goes. I'm the only WK2 in my area that actually does trails.
@@FearlessTrailhawkwk2 is a step up from the trailhawk
I’m very jealous of the WK2. “I’ll be careful”… you sure were lol
I *almost* put a pic from the wall right there too...lol Still can't wait to watch your WK2 video!
@@FearlessTrailhawk haha probably 2024 release with how behind we are lol
Yay ! Thanks for the video , that's my KL trail hawk , and Thanks for a great ride !
It was great to meet ya man! Glad you had a good time!
I guess this is an old video that you just got around to posting.I have got to get out there one of these days.
Bought it at the end of August, the two weeks later i had it in Ouray. I just figured i'd skip the LONG line of old videos and get this one out so i can maybe post a little WK2 content sooner than next year....lol
I swear that section near the reservoir with the construction has not changed since I was there last August. I agree with the traffic on Imogene although we made friends with other jeeps as we waited for traffic and tour trucks to pass, that and waiting on our friends Jeep Renegade latitude to cool off as we made the climb up. We also were at the top when a rain cloud pushed through, was the coolest thing being inside a rain cloud at the top.
I would like to see it be 1-way traffic, but it is what it is, and we didn't have as much as the last time i was there since we went on a monday and after school was back in session.
That is one of the downsides to the Renegade and Compass not having an actual low range....just locked into 1st gear high...i've heard that quite a few times about having overheating issues doing climbs.
@@FearlessTrailhawk I agree, 1 way from the Telluride side. Would help the erosion on the downside towards Ouray.
Congratulations, we met in Moab at chicken corners when you were struggling with your Cherokee. I know how frustrating it is as my Grand spent a month in the shop because I didn't respect my limitations Lol Keep up the great videos and always looking forward to your next..
Thank you! Yeah, i'm hoping this next year turns around and i can stop having to worry about some of this ridiculous stuff...
I'm glad to know you've got your priorities down, and ordered rock sliders and new tires.
I originally subscribed for the KL adventures, but the WK2 platform is something I eventually plan to own in Durango Pursuit form.
The KL content will still be coming, i just wanted to skip the LONG line to get this one out sooner. Don't know what exactly will be happening to the KL if i ever get it back with a new PTU.
Considering i KNOW this style of platform needs sliders to do a lot of stuff without door damage, after having put the RRO sliders on my KL through absolute hell for 5 years. Sliders were the first thing i did on the KL.
However, these Chief 'sliders' weren't worth the money...imho they classify as 'better than nothing'....and i will be ordering a RRO set to replace them as soon as i am able.
@@FearlessTrailhawkbuddy of mine has been waiting a year for a ptu in this BU.
You know, our Grand Cherokee Trailhawk is getting better mpg than the cherokee did. Pleasant suprise. We are loving it.
Mine is about the same, averaging 17 mpg atm, but i also have 33s on it now.
@FearlessTrailhawk That does affect it. 31.5 will do everything we do in our part of the country. Hope to add the rock rails and lower winch plate soon. The grand looks so much better with a beefier tire.
Congrats on the new ride. The wk2 seems to be coming up in the off road world. I have a 2016 GC Limited and I love it. I put Yokohama AT's on it and looking for a lift kit. Enjoy! Looking forward to the next video/adventure.
The sheer amount of aftermarket support for it is night and day difference with the KL. I'm still on the fence as to which one is better for the trails, each have their advantages.
Yay for you and your GCT. We really enjoy the progression of the production value of your videos. NICE! Keep up the good work.
Thanks! Still not sure exactly whats going to happen with the KL, but i do still have lots of content to publish with that yet, i just wanted to jump the line with this video so i can put out a few WK2 vids before next year...lol
Welcome to the WK2 club. Enjoy!
Thanks! So far its a good ride!
Congratulations on the new ride! 🎉🎊🎈I look forward to wheeling with you again soon👍🏾
Thanks! For sure man, can't wait to get something planned!
I went from a 14 KL Limited ADII (with a Passport in between) to a 19 Hemi Trailhawk Wk2. By far my favorite car even if it gives me issues here and there. Always impresses people offroad and I push it. With good tires, QL all the way up, and the E-LSD, getting stuck is usually about ground clearance (vs some rut or bad terrain). 6 Monkeys is the main shop to grab gear from these days (I went with full Chief all around before 6M really hit the scene). Enjoy!
There are a few things that annoy me in this vs the KL, the approach/departure angles are worse, and the air lift reseting the height every time you switch 'modes'.
I also wish i hadn't gotten those &h!% chief sliders. By the end of this week in Ouray, the way these things were so easily destroyed by a couple medium trails got a couple people to decide to buy the RRO sliders. I would never consider anything from Chief "protection"....more like "better than nothing"....which is not something one should say when the products cost that much (3X more than their competition). Review for those coming at some point. I'll be buying a set of RRO sliders as soon as i'm financially able to, hoping these Chief 'sliders' survive long enough...i've never seen 'rock sliders' get this destroyed so quickly.
@@FearlessTrailhawk Yea mine got dinged and banged up first true blue trail. I usually just put the Jeep in Rock mode w/ 4low and leave it there given my home base of AOAA/Rausch.
There’s some pretty solid guides to swap the air ride out for a traditional spring/strut setup if needed. Usually the path once everyone has their first time the air ride fails on trail (and when it fails, it fails into park mode so you’re sitting on your tire). I’ve been lucky, so far…
The video i sent Chief, apparently their engineers said thats the worst damage they'd ever seen (including their own testing!!!!)...from a couple medium trails outside of Ouray. My RRO sliders took an absolute beating for 5 years and barely have the one single dent on them. These chief sliders have HOLES in them....
Hey Fearless love the scenery ... Congratulations on the new ride! Will you put a 2 inch or 4-in lift kit with the bigger tires?
Running the stock air-ride for now. Atm i stuffed some 33.4 Falken RT's under her...they are just a bit to big and do rub a fair amount at full flex. I don't plan to lift it so long as the air ride treats me well, as a full-time lift is what kills CV's.
Looking forward to seeing how your new rig works out, best of luck from the KL community!
Edit: I used to trail run my old WJ Overland, 4.7HO. Never really beat on it but it never got hung up. Was a good jeep. Got replaced by my old '04 TJ Rubi, ran that tractor for twelve years, lots of good times with her... But she got traded in for the '19 KL 'Hawk, which I'm still running. Only one fail to date back in '20. The dreaded PTU failure! Warranty repair and still doing fine. 🤞😁
Me too! So far i've been able to drive her home from each out of state wheeling trip (4 so far)....so thats already a great improvement! But i was just done upgrading the KL...now i'm starting from scratch...with much more expensive versions for the WK2...ugh
Congrats on the WK2 Trailhawk. We just bought a WL 4xe trailhawk and love it. Always enjoy your content!
Not exactly what i needed to be spending money on, but i am certainly glad i picked this over a gladiator, i would have hated driving a JT that far. I've already put like 8k miles on her....
@@FearlessTrailhawk Good call. 8k in a gladiator would not have been as comfortable for sure :) We stepped from the 19 KL trailhawk to a 21 WK2 to our current unit. They’ve been great units on and off road.
Mountains total bummer on your Cherokee trail hawk, I was thinking about going the other direction. I have a grand Cherokee trail hawk was thinking about downsizing to the Cherokee. Based on reviews I’ve seen on CZcams. I just need better fuel economy, and when I told my little off-road trailer, my fuel mileage drops to about 10 miles per gallon. Plus, I was hoping I get a little bit lower monthly payment.
I been seriously thinking of upgrading to the GC Trailhawk myself, what really draws me is the v8 option. However I'm very concerned about the air suspension function and reliability.
The air suspension appeals to me because you get the benefit of a lift for the trails, but then keep the CV's at nominal operating angles during normal highway driving. Yeah its more complex than regular struts, but anything can fail. I've seen quite a few WK2's with air ride wheel often with no issues.
Gladiator has more potential.... BUT... It's like $10,000 in upgrades just to match the grand Cherokee Trailhawk breakover angle.
My ex had a gladiator, and just a lift and tires and they turn into beasts. Just have to get used to dragging the hitch on everything. Plus more shops can competently work on them... (and parts are easier to find/cheaper)
I've already spent over $3,500 on tires and sliders for this thing....and i'm so mad about how weak the sliders are. Review coming soon(tm).
I had a Grand and I traded for a Cherokee, I'm not happy with my decision
I have heard absolute horror stories regarding the 4xe lineup. Several of my wrangler buddies had the GC 4xe and traded back after several months. GL amd hopefully you wont have any issues. FYI most of the issues apply at 35/45 k miles.
This one already had 50k miles as a rental car. I got a MaxCare up to 125k.
@@FearlessTrailhawknice! This should be an exciting journey
Theres a better aftermarket for the Grand Cherokees compared to the Cherokee I believe? I could go online and order steel bumper for the grand cherokee right now, compared to my KL.
Much better aftermarket, though it is a bit pricey, but yes, there are at least 6 different shops that make bumpers and sliders.
"I'll be careful" immediately a problem occurs it's like saying the word "Quiet" for first responders. Think it never say it lol. I've driven many of those G.C.s for rentals unironically in white, can't wait to see what you do to it. I always enjoyed them
Mine had 50k rental miles on it! But yeah, the last two days of wheeling on that trip i decided to take a few chances...lol. And one of them bit me bad...and cost me $700 and a whole day...
I considered a Hemi Grand. Does it have the air suspension?
It does have the air suspension. Its a stock TH model plus the rock sliders, and i have now swapped the tires to 33's.
What did you get for trade in on the Cherokee, Thinking about trading in my 2019 trail hawk
Nothing. Its still waiting for parts as indicated in the video. Though i was curious and asked the dealer to give me a trade in figure....$3,500. I was not amused.
Doe's the Grand Trailhawk have a rear locker
ELSD, but when set to rock mode it fully locks the clutch packs and is the same thing. (as far as i understand it...sorta new to this one) So far i haven't had any issues with wheel slip that weren't expected due to terrain.
I’m surprised you’re using a weight distribution hitch on a WK2, I’m towing a No Boundaries, 10.6. And a Ember ROL 13’ It weighs 3700-4200 pounds loaded and I don’t use any kind of weight distribution or sway control whatsoever.
🤷 i just find the whole tow experience much better with the WD hitch. Mine is 3,400 dry.