"The Cost of Concordia" | Kip Reacts to Internet Historian
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- Fellow Legends, welcome! Today we dive into the Cost of Concordia, truly a maritime disaster of all time in modernity. This is the next adventure into our Rewind Month where we reprise a few choice videos to bring them up to modern QA. Internet Historian did a wonderful job putting this together with his team, and outlines so many details and so much information in such a concise and professional manner. This was truly a great watch, and I absolutely loved this video! What are your thoughts on the Concordia? Do you think things could have been prevented much sooner? Do you think justice was served in the end? If you liked this video as much as I did then I do absolutely recommend you go and check out the original video to show some support for the source material!
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Original Video: The Cost of Concordia
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So according to a relative who worked on cruise liners. You can have the training to be a captain but because of the limited number of ships, most of them take lower positions on ships til a captain position opens up. So while he was security he could of had the training and everything to be captain
Well he could, but did he do it?
@@Bogdan221192Just because he was training to be a captain didn't mean he was a great study.
Schettino got his job through corruption and nothing else.
He probably met bare minimum requirement
Don't seem like it
The word mistress can also mean a woman a person is cheating on their spouse with. It's not just a word used in the S&M context. When Asmongold reacted to this video, he also thought about kinky stuff when the term mistress was mentioned. Weird. I thought it's widely known that mistress is commonly used in the context of cheating more so than in the kinky side of things.
Edit: To the people wondering how the word mistress can be kinky, mistress can also mean the feminine version of the word master. So just imagine how that works in a kinky scenario where a person is submissive and their woman partner is dominant.
Times have changed. People are more deranged nowadays
"Not only did he abandon his ship, but he was determined to abandon his wife as well." God I love internet historian. 🤣
I thought so too. It didn't even occur to me that people would take the word "mistress" to the kinky.
That's actually what the usual understanding of the word mistress is. Even i am shocked why he thought about kinky stuff when they mentioned mistress. This is the first time i heard of mistress being connected to kink stuff.
@@alicelenn7579tbh i think its a difference of where people pick up that word from, some pick it up from gossip magazines or news about bill clinton, others pick it up from "dommy mommy" degenerate twitter/whatever horny social media they consume.
The thing is, Sail by Salutes are technically illegal, but Italy doesn't really enforce that because Cruise lines are an incredibly important part of the economy for a lot of coastal communities. It's also why the company got such a small slap on the wrist from the court, because the Italian government wants the company to keep working at peak capacity or as close to peak capacity as possible.
I will also say, if Schettino had done only two things, no matter how chaotic or bad things got, he wouldn't have been the fall guy. If he had a) not lied to the port authorities and b) hadn't abandoned the ship, the blame wouldn't have landed so squarely on him. It would more likely have been split between him, the helmsman (most likely in a lesser, involuntary degree), and the third officer (for not following procedure). Possibly the first officer as well, because he was according to all procedures and even maritime law, not supposed to try and correct 315 to 335 because he did not have the com, and trying to give directions when you don't have the com is dangerous because it can confuse the helmsman.
Sail by Salute never was illegal. Not sure where you get that wrong info from. Basically the captain can decide to turn the ship where he wants to as long they reach their destination. Watch the expert who responded to the video. Stop spreading misinformation it's annoying
@@mayaha200the illegality wouldn't come from changing routes, but from using the horn needlessly.
The Champaign not breaking is a pretty legit test. I kid you not shipbuilding companies have spent MILLIONS of dollars researching the best bottles to use to ensure they break during the ceremony. The bottle failing to shatter means they picked the wrong one, meaning they cut corners so much they couldn't even be bothered to google what that research turned up.
And the Titanic was rated for 4 compartments, not 2, and had mechanical rams that would force the doors closed even in the event of a jam. The Titanic was *safer* than the Concordia. Before anyone starts, yes I know the bulkheads needed to go all the way up the ship and it didn't have enough lifeboats, but the Concordia still needed MUCH less water to sink it.
Given he was head of security, and Costa's reputation for aiding smugglers, it's highly likely he got promotions and was protected because he was looking the other way for said illegal shipments.
"I wonder if this plays a part in the revocation of those privileges?" - unfortunantly most cities can't do squat to force them to stop the sail by salutes.
In _Titanic_ 's case, Murdoch ordered the watertight doors closed before the collision, and successfully ordered the rear-end swing, thereby limiting the damage to the forward section. The impact, although glances, _still_ popped some rivets around the worst impact sites. That the firemen, engineers, electrical engineers, and wireless operators _all_ stayed at their stations for as long as humanly possible to keep the lights and communications on for as long as possible is absolutely amazing. It's just unfortunate people were so afraid of using lifeboats for more than shuttling between ships that they couldn't wait for each one to be fully loaded, and they even refused to return to the ship to finish loading because they were afraid the suction would pull them all under. Except for Molly Brown. Anyway, about half the passengers could have been saved on the lifeboats, to say nothing of if they'd lashed as much large wooden furniture together as possible and floated it from the deck as the bow sank. Another unfortunate issue is that because Captain Smith postponed the evacuation drill, nobody knew what to do, and many people got lost belowdecks, or simply didn't make it to the lifeboats. Again, following procedure will save lives. _Titanic_ is why maritime regulations were finally changed so there would always be enough lifeboats for all, why evacuation drills are mandatory wherever a craft takes on a number of passengers and/or crew, and why nobody goes 'this is far enough' on safety measures anymore.
Regardless, there's no such thing as an unsinkable anything. _HMHS Britannic_ had everything her older sister needed to survive, but because the force of the explosion from the mine she struck warped the frames of her watertight doors, they could not close. But because of the improvements to the davits, the lifeboats, and evacuation drills, everyone who was not killed by the explosion or initial flooding, or in the two lifeboat launches that went ahead of time and got caught in the propellers (Violet Jessup survived again), I believe everyone got off safely.
But losing two out of their three big ships a few years apart was a massive blow to White Star Line, from which they would never recover. They and Cunard Line were ordered to merge during the Depression, and control of shares and company was determined by hull tonnage. Even with the ships the Germans had to give up as part of the reparations, Cunard still had more. Especially once _Mauretania_ and _Olympic_ were both scrapped in 1935. J. Bruce Ismay tried to build a superliner, _Oceanic III_ , to save his company, but after his death and the exec left in charge was caught in corruption charges, that was basically it. The remaining execs decided to go with two smaller motor vehicles, _Britannic II_ , which was always supposed to be _Oceanic III_ 's running mate, and _Georgic_ . _Georgic_ was a bit too unlucky as well, but _Britannic_ had a good career. But Cunard put a lot more into _Queen Mary_ and _Queen Elizabeth_ , and these were the premiere ocean liners of their day, competing with France's _Normandie_ (until it had a fiery accident while under American care. Safety again).
William Francis Gibbs was a bit fire safety obsessed after _Morro Castle_ and _Normandie_ , while he was designing _SS United States_ . On his insistence, the only wood allowed aboard were the cutting boards in the kitchens, and the grand piano, which built from mahogany, was demonstrated not to burn even when doused in gasoline and lit on fire. Gibbs was _not_ 'okay,' but that worked to everyone's advantage. _SS United States_ is not the largest ocean liner to ever sail, but she is the fastest, and still holds the Blue Riband, because no ocean liner or cruise liner since was ever built for a greater speed. Air liners have _that_ covered.
Kip...Mistress does not refer to just an S&M relationship, it originally meant and still is used in the context as a lady a husband might see if they're not being faithful to their wife XD
They weren't in an S&M relationship. He was cheating on his wife with her.
kip every time he sees a money number
"wait, that was back then money"
also for extra info they have a QnA on the second channel, clears up a lot
I believe he watched the QnA already, unless it was taken down like his older reaction to this
Weirdly enough it wasn’t even that long ago so inflation hasn’t changed much
@@texastea.2734 I was curious so I looked it up. The Costa Concordia was built in 2005. The dollar was effectively worth $1.57 back then almost twenty years ago. An almost sixty cent rise in inflation.
For my whole life, this is the first time i heard someone connect being a mistress as S&M thing. Typically when people hear mistress, it means like a side chick. Someone who your boyfriend/husband is cheating you with. I'm sure that's why they said they're in a romantic relationship coz they mean mistress as in a sidechick, "the captain's lover" like they said in the vid.
Lying during a panic is a bad idea because once the passengers learn whats actually going on they wont trust a word you say and thats when the real panic happens. You wont be able to direct them because they will assume you are lying.
Kip being WAY too polite here.
As a European, i can assure you, it is Italy, it was 100% Corruption.
ALL the shit that seemed Sketchy, most likely was.
The Red Baron was shot down because he followed an enemy plane for so long that he ended up in enemy territory. Once he realized that, it was already too late. His last words apparently were "Kaputt"
It's widely speculated that he let himself be shot down on purpose and that it was a form of suicide.
Just couldn't catch Snoopy, could he?
Definitely need to see the follow-up incognito video on Concordia where IH answers questions and expands on the context of the story. For example, the area where the ship sank has to be cordoned off and restricted access, which severely harms the fishermen of the island for losing a valuable fishing location. In exchange, the cleanup crew plus a larger tourism flow came to the island to see the wreck, which does boost the economy of the islanders (doesn't much help the fishermen, though).
My favourite wreck story is that of the _SS America_ . After its service with America Lines, it went through various other owners, some of whom did not maintain her properly. The worst was Venture Cruises, who wanted to run short cruises out of the port, but couldn't be bothered to even clean up the garbage that had accumulated. Passengers took one look at the mess and demanded to be let off immediately. Venture did try again, but with only a surface cleaning, and with the same results, and bankruptcy. _America_ was then bought to be made into a hotel or seaborne university. While being towed, she encountered a storm, and the towing cable broke. She ended up washing up on the beach of an island (forget which), where the hull was pounded by ocean surf while companies refused to accept responsibility and pay to have her refloated. The ocean broke _America_ 's keel, at which point there were two halves of the hulk. The surf broke down the aft portion first, then the bow. Some of it might still be there, but I think it's pretty much all eroded away. There are famous photos of the front half just sitting there, open to the world. But to me, this was the ship refusing any further misuse. She chose to go out on her own terms.
Yes steering a large boat like the Costa Concordia is basically trying to drift a big rig into parking spots like a sports car.
It's more like driving on ice tbh. Hit the brakes and you slide to a stop, bow thrusters and whatnot help make them more maneuverable but yea the lack of instant reactions
They use tugs to pull big ships into port, they don't pull in by themselves. Sometimes, *sometimes* they pull out of port under their own power.
@@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly They also use local pilots to navigate into and out of port. Pilot comes on from a small boat to get to port, and coming out of port when you pass a certain distance from the port they get off and return to their little boat. Because, and this is important, the local pilots know all the various things to be aware of, including/especially treacherous rocks.
@@theshadowherself okay...did I say something wrong? Or are you just adding to what I said?
Quick note for 53:25, this is apparently not as well known as I thought (since Internet Historian and anyone I've seen react to this comments on the hair in a way that shows they don't understand), for whatever reason many form of drugs end up being "constructed" into your hair when you take it, so human hair can be taken and analyzed as containing a history of the different drugs you've taken. It works especially well for illegal stuff. So, as long as you have any of the same hair from the time you've had illegal drugs, authorities can take that and analyze it to find out about it.
(remember that hair regularly falls out, so over the course of a few years you no longer have the same hair you once did)
I like the attention to the official statements you give! At the uni I work for there are a lot of problems with this. Students get caught on "plagiarism", which is actually them copypasting quotes in meaning to rewrite them in their own words later and forgetting that (no joke), but IF you admit to doing that in the hopes of proving that it was an honest mistake you are indirectly admitting to plagiarism and will be punished accordingly, no matter how understandable the reasons are. So we have an info letter that every accused student gets telling them what NOT to do when being heard by the plagiarism committee (because obviously not every student has a lawyer) to avoid being suspended for 6 years over such a stupid mistake, because it HAS happened before. :')
Weird unrelated story, I know! My point is: please, think CAREFULLY what you say in situations where every word can have long term consequences!
Imagine being a direct cause to the death of 33 people because you weren't qualified to be a helm's men, and you just go on the run..
Well he probably expected bad times ahead if they caught him, so deemed it a better idea to disappear.
Isn’t his fault if they put him in that position. I wouldn’t be shocked one bit if Costa didn’t help insure he had plenty of money and help in not being found. Him not testifying is literally best case scenario for the company.
I mean hell.. imagine being the captain whose bright idea it was to sail as close to the rocks as possible at full speed. And then immediately running from every responsibility you have and lying about it multiple times. 😂 which he got his in the end I guess.
I can 100% see a scenario in which it is policy and potentially even the right move to provide false information to passengers to control panic in an emergency. THERE IS NO SCENARIO WHERE GIVING FALSE INFORMATION TO THE COAST GUARD IS ACCEPTABLE! That is functionally a combination EMS, Police, and Navy, and it carries the combined authority of all 3. They exist to save lives when things go wrong. Anyone who gets in the way of that mission DESERVES jail time.
The crush incident you're referring to in the 70s took place in Cincinnati, Ohio and was at a concert by The Who at the former Riverfront Coliseum. There was only one set of doors open at the time, the crowd got the impression that they heard the show about to start, and they rushed forward to the only open entrance.
Wrong definition of mistress Kip. Mistress in this context means person hrs cheating on his wife with
Kip consider that in terms of the blackout and the electrical systems being flooded conductivity by volume is not the issue. It's salt water, the whole thing while flooded is completely shorted out. Even if they could turn it on without endangering the crew in the engine room it would not have worked.
She wasn’t an S&M mistress. She was the AshleyMadison type
2 dudes in overalls with a ladder can get past at least 75% of company security checkpoints unquestioned.
I remember this video… still can’t believe how stupid the captain was.
Not just stupid, but actually definitively evil.
Couple of recommendations related to this video if you want more info on either the Costa Condoria Incident, nautical knowledge, or maritime law.
I'm sure plenty of people have recommended the Costa Concordia Q&A video from Internet Historian with some extra stuff about the video that was changed, removed, and expanded upon.
There's also video reaction of IH from Sailor Vince (active or former coast guard, don't remember exactly) who adds some additional knowledge as it pertains to nautical matters.
And if you are curious about maritime law when incidents that include loss of life happen, you can watch the videos about the El Farro from Attorney Tom (in conjunction with Brick Immortar). He goes into the specifics of the archaic sham that is maritime law. Like how maritime companies more or less have to sue the victims' families when their loved ones die on their ships, yes that is in fact how it works in the Limitations of Liability Act 1851.
Anyways, keep up the great videos!
There was another reaction done by "sailorvince", he was in the coast guard and gives his observations coming from someone with experience working on a ship. If you are interested in getting a better idea of the ship aspect of the incident, he gives a pretty good break down.
Near as I can figure his appeal attempts were probably based on how the trial was conducted. If I remember correctly, in the incognito follow-up video Internet Historian talked about how his argument was that there were multiple people who were just as responsible as him for the disaster, but the state had only given them a slap on the wrist. Also, several of them testified against him and were flat out lying about events with no repercussion.
It wasn't actually called 'Skull Rock.' Probably didn't have a name at all.
Fun fact: Carnival Cruiselines, the parent company, also owns Cunard, which were White Star's primary competition, and the reason the Olympic-class ocean liner was built. Among the Cunard fleet is the _only_ ocean liner that still does the transatlantic crossing, _Queen Mary 2_ . She has no rudder because two of her four engine pods can turn, and her bow has a set of maneuvering props, so she doesn't even need tugs to dock. Although _QM2_ is the largest ocean liner ever built, she was able to respond to a massive rogue wave by turning into it in time to minimize damage.
First Officer: Captain we are approaching the coast!
Francesco Schettino: BOAT goes brrr
The ships bell is a very important traditional item on ships off the top of my head it was used for christening children during voyages and the child’s name would be engraved into the bell in some instances its considered the ships soul it has a high value for naval collectors
More likely it was melted down for scrap. Easier to get rid of that way.
@@lolbuster01
A hell of a lot of trouble and danger to go to for a few bucks in brass scrap. I don't know about that.
“OSHA TOS” is so accurate. 😂
One of the biggest rules the Red Baron broke of his own rules is going into combat injured. He had suffered head trauma in the battle prior to his final flight and had acted very differently to how he normally did as attested by the members of the Flying Circus which was arguably the largest cause that led him to his final flight.
Good thing the copyright claim is gone. Glad to see this video back up, Kip. 👍
Once upon a time there was a theater... I forget if this is America or England... We're talking 1800s at least... Theater... Holds a day event for kids... Kids... Are kids... This place is PACKED with kids from the floor to the balcony... Adults on stage get the bright idea to throw candy and toys into the audience and "Get the prizes while you can"...
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Thanks to the way the stairwell was set up and the ways the doors moved... The kids in the balcony literally caused such a frenzy that they literally CRUSHED themselves to death trying to get 2 cent toys and sweets...
The Victoria hall disaster
The positive was that an eyewitness to that tragedy invented the crashbar and lobbied aggressively for its use in nearly all public buildings specifically so that nothing like that would ever have to happen again.
Next time you go basically anywhere out in public, notice how you don't have to use a traditional turning doorknob at virtually any point? That's because crashbars or the like have almost universally supplanted them.
The captain did make the correct choices in the heat of the moment, but, the captain was also responsible for having an inexperienced helmsman doing a risky maneuver. The captain could have relieved the helmsman and called up a more experienced helmsman to do it, and let the new guy practice out on the open sea where there is very little to crash in to. Also, the captain is responsible for making sure standard procedure is followed, and making sure the third offircer was calling that out. Basically, on a ship, the captain is God, but the captain is also responsible for EVERYTHING that happens on that ship.
Also it’s interesting you brought up the people whose job it is to find security weaknesses and who dress up and try to get in places without the technical proper security checks on them.
In high school I worked at six flags great adventure in NJ over the summer between junior and senior year. I worked in food so we would rotate around duties. Sometimes you’d be making the food, sometimes you’re stocking, sometimes you’re on register. Well six flags had just recently started a partnership with Discover where if you used a discover card to pay for your food, you would get a certain % back. I think it was 5% but I can’t remember. Anyway, obviously discover paid for this partnership, so they want their card to be pushed as much as possible, because the point of it is to incentivize people to get a discover card because they can get that 5% or whatever it was back. So, we were told to ask literally every single customer after they placed their order and we gave them their total “would you like to use discover card to save 5%”? Or something like that. And in order to ensure that we were doing this, the park actually had people who would go around dressed like regular visitors to the park, go up to order food, and see if you asked them this question. If you did, you would get some kind of reward. I forget exactly what it is was, like you could get a gift card to the gift shops and stuff or win like a free water bottle or something small like that. And if you didn’t, you wouldn’t even know. They’d just go on their way and you’d hear about it later or next shift or something and you’d be warned that you had a random check at some point recently and you didn’t ask them if they wanted to use discover so it was a warning. I think you got 3 warnings then you’d be either terminated or not allowed on register for awhile or something. It was annoying and stupid, but I understood why they did it. Discover paid a lot of money for it, so they wanted their money’s worth out of it. I’ll be honest, I didn’t say it to everyone. Because I knew the rules of the people pretending to be visitors. They had to wear certain clothing because they’re still working and for liability issues. So they had to be in closed toe shoes, and had to be in pants and at least a t shirt. They also couldn’t be in line with any friends or family. So I never said it to anyone who was barefoot or wearing flip flops or something, or wearing shorts, or didn’t have a shirt on or were wearing a tank top or bathing suit top. Or anyone who was in line with other people who were also dressed that way, or to anyone who was in line with kids. Because I knew they COULDN’T be those people. Any time anyone in line fit the description that they COULD be one of those people, which was actually very very rare in the middle of summer, I said it. Even then, only 1 time was it ever actually one of those people and I think I got a $25 gift card to use at any of the gift shops in the park lol
Oh my god I didn't realize how bad inflation has been over the years! When you said "it's more in today's money" I checked an inflation calculator and it's over 770 million in today's money. I knew inflation was bad but has the dollar really been losing a 5th of it's value every 10 years while minimum wage has stayed the same?
Edit - spelling
That's what the banks don't tell you-and what they'd rather not have you figure out for yourself.
Every six years, they effectively _steal_ fifty percent of your savings through the runaway inflation that drives their entire sector.
It occurred about 3 months before the 100th anniversary of the Titanic (as seen in the vid, the capsize occurred on January 13th, the Titanic Sinking was on April 14-15th).
It's crazy seeing you react to internet historian vids again (not like in a bad way or anything) I found your channel from one of your original internet historian react vids
I know some of the old ones are really rough to watch, so I wanted to modernize them. It's also a better watch for new viewers.
Thanks for sticking around so long! It's been a journey to get here.
@KipReacts I hope you check Internet historian qna video about this on his 2nd channel. Also, there was a good video where guy who works in ship industry reacted to this vid, he explained lots of things very well which included how schettino moved from position of head of the security to captain of ship.
@@KipReactsoh nvm you already reacted to this video earlier
i'm just waiting for the next martincitopants kerbal scuffed programm reaction.... (with youtube it can be wierd sometimes so your concern with music is understadable) good thing most of the music martin uses is video game music and shouldn't cause copyright issues if you are concerned.
So with making the ship into an artificial reef they would've needed to bring it back afloat anyways. This is so they can bring it to drydock and start ship-breaking the entire vessel, removing all the wires and other valuable materials. It would've been an entire process. So yeah they would've needed to tow it back to the dock anyways.
1:18:39 from what I understand, while that area of the world has extradition treaties (treaties that let law enforcement from other countries come and arrest criminals that commit crimes in their country), they only really help enforce and comply with it if said criminal isn’t a national. Unless they are also committing crimes in their country, you actually have to come down (at your own expense) and find them yourselves. Oh and local law enforcement won’t help either quote “it’s sound like a you problem.” Oh and if they do comply cause the person in question isn’t a national and/or is committing crimes in their country you still need to come down and help them, but you’re trip and stay will be paid for and basically be in charge of the whole precinct until you find your guy.
The QA video from IH has great details.
You know Kip, I wasn’t the biggest fan of the model initially, but I got to admit it is really growing on me. The tracking especially is really nice.
0:55 When the ship was built in 2005, it cost $812,762,119 USD in today's money
Dude! I looked it up. Vada abordo, Cazzo means "Go aboard, Fuck!" God; De Falco wasn't having it!
He was cussing like a...
...sailor? 😉
(I know this is very old now, but I only just saw this video)
In regards to what they're appealing on, more than likely they're appealing on the grounds that more than only Scattino were responsible for the wrecking of the ship (somewhat fair argument), and/or probably on the grounds that he was panicking under pressure (not fair and ludicrous argument)...
Glad the appeals got rejected, sad that Carnival was released of responsibility. It's also likely that Carnival was released partially because Italy is so reliant on Carnival (and other cruise lines) for their tourism, which is highly profitable for Italy.
The reason ships group the engines together it to reduce the amount of separate components each each engine will need. Modern cruise ships are usually single stack designs where these "stacks" such as the whale tail on Carnival ships, can bethe exhaust and radiator for all 6 engines instead of taking up interior or deck space with exhaust pipes and other equipment. Plus grouping all the propulsion parts together makes servicing them extremely easy as all the spare parts and maintenence tools for those huge diesels is all in a single spot.
I want to throw a reaction suggestion out there because it's something interesting that I've never seen anyone react to. The Aviation Accidents Explained series from the channel Mentour Pilot. They are incredibly fascinating. They vary in length, from 20 min to an hour. If I had to give a suggestion, a good one is Southwest Airlines Flight 1380, but they're all worth watching. And based on the commentary you gave for this video I think it would suit you very well.
Omg Kip. IH was not sayin they were in an S&M relationship. He's saying the captain was cheating on his wife with her.
Di Falco joining the Italian senate means he’s seen not only the fuckery of the Costa Concordia but also of Tifa Lockheart. God bless.
"What could go wrong? On Friday the thirteenth!"
"Of January"
58:00 as someone who has walked into some pretty crazy areas and situations, its kind of crazy how much playing dumb and just pretty much confidinentlty bumbling around if that makes sense, allows you to get into all sorts of places that allow you to overhear stuff and witness things.
to be clear i have always had legit reasons to be in those scenerios, the clomplatency of procedure aint on me, its on them, i am there for a job, the job gets done, what i hear or see along the way is on them.
2:41 BRO I just realized that when the Concordia sank, it wasn't the first time he crashed it, when he crashed the Concordia INTO THE PORT WTF
By the way, there's an entire documentary made from passenger recordings of the disaster that's about as long as The Cost Of Concordia.
Edit: and at 57:30, that's what physical penetration testing is. It's the absolute test of a site's security to thwart intrusion, more than just picking the lock on a back door, but every single aspect that's meant to keep assailants out.
Why tf would you lie to a harbourmaster
And yes water conducts electricity but it also has resistance. Meaning the more water the current has to travel through, the more resistance it faces, the lower the voltage is the further away you are. Just like how wires lose voltage the longer they are, that’s why low resistance cables and boosting the voltage at the end back to the target voltage before converting it is important
Richtofen's fall was a mix of arrogance and brain damage from a pervious serious crash.
As to Titanic, the watertight bulkheads didn't go above E deck, I believe. However, this wasn't much of a factor as enough compartments were breaches by the iceberg sideswipe to doom the ship. Titanic was rated to have the first 4 flooded, among other possible conditions, but the first 5 were breached.
If you want more details Sailor Vince. He did a react but he is a member of Canada's Navy. One of things he brings up is lot of cruise liners place their engines and emergency power on the bottom and close together to maximize space.
Oh 100% confidence will take you far, the Game Awards kid apparently got up and walked with them so confident no one even asked who he was with or if he was supposed to be there
CZcams did you dirty. I’m immediately after your explanation at 46:00 I got a 10 seconds “Nerds” add.
05:24 There are protocols, yes. Drafted and implemented, guess what? *After* the debacle that was the sinking of the Costa Concordia.
About sinking the ship: Off hand earlier Internet Historian mentioned that the last body was found on the ship 3 years after the disaster, so they were fimding bodies of the deceased as they dismantled it
That's horrible. It's wild how quickly the world moves on.
@@KipReacts that's my theory about why they scrapped the ship instead of sinking it. To recover thr bodies
So while I appreciate a different take, the reason I didn’t give the captain any benefit of the doubt from the beginning is because from the very start everything was completely avoidable if he’d just enforced following procedure. Then, on top of that, he lied both to the passengers (POSSIBLY understandable) and to the harbor master
Edit: De Falco was Captain of the port of Livorno at the time of the shipwreck. Given the circumstances, I don’t think cursing the other captain out was unprofessional given the guy was abandoning ship and basically was being derelict of duty. That’s just me though XD
Loved the Legend of the Five Rings shoutout. (Unicorn Clan for life!)
Battle Maiden Unicorn was fun, but my clan will always be Mantis.
Sad the game went the way it did, but it was definitely a fun game to get into.
1:19:22 their ground is, it's not whole just his fault, that the crew members that onboard that day, and the company were at fault. Example, in Ciro Ambrosio's testimony, he said he was confused who was in command, yet the audio provide that Schetino did declared to be in charge, and Dominica Cermotta wasn't on the command room to distract him. Or Silvia the 3rd Official, didn't relay the coordinate to the captain, or the incompetence of Jacob Rusli Bin. Also the company was at fault because they provided a ship with with faulty water tight door, make it impossible to salvage the situation.
Ofc, Schetino definitely hold the biggest fault, but so the other crew members and the company who were get away easy with plea deal. Which base on this he might said "they were all got away easy, why can't i."
For US shipping the USCG issue you the Captain license once you pass the class and have so many sea time under your belt. There are two types, small tonnage which is basically off to coastline to oil rigs and then there's the big ocean which is basically our cruise ship and your ocean liners and your cargo ships.
The captain up until right after the collision was doing great as far as I am concerned, its what he does after the collision that's the issue. No bs, if he had just calmly ordered abandon ship, we wouldn't even be talking about it all these years later.
No, electricity doesn't get diluted, at least in the sense of "bigger conductor = safer". But that's _not_ to say that the geometry of the situation doesn't matter at all. Draw a straight line between the positive and negative electrodes: the further you are from that line, the less current will be running through your body. And in a lake, you can get a lot further away than if you were in a bathtub.
The length of that imaginary line is also important. If the two electrodes are very close together, than the current through the water will drop off very quickly with distance, so you could get quite close before entering the danger zone. However, if the electrodes are far apart, the voltage gradient will be much more uniform, and thus a larger chunk of the lake would be in the danger zone.
But on the other hand, a more uniform electric field means that there's less voltage across the swimmer to push current through them. So, as the electrodes get even further apart, there comes a point where, eventually, there's not enough of a voltage gradient _anywhere in the lake_ for it to be dangerous.
Rule of three's this ship was fated to sink.
This man's made a legend of the five rings ref, god I feel old now...
If the first officers "mistake" of 335 instead of 325 hadnt been ignored then it would have offset the deviation from the delay.
I still think that wasnt a mistake or incompetence. I think the first officer tried to fix a mess and got overruled by an inexperienced fool
I'm fairly certain that the electric current from a high-voltage source dissipates over sqrt(distance)/resistance (ohms). Or maybe it's the cube root, I'm not 100% on that. What I _do_ know is that A) it's an exponential function and B) the human body has less resistance than the ground. This means that you can get electrocuted by simply walking too close to downed power lines due to the current differential across your legs. When your legs start to tingle, put your feet together and hop away.
Also, the guy who's career is going into businesses to bypass security? That's called a pen tester, short for penetration tester (giggity), and it's definitely on my bucket list of jobs. That specific method is referred to as "social engineering".
Scorpion clan? Oh, nice to meet a brother. I too can swim.
Am i the only one who finds the rotted snd destoryed "after" images having a haunting beauty to them?
sick new model brev
1:21:47 must because it would be a waste of material. A huge part of the ship hasn't be damage by sea water, could be reuse in other ship.
Oh hey haven't watched in a while cuz finals always suck as usuals, but cool new model you have there Kip
To quote Darkest Dungeon: Overconfidence is a Slow and Insidious killer
Hope you also do the q and a after
Technically it was Oswald Boelcke that laid out the rules the red baron just followed them to the letter
That L5R reference though. XD
I regularly refer to things in L5R speak.
Me going to a restraunt after SCA is me, "Bowing out and Assigning to Province."
Its one of the best games I've ever played.
Incognito mode reaction when?
The red Baron was shot down because he got tunnel vision and only cared about shooting down this one guy pissed him off
Respectfully, i disagree that the helmsman was at fault for running the Costa Concordia on the rocks. First the company failed to hire someone who spoke the lingua franca, second the captain allowed an environment on the bridge that was conducive to the failure to follow proper procedures for safe navigation, and third (and most important) the Captain of the ship is ultimately responsible for the safe navigation of the ship and the health and welfare of the passengers and the crew by Maritime law.
Pure water resist curent impurities in water cause it to conduct, no water naturally found is pure so essentially yea water in most cases is conductive.
If I may recommend some more legally interesting antics, Tex Talks History: The Dr. Christmas Story has some delicious reenacted court transcripts from a most peculiar man at the beginning of aviation.
The costa concordia react 2: The Kipenning :p
Old folks recall. Inc Q&A
28:50 it dont matter, generators and motors that would be providing power are dead anyways. electical panels being submerged is just icing on the cake.
im not sure if it would be that big of a deal anyways, electicity is generally only scary if you provide it a path through, and being submerged in a room that likely has exposed metal connected the the hull provides a much easier path to ground then a body in the water. but im not an electrical engineer so maybe im wrong XD
Kinda hard to give the man who was still on the control deck a raise and promotion when he died with the ship.
I don't know the scientific aspects of artificial reefs, but I do know that a major company wouldn't want a monument to their negligence for all to see.
In this situation he shouldn't have lie no matter what. It was the worst decision ever. And abandoned ship too was the worst too while people still on the fucking ship
“Mistress” is the feminine equivalent of “Master,” so IS used in kinky settings (like “Dominatrix,” the feminine of “Dominator,” is) but just as “Mister” is a weakened form of “Master” used as a general title of address, “Miss” and “Misses” are the same for “Mistress.” And because of that, a classic euphemism for “the girl he’s cheating on his wife with” is “mistress.” Because she is a woman connected with him, but ain’t his Mrs. (wife), and ain’t a Miss (which implies virginity along with being literally unmarried because of patriarchal purity culture).
1:20 it was already run aground and sanken. i dont think they would be able to sink it any futher from that position. they woul still have to float it and move it. unless you are suggesting that they leave it as is, below water is for divers and abover water is for urban climbers? XD that would be a neat place to explore i think :P would do.
There are real ship navigator that is reacted to the cost of concordia , maybe you can check it out , He will tell the inside of sea world also he also done research about concordia case
I would say the family of crew members could still sue. Since this death was caused by negligence, its very provable that if evacuations had started when they should have then he would have been in far less risk, it will typically not be covered hy waivers. Well at least not in US court, im not 100% certain on how that plays out internationally.
The lie from the captain from the star ruin trust from the passengers
Design of the engines a lobbying issue from cruise ships. Also part of the reason why its not law to actually wear a lifejacket on a ship and only have one with you thats effected smaller fishing boats etc.
Military ships do space the engines out to provide redundancy. Cruise liners dont because it becomes an annoying noise issue for the guests
Rewatching old videos? Crazy new trend lol
Kip likes talking about stuff, what's wrong with a rewatch?
It's updating them. Once the new surpass the old I'm debating on removing the old content.
@@KipReactsCan't wait for da HOLE. And Ze Varus.
@@KipReactsBut then it won’t be a first time react. That’s the fun of watching reactions.
32:20 lives matter more than a piece of floating metal.