Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie discuss Barbie's surprising feminism | 7.30
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- It's one of the world's most recognisable toys and one of the more polarising by today's standards. Barbie is now the subject of a new movie produced and starring Margot Robbie and directed by Greta Gerwig with Ryan Gosling as Ken.
It's part homage, part comedy but with a strong feminist twist. 7.30’s Sarah Ferguson speaks Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie.
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im so glad the interviewer recognized how awkward it was for them to be talking about greta as if she wasn’t sitting right next to them lol
bechdel test ... passed!?
And that the two ultimately enjoyed an insightful and informative exchange following. I wasn't sure how it was going to go either, but the three ended up communicating with different hats than I'd expected and I was enthralled in what they think and had to say.
I love that Margo is talking like a producer, strategily, clear, goal oriented and Greta is talking like a director, guide by instinct and creative. It allows you to see how big projects are always team work. It also shows what happens when you turn jealousy or envy into admiration. Both women are great but in their own unique way.
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i adore this comment
Margot is Cancerian, who can make for brilliant, empathetic leaders with high Emotional Intelligence.
Sorority is the best!
No, they are actually very dumb about reality.
Approx. min 2:21. "Smart without making you feel stupid, funny without making you feel boring." Those are beautiful words to say about another person. Margot, you're so kind and graceful.
As the only boy in a family of three sisters, I remember well them playing Barbie. Their monologues, whether playing by themselves or with friends were always joyful. They would play with them for hours on end. I married a gal who Barbie also played a huge part in her life. The youngest of four, two of them boys who were sport stars, Barbie payed attention to her when no one else would while her brothers dominated the family dynamics. At sixty four years old now, my wife is very stylish and would be quick to credit Barbie for that. We have a fourtie year old daughter who also loved Barbie. She though, was more into weird Barbie, she's an artist and Barbie was an early canvas. There was a lot of clothing and physical modifications to Barbie from her. I'm sixty nine years old and Barbie has always been in my life through the woman in my life. I can't wait to see this movie. Thank you Margot and the brilliant Greta Gerwig.
I hope you have great fun watching the movie ,Sir.
This is so cute!
into weird barbie. Lmaoo. I adored barbie with all my heart (im a girl)
How nice to read your comment. ❤
This made me cry a little 😢. Thank you for sharing this ❤
This was so interesting to watch I never knew that Margot was the one that pitched it and was so hands-on in the process of developing the film from pre to post and also the fact that they had to “defend” it to mattel
Margot is the producer
@@forevertruth1206 She hired herself.
@@sienkiewiczmonika1161she didn’t. She came to greta with the idea and said i don’t care if i play Barbie, i just want this done right. And greta made the decision to cast her. Check yourself!
This interviewer is so good at not making this just like any other “two women together interview” thing that we see 99% of the time. Also them together makes it just a great interview. Smart, direct, easily explaining what they are conveying. Greta saying how Margot just went in and asked what she wanted. I think I’m half projecting because I want / need to be like that. But I think also we don’t see this kind of interview with a woman or multiple women. I cannot wait to see this and already want them to direct/ produce another project together again. They flow off of each other so well. I love this!!
The two of them are so great together. Also, Margot Robbie as a producer is killing it. I, Tonya, Promising Young Woman, Barbie... Now, that's a woman who cares for art.
Do you know how the movie starts? 6-7 year old kids, bashing and slapping dolls, calling them "babies" and saying "now we don't have to be Mothers!!!"
Haven’t seen Promising Young Women. Thanks, ima have to check it out.
@@gamingtonight1526cool, on a metaphorical level can relate.
@@gamingtonight1526 You need to get a grip
It’s a misandrist movie
1. Margot Robbie has been paid $12.5 million for her lead part in Gerwig’s movie.
2. The workers on the Barbie doll assembly line are paid $2 an hour.
3. Therefore, to earn Margot’s money, each worker would have to work 6,250,000 hours.
4. Given their 12-hour shifts six days a week, this amounts to 1,669 years of utterly tedious and repetitive labor.
Excellent points. This film is little more than an overrated, over-promoted, very expensive advertising campaign for Mattel's products. The sickening thing is that it's lauded as a feminist message. It's a narcissistic corporate promotion that further degrades people it is directed to - both men and women.
@@Ana-Karina virtually all movies are simply meant to be entertainment - "Barbie' is no exception. Anyone who objects to it's content is welcome to boycott it.
@@wylierichardson-tu6zs Why would anyone want to bring even more unmerited attention to the film by boycotting it?!
@@Ana-Karina Um, the only alternative to boycotting "Barbie" is to buy a ticket to see it.
@@wylierichardson-tu6zs When I initially considered the word boycott in your earlier reply, I thought you meant a loud kind of public protest. If you meant a quiet, personal refusal to watch the film, I see that now. As for the film simply being entertainment, we shall have to agree to disagree. Thanks for your messages :)
It always floors me when people seem to think that Barbie isn't inherently feminist. In 1959, Mattel created "Barbie, Teen-Age Fashion Model". From the very beginning, she was a young woman who had a *job.* And she had several more jobs before she ever got a boyfriend. Feminism and femininity aren't mutually exclusive. You can be feminist in high heels and Birkenstocks.
I'm a lifelong Barbie fan and collector, and to me Barbie's most salient feature was always her kindness. In Barbie's world, you are accepted and embraced, and it was always clear to me that she loved her female friends more than her boyfriend, considering how much she hung out with them as opposed to just being with Ken. In 1968, when "Barbie talk" was going all around, it was her friends Christie and Stacey that Barbie talked to, Ken wasn't even in the picture at all until 1969, when P.J. and Julia also joined in the talking fun. Malibu Barbie certainly invited Ken to the beach in 1971, but it wasn't a romantic outing. Her little sister Skipper was there, as was her cousin Francie and her two besties, Christie and P.J. When Barbie became a SuperStar in 1977, Christie was right there with her, but Ken didn't join their group until the following year. Very seldom was it just Barbie and Ken as a duo. In 1983, when Barbie and Ken went on their Dream Date, P.J. still managed to tag along. So yeah, it's easy to see that Ken might feel marginalized, but it's always seemed quite clear to me that Barbie's world has always had a message of women supporting women.
Wow… you just took me down memory lane. I grew up with Barbie in the 60s & 70s. I had Skipper, Barbie’s friends, the townhouse, the pool, the sports car, the camping set and probably more. Can’t remember if I ever had a Ken doll🤔. Thank you!
I think that talk was mostly about Barbie's proportions and that she was feminine. But you can be feminine and a feminist. I think that the proportions of the doll was more the parents concerned that the kids paying attention to it. I'm sure there were some who did want to look like Barbie, but not as widespread as it was made to believe. Weight and body image issues wasn't just caused by Barbies, it was a whole culture.
I know someone who has an old barbie
Wasn't the barbie figure a copy of a Gernam sex doll? Its almost an identical copy.
@@gethelp6271 "sex doll" is not an accurate description of the Bild-Zeitung "Lilli" doll that Barbie was copied from. Lilli was a character doll, based on a cheeky, provocative character in a comic strip in the Bild-Zeitung newspaper in the 1950s. Today she would be more along the lines of a Funkopop or something, Lilli wasn't intended to be a plaything, but a 'gag gift' or a novelty gift, which would have a primarily adult male audience. The comic strip character was risqué by the standards of the day, kind of a 'gold-digger' archetype, but the doll was pretty tame all things considered. There wasn't any detailing of the naughty bits or anything like that, Lilli was much like a Barbie doll in appearance, even if the construction of the doll differed significantly. Barbie essentially took this overtly sexualized male-gaze archetype and turned it into an innocent teenage fashion model character, but the first iteration of the doll especially looked quite similar to the sultry vixen that was the original Bild Lilli doll.
Seeing people from all across the world recognise Sarah Ferguson is really heartening, Sarah is probably one of the best and most successful journalists in the world right now and is a national treasure for Australia.
One of the *best* interviews i've seen about this movie, genuinely interesting and asking thought provoking questions, rather than the same click bait questions they've been asked at every junket. What a great interviewer!
Agreed! The world needs more interviewers like her.
Orwell would be proud
I had the exact same thought
This is Sarah Ferguson, she's a prominent Australian Journalist who has release 3 critically acclaimed docuseries, headed Australia's leading current affair for 3 years, has grilled Prime Ministers of Australia and other countries as well as other prominent politicians in Australia on hundreds of Occasions, and is leading the top current affair program on Australia's public broadcaster.
She is really one of the most impressive journalists in the whole world.
That's really great to hear about her reputation - will look out for other interviews with her
Finally an interview not asking Margot her favorite song or something. So good to see them get to talk about the film in a serious way.
One of the best interviews about this film! All the rest focus on the feet shot. This really dug into the genesis of the film and the ideas behind the creation. Margot Robbie and Greta Gerwig are a power duo. I hope they create more together!
They create the worst misandrist movie
The movie is misandrist.
Kkkkkk😂
@@CristanioPeweyyy nope the movie hates only on men who disrespect women, not all men 👍
@@mangoshakeyumm Not true. They do not respect men. They respect simps. They hate men.
When women disrespect men its okay. That is your logic.
I love it when Margo says Barbie❤️ Báhbie
It seems like they’re saying a lot of nothing. The only time they say anything is when she admits it’s mostly a feminist film. The rest of it is like dancing around land mines.
Wow I had no idea that Margot quarterbacked the whole movie, the production, the hiring of the writer(s), everything. It was in Limbo for 11 years before Margot took control and made it happen in 3.
Gerwig was completely inarticulate in this interview. She literally just put random words one after another, none of it made any sense.
This movie is not what they think it is...... Based
I love how this comment section isn't comparing them. I think Margot and Greta are both warm, talented, likable, intelligent, and lovely in their own ways.
I wish they conducted interviews with world leaders and politicians in this manner.
So we're not only pretending feminists haven't hated Barbie for decades, but a two hour toy commercial is actually very intellectual and Barbie is better than feminism? This just reinforces my theory that this movie is a parody made by Republicans.
Ya it’s strange.
@@Karma-fp7hointernalized misogyny u got going on
I’m a feminists and I love Barbie
very cringe
Great interview. Can’t help but wonder what Margot Robbie’s hair care routine is though.
It must feel great having someone talk about you the way Margot talks about Greta.
If I hadn’t seen or known anything at all about this movie while watching this, I would immediately go and see it. They are so great together. I already need another Margot/ Greta produced/ directed/ written project and I haven’t seen this one yet.
I HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS ABOUT either THIS INTERVIEW or MARGOT/ GRETA TOGETHER SPEAKING THE WAY THEY ARE. (Not being cut off or asked surface level no thought questions) IDK THERE IS SO MUCH. I CANNOT TELL NOW. BUT I LOVE THIS.
What a thoughtful interview, such great questions and follow-ups
Margot Robbie launched her career being totally nude in The Wolf Of Wall Street but now she's a feminist role model.
She is whatever she is paid millions to be.
What annoys me is the preaching to girls and women telling them "you are enough" after having cosmetic surgery, other procedures, becoming blonde and being on a perpetual diet. Yeah, okay, whatever you say Hollyweird.
i don’t see barbie as a ‘hating men’ movie. ken’s version of dominance was making the barbie submissive housewives, meanwhile barbie’s version of dominance is not even repressing the kens. and in the end, kens get as much power as women in the real world, which is very telling of our society.
Exactly. And this ladies and gentlemen, is actual feminism.
***SPOILER ALERT*** I felt like the scene where the two Kens are denied court seats by Issa Rae's character and instead given lower seats is much more related to the real world but the reverse. Women are denied positions of power and influence. It reminded me of the end of 9 to 5. I didn't see it as a man hating movie either. Quite the opposite actually. I thought it artfully showed how patriarchy hurts men as well.
Of course it is, it is a film that gives men and patriarchy as a villain, in order to "empower" the girls when they defeat them. Good message, but very dangerous in the long run.
It does lol thats why I'm happy with trans winning over women in sports deserved
@@sarov7658 ouch
This is one of the most uncomfortable interviews I’ve ever seen. Why is Greta Gerwig so uncomfortable as if she’s hiding something, as if she is being disingenuous? Constantly stammering over her words, extremely careful in what she is saying as if to avoid the actual meaning of what she is saying and often using self repair. She is giving off the impression that she is not confident in what she is saying, indicating that it isn’t true what she is saying.
She wants to admit that the movie is a feminist diatribe, whereas business-head Margot knows that won't sell tickets.
The "You're good enough" movement has a beautiful intention, I believe. But it's also becoming an extremely easy escape for people who actually need to reflect on the distorted beliefs and sabotaging behaviors they need to acknowledge. We are all without question good enough to be heard, listened to, have a safe place to not fear discussions that may feel vulnerable. But being good enough does not mean that we are entitled for our opinions to be automatically accepted, for our disrespectful words to be tolerated, for equal access to lifestyle privileges that in reality mostly people who have to work really hard for can experience.
The human ego is core problem and the fact some people glorify it instead of work to transcend it is what is problematic.....
I think that being good enough does not mean that all sorts of behaviour should be accepted. It means that first of all one should accept the true, deep self. So some kind of ego free love for oneself without identifying with form or things. Once you accept and love yourself you are more resilient against negatives from the outside world and stop judging them . Just like Ken had accepted his true self and stopped the crazy behaviour. That gives you the power to remove yourself from unpleasant situations or to express the way you want to be treated (and the way you do not want it) without making things worse or dramatic.
You’re good enough is in reference to imposter syndrome. Not a free pass to act abusive and/or be intolerant
@@steve19811 I think the ego might be a perception tool, an avatar for our spiritual consciousness to be able to interact and perceive other things and beings as separate things. Our spirits live an Earthly life to grow in some ways that are not possible in the more fluid, interconnected spiritual realms.
Great interview!
This is the most in-depth of the Barbie interviews I have seen. Really enjoyed it.
they were simply so genious getting this script passed i cant even deal
Pixar have been beaten down heavily by dealing with the 'scary thing' so it's no wonder WB studios were being very very careful. The LEGO movie was also very self aware, but was really careful not to entertain the 'scary thing'
what scary thing?
@@alicia8577How is it possible that you need this explained to you?
Yeah, I got no idea what you’re on about
What scary thing??
I also don’t know. I don’t know because no one had told me. Can you?
Margo is talking with full sentences and Greta just blah, blah, blah... WTF?
Thank you ABC for having Margo and Greta for such a conversation, the more I hear about the script
entices me to actually see the movie.
We must have watched a different video then because Greta was stuttering and not making any sense in her responses.
This film will tank,only blue haired,unshaved pit,467 pronoun using freaks will watch it hence 0.0000005% of the population.
I hear its man hating
@@poocrayon4588 they said in this very video that's not what feminism is, nor is it what they do in the movie. They said it lifts up everyone
@@fyrewanderer2802 What they say and what the movie really is are two different things. I heard its super man hating and based on Margot Robbie banging on about patriachy thats what I'm now expecting. I have no clue what the other one was waffling on about, she seemed high.
@@poocrayon4588 Not really, if all the movie is showing Ken as a victim and an "accessory" to make a comparison about how some people see women. If you don't replicate those behaviors I don't see why it would affect you in the first place
The way ABC conducted this interview felt more like grilling a job interview.
I really liked it. It wasn't combative, the interviewer just seemed really curious and active listening to what they were saying.
@@pcapussoAgreed. She gave them the floor and let them speak for themselves rather than directing the interview.
Yeah the interviewer lacked warmth and spoke over the interviewees at times as well.
But I guess this kinda thing happens when it’s a supposed ‘serious’ interview on a news network 😏
Feminists always talked about how bad barbie image was for women & now suddenly we hear them calling the barbie image for super feminist🤣🤣🤣
They will say whatever they need to say to sell millions and millions of barbies.
Margot Robbie believed that Greta was "one of the great directors of our generation" based on _two_ movies? What?
Those two movies are 'Nights and Weekends', a micro budget mumblecore film that she only co-directed, and 'Lady Bird', a good but fairly simple coming-of-age movie. That's literally it.
What a bizarre statement.
This is world is completely absurd. We live in a weird world. Women are judged so harshly. And the same time Men are completely cast out. 😵
Is Greta shy or just being overly careful about what she’s saying? This was painful to watch. I feel her tension. 😬
The best interview I've seen of these two so far on the promotional circuit for this movie. Thank you for asking interesting questions that went beyond "tell us about that foot shot" in the trailer, or the clothes. From what I've heard around town (Los Angeles), this movie is much deeper than we're expecting. I would have happily watched another half hour of these two talking about this film with this journalist.
Feminist clap trap , Barbie does not like men 😂
Movie barbie sucked hard
I wanted to walk out but popcorn
there was nothing "surprising" about the feminist propaganda of the film.
Such a good conversation and topics, props to the interviewer, maam u did a very good job♥️
Margot Robbie killed it; she created this project and brought it to Mattel? Then produced it, and became actor lead? Just insane (in a good way)
Yes, she's amazing! And watching this ladies together I don't get why feminism is still a thing worth taking about...
This movie deserves a Grammy Oscar and golden globe
I have not (obviously) seen this yet and just from this interview I need another Margot/ Greta film. They seem superb together.
The interviewer was so great. I liked hearing about their discussions with Mattel and Warner Brothers.
Great Interview!
''men bad, women good, huhuhu'' yeah, great message! NEVER heard that one before from femcels.
This is definitely one of the best interviews I’ve seen of both women & their creative work on this movie! Well done!!
great interview
American here - why can't our programs be sane and tempered and intelligent like this without ridiculously dumb interview questions? These are great questions.
An American interviewer would have asked, what was your workout routine to prepare for the role?
You are so right. @@Mrs.Currie
What a great interview!
The movie has everything: a good story, a relevant discussion from a very interesting angle, humour, complexity, reality, fantasy, drama, amazing emotional scenes, family…it is a master piece❤
😂😂😂 nice one
Lolzz
And misandry! Don't forget the misguided, agenda-pushing misandrist lies!
They both managed questions in a very intelligent way.
lol adorable. Its like watching Idiocracy come alive.
By the end of the movie, Barbie World's President was hesitant to allow qualified Kens equal access to positions of power. So... Barbie World is not feminist. True, it doesn't predate on men sexually like the real world predates on women sexually, but in more than one way that doesn't concern sexual predation specifically, it is sexist.
This interviewer was clearly enamored with Margot. I would have liked to have squeal Great time as well. I loved the movie!
These people are profoundly inarticulate speakers.
Great interview! Thank you.
It now seems so obvious that a Barbie film would make gigantic amounts of money. Margot Robbie has developed a killer instinct for what will pay off in this 21st century global gangster capitalism hellscape.
Funny that a "21st century global gangster capitalism hellscape" would so richly reward a piece of hard feminist propaganda. Maybe the world is a bit further left than you realised...
Greta just there absorbing the compliments. 😊
That was a positively rip-roaring conversation, thank you ladies 🚺
I believe that all three of you are- good enough (!)
It never crossed my mind or heart that you weren't.
I've never understood what all this business about self worth is all about. It has never been a thought for me or towards anyone else!
Anyway, I love you both so much and can't wait to see 'Barbie' 💗 (and Ken)- no, Barbie and Ken- yes 💖 that sounds better.
I grew up with all of the toys like everyone, and again, I have never even been aware of any problem with the Barbie doll until I heard, vaguely about it.
I love the "lifting all boats 🚢" approach and idea 💡. Brilliant.
Even opposing views- everything on the table. But especially celebrating everyone's uniqueness and beauty and worth in this world 🌎 💖
Bravo 👏 Barbie, well done.🙏 🎉😂 🕉
I enjoyed the film but I can’t say it is humanist. It feels like it was made by people who don’t like men. Their representation is terrible. They are useless. Good thing Ryan Gosling is talented. Otherwise this would have been an insult to virility.
The bit where men are treated with love must be in the deleted scenes on the DVD.
Wow. Never saw this before. I dont know. Its different. Wonderful interview. This girls are leaving a mark. Do they understand how meaningful it has become?
This autoplayed on preview and caught my attention. A very pleasant surprise and good conversation. I am just loving Margot more and more after seeing Barbie. And been a fan of Greta since she was doing this weird sub genre of indie fulms called mumble core. So kts jut amazing to see the wirk she is doing now!
i had already 3 msg´s from my daughters deleted from this channel...just because they didnt like it at all the movie and MSG ....ABC is censuring and thats sad
The movie is incidious. Man hate movie. The plot is not discussed and all a marketing promotion. Come on ABC
Where is Plumber Barbie or Bricklayer Barbie? How about Lumberjane Barbie? Ditchdigger Barbie. Manual labour barbie
actually, all of the construction (which falls under bricklayer and manual labor) in barbieland is done by women. they already covered your complaints.
Ha the definition of toxic feminism. I love the fact that she created a totalitarian state where the Ken's are lower tier citizens who are homeless, so dumb. Ken revolution follows as an awesome end to that totalitarian system and immediately everybody is more equal and more happy. ❤
until the old system gets put back in place...
I haven’t watched barbie. But this interview is ❤❤ ugh 🥰 gotta watch it asap.
My grandma told me that her grandmother felt babie was far to "Grown Up" of a doll for little girls . She felt barbies adult female form was not appropriate for little gilrs and when and my grate grandma never did buy my grandma one bc she knew if she did she would not hea r the end of it from her mother. They were both italain my GG grandma born in the 1880's and my G grandma born in 1918 and my grandma born 1947. Its worth nothing Women in my GG grandmothers generation did not like barbie because they worried of body image issues for girls but because they thought barbie was too sexual and was not appropriate for little girls to own.
The most serious and harmful lie is that "Men and Women are equal". We have biological and psychological differences which lead to big difference in our behavior, need, and way of happiness. We are unequal.
that phrase doesn't mean that they are the same biologically it means that they SHOULD have equal access to opportunities and neither should be treated as a second class citizen, sadly I think the film also misses that point
@@snule349 Then that will have to start from changing female psychology by females themselves. Females mate choice of bigger, taller, aggressive masculine, high status males resulted in male being bigger, and hyper competitive for power and status. If females changes themselves and stops rewarding males with those, nature and evolution will make men equal over thousands of years. Its the mate choice by females and their psychology of getting sexually attracted to someone large and aggressive enough to be able to kill them resulted the inequality you see.
@@user-ru7qn5om1q the reason that men are stronger biologically than women is because that's what testosterone does, I don't understand why you seem to be saying that women's tastes are what caused evolution to go the way it did. Also you seem to be ignoring that women have diverse taste, not every woman craves a masculine man and I'd say not a single one of my afab friends has ever said they desire an aggressive partner
Equality is not the same and it is not about masculinity or feminity. It means no gender is inherently better or more valuable than the other. No gender is subservient to the other. We can all play different roles but they are all valuable. The big lie is that a person who works outside the home is more valuable than a person who maintains a home, whether make or female.
@@JoanLBlack you should have seen what they said in the reply that got deleted
I don't think I've ever been in a situation myself with someone saying how magnificent someone is with them sitting there right next to them - a bit odd, but Margot can pull off anything.
Really nice convo
The discussion of "feminism" is painfully anti-intellectual and incoherent. Not a good sell.
For some reason I feel that Margon is much smarter that Greta. Listened few interviewed of Greta -- she cannot answer any question and it looks like she does not understand why she made this movie.
Very well made film. Loved everything about it, I get it might not be some people's cup of tea but I enjoyed it
This movie is the tragedy of Ken:
He discovered a better world where he was valued.
With that world knowledge he returned and he and his brothers defeated the tyrannical oppressors. The oppressors deceived Ken and his brothers, put them under heavier shackles and called it liberation.
Remember men this film depict feminism in his true form "Oppression".
As the Mattel CEO says in the movie ‘No one cares about Ken’
And that’s exactly how it should always be 😂😂
It feels almost all “feminist” movies now a days depict strong women as naturally great at traditionally masculine things and not having any flaws. Which isn’t relatable. Seeing a woman that can take down a huge man in one punch without any training may be empowering for some women to see, but I miss the strong feminine leads more women can relate to. The last great one I can think of was over 20 years ago and was Elle Woods. she’s smart and overcomes challenges while remaining feminine. Traditional femininity ended up giving her insight others didn’t have and ended up being a huge strength. I’m excited to see a female role like that again
I love that there’s space for all types female characters. Sometimes I want to channel woman king other times I wanna channel Elle Woods!
@@Sophia-tv7kg exactly! Growing up I loved Lara Croft and Elle Woods. Recently we’ve been getting way more Lara Croft / woman king characters though. I think people are craving some Elle Woods energy
YEP
Except this still going to be cringe feminist. Watch.
@@Sophia-tv7kg Woman king wasn't even historically accurate lol.
This is probably just me but I feel very confused by Greta’s explanations 😵💫 like pls just give me the spaks notes I cannot follow all the fluffy words
I feel like the thing I found most important about the movie is something they haven’t even really thought of themselves, like they obviously put it in there but they never reflect on it. I’m talking about Ken meeting the patriarchy in the real world and finding out it he can’t just gain entry by being a man. It suggests that beneath the gender struggle there is also a class struggle that leave most men, in fact, most people in general on the bottom of an unjust hegemony. Seeing this Ken returns to Barbieland where he can build up his own power only to find out that it is empty and that what is really meaningful is building community, and this across the genders on equal terms. I feel like this political issue has been overlooked probably because of the way in which capitalism envelops everything.
My interpretation of Ken meeting the "real world" was that Kens idea that being a man gets you anywhere is flawed. In order to get anywhere you need competence, something which Ken simply lacks. Why would it in that case be a class struggle? Is it because in USA you need to be wealthy in order to get a college degree?
Great interview
I saw a good interview with Greta where she said "hm .. it doesn't feel good to be an accessory, does it?" That seems like it sums up the way in which the film discusses feminism. She's right-- it feels awful to be taught that you merely exist as a man's trophy/ arm candy/ decoration/ etc. And to be told that your worth is limited to/ defined by your physical appearance.
So how about the treatment of Ken in the movie? Let's not pretend feminism is about equality any more. It's a vicious power grab by women hostile to almost every aspect of masculinity. It is divisive, unfair and ugly.
Just in case I decide to purchase and wear one or more outfits pictured in the Barbie Movie,
I should make a point of watching+studying the movie and learning about the background in order to be prepared for peoples' reactions to my wearing them! 🙂
Unfortunately it's unlikely that anyone would think I am a doll though... 🙄🤪
Hello! I have a great idea and project and what can I do to talk to Greta? Does she have a channel on youtube? Does somebody know what can I do to find her?
I know this is a serious topic but can we just pause to admire the FLAWLESS HAIR & MAKEUP here?
It's wonderful to see two powerful, creative women being real and sharing their process. I'm very appreciative of this film. It spoke to me on so many levels. It needed to be made. Thank you
Irony how they obsess with men
Powerful women who are obsessed with men lmao😂
@@kiwiwooqSays the girl who watched Barbie and then went home to her right hand
The absolute number one reason why i am most excited to see this movie is because of these two women. They are each so impressively talented and mindblowingly intelligent and passionate about their craft that there's no way it will be anything less than spectacular.
To be clear about just how important it is that this particular story be created from a female perspective, and how necessary it is for more female directors, screenwriters, and producers to be telling more and more and MORE stories in the entertainment media churned out by Hollywood, please consider this:
When Little Women was released in 2019, it swept the awards circuit, winning numerous Golden Globes and other industry awards for direction, acting, screenplay, and costuming. Until the pinnacle of them all, the Academy Awards. It was nominated in almost all major categories - Saoirse Ronan for Best Actress, Florence Pugh for Best Supporting Actress, Greta Gerwig for Best Adapted Screenplay, Best Costume Design, and many many others. The one notable award for which it was NOT nominated was Best Director for Gerwig. This is important because she was among a significant number of female directors that year who put out critically acclaimed or commercially successful movies and not a single one of them was nominated for the Best Director Oscar. Films like Portrait of a Lady on Fire, Book Smart, Hustlers, among others were snubbed by the Academy. And to such an egregious extent that Natalie Portman wore a custom made gown with the last names of these female directors embroidered on the dress as an act of silent petition and expression of her dissatisfaction.
Women are exquisitely capable of telling robust, intelligent, nuanced stories. We NEED women like these two who are willing to push forward and keep telling them for the sake of telling them.
💯💯💯💯🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
If I hadn’t seen or known anything at all about this movie while watching this, I would immediately go and see it. They are so great together. I already need another Margot/ Greta produced/ directed/ written project and I haven’t seen this one yet.
Little Women sucked and this is a man hating movie
You make me not want to see the movie. I'm a guy, got my tickets, but im not going because it's made me women. Stop making everything about social 'issues'. I'm more going to see Ryan Gosling act his guts out as Ken, more than anything.
@@poocrayon4588 How have you seen it when it doesn't come out for another eight days?
Brilliant interview.
Fancy making "a feminist film" based on Barbie. They really should have kept Ken out of it.
I don't give a damn about a such incompetent speaker as Greta Gerwig, but it does disturb me that Margo Robbie - who expresses herself incomparably more competently, has rushed down a rabbit hole with no way out for her future status as a s-e-r-i-o-u-s actress-artist.
Having worked with Mattel years ago I admire their understanding that Margot and Greta could create such a meaningful blockbuster.
Such a brilliant interview I've just watched it a second time. Greta Gerwig is obviously incredibly talented but Margot Robbie has a remarkable talent, besides being a great human and a great actor, for putting her thoughts and feelings into words in an intelligent, tactful and articulate manner. Fascinating.
Greta seems terrified and Margot is nervous for her. 😵💫
Yes, this movie will tell girls they can do anything. Women as producers and directors, Presidents, Doctors, and all. I remember growing up in the 80’s that I liked DJing and back then only guys could be something as simple as DJ. Later on, Barbie had some dolls who were DJs and now there are lots of female DJs. Also, pilots! My cousin is a flight attendant and there are a few female pilots in her airline. Some men yell and request to leave the plane when they find out that the pilot is a woman.
Those men are smart and based for wanting to leave the plane.
Anything except fulfilling their biological destiny of having children.
Women can do everything! Except provide all the resources we use to live (Farming, Building, Drilling, Mining etc). Oh and inventions. They aren't into inventing things.
@@noogate2672 That ain't feminist, that's the patriarchy!
Biology? How DARE you use that word around children.
@@noogate2672 I know. Modern women are a lose cause. Completely broken.
Margot is a very articulated person. She is not only beautiful but smart as well ❤
I was excited to see this film after seeing this interview but having now seen the movie I feel disappointed by how incoherent and poor the screenwriting felt. I don't say that lightly because I've loved everything I've seen by Greta.
I love you two!❤
I've seen the film and now watched this interview. And I'm still unclear what the coherent/ consistent feminist message in the film was meant to be - and actually my impression was that both Margo and Greta were struggling to articulate it in this interview.
However, I will say that there were some funny and touching moments in it [the bench scene with the old lady was particularly touching], and that acting and visuals were great. Margo was genuinely fantastic as Stereotypical Barbie.
I think this movie is most easily and coherently interpreted as a coming of age film (for Stereotypical Barbie)
You is trying to teach the director about his own movie ? LOL.
@@arthursouza9641 not really: like everyone else I have my own impressions/ thoughts.
Yeah, your uncultured opinion.@@nickthepostpunk5766
I can’t stand Barbie and hate that this made a lot of money. This just forces females to just be all self centered about themselves. Was really hoping this movie would tank and would be the end of Margot and Greta’s careers. Now we’ll be seeing more of these girl boss type movies🤢🤢
I think, the ending with Barbie leaving Barbieland points towards Barbie realizing that she should be living in the "real world" instead of an "imaginary place". In a sense she rejects this girlboss lifestyle and instead heads to "the patriarchy", because that is the place where she can actually be someone.