The Draco Malfoy Obsession: character analysis
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Bas boys rewind: it's time to analyse the 'bad boy' trope and why we find this kind of persona so appealing- using Draco Malfoy as the prime example. From the character's birth to his surprising popularity on the internet, this video is a must-watch for Harry Potter fans and anyone interested in the psychology of popular characters!
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Did you ever ship Dramione/Drarry and why? I'm genuinely curious.
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I honestly love Drarry, I just really like the character dynamic and it feels healthier in some way than Dramione, just my opinion tho
I didn’t ship anyone . I just watch the Harry Potter movies for what they are
Absolutely not I really hated it 🤢🤮
@@uninspired484 its definitely less heinous than dramione hahaha
@@angelaholmes8888 😭😭🤣🤣
The way nearly everyone hated Cho Chang for grieving and then defends Draco’s actions says a lot.
Precisely.
People give that girl such a hard time
And Percy and Marietta too... Many people find Draco and Snape redeemable, but seems to hate Percy and Marietta wtf o.O
I really can't grasp why people hate her?! I always saw her and Harry's relationship as not meant to be, because she was grieving and he was an awkward asshole teenager. What has the poor girl done wrong?!
The problem mainly came from JK herself. I mean, it even started with how “Cho Chang” was named, then Cho got vilified for being too jealous that Harry (her bf at that time) spent too much time with Hermione.
There's nothing wrong with liking characters who are morally bad *in fiction*, and also nothing wrong with shipping whatever "toxic" ship you want to ship, as long as you can differentiate that from how things should work in real life. Hope this helps 👍
I agree, we all fancy a little toxic fanfiction here and there
Exactly. Which is why it would be very hard for 10, 12 or even 16 year-old children to realize that, and the books and movies were directed towards that audience, that's the problem.
"love should be easy and can be" this is so true. What is going on with thinking it's a good thing if a guy is picking on you? such a good point about the whole bully romance attitude
Yep; a guy picking on you or making things difficult for no reason is a huge red flag for what’s to come 😬 it can only get worse from there
Absolutely yes
I think it might stem from a time in which people did not have much choice when it came to partners. He picks on you = he's interested so better deal with it or end up without a spouse. Not much room for nuance. But I might be mistaken, that is just a thought I have being raised in a pretty close religious village community and then experienced all the choice in the world moving into a big city AND having the internet.
Crazy now that you think about it, Draco really doesn't express a single positive quality in the series. I mean i guess he doesn't want to kill harry or Dumbledore but not wanting someone dead who's never done anything to u is not a high bar😂
The bar is in hell
Draco may be nasty and entitled, yet Tom Felton seems like a genuinely chill guy. He even sat the Sorting Hat quiz, and ended up in Gryffindor! ❤️🦁
he seems sooo sweet
Yeah he seems like a nice guy I need to read his memoir
i'm still watching the video, but something that never sat right with me was people trying to ship draco with hermione LIKE... he was HORRIBLE towards hermione and even if he had a good redemption arc, a romantic relationship between an oppressor and an oppressed person is just not it 😭 draco was an actual bully to her, and you don't just get over that 😭 i think people have this weird perception of draco in their heads that he was actually a lot better than he was actually written? like isn't draco the one that broke hermione's teeth before the yule ball?? that man was not good at all and I'm so tired of people trying to act like draco is a Mr. darcy type (like you said) rather than the terrible person he actually was
Because people like to ship all different kinds of relationships lol. Just because you think a ship is interesting, doesn't mean you think it would be good in real life.
@@calliope3237 that’s all well and good, but the issue is that THAT perception of him and their relationship bleeds into their perception of the actual work - we shouldn’t act like draco is this great character and misunderstood bad boy in the REAL work
@@interludemeghana The reason a ship like Dramione exists is because Rowling was...well, kind of lazy. She wrote only ONE major female character for most of the series and then paired her up with a character she'd been slowly degrading over the course of the series (Poor Ron), which naturally would upset a lot of people. If she'd introduced Luna and Tonks sooner and done a better job with Ginny (keeping her as a major character after Book 2) and Cho (do a better job with her character all around) and make Hermione less prominent, this wouldn't have happened.
I think a lot of us didn't care as much about Draco specifically - it was more that he was really the only main look into Slytherin house we got, and a lot of us found the concept of Slytherin interesting, but very flat in execution. We rarely see any bad guys from any house other than Slytherin, and NO good guys from Slytherin (excluding adults) which just feels like very poor world-building as fans have gotten older and gained more nuanced opinions and analysis on media. With the first few books focusing specifically on Hogwarts and the school life with the wider wizarding world and school elements taking a back seat only in later books/movies, Draco being the only named character in Slytherin who isn't a *complete* caricature means he just kinda got all the headcanons about potential good/conflicted Slytherins glommed onto him.
i think draco was labeled more as the misunderstood tortured soul 😩😩 then the bad boy⛓️👹
Yes I agree, like the misunderstood bully
As someone who always gravitated to Slytherins (my boy Snape being forever number one) what frustrated me about the lack of redemption for Draco specifically is that it is there in the subtext and foreshadowing that it would happen.
Then it didn’t.
There is no nuance to Slytherins or Death Eaters which there should be because its build up in the lore. Thats why i wanted Draco to have one, and there for i read fanfic
There is really no subtext to Draco's redemption until the last two books. And it wasn't really redemption, it was him being too scared to commit to what he supposedly wanted to do for years. He never once showed any interest or understanding for the heroes goals or desires, other than his own safety and that of his parents. If anything, his moment of recognizing Harry but lying in book seven was extremely out of character from him. Especially because in that same scene he was more than happy to turn Hermione to Bellatrix.
Rowling was kind of lazy, bullies like Draco are very common characters in British Kids Literature (Ethel Hallow from Worst Witch is the prototype for Draco) but she had no interest in developing him beyond being a bully.
In all the discourse surrounding Draco’s redemption, I rarely see someone straight up say “there is no redemption arc.” This is refreshing. The way people write about Draco, you’d think he were Jes Mariano.
people are out here acting like draco became a charity worker 🤣🤣😭😭
@@SerenaSkybourne Draco handing a Pepsi to the cops at the local protest 😂
@@BlackXSunlight even that is a stretch 😭😭🤣🤣
contemporary series or movies are full of romanticization of villains, be they male or female, professional or lonely criminals, darkgrey figures, etc etc.
I just genuinely hate the Dramonie ship because it's so toxic, Draco bullied Hermione and treated her terribly. People seem to think that if Hermione had to choose between Ron who treats her very kindly and will fight her battles for her when she can't, and Draco who calls her such foul names and just generally treats her terribly, she'd choose Draco. Every Dramione shipper I've seen bash Ron and I don't understand why.
I genuinely think one of the reasons is classism and thinking Hermione deserves "better" than the stinky poor redhead boy, ignoring that Ron is the only character who challenges her openly and engages her in debate that they mutually enjoy and consider a key part of their relationship (any negativity to their arguments, I think it's misconstrued by Harry who is very conflict-averse from living with the Dursleys). like tbh the Dramione fanfic dynamic where they argue and have this back and forth IS her canon dynamic with Ron. but he's not as hot so he's garbage now!
I loved Draco for the same reason I loved Snape and Sirius. Every time you read their name, you knew it would be a good page.
The one thing I loved about the cursed child is Draco did not pass his father’s beliefs onto his son. That was a nice redemption for me.
Yyyyeah, Draco was never interpreted by anyone as sexy or mysterious until the films, afaik, when the cast got a bit into their teens. So I think people are just into the actor's aesthetic or something, and project their own script/fantasy onto it. Feels like very little from the canon character's mannerisms fits the bad boy persona 😅cus Malfoy has always been plainly pathetic and cowardly, whiny and smarmy, as far as you can get from a "sexy" brooding badboy.
Edit: He's basically just a spoiled brat.
Yes! I only read the books because I never liked the movies. I can't see why he would have attractive qualities. Must all have been Tom Felton's charisma!
Nah. If you look through some old archives on fanfic websites you'll find draco fics that were (for the time) popular. Before the films and definitely before Tom was old enough to have an understanding of his looks
The really hilarious thing is that so many people think Draco is some Edgy "bad boy" type.
Really? The guy is a total kiss up to those in power, whether it's Snape or Umbridge or Voldemort. He always caves to authority and follows who he thinks is the strongest. He's a total follower.
Ron is the actual "Bad Boy" that these people claim Draco is. He's the one always breaking rules and thumbing his nose at authority.
In the communities I’m in we have a joking saying “if they are ugly and Evil they are a Villain, but if they are hot they are Morally Gray”.
Also on the Draco obsession early on, I agree he was a bad dude, but I think the idea that a lot of his hatred of Harry comes from him wanting to have been friends with him and kinda still wanting to but not admitting it. I imagine if Harry had been friendly to him earlier on they would have been friends or at least friendly. Though it does not forgive all the bullying and racism he has throughout the books.
The halo effect is def a result of ppl who grew up watching the movies, bc the books make a point of telling you that Draco is unattractive - but blond and thin does a lot for some ppl I guess
Yeah they mentioned Draco having pointy features in the book a lot and sneering so he hardly seems attractive, but Tom Felton got a lot of girls’ attention haha
Unfortunately true my mother thought she could change my father's horrible ways she wasted years with him he was constantly cheating on her and stealing from her to feed his drug addiction
Not to mention, Draco is pretty much a H*tler Youth with a wizard paintjob.
Why do people keep saying sandy is the only one that changes. Danny is constantly finding sports to join to become the good guys she wanted to date. He wears one at the end of the film. They both changed (literally) outfits at the end.
Maybe because he quickly forgoes it when he sees Sandy in the leather outfit at the end.
I have never been into bad boys that much. I had a crush on Ron in both the books and movies instead. I think that Malfoy was basically a side character in the books . I found him annoying in the books. In the movies however Tom Felton show very much charisma with that little screen time he had so I can understand why other girls were so opposed of him.
I think Draco’s redemption arc was robbed in that deleted scene
I read the books growing up and I never romanticized Draco and Hermione… BUT when the movies came out, the relationship between Ron and Hermione was just thrown in there, and we learned that Hermione’s actress had a crush on Draco’s actor… I think all of those factors PLUS JK Rowling hinting that Draco was going to have a redemption arc manifested the longing of these teenage girls.
1 - I think that no matter what book series comes to life and who the author wanted you to root for, so much of public opinion is based on the real life actors chemistry on screen. Ron and Hermione? Made me want to throw up in my mouth because it was so clear that those actors were basically siblings.
2 - There were plenty of times when Ron was Hermione’s bully too. He was the one that caused Hermione to hide in the bathroom and almost get killed by the troll, made her cry at the Yule Ball, and constantly used her for homework. Ron cared about Hermione, yes, but he did not respect her. And he was supposed to be her best friend. So compared to her best friend that bullies her and uses her, a famous quidditch player that’s sweet but is written off as dumb… how can you not hope to see her with some that’s better than those two options?
3 - Hermione is considered the Golden Girl, and yet she’s supposed to end up with the guy that leaves her and Harry when they’re trying to find the horcruxes? Emma Watson is an incredible person, we wanted an equal for her. While Draco in the books is cruel and Draco in the movies is cowardly, there were multiple times where Draco was mentioned to be 2nd in the class compared to Hermione. I think we all just wanted someone that was her equal. Plus we wanted Emma Watson to be happy.
4 - Draco wasn’t supposed to be charismatic in the books. He was supposed to be a one dimensional villian. Tom Felton was one of the only child actors that was trained in acting when the movies started. His charm in interviews, plus the complexity he brought to the character helped the audience see the big picture. That Draco, just like the golden trio, was a child. We have no idea what happened at home and what he could’ve been without his parents.
5 - Jk Rowling gives Draco an inner battle between his duty to his family and what’s morally right and you can see hints of that in her writing with the Hermione’s constant focus on Draco’s state during the 6th year, him not killing Dumbledore, him not identifying Harry when they’re caught and brought to Malloy manor. He was even supposed to be redeemed in the final movie battle and throw the elder wand to Harry. I think that Draco’s acts of bravery weren’t outright and flashy, but they were very real choices that could have gotten him tortured or killed. I would argue that Draco was in a worse position than Harry because Draco’s family were in such close contact with Voldemort. I think there’s a misconception that V only tortures those he deems unworthy. But in truth, he tortures his followers as well and arguably more frequently. I think Rowling had decided Draco’s fate in her head by the books, but ignored that Draco had character development and complexity in the movie that wasn’t present in the books.
I’m not saying that the Bad Boy trope is healthy. I am not saying that at all, nor do I condone Draco’s actions growing up. I’m saying that Draco isn’t one dimensional and he didn’t change just because of Hermione. He had very real character development and was born into an impossible situation. People can do horrible things AND people can learn from them. I think we see the seedlings of that in the movies.
Overall I’m obviously very protective of this ship, but I just don’t think that people really understand the real reason why people shipped them in the first place. I think it’s about wanting an equal for really the only girl in the books that was fully fleshed out. These are the people that understand that war isn’t black and white like a Gryffindor would believe. In real life, there’s plenty of grey. And even if people don’t understand, sometimes you need to do the best thing for you.
Oh my god I wrote an essay. I just needed to defend the girlies for a second.
So you are basically saying that this ship exists because the movies poorly adapted the books.
Also, even if I didn't like the Ron/Hermione ship. You cannot even start to compare Ron's and Draco's treatment of Hermione at all. Draco wished and hoped for her literal death several times, called her slurs and even in his last important scene, where he was "morally gray" he just wanted Harry alive and didn't give a damn about Ron and Hermione's deaths.
Not you dragging RON BILLIUS WEASLEY in this manner.
Jkjk. Although fr I don't think you're presenting Ron fairly in your comment.
Especially since the Hermione you're talking about is the movie version of her, which literally removed all her flaws and hyped her up to the point where she was taking other people's lines and actions, especially Ron's. I especially get fired up when people talk about the troll incident because he wasn't shit talking her to a group of classmates like the movies made him do. He was literally just ranting to his best friend about how this girl is showing off by correcting him so she can get praised, at his expense. You have to remember that Hermione as a character wasn't a very likable person. There's a reason why she didn't make any friends till the boys. She overheard what was a private convo and got upset. Ironically if it wasn't for the troll, she would likely have been friendless throughout the series lol, since that was the catalyst for her friendship with them.
Ron unfortunately gets shit on by everyone being honestly one of the more characters that feel human. Jealousy, insecurity etc. Are very human traits. Hermione and Harry often receive grace from the other characters, over arching narrative, fandom and even JK herself when they do shitty things ( and Hermione especially does a lot of shitty things that she never apologizes for or deals with the consequences)
The same grace isn't given to Ron. Not by anyone. So when he messes up, everyone hates him. BUT he always ALWAYS makes it up. He always apologizes, faces the consequences (to the point where you feel like they're overdoing it with the punishment) he always comes back and is the only character in the story that you can actually see have a character arc. You can literally see him become a little better each book. With the way he deals with others and the way he sees himself. Hermione is literally the same person that she was in the beginning except she breaks rules now (when it's convenient for her) and has two friends. She often treated Ron badly as well, to the point of cruelty. Remember how she acted when scabbers was thought to be killed by her cat? Remember all those times she diminished his intelligence and accomplishments throughout the series? Remember the entirety of sixth year? The canaries. And she was like seventeen then acting that way. Ron was fourteen during the Yule ball scene and he wasn't as half as nasty as she was, even with him giving her the cold shoulder in the beginning of their sixth year fight, which honestly happened because she was trying to make him jealous with victor krum letter but nonetheless) He was always praising her intelligence throughout the series and generally hyping her up. I can literally think of one or two times where she does the same.
Side note: I feel JK a definitely started butchering his character halfway across the series. There was this theory that she had a thing for her friend (who Ron's character was heavily influenced by) and he didn't reciprocate.
@@habibamusse You're not wrong, Ron's character basically starts getting the short end of the stick in the books as well beginning with Goblet of Fire. It wasn't just a movie thing
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When people say they are into Draco Malfoy it means one of two things; 1. They’re into fanfiction Draco or 2. They’re into Tom Felton. Canon Draco is nothing but a scared, spoiled, insecure, entitled bully that I guarantee everyone would hate if they met irl.
I always felt that malfoys anger towards hermione and the mudblood comments were to mask his anger at himself for being attracted to her and what his pureblood parents would think of him. Half blood prince was my favorite movie because of the way tom felton played the awful conflict he felt between following voldermorts orders and knowing on some level it was the wrong thing to do. Felton seems really nice irl
There is not a single one indication of this in any page of the book whatsoever. Draco openly sees Hermione as someone who doesn't even deserve to live.
I once thought I could fix a "misunderstood villain" aka man who lured me into a super toxic relationship that crushed my self-esteem like dry leaves. It was devastating and it took me so much effort, strength , tike and tears to piece mywelf back together. However I still love that trope in fiction. I just like the idea that me as a person is good enough to turn someone into a better version of themselves. I love the tension and anticipation it carries. But I know it only works in fiction and from today's perspective that's completely fine. I love my dark fantasy and romance books who live by the enemies to lovers trope and I have a great time. In reality though I'd run from any men who might fit into this scheme.😅
Wow that’s interesting. Well done for getting out.
I need to se more of the misunderstood bad boy meaning the boy who is always seen as a bad influence by authority figures and putting a label on him, but he was never bad in the first place. This can go with female characters too.
Adam Groff from Sex Education on Netflix is the best bully to romance/ bad boy to good guy execution in recent media history.
Also, I wanted to mention that in the HP movies the Director had favorite characters and would make changes to the plot to give his interpretation of characters over canon. That’s why Hermione gets a lot of Ron’s scene in the movie.
Serena, I love this topic....THANKYOU!
Thankyou for watching! Grateful ❤️
23:20 it wasn’t about the glory really, it was because Voldemort has threatened to kill Draco’s parents (they were basically his hostages) if he doesn’t kill Dumbledore, I feel like Draco was trying to find a silver lining in this dreadful situation so he pretended that he sees it as an honor to be chosen by the Dark Lord when in reality he hated Voldemort at that point
Exactly
the main reason i like him (or like the nonproblematic fandom idea of him) is because he does so many dramatic, insane and extra things like hiding in trees and composing songs and diy-ing magic buttons. i know that part of the fandom like him because hes on one side conservative and rich and on the other very very weird. sadly that makes me forget sometimes that in canon he was definitely awful and bigoted and these traits shoulnt be excused or romantisized. the fandom today doesnt care about the canon too much since jk rowlings bs, so i see some potrayals of him as less of the hot bad boy bully with a redemption arc whos misunderstood and more of like this kind of weird little guy who actually has friends and a life outside of bullying harry and issues with his father or whatever. but your video is absolutely valid, like the main romantization of draco is absolutely problematic and shipping him with hermione is kind of wrong. i guess you should be aware of how he is in canon and make the conscious decision to change/redeem that and not ignore or exuse it or brush it under the rug
10:53 "so your gonna suffer but your gonna be happy about it"😂
I’m dyingggggg
I really didn’t like Draco Malfoy
Me neither
yeah he was annoying ngl
The "but love is hard" trope kept me trapped in an emotinoally and psychologically abusive marriage for 14 years. Yes, being in a relationship CAN be hard, but it shouldn't be hard ALL THE TIME. If you're ALWAYS sad. If you're ALWAYS fighting. If there is ALWAYS toxic behavior, cheating, power struggles, etc. there is SOMETHING WRONG with that relationship. It's not romantic. It's not a fairytale where love will eventually win. You weren't created to be a punching bag. You're not meant to be "The Savior" for your partner. If this is your relationship, GET OUT! It's not worth sacrificing yourself to satisfy some bad boy redemption fantasy.
I’m obsessed with what Draco Malfoy COULD BE, if he were written by an actually capable author. I love Draco because he’s a sniveling coward that barks loud but rolls over like a dog at the slightest sign of struggle. He’s a bully, prideful to his own detriment, and needlessly shitty to Harry out of jealousy. I have ZERO CLUE how this wimp is commonly viewed as a bad boy, he’s very much the opposite, while also not being a good guy. And those are the exact reasons I adore this character. He’s very flawed and I want to see his struggle to become a better person. (Like, really, really, struggle.)
Also Im a fan of Drarry because they’re toxic and obsessed with each other and it would be so messy and the development for Draco would be amazing. It would conflict with all his ideals, and I’d eat that up. Also, their canon love interests have as much personality as a cheese grater and are barely relevant/have no chemistry, so maybe I’m in such support since this is the only Harry or Draco ship with plausible chemistry.
Him and Hermoine- absolutely not. That’s disgusting, you should never ship a racist with their victim. While in Harry’s case, you always got the feeling that despite Draco’s harassment of Harry, Harry always had an upper hand, evening it out.
Loved the video!!! Thank you ❤
I think the reason is that the "Bad Boy" stereotype is so deeply ingrained into our perception of stories and especially in stories about teens, that when it is not present, we tend to look for it in some place.
Draco Malfoy was never ment to be a sympathetic character, he is arrogant, classist, elitist and narcissist.
He is a coward and just like his parents, an opportunist.
He is a literal naz! child who on multiple occasions wished for the deaths of not only the main trio but all of the muhhle borns.
Yet people like to see him as this tortured, leather clad, motorcycle badass bad boy who just needs a little true love to redeem himself.
And that extends to Snape too.
The brilliance of this series in my opinion, is that even the true Bad Boy Sirius, mets his demise because of his bigotry and anger. And the book explains it, spells it for us, his desire for rebelion, for anarchy, his anger, his recklesness, his resentment, is what killed him.
And we still want to redeem Draco.
Jason Isaacs (the actor playing Lucius) wanted to make Draco more likeable and decided to act the way he did to make Draco more sympathetic. I guess that one decision had many consequences 😂
Dramione shipper here since I have memory ❤ I fall for the ship when I was a teenager T.T
It makes me beyond sick to know that real life serial killers and murderers get love letters etc in prison and get admiration on social media etc.
Chris Watts have a lot of female fans apparently. Cause who wouldn't want to introduce his parents to a monster who strangled his pregnant wife and sweet baby girls to death. 🤢Absolutely vile. It's a phenomena I could never understand.
Such an interesting video Serena!
There is actually a deleted scene from the last movie, Draco throwing Harry his wand which was kind of a redemption moment. But yeah it’s not in the actual movie but it can be found
my favorite bad boys are damon salvator and theon greyjoy.
damon has so much charm that its difficult to dislike him
Yep draco was no bad boy just a bully and really irritating
I fell into Draco Tik Tok without having seen or read Harry Potter. So, when I finally watched the movies, I was FLABBERGHASTED. A, because Draco had no screen time, and, B, because he was awful 😩 Tik Tok made him out to be such a better person
I know we don't talk about the Cursed Child, but the one thing I did like about it was how they handled Draco because I always wished he had gotten some kind of redemption at the end.
I could listen to you call out dumbshit boys for hours 👑💕
To be fair, Ted Bundy was known to be an attractive man who used his good looks to manipulate people. So I think that casting choice was a good one in terms of storytelling.
1:20 she doesn’t spread any anti hate towards anyone whatsoever, she’s said that men can’t be women and vice versa.
1:45 her reaction doesn’t ruin anything.
So many people hold Danny Zuko up as a classic example of a bad boy and compare many of the toxic current ones to him. But what I feel like many forget/miss is that Dannt changes for Sandy. He joins the track team, something he used to make fun of, and gets a letterman jacket to show he respects her. Is it perfect, no. But he acknowledges issues and takes steps to try and fix things.
I never viewed Draco as a bad boy, but rather as a spoiled brat who then ended up in a bad, desperate situation in books 6 and 7. I do think he did things that showed he could change/maybe wasn't all bad (lying about Harry being himself, being kind to Luna when she was in the dungeon).
I think it's more Prince Zuko from Avatar who is held up as the gold standard of how to make a villain into a heroic character. But the big difference is that right from the start we saw Zuko was a conflicted character and not some 1-D Jerk.
It didn't help that Draco was played by Tom Felton in the movies..... Beautiful people always get away with more.
Movie Draco is fresher in my mind and I do feel bad for him near the end of the movies. I kinda always feel like Draco was a child and he was under pressure from his parents and later Voldemort, what else was he supposed to do? He knew damn well he would get killed (and probably his parent's too).
yk i dont think i've ever actually heard anyone call draco a bad boy. idk how i missed this, maybe i was living under a rock. but it's laughable to call him that, he was just an asshole. the narrative wasn't even trying to paint him to be a bad boy, it was painting him as a bully and a selfish coward (just like his father is, just like basically every slytherin is painted to be in some variation--even snape was selfish and not a good person and he's like the 'best' slytherin in the book).
the love for draco has to stem from books 6-7. I never thought he was a bad boy, but i always felt a so much empathy for the entire malfoy family (draco and his parents) whenever i saw them in scenes with voldemort (or yk saw draco crying at school in book 6). because they sucked, right? but they were so clearly in so far over their heads and by the end they legit didn't really want voldemort around either lol, they just wanted to go and live their lives. i could just feel the absolute state of fear they were all living in and they weren't good people, but i don't know. i just kind of wanted to see them be freed from that. it's like this weird mixture of pity and knowing i shouldn't really feel empathy for these people, and yet i do. and draco especially because he's only 16 when this begins happening and so he's been living in this absolute terror for 2 years at the least by the time voldemort dies. like, okay, he's not a good person, but he was 16 being forced into all these situations. he had to go along with whatever his parents wanted and his parents had to go along with whatever voldemort wanted. like he's a traumatised kid and i find that so sad even though he's also not a good person.
like when you see him terrified and crying and worried about his parent's lives (i think he says "he'll kill me, he'll kill my whole family") , that gives you a brief look at his humanity and you see he's also just a scared kid at that point. but you only get a taste, so you're left with this desire for more that's never fulfilled. i never wrote draco fics, but i've been into a lot of other characters that are in a similar vein, where you see a peek of humanity---this spark of something you can relate to amongst this cesspool of selfish/bad/cowardly/etc etc. and it shows you something the character could be if they just yk weren't also a terrible person lol. and for some reason that stuff just works, it gives you the "what if" and the "what if" is a very powerful force when u be a fanfic writer😌
i actually think draco has the potential to be an interesting character. or he is an interesting character(?) but also yk like all the slytherins are kinda all made to be bad, so the potential is kind of stripped away. i would have liked to know more about him and what he became after the battle of hogwarts because he went through all this trauma and witnessed all these things pureblood extremist wizards did and he was in this state of fear for years as a teenager because of it--like he wasn't on voldemorts side really. he was just terrified the whole time. like i'm not saying he'd have become a good person and he most certainly should and would never be friends, let alone boyfriend, to any of harry's gang, but i'd have just liked to see what he chose to tell his kids about harry and stuff like that (and ik we had the cursed child, but whatever happened in that doesn't count bc that was literally just glorified fanfiction).
Never was a fan of chuck bass hated he ended up with blair 😠
I like the character of Draco Malfoy, but certainly not in a romantic way - he's just an interesting character, especially in the later books where he goes through a crisis over the belief system he was brought up with, which is shattered into a thousand pieces. Too bad it was all done very much in the background.
I am thoroughly convinced modern fans haven't read the books or actively ignore the books canon reality and combine the movies and books.
HP fans now create Fan Canon or Fanon to make the story nuanced, but it isnt real in the slightest
The Draco being a good guy is nullified entirely for me when in COS he calls Hermione a Mudblood. When the first message is left, he says, "You'll be next mudbloods," to Harry, Ron and Hermione. When Harry and Ron sneak into the Slytherin Commonroom, after talking to Malfoy, he actually says that it's only a matter of time until someone dies and he literally hopes that Hermione dies next. He openly wishes one of his classmates will be killed.
This is the weird ship, people go on about. H+D is just creepy. Also, Draco isnt a bad boy. He a spoilt rich kid who is like to dob people in for infractions. Hhas more in common with Randall from Recess than say James Dean, the poster bad boy. He looks like a rich school boy, but he is a coward and a bully. Harry is a badboy, James and Sirius are bad boys. He'll Fred and George are bad boys. Draco is a bully and coward.
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This is unrelated but PLEASE consider watching Marvelous Mrs Maisel I’d love to hear your thoughts on it!
You said to state a bad boy in the comments so, John Constantine from DC comics. I feel like he’s an excellent example of a bad boy done well.
The bad boy persona only works as long as the guy is good looking and somewhat charming - no one would root for him if he was average/below average looking and nasty all the time 😅
One day I just notice how the Beast of Beauty and beast shouldn't even be able to break the curse because he didn't achieve everything the sorceress called out for, he is not less shallow, aggressive, down look his servants (dk if this is the right word, sorry)! He felt in love for a girl that treat him well and was beautiful. Is like falling in love for someone he suppose to be come like, was enough, is the most infuriating sexist fairy tale, that was great to enhance the young millennials the idea, that was a very common trope in medis in middle of 90's and the whole 00"s, that women should love the ugly the bad, the violent, and any guy is entitled to girl, no merit is needed.
Then millennial HAD* to study and work, so we are independent and don't need to deal with men sh*t, and guys got all "where is my woman? Feminism ruined my life!!".
*We was just raise with the ideal of studying and get a good job, as everybody of our generation, I think people didn't thought that would change how we deal with relationship, but this also take off the role of provider and protector that men had, so we got a bunch of men child that the biggest topic they discuss is marvel, that don't want even pay for dinner because they are paranoid and afraid of being simps...
I gonna die alone, lol
@20:07 "sectumsempra" -bathroom scene half-blood prince -
Have you ever heard of a movie called Welcome to the Dollhouse? It's messed up 😯
On you not paying for the reboot, I will screen record it and send it to you I want a video xxx
Haha you’re the best; my issue precisely is paying for it- I don’t wanna give JK any more of my money 😂😭
@@SerenaSkybourne pirating is also an option 🏴☠️
@@SerenaSkybourneThe thing is, she already has that money. It doesn't matter if you consume or not the products from the Harry Potter franchise, she already has the money paid to her by the companies that are using her work.
I was thinking when you were talking about how Draco grew up, those things could all be said about how Dudley grew up. But I haven't seen any fandoms rushing to love him (probably because of pretty privilege).
But Danny did try to change for Sandy lol
Despite how terrible of a person JKR is, you have to admit that her writing is phenomenal.
No, the author has creative control of their works. I will stand by completely if one the most successful author of modern times has no control over their works what about the small time author? Second if believing women have right to our own spaces and right play sports on a even playing field, what is wrong about that. Thirdly, if you can't separate an author personal beliefs from their work, you probably don't need be reading Tolkien or Lewis.
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Please do more Harry Potter content.
11:00 - 11:28 that´s why I never supported the Deku x Bakugo ship and never was a fan of Bakugo from the start.
JKR confirmed that Draco had a crush on Grainger...But he didn't act on it because of his families beliefs about blood status.
She did not
@@nargisfakhri9243 she did, google.
The Gen Z entitlement of thinking you can take the work JK Rowling created is something else. Sorry, but no. Harry Potter is Rowling's. She created Harry Potter, and it will always be her's whether you like it or not. Ironically you and those like you, are treating her exactly how Harry Potter was treated when he spoke truths people didn't want to hear. I bet you haven't read her essay on the trans issue or even know what she truly believes on the subject.
Well, I like the bad boy!
I only ever watched the movies, and then as an adult...and all I ever thought of him was that he was a weasel. He never seemed like a bad boy, toxic or otherwise. The actor was quite attractive apart from the role, but in the role he was just greasy and pathetic.
i disagree that it belongs to fans. J.K is the author. HP came out of her head. it was her idea it belongs to her
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I liked your analysis. But there was no necessity for you to badmouth jk Rowling inorder to virtue signal.
The good guy-bad girl trope worries me more, because of real life examples around us. It bugs me a lot to see nice men getting hitched to a nasty, rude , brash woman who never smiles.😮
Jesus… ppl need to learn how to seperate an art/product from the creator without these irrational introductions and statements.. 😂
If only we had a world where YT creators were safe to do so, without a disclaimer.
Girl, what anti-trans things did JK Rowling say? Saying that biology matters is science and truth, not hate speech.
Yes, thank you!
movies softens so much of the draco arguments, the snape arguments, etc and had attractive actors, so it makes sense as people picture characters as their film versions even when thinking about books