Unveiling Our Epic 30kWh EP Cube Battery Installation - Prepare to Be Amazed!
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- čas přidán 31. 08. 2023
- This is the completed installation of the dual EP Cube battery backup system in #palmsprings. A lot of cool things to discuss and show you. We shut the grid power off completely for 4-hours straight with no issues turning on the homes multiple air conditionining units and powering all the other home loads. The retrofitted @SolarEdgeTechnologies system also turned on and started powering the home and recharging the batteries as expected.
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That's a great video on home backup! As someone who loves outdoor camping and values quality family time, I highly recommend the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. With its massive capacity, super fast recharging, and comprehensive protections, it's perfect for keeping your devices and appliances running during your outdoor adventures. Plus, its waterproof technology and smart app control make it even more convenient. Definitely worth considering for all outdoor enthusiasts and RV lovers!
Thanks for sharing your recommendation! I absolutely agree that the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series is a great option for outdoor enthusiasts and RV lovers. Its massive capacity, fast recharging, and comprehensive protections make it perfect for keeping devices and appliances running during outdoor adventures. Plus, the waterproof technology and smart app control add to its convenience. Definitely worth considering for all your power needs!
Nice clean install, only nitpick is the conduit running behind equipment. I'm looking seriously into going EP Cube. The one problem I see that a Tesla Powerwall 3 can do and this cannot is actually exemplified by this customer of yours. With that much existing PV, total energy generation a day in good weather can exceed 50kWh. The batteries can't store that much and with NEM3.0, export is a waste of money. The PW3 can (inconjunction with a Tesla EV) redirect excess PV generation into the EV by dynamically adjusting EV charge current to exactly match PV generation for zero-sell. The EP Cube's EV circuit cannot do that since the Gateway, EVSE and EV are 3 different vendors running 3 independent SW. Thanks for a great video!
The EP Cube team actually recommends running the conduit behind the batteries for a cleaner look, the gap between the batteries and the wall with the bracket is like 2 inches so having the 3/4 inch conduit isn't all that close. The batteries aren't really creating much heat in this air conditioned garage either since they're lithium-iron phosphate. This particular customer was under NEM 2, and there were no changes to that after adding the batteries. But things are a bit different under NEM 3, it's not all that bad with good designs, you can still save a lot of money and maintain a low average utility bill with a solar battery system.
@@dalerolph Thanks for the detailed responses. All the best!
I don't see the PV in being in metal conduit. That said, I am probably going to buy and install the EP Cube.
They look awesome. Have you seen any issues with the EP Cubes?
it’s been a pretty solid product from installation to software updates to general operation. We’ve installed a lot of different batteries over the years and it’s nice to finally see manufactures getting things right.
Very nice , but what does it cost?
That home must have modern inverter air conditioning units. I doubt it will start any traditional non-inverter type units without soft start kits. My 4 ton heat pump has LRA of 96 amps.
I believe they had two 4-ton units. The LRA rating on many of these batteries today can handle 80 amps or more, and when you double you also double your LRA rating
This is good. I was wondering if you balanced the strings per inverter but I see now that this is a Tesla retrofit.
Yeah, they have dual SolarEdge inverters which if it was any other type of inverter we could’ve DC coupled it.
can you step by step teach me how buind up this.
What I dont understand is, isnt it supposed that in the USA, there is an embargo on chinese solar products?
we´ve had nothing but problemas with that brand down here in Mexico
I’m not aware of this product available outside of North America, Japan, and parts of Europe.
@@dalerolph Canadian Solar is very much sold in Mexico ... actually everyone tries to market it as a true Canadian made product.
In our experience Canadian Solar products are way overrated and prone to warranty issues.
@@dalerolph So Mexico is no longer part of North America?
Cool! How does this system work with bidirectional charging EVs? Can the system recognize the EV batteries as an additional power source?
No it cant use the EV batteries as a power source currently. Talk is abundant on a potential software update in the future, though.
@@mouuseygbare you able to use an ice car as generator of course parked outside for fumes but in case of extreme emergency to charge up the batteries and home ?
Could you put a link/info for the Schneider surge protector?
www.se.com/us/en/work/products/explore/home-surge-protection/
@@dalerolph Great thanks!
Aren't you sacrificing wall space no matter how you do it? Either up or out?
Yes, but it’s all about storage capacity and power density per square foot
@@dalerolph the EG4 power pro takes the same amount of space and has 15KW of power and can output 12kw. That’s more than the 7.6KW the ep cube can put out.
Can this system work with out batteries
Only inverter and smart gateway ?
No, it’s not designed like that.
Can that system be used with microinverters?
Yes
Just a minor correction.
Charging an ev during grid outage is easily accomplished with a sol ark 15kW w/ a few battery options
Sure, but it’s not integrated in a way to tell the system to stop charging the EV during a specific event. What happens if you have a power outage at 2am and you’re down to 40% SOC and the SolArc kicks in as it should but your EV is charging so all the power goes into the car. You drain the battery into the car instead of having the EV charging stopped automatically the second it went into backup mode.
Who is sol ark? Are you talking about those Deye inverters with a sticker on them?
Cost?
This particular configuration is around $45,000 before the 30% federal investment tax credit and any state rebates.
@@dalerolph I assume that is just for the two batteries and the disconnect switch.
It’s a bit more than that, you have plan design, engineering, permits, electrical components like wire, electrical panels, circuit breakers, general materials like mounting brackets and gutter boxes, administration and of course labor. The most expensive components are the battery modules, hybrid inverters and the automatic transfer switch.
@@dalerolph Understand. I meant it wasn’t the complete system including the solar array.
that’s just before the cost of the batteries. This project the homeowner had purchase the solar a few years prior from Tesla
There are other systems that output that much. Why would he say there is nothing on the market like it?
I’m comparing storage capacity and power output to wall space. There really isn’t anything on the market this compact that gives you up-to 40kWh of storage capacity at 15kW of continuous power and 44kVa of surge.
@@dalerolph So an EG4 18k can output 12kw of electricity and have 15kw of storage per battery. That would take up the space of one of the units you are showing. The EP Cube can only output 7.6KW hrs of energy per inverter where, as I said, the EG4 can output 12kw per inverted. And it takes up the same amount of space?
@@nestnirvana The EG4 takes up more space actually. My garage is pretty tight with 2 cars and the EG4's depth would be a problem. The EP Cube's depth is no problem plus I can expand vertically without taking up any more room horizontally.
I never understand salesmen who make false claims and when they are called on it they disappear.
No one made false claims we just have better things to do then go back and forth about a product we don’t care about. You’re entitled to your opinion and what you consider to be good.
You said no one puts out as much power as the EPCube and I showed you that is false@@dalerolph
Weird looking cube...guess someone didn't have a dictionary nearby.
Violates UL9540 by putting 2 batteries within 3 feet of each other.
The EPCube uses Chinese made, low cost, high frequency, transformerless inverter technology that's notorious for providing a low surge capacity that offers poorer inductive load performance than higher performance, safer, longer lived low frequency, transformer based inverter tech.
I’m pretty sure just about every inverter has parts from China. We’re a global economy it’s hard to not have parts and materials come from other regions.