One minor point of clarity. Both 100A auxiliary contacts are bidirectional, only one is also tied to a control circuit capable of starting or stopping a generator. So you could run a generator through one contact and AC PV through the other. Both contacts have CTs and report power consumption or generation through the handheld application. Great video with clear explanation of the system!
Self consumption mode sounds great. I've not heard that explained before so thank you kindly for touching upon it. Not sure how I came across this video but wanted to comment and say thanks. We are looking to expand our current system that came with the house to include storage so will now go back through your earlier content to learn more about this mode. We are not interested in selling back but rather generating what we use. So much to read and learn. Thank you again. You did great.
Yes, we are updating an EPCube online configuration tool to assess how customers can benefit most from the minimum EPCube configuration to simultaneously meet the home power rating, peak power, and battery capacity.
Great Content as usual Joe! I didn't really get the 7.6kw power rating part. Do you know where I can find more info about it? Looks like some other systems offer higher power output ratings. Many thanks for considering my request.
With so many new products, I would think the prices will drop to appliance level (less than $4k) for these batteries. I guess we'll just have to wait some more.
3+more years for that low a price imo. I'll be curious when the gen 3 powerwall drops here soon with lfp in a more compact package with some interesting stuff build wise. Allegedly it's going to use some new welding techniques ala SpaceX who also uses tesla batteries&motors on the rockets. Anyway I bet that battery could be only 6-7k.
When Sunpower entered the Solar market, more than 10 years ago, they offered a high performance (for the time) 225 watt(?) panel. The systems had a matching string inverter. Those systems are now coming close to the end of the warrantee on the inverter. Could the EP Cube use an existing array of these panels coupled directly (DC coupled) into the unit, replacing the existing Sunpower inverter? Supposedly the Sunpower panels are "positively grounded", different from others? I realize the existing Sunpower inverter could be AC coupled into the EP Cube.
It would've been great to see the actual connection or a schematic of the system. Especially the smart connection box or the gateway. That would bring a better understanding for visual folks like me. Seeing it on a wall looking good don't tell me much, respectfully.
Thanks, will be looking at battery systems for my existing solar. But some info on a proposal in California as SCE is proposing a home income rate fee. Depending on what the home total annual income is will dictate the fee. We'll see if the CPUC will approve... Looks like we (solar & battery owners) have become victims of our own success.
I like the DC to DC approach, however I am strongly against high voltage DC battery packs as it means most of the cells are in series. If you stick to the tried and tested 48v systems (Pylontech as one example but there are many), you have the ability to stack the pack which results in a scalable battery solution WITH easy to swap out racks. If one cell fails in a high voltage pack, the entire pack is off line. With server style packs, you simply remove the faulty pack and reconnect the others with a slightly smaller bank. You still have a working energy solution. I have 10kw of Canadian Solar 595w panels and they put out massive current (18.4 amps). You need less panels and I would love to see a Canadian Solar 48v battery that is scalable. Take my money!
Connecting multiple 48V low-voltage battery packs in parallel can improve the reliability of the battery part, but the battery and the inverter are still connected in series; A good battery system is not a shortcoming of the whole system. The main goal of battery series connection is to bring higher conversion efficiency, which means less heat generation and higher reliability. The design that can be referred to is that almost all EVs are series battery designs. Under the premise of excellent design and manufacturing, series battery systems will have greater benefits.
In addition, two sets of EPCube can be connected in parallel with the same SmartGateway, so that the battery and inverter are connected in parallel, which really improves system reliability, and is very suitable for your 10kw photovoltaic system.:)
Hopefully they respond, I contacted Franklin whole home and Renogy X and haven't received a person to come out for a estimate. I have a solar system already and just looking for whole home backup
@@SolarSurge Darn! After watching some of your vids, I trust you more than anyone else I've seen or talked to. You're so close (in Texas). Oh well 😞- Thanks, Lee
Hi Joe! Another great video. Are there any systems, besides Enphase, that don't shut down solar use when the grid is down? For the systems that do shut down solar, at what threshold do they start recharging batteries? Seems like you have to oversize your storage to make sure you can make it through the night, but I'm having trouble finding this information.
Whether AC couple or DC couple, EPCube can continue to generate solar power in the event of a power outage, EPCube will automatically stop generating electricity when the battery is full, and when the battery is discharged, EPCube will automatically resume charging.
Well, NEM 3.0 is here. The major change is the reduction of net-metering credits when selling solar power back to the utility. That's why having battery storage is so important now.
@@SolarSurge thanks for the reply I'm wondering if there is any additional fees that you may know of for going solar like a utility fee besides the interconnected fee that already exists
@@rodr.j5513 Not that I'm aware of. They tried to raise the connection fee, but instead had to settle for the discounted buyback rate. However, things could change again in the future.
The price per kWh is twice the cost of existing server rack batteries of the same quality and capacity. Another Canadian grift. The gateway itself is just a overpriced inverter transfer switch without the inverter.
Good morning Joe, a company named Forever Energy is coming out with a battery that should have a price competitive cost about the same as a single Tesla power wall, but provides 3× the storage and last for 30 years or more. A single battery will provide 10Kw of power with 40KWh of storage, do you have any information on this battery, would this single battery be enough for a single home🤔🧐 thank you Joe for your solar energy podcast it is very thoughtful and helpful, have a great day, be kind to yourself and the people around you with peace and love me 🤔🧐🤣😂☀️🫂🥰💕💙
One minor point of clarity. Both 100A auxiliary contacts are bidirectional, only one is also tied to a control circuit capable of starting or stopping a generator. So you could run a generator through one contact and AC PV through the other. Both contacts have CTs and report power consumption or generation through the handheld application. Great video with clear explanation of the system!
New follower here, You are by far the best CZcamsr for anything solar. The details you go into are by far more in depht than anyone else. Thanks
Thanks for the support!
As always my friend, you are on fire.
You truly have the heart of a teacher and it blesses so many!
Self consumption mode sounds great. I've not heard that explained before so thank you kindly for touching upon it. Not sure how I came across this video but wanted to comment and say thanks. We are looking to expand our current system that came with the house to include storage so will now go back through your earlier content to learn more about this mode. We are not interested in selling back but rather generating what we use. So much to read and learn. Thank you again. You did great.
Great Video Joe. Keep up the Great work.
I installed the ep cube like 2 months ago I think we were the first ones to do it
Nice. What was your experience?
Super simple and easy to commission
The mounting brackets could be better
The mounting brackets are earthquake rated and overbuilt. What don’t you like about them?
@@AWBabbage You have to put them together, comes in pieces
Thanks
Can’t wait to have you consult on my forever home.
Great vid, love to see more content about this ep cube, looks pretty nice
I wish Solar Surge had a FREE Phone Call for Rhode Island. lol
This piece of glory belongs to me, but was taken away by EP Cube now
How does this unit compare to the Franklin unit? Price, performance, etc.?
Very comparable in terms of cost. I plan to do a more detailed head-to-head comparison video in the future.
Its expansion step size is 3.3kWh, while Tesla Powerwall is 13.5kWh, which I think is more suitable for most homes.
Yes, we are updating an EPCube online configuration tool to assess how customers can benefit most from the minimum EPCube configuration to simultaneously meet the home power rating, peak power, and battery capacity.
Awesome set up
Great Content as usual Joe! I didn't really get the 7.6kw power rating part. Do you know where I can find more info about it? Looks like some other systems offer higher power output ratings. Many thanks for considering my request.
With so many new products, I would think the prices will drop to appliance level (less than $4k) for these batteries. I guess we'll just have to wait some more.
3+more years for that low a price imo. I'll be curious when the gen 3 powerwall drops here soon with lfp in a more compact package with some interesting stuff build wise. Allegedly it's going to use some new welding techniques ala SpaceX who also uses tesla batteries&motors on the rockets. Anyway I bet that battery could be only 6-7k.
i have a grid tie system. Can I install EP cube without my lessor getting pissed off? They say I am not allowed to alter system in any way.
Lovely !!!!!
When Sunpower entered the Solar market, more than 10 years ago, they offered a high performance (for the time) 225 watt(?) panel. The systems had a matching string inverter. Those systems are now coming close to the end of the warrantee on the inverter. Could the EP Cube use an existing array of these panels coupled directly (DC coupled) into the unit, replacing the existing Sunpower inverter? Supposedly the Sunpower panels are "positively grounded", different from others? I realize the existing Sunpower inverter could be AC coupled into the EP Cube.
Hello Mr. 7.5 KW what's out put voltage ?
It would've been great to see the actual connection or a schematic of the system. Especially the smart connection box or the gateway. That would bring a better understanding for visual folks like me. Seeing it on a wall looking good don't tell me much, respectfully.
czcams.com/video/CgzwjMnxGTg/video.html
Hi,this video link has a lot of information about EPCube.
@@Andy-2021 I don't see your relationship with the creator of the video. Who are you?
Thanks, will be looking at battery systems for my existing solar. But some info on a proposal in California as SCE is proposing a home income rate fee. Depending on what the home total annual income is will dictate the fee. We'll see if the CPUC will approve... Looks like we (solar & battery owners) have become victims of our own success.
I like the DC to DC approach, however I am strongly against high voltage DC battery packs as it means most of the cells are in series. If you stick to the tried and tested 48v systems (Pylontech as one example but there are many), you have the ability to stack the pack which results in a scalable battery solution WITH easy to swap out racks. If one cell fails in a high voltage pack, the entire pack is off line. With server style packs, you simply remove the faulty pack and reconnect the others with a slightly smaller bank. You still have a working energy solution. I have 10kw of Canadian Solar 595w panels and they put out massive current (18.4 amps). You need less panels and I would love to see a Canadian Solar 48v battery that is scalable. Take my money!
I think the goal here is speed of installation and a sleek looking product.
@Solar Surge I'd rather have a slower installation with better serviceability and no downtime personally and I don't care what it looks like.
Connecting multiple 48V low-voltage battery packs in parallel can improve the reliability of the battery part, but the battery and the inverter are still connected in series; A good battery system is not a shortcoming of the whole system. The main goal of battery series connection is to bring higher conversion efficiency, which means less heat generation and higher reliability. The design that can be referred to is that almost all EVs are series battery designs. Under the premise of excellent design and manufacturing, series battery systems will have greater benefits.
In addition, two sets of EPCube can be connected in parallel with the same SmartGateway, so that the battery and inverter are connected in parallel, which really improves system reliability, and is very suitable for your 10kw photovoltaic system.:)
More info, please, on AC coupled systems for those of use with Solar and enphase microinverters.
manage your tools, Google Solar Surge Enphase. SMH
czcams.com/users/results?search_query=soalr+surge+Enphase,
This unit couples with any AC PV system, Enphase, other microinverters, or string inverters
Hopefully they respond, I contacted Franklin whole home and Renogy X and haven't received a person to come out for a estimate. I have a solar system already and just looking for whole home backup
We can help you with that in Texas. Please just book a call: solarsurge.net/
@@SolarSurgethank you so much
Hi Joe, Great vid (Again!) Is Solar Surge going to be available in Louisiana in the near future?
Hi LP. I'm afraid not.
@@SolarSurge Darn! After watching some of your vids, I trust you more than anyone else I've seen or talked to. You're so close (in Texas). Oh well 😞- Thanks, Lee
I can't find any distributor/retailer for the EP Cube in Ontario or Quebec...
any luck?
Hi Joe! Another great video. Are there any systems, besides Enphase, that don't shut down solar use when the grid is down? For the systems that do shut down solar, at what threshold do they start recharging batteries? Seems like you have to oversize your storage to make sure you can make it through the night, but I'm having trouble finding this information.
FranklinWH does what you are asking for.
@@johnggraves thank you!
Whether AC couple or DC couple, EPCube can continue to generate solar power in the event of a power outage, EPCube will automatically stop generating electricity when the battery is full, and when the battery is discharged, EPCube will automatically resume charging.
Hello Is this a LiFPo battery please?
yes
Was there a generator running in the background? It started getting loud around the 8-minute mark.
Construction on my street.
@@SolarSurge okay, no problem. thanks for all the great videos.
In California do you know if the electric company will be adding any additional fees for solar
Well, NEM 3.0 is here. The major change is the reduction of net-metering credits when selling solar power back to the utility. That's why having battery storage is so important now.
@@SolarSurge thanks for the reply I'm wondering if there is any additional fees that you may know of for going solar like a utility fee besides the interconnected fee that already exists
@@rodr.j5513 Not that I'm aware of. They tried to raise the connection fee, but instead had to settle for the discounted buyback rate. However, things could change again in the future.
@@SolarSurge I appreciate your support and help to the industry
Does it can get tied to grid but no back feed
Yes we can this self consumption mode with zero export
the tesla powerwall is an ac coupled system ?
Yes. Tesla Powerwall II is AC-coupled. Powerwall+ is DC coupled.
@@SolarSurge thanks, so for this reason, if you're running battery alone and no solar, you dont need inverter, only gateway... correct ?
@@mikelard That's correct.
@@SolarSurge What about Enphases battery?
People have these things in their homes?? I hate to be around if these things catch fire, there goes the neighborhood...
The new LFP chemstry is much safer than the older lithium NMC. It runs much cooler.
@@SolarSurge Well thats good news.
The price per kWh is twice the cost of existing server rack batteries of the same quality and capacity. Another Canadian grift. The gateway itself is just a overpriced inverter transfer switch without the inverter.
Good morning Joe, a company named Forever Energy is coming out with a battery that should have a price competitive cost about the same as a single Tesla power wall, but provides 3× the storage and last for 30 years or more. A single battery will provide 10Kw of power with 40KWh of storage, do you have any information on this battery, would this single battery be enough for a single home🤔🧐 thank you Joe for your solar energy podcast it is very thoughtful and helpful, have a great day, be kind to yourself and the people around you with peace and love me 🤔🧐🤣😂☀️🫂🥰💕💙
New follower here, You are by far the best CZcamsr for anything solar. The details you go into are by far more in depht than anyone else. Thanks
Thanks for the support