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Sonic Adventure 2 - But it's all stories in chronological order at the same time
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2022
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After the huge popularity, and massive amount of attention the original video got in such a short amount of time, I decided by popular demand; to follow up with another game, people were extremely curious about; Sonic Adventure 2.
I will say this, Sonic Adventure 2 was a lot easier to put together then the original, since there's a lot less moments where multiple characters are running around at the same time, due to the fact that there is a strict timeline and time codes at the start of basically every level. The challenge then becomes, arranging them in an order where the events make logical sense; which is what I went for.
However, unlike Sonic Adventure, which I regularly replay through once a year, Sonic Adventure 2, I was very rusty with, as I don't usually replay Sonic Adventure 2. I remember playing it a ton when it first came out, but it's not a game I often reach for, just for fun... it's a great game in bursts, don't get me wrong. But unlike Sonic Adventure, where you have to actively try to break the game, at times; I feel Sonic Adventure 2 is just janky by design. Still a great game, by all accounts, but I do think it's the first of the Sonic games that started the whole "Sonic games are glitchy as hell" movement. That said, the Multiplayer is a blast, if you have the right friends to experience it with.
This was recorded using the Gamecube version of Sonic Adventure 2: Battle.
0:00:00 Opening
0:01:20 Iron Gate: Eggman
0:07:12 Boss - B-3x Hot Shot: Shadow
0:09:14 Wild Canyon: Knuckles/Dry Lagoon: Rouge
0:12:14 Dry Lagoon: Rouge
0:13:26 City Escape: Sonic
0:17:53 Radical Highway: Shadow
0:21:25 Boss - F-6t Big Foot: Sonic/Radical Highway: Shadow
0:22:48 Event: Shadow the Hedgehog
0:24:04 Sand Ocean: Eggman
0:30:25 Egg Quarters: Rouge
0:34:50 Lost Colony: Eggman
0:39:19 Event: The Eclipse Cannon
0:42:06 Event: Operation Prison Island
0:43:17 Weapons Bed: Eggman
0:47:21 Boss - Tails vs Eggman
0:49:46 Prison Lane: Tails
0:50:07 Prison Lane: Tails/Security Hall: Rouge
0:52:37 Prison Lane: Tails/Boss - R-1A Flying Dog: Rouge
0:54:49 Metal Harbor: Sonic/White Jungle: Shadow
0:57:54 Boss - Sonic vs Shadow
0:59:10 Green Forest: Sonic
1:03:12 Pumpkin Hill: Knuckles
1:06:55 Event: Memories of the Past
1:08:22 Event: Day X
1:09:46 Mission Street: Tails
1:15:29 Aquatic Mine: Knuckles
1:20:53 Route 101: Tails
1:25:19 Event: Finding Eggman
1:26:29 Event: Finding Eggman/Event: The Last Chaos Emerald
1:26:53 Event: The Last Chaos Emerald
1:28:15 Route 280: Rouge
1:32:01 Sky Rail: Shadow
1:34:35 Hidden Base: Tails
1:40:07 Pyramid Cave: Sonic
1:44:42 Death Chamber: Knuckles
1:54:26 Boss - King Boom Boo: Knuckles
1:58:19 Boss - Egg Golem: Sonic
2:01:23 Boss - Egg Golem: Eggman
2:01:57 Event: To the Ark/Boss - Egg Golem: Eggman
2:03:17 Eternal Engine: Tails
2:11:16 Meteor Herd: Knuckles/Mad Space: Rouge
2:16:47 Boss - Knuckles vs Rouge
2:21:36 Cosmic Wall: Eggman
2:29:39 Crazy Gadget: Sonic
2:38:08 Event: The End of Sonic the Hedgehog
2:40:43 Boss - Tails vs Eggman
2:41:25 Event: Project Shadow...?
2:42:31 Final Rush: Sonic/Final Chase: Shadow
2:49:20 Boss - Sonic vs Shadow
2:52:04 Event: Eggman's Final Gambit
2:53:46 Event: Professor Gerald's Revenge
3:00:15 Cannon's Core: Tails
3:02:12 Cannon's Core: Eggman
3:05:18 Cannon's Core: Rouge
3:06:50 Cannon's Core: Knuckles
3:08:22 Cannon's Core: Knuckles/Event: Promise to Maria
3:08:45 Cannon's Core: Sonic/Event: Promise to Maria
3:10:21 Boss - The Biolizard: Shadow
3:16:05 Boss - The Final Hazard: Super Sonic/Super Shadow
3:22:01 Ending Cutscene: ...sayonara Shadow the Hedgehog
3:25:50 Ending Credits
3:27:58 Bonus: Green Hill Zone
Sonic Adventure 2: Battle (c) Sonic Team
All Gameplay footage was recorded by me.
Recorded using Movavi Gecati, edited using Movavi Video Editor.
After the huge amount of support for the original Sonic Adventure, here is my take on Sonic Adventure 2's plot put together. I hope you all enjoy. Also, early viewers may find the quality low, the HD processing will eventually finish; so if it looks blurry at first, give it time.
I won't be doing Sonic Heroes next; but I may eventually do Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic 2006 down the road. Thank you again for the support on these projects.
Edit: I realize there is an error during the cutscene before Sonic and Shadow go Super. The Icon for Knuckles is accidentally placed over Sonic's.
Not judging you, because I think it’s already obvious for everyone that the sonic heroes’ stories happening in the same time, each level and boss.
@@Gamex-Frontiers Sonic Heroes technically makes no logical sense. Because with the exception of the Team Battles, the rest of the game has no consistency. All 4 teams can fight the same bosses, with the same voice lines, with the same situation, in the same area, at the same time... creating the issue of "HOW DO THEY NOT SEE EACH OTHER?" so attempting to say that all the Teams fight the same encounters feels contrived and silly when you think about it. That's the primary reason I'm not doing it.
Team Rose following Team Sonic makes perfect sense. And Team Dark's involvement too. Team Chaotix is a little more removed, but that's fine... the issue is that they all do the levels in the same order, with the same encounters. If they had maybe changed level order for each team, then it would've worked more, because it would've showed each team's progression in a different order.
@@Kohchu oh. My bad.
@@Gamex-Frontiers Tis no problem. You're right about it being obvious, it's almost silly how linear it is. But it also makes no sense.
"Egg Golem:
The Golem"
Ill never get over how hilarious that is. Lmao
2:43:01 seeing both Sonic and Shadow promise that they will fulfill their destinies at the same time is majestic.
TiL the blocks in final level actually have arrows telling you where they go so you don't have to guess.. i always assumed they just had random designs.
I never realized how much of this game is "Fuck the police" in hero story and dark story lmao.
Turns out, The police were just doing their jobs. Watch the did you know gaming video on Sonic Adventure 2.
You're not wrong
1:26:30 Man I always fought eggman with mad because The demonstration of the ark blowing up the moon didn't do much damage, Turns out he's mad because his connection with the President was cut off By sonic.
To be specific, he's mad because despite threatening everyone with the Eclipse Cannon; the President and the rest of the world didn't give into his demands. As Shadow said "our threats fell on deaf ears." They heard Eggman's demands, but they aren't taking him seriously, figuring they can stop him before he can fire it again.
Which, when you remember that Rouge is the Presidents Secret Agent; makes sense. She's in position to sabotage Eggman's efforts at any moment.
1:23 intro
2:07 iron gate (dark)
6:36 shadow debut
7:20 shadow vs. B-3× hot shot
10:48 wild canyon (hero)/ dry lagoon (dark)
14:27 city escape (hero)
18:50 radical highway (dark)
21:42 sonic vs F-61 big foot
24:14 sand ocean (dark)
30:34 egg quarters (dark)
34:59 lost colony (dark)
43:19 weapons bed (dark)
48:31 tails vs eggman
49:52 prison lane (hero)
50:12 security hall (dark)
52:44 rouge vs R-1 A flying dog
54:52 white jungle (dark)
55:07 metal harbor (hero)
58:22 sonic vs shadow
59:41 escape from prison island
1:03:20 pumpkin hill (hero)
1:10:44 mission street (hero)
1:15:37 aquatic minr (hero)
1:22:11 route 101 (hero)
1:28:25 route 280 (dark)
1:32:02 sky rail (dark)
1:35:16 hidden base (hero)
1:40:10 pyramid cave
1:45:14 death chamber
1:54:43 knuckles vs king boom boo
1:59:29 sonic vs egg golem
2:03:05 eggman vs egg golem
2:05:05 eternal engine (hero)
2:11:15 meteor herd (hero)/mad space (dark)
2:17:08 knuckles vs rouge
2:22:31 cosmic wall (dark)
2:30:26 crazy gadget
2:40:52 tail vs eggman
2:43:27 final rush (hero)/final chase (dark)
2:50:28 sonic vs. Shadow
3:00:22 cannon's core (last)
3:11:50 sonic & shadow vs the biolizard
3:18:30 super sonic & super shadow vs the finalhazard
3:28:13 green hill
2:03:06 I like how Knuckles messes a lever in both in SA1 and SA2. In SA1 Knuckles was controlling the Egg Carrier in Sky Deck!😂
Thanks for making this! Sega should've made the game play in full chronological order. I feel like it would've been way more satisfying as a fan of Sonic to start the game as Eggman and Shadow, and have to wait until City Escape in this sequence to play Sonic, rather than starting with him.
Well you can start the game with Iron gate and do city escape 15th
im currently working through this game (mainly because i'm trying to stream it to my friends, so i can only play it for like 2-3 hours at a time which im very grateful for but not usually how id binge playing it for like 5 hours or so) so i will come back to this later
i saw your other video, so i have faith this will be epic too!
sorry this is kinda a dumb comment lol
I often question which is canon gameplay-wise such as the Sonic vs Shadow, Tails vs Eggman & Knuckles vs Rouge fights?
In terms of the first Tails vs Eggman fight, I could imagine that Eggman wins, and that's why he says "I'll let you go" since he was in a hurry, and wasn't planning on getting involved with any of this (I think in the playthrough I made Tails the winner of both, which was dumb on my part)... as for the second battle, with how determined Tails was, it feels absurd to say Tails wasn't the winner... especially since his victory does see Eggman steal the emerald; which makes a LOT more sense.
Sonic vs Shadow in the jungle, it makes a lot more sense for Shadow to win, since Sonic was charging in on impulse and had no idea what Shadow was capable of; thus leading to a defeat. With them only breaking the fight off because the island is about to blow up. But, the fight was enough for Shadow to pay attention to Sonic, as we see in the following cutscenes. And of course, Sonic vs Shadow on the arc, having Sonic win makes logical sense from a gameplay standpoint.
As for Knuckles and Rouge... I don't actually think it majorly matters, since both scenes end the same way anyways. So, the match is technically more or less a draw.
@@Kohchu all that matters is whatever happens in the cutscenes on both sides & last story it’s canon
@@Kohchu i think in the first sonic vs shadow fight was a draw despite shadow having the advantage i see that fighg like goku sjj2 vs majin vegeta sjj2 personally
It's pretty easy to tell it you watch the cutscenes afterwards
Tail vs Eggman 1: A draw- both of them stop fighting because they have something else they'd rather be doing
Sonic vs Shadow 1: A draw- both are tired but have to leave once they realize the island is about to explode
Knuckles vs Rouge: A draw- Both are tired and Knuckles saves Rouge from almost falling so they sorta just forgive each other
Tails vs Eggman 2: Tails wins- He beats Eggman but while he's distracted from mourning Sonic's "death" Eggman recovers and leaves with the Emerald
Sonic vs Shadow 2: Sonic wins- Shadow's purpose was to kill Sonic and stop him from reaching the cannon but as we can see Sonic is not only alive after the battle but he destroys the cannon.
This is how the game always should have been. There aren't two stories it's just one so why did they do that? In Sonic Adventure 1 and Sonic 06 characters actually have their own stories and you can run in to them wondering what's their story. That doesn't happen in SA2 or in Heroes where in that game you only run into the others for a extremely pointless battle.
3:11:16 why CZcams deleted the sound effects video of Biolizard?
I Would've Put Sand Ocean Before Radical Highway Because I Think The News Are Live And It's Happening Right Now
Sonic runs through City Escape during the day, Shadow runs through Radical Highway as it gets dark, Sonic fights the Gun mech, and then Shadow shows up immediately afterwards. It's clear this all happened in one quick string. In addition, Eggman returns to his base when it's already night time; so while I agree to an extent, I believe the News wasn't live, it was edited and published only sometime afterwards, as the shots aren't done in a cohesive way.
oh, okay.
I agree here tbh, the news are happening live, and Sonic could have fought the gun mech after sand ocean too whil shadow is in radical highway, that's just my point of few tho
I think it makes sense for radical highway to be first, since Shadow is already waiting in the colony when Eggman gets there. So he stole the emerald and went straight to the colony, while Eggman saw it on the news later. If Shadow had still been down on earth at that point I think Eggman would have beat him there.
Shouldn’t he threaten Amy before calling Tails and Sonic to the room, since he’s asking for their location from her? That’s a total nitpick though, I understand editing can be a very tiring process, especially projects like this. You still did great!
I would've figured that too, but the reason they aligned that way, actually comes down to the in game clock. I was using the countdown to determine the order in which certain clips should go, as Sonic Adventure 2 does divide events by that clock, and a good chunk of the time, it works great for lining clips up together. Despite this, there are a few moments that still feel strange.
According to the in game countdowns; when Sonic approaches the Cannon and gets the message from Tails, it says 45 Minutes, but when Eggman completes Cosmic Wall and captures Amy, it's 33 Minutes; so I aligned them that way, despite how... awkward it makes things play out...
@@Kohchu You are correct to assume that it´s weird because the game clock is using the same time as it does in the hero side story. The same cutscene plays (sonic getting launched out of the ark) at 33 minutes before the cannon launches in the hero side story.
In the dark side story it also says 33 minutes but this is when eggman captures amy unlike the hero side story which is the point which Sonic enters the room. The time stamp is just shown strangely because sonic getting launched out of the ark and amy getting captured are the same scene (in the dark story).
Amy does get captured (at some point) before that scene where Eggman tells tails to get sonic through Crazy Gadget and Sonic enters the room at 33 minutes before the Cannon is launched. It´s a very strange framing of events but that time stamp is misleading. They probably should have split them into two seperate scenes with their own timestamps but they´re all one big scene in the dark side story.
Can you redux the stories of Sonic Adventure 2 (Dreamcast style) in chronological order at the same time but with unused dialogue lines added too?
I did Sonic Adventure 2 with the Dreamcast Restoration mod. I do believe that fixes the majority of the things. Some lines might be missing, but... maybe down the line.
@@Kohchu You really did? I hardly noticed.
Correction on my part. I originally wanted to do the PC port with the Dreamcast Restoration mod, like I did Sonic Adventure 1, but the PC port of Sonic Adventure 2 has a lot of oddities and issues; such as de-syncing under odd circumstances, plus I couldn't get a controller to work with it properly for whatever reason. I also tried to get the Dreamcast version working on emulation, but that had it's own issues.
I finally decided to just record it using the Gamecube version: Sonic Adventure 2: Battle, because honestly. There isn't that much wrong with that port, aside from missing the Big Cameos and a couple of small adjustments here and there to cutscenes.
@@Kohchu So you decided not to by throwing in the towel on that
In a sense. It was easier to do and the differences are tiny. Maybe down the line I'll look into doing something with the Dreamcast Restoration mod and SA2, but unlike the original SA, I don't find myself often wanting to go back to SA2.
2:52:10 I always found this to be a chronological error because before final chase robotnik says he has the emerald and is going to the canon right now and that takes place before sonic destroyed the canon (obviously) but here it shows he was defeated but in his diary entrie before the second tails foght he literally said he would make tails join sonic so and in his one before the first tails fight he literally said killing him would be a pleasure so why didn't he kill him idk I guess he was going to kill him later after he fired the canon and the only thing is is that this is the only character fight were the winner is weird like all of them end in a tie (first tails/robotnik fight and knuckles/Rouge fight) or someone wins (Both Sonic/Shadow fights Sonic won) so I think Robotnik won still even with this cutscene existing
I think the issue is we don't get a full picture of how much time passes in this scene.
For Eggman's victory. He contacts Shadow to warn him someone is approaching the Eclipse Cannon, and that he has the Emerald. This is what kicks of Final Chase...
For Tails victory, he immediately speaks to Sonic on the com, which implies that Final Chase/Rush, and the battle all happened almost immediately after Sonic chaos controlled out, which doesn't make sense.
This implies that that Shadow had already started Final Chase and fought Sonic before Eggman and Tails' fight had even ended, which makes things even more confusing. Even if we factor in Eggman grabbing the emerald, retreating, contacting Shadow... it still wouldn't make sense, because if you put that there; it implies Tails spoke into the radio, telling Sonic he won... and then Sonic beats Final Rush while Shadow beats Final Chase; they fight, and only then does Sonic contact Tails while Eggman escapes with the Emerald...
Honestly, I used the in game clock for the timer and even trying to make it work... there are undeniably issues. Even if I sliced this cutscene to pieces, and tried to rearrange it, the only thing that makes sense... is the implication that Eggman and Tails fight lasted the same length it took Sonic and Shadow to beat Final Rush/Chase, and have their final battle... which in Gameplay is most certainly not shown.
@@Kohchuyeah man, don't worry you did your best with what it gives. There's just really no getting around that part, but everything else is fucking great. You got me as a subscriber!
I think this huge error could be remedied by assuming that Eggman spoke to Shadow before the fight between Tails and Eggman began. While it doesn't display this way in cutscenes because Eggman does tell Shadow after being Tails this seems like it's just a minor oversight by the story writers. I don't think the entire story was written out in chronological order before development so when this part of the game came up they decided to have Eggman tell Shadow after being Tails for the post-fight scene adding dramatic effect while accidentally creating a time paradox.
Shadow and Sonic rush to the Eclipse cannon against each other and fight, during this time Tails and Eggman are fighting. It ends in a draw, Tails radios over and Sonic replies at the end of his fight yet Eggman tells Shadow to get to the eclipse cannon after the fight already took place. Either A. This is an oversight, or B There is extra information we are missing which could be the key to making it fit they way you did. I think the only way this could make sense is if Tails and Eggman fought twice.
Eggman believes he's bested tails and radios in to Shadow to warn him somebody is approaching the eclipse cannon. Then a second fight starts where Tails gets a second wind and defeats Eggman which takes so long Sonic is able to best Shadow and then gets the message over the radio. Perhaps the reason why he even sends the message over the radio in the first place is holding out hope Sonic survived the pod explosion somehow and believes after hearing Eggman claim somebody is on their way to the cannon that it was Sonic, otherwise there is no reason for Tails to send that message over the radio when believing Sonic exploded.@@Kohchu
would be better if you also upload a version that skips all levels that don't have cutscenes during them.
That would kinda just be a cutscene compilation, which already exists on CZcams. The point of the video is to show the idea of all these events taking place at a similar time frame. The gameplay sorta allows some of this to bridge the gap, as some cutscenes have to start before the gameplay ends or vice versa.
Stuff like Sonic and Shadow running Final Rush/Chase at the same time wouldn't be conveyed properly if it was just the cutscenes.
well that's up to you, but the point would be that it's in order for both stories, despite being mostly cutscenes.@@Kohchu
It might help to put thumbnails in your videos
I actually did make custom Thumbnails for the Sonic Adventure games. I'm not exactly an expert at making icons, so I kept them simple, mostly just a shot of the logo with some effects to overlay other images.
Surprise you didn’t do heroes
Heroes doesn't really have a story that makes sense to do this tbh. All 4 stories are going on at the same time, and the only times they have any connectivity is during the Team Fights which don't even make sense. Then there's the issue of all of them fighting the same bosses, in the same location.
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