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An "Objectively Accurate" Sights Tier List | Escape from Tarkov
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- čas přidán 27. 05. 2022
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first of all just because im saying this i am not shitting on levi's content, its one of the best out there imo, but a little pop-up image of the reticle in game would be really nice.
Reeeeeeeeeee u just hate him reeeeeeeee!
I agree, but I can live without it.
Yeah, that’s a fair point
yesss please
That's an _accurate_ critique.
As an owner of the EXPS3-0 with the 3x magnifier I'm appalled at how dirty they did this thing. It's a joy to use IRL, but in game it sucks.
I feel the same way. In my opinion, I think magnifiers would be the meta if they fixed all the bugs and improved the eye relief.
@@ninjamero7135 the eye relief when moving is pretty realistic, because frankly the G33 doesn't have the most forgiving eyebox. However, there's no reason that any rifle this is mounted on should have scope shadow while standing completely still.
Hope they never add a eye box feature to the game then lol.
A stand-alone magnifier would be really cool imo
@@alexmaurice4274 The HHS in game is 2 separate optics in real life (Eotech G33 Magnifier and EXPS 3-0) It definitely would be pleasant seeing them make the magnifiers a separate optics so could pair it up to other optics (Holosun, Aimpoint T1, etc) given proper optic height.
I for one love the 2x and 2.5x sights. A lot of my engagements are lost in that awkward middle ground. With a little patience, they can be used at greater ranges, and up-close, point-firing will make up for the zoom.
Yeah I really enjoy the Monstrum, but on certain guns mostly. Especially on a suppressed mp155 with ap20s, thats one of my favorite weapon loadouts.
@@joepapa71 I personally rock the superperformance slugs. It preserves the armor they're wearing and I don't feel so guilty one tapping people in the chest
the only time i ever got a server wipe was with the 2x on a .45 vector. i even took out a sniper that was using that green sniper
try the 155 and the eotech at night its far enough out it doesnt blind you deadly af
@@comradesillyotter1537 doesnt superformance have terrible penetration though?
The magnifier needs to just be an attachment for the eotech sights like the cobra shade
I love taking a saiga with 6 flashlights and the thermal reflex to factory, because everything is close range and it is so incredibly fun. Everyone is completely blind, but you can see perfectly fine, as the thermals aren't affected by flashlights
One thing to take into consideration if you run the eotechs at night, they will blind you. Although the PK-120 and Krechet are kind of downgrades, the reticule is beautiful in night vision. Krechet is my go to
Edit: This was fixed as of the 12.12.30 Patch with the new NV system. EOTechs are now slappin
you actually use goggles? just turn your gamma up check the json file and you will see that all NVG does to intensify the image is increasing the gamma value. the additional overexposure filter is a straight disadvantage to changing your monitor or graphics card settings.
@@reallydontlikethem i like feeling like Sam Fisher so yes i use the goggles. im also not gonna rummage around my files needlessly when i can just slap nods on in game. night only lasts so long and i dont trust myself
@@reallydontlikethem That's pretty cringe dude. NVGs are 100% an advantage especially at seeing out longer ranges.
Srs sight is amazing for nv
dude the krechet is insane
as a big fan of the UH-1 Vortex sight im sad that i agree with it being in D tier, it just gets outclassed by all the eo-techs, only time i find my self using it is when i find one in raid during a scav run
I like it too ngl, but his points are valid
I feel like the vortex and other big red dots like the eotech 553 help a lot with high recoil builds for sure like the sa58 or ash12
And it's -4 ergo which can really take your ADS speed down on some builds
@@d2rat ash 12 high recoil???
@@d2rat i run it on dt mdr's 7.62. Love it
I tried using the thermal reflex on a canted mount as a scuffed heartbeat sensor, if you're peaking a corner or a dark room or a long hallway and you're not sure if someone's there I just glance at the sight and if I see red I know someone or at least a dead body is there but it only really works in average engagement distance.
Edit: I must add that you cannot see the thermal from the hip with most sights other than reflex sights, works fine if you're ADSing with almost all sights
thats actaully smart ima use that aswell thx for thr tip
money money money
I was wondering if that would work
17:30 ish. Why the backup sight woobles ontop of the acogs. *Nerd-Moment* It's probably because you give up your solid cheek-weld to look through them thereby making the gun a bit more unstable in relation to your eye.
Or, the sheer sight over bore distance makes the reticle bounce more hence making the recoil feel bigger.
Both wrong lol
Seems like you just don't appreciate "nipple" sight enough. I find it amazing for any buckshot/flechette shotgun or the (arguably cursed) vpo-209 with ap-m ammo and actually using it as a shotgun.
It honestly helps you not over think your shots, just place the whole thing over the legs and tap
If they ever fix the sensitivity bug on the Schmitt and Bender 1-8 (tan Vudu) they cost around the same as the tac 30. If your planning on running long-range maps it has a place for being budget friendly.
Yeah the sens is too low, otherwise its a decent scope
Is it just me or does the 1x setting seem more like 2.5x or something like that on the scope?
I never use it without a canted sight or top mounted reddot
They just need to add a monitor distance coefficient slider, allowing you to match sensitivity across all optics by scaling the 1x sens to the FOV of whatever scope you’re using, and voila problem solved, everyone has the perfect sens for every scope in the game.
If you talking about making tier list, you MUST put 2 pictures: scope photo and it's inside grid/dot picture - how it looks when you aim though it
The Vudu scope price has been holding steady this wipe since it’s quest locked behind a pretty heavy late game quest chain
No way your still alive. Havent seen you in months
@@alex59248 still kickin’
@@ScavsAteMyLegs must be pretty hard without legs
@@ScavsAteMyLegs with what legs?
Isn’t it just locked behind the kill 10 rogues quest? It’s relatively easy if you do a couple of sniping runs on lighthouse. It’s also not comparable to late game quests. Fucking kill 20 usec PMC’s above or at level 50 and kill 20 bear PMC’s above or at level 50. Now that’s a fuck you quest.
A lot of these sights that are just outclassed have an x factor in real life that just can't translate to games well.
The UH-1 Vortex holo is great IRL because it's usually $100-200 cheaper than the equivalent eotech and Vortex has industry-leading customer service. I actually bought one for my AR in real life cause I liked the reticle
The eotechs with multiple dots are obviously for range, I'd love to have it in like, Squad where you may be engaging people at like 400m but there's not much point using it in Tarkov
The acro hooded red dot is actually considered by a lot to be the next evolution of micro dots, because the hood prevents dirt from getting in the emitter and stopping the dot from projecting.
And finally the RMR in real life is an absolute beast of an optic known for its legendary durability
Of course none of those things translate into the game, I just think it's interesting to see what you lose with adapting it for the game
I did not know any of those things, this is pretty cool to learn. Thanks a lot for that info mate
The UH-1 is more expensive than most eotech now idk what you are smoking
Uh1 is ~900$, eotech 512 (an older version) is a bit under 400
Idk why you'd ever use a UH1
@@user-zx4vq4uk9c The UH-1 was a $500-600 optic when I bought it just a few months ago.
To answer your other questions: the reticle, and Vortex's warranty
@@tinytim7350 Wasn't when I bought it, but depending on where you looked the prices were comparable
Call me crazy but I really like using the Krechet. THe reticle is super clean for night vision and on my mp7 it actually reduces the recoil I feel with it. Maybe it's just me tho
yeah love it for night vision only problem his the height over bore
@@Ed-zm8md For the MP7 it actually reduces felt recoil, which is why I use it
I love the krechet too I use all the time on mp9 leg muncher
9:37 WHAT. I LOVE IT. This changes nothing, but still, it is amazing for guns like the VSS, where you want a bit of range and a nice close range optic.
The RMR bounce on the ACOG is pretty accurate tbh. I have one installed on an M16A4 that I take to the range quite regularly and on snap shoots and movement shoots it’s kind of a pain to acquire a target on a consistent basis due to the fact that it sits so high above the sight itself. Breaking cheek weld to use the RMR and the re-acquiring cheek weld is a real pain (in my opinion).
A note about the EOTECH with the two dots: the first dot is for targets out to 100 meters, and the one below it is for targets at ~200 meters.
Eotech with magnifier has treated me really well. I slapped that on a suppressed VPO-136 and killed Shturman and his guards from sniper rock with it.
I really liked the kobra, but BSG can never seem to get it into a place they want. It's like every other week they wanna make the reticle phatter with bloom, or thinner and tight. It baffles me.
A good middle ground could be letting the two versions be distinct from each other with their reticles.
Make the dovetail Kobra (the older versions) have the fat and fuzzy reticle while the picatinny has a clearer dot (due to it being newer).
I personally love the Krechet; I run a lot of night time and the sight doesn't glow and is very clear. The only problem I've faced with it is height over bore at close ranges, mainly for when I'm shooting out lights, but that's something you get a feeling for
ACOGs are pretty awesome in real life. Used them in the USMC. Battery free illuminated reticle, and the reticle is great for ranging targets and engaging at various distances. It's really good for long range accurate fire, but isn't great for CQB.
The XPS3-2 has two dots for zeroing. the first one should be 100m and the second should be 200m zeroing
And irl thats great...but in game its way too busy
@@tyranus1111 That's why I always say it would be a great optic in Squad or Arma, not so much in Tarkov
The 1p69/1p59 are brilliant, they are dirt cheap and the x3/x10 is perfect for long range head shots. The reticle is a bit busy and having the illumination on the mode selection is annoying, but at that price it's no big deal. Not to mention they also have a dovetail mount, which negate the need for an adapter mount which put the scope so high that it blocks half the screen.
The srs sight, is one of my favorites because of the reticle. I can deal with the housing, but it is one of if not the best sights to use for night vision. It is 1 times so you don't get that darkening effect and it has almost no blur through night vision.
Try using the t1 with sun shade
I love your tier video. Could you include sight picture of each scope? It would help newbies understand why you ranked a sight over another one.
The old recoil system used to pivot the gun up from the firing hand during continuous fire. Since the higher you go up on a gun, the further you are from the pivot point, and the more amplified recoil will appear to affect sights that are mounted on top of optics.
25:30 you can use this sight for corridor fighting, get a canted sight for everything else and then when you are in say dorms in a room, blind peak and you can just see the screen and crosshairs.
the eotech with the 3x zoom is acc really good. the recoil thing is a myth for sure. and the dots on it are used for acusition at range. each dot is for 100m out
im a year late but mildots etc are useless in eft. Yes, you will know the range, but if you range your gun to 100m it will still not shoot accurately at 100m because different bullets have different velocities despite being the same caliber (obviously).
Just realized I've never ran like 90% of these sights
If I need a red dot I just run a kobra and if I need something with a bit more range there's like 4 scopes I'll use
the compact prism scope is actually really underrated. ive been using it this wipe and it baffles me how many people sleep on it. The 2.5x zoom is actually really good for maps like customs and interchange where you do not need alot of zoom. the sight itself is really cheap (only 15-20k) so you can just pair it with a deltapoint on the side so for 35k you have a really good scope setup for close/medium range. Spraying is also much easier due to the slightly lesser zoom than the 4x scopes. The reticle is pretty nice. Its a bit much, but i grew to like it. I would put it nowhere near F tier.
Easily B-A tier.
Statistically speaking, in terms of the new evo ergo thingy for building guns and how it affects weapon overswing and time to ads as well as snappiness of the aim: The Sig Sauer Bravo 4 is the best 1x-4x option on weight to ergo penalty with the Burris Fast Fire on top, making it the best option if you can get past the large dot on the 1x and the 4x sight picture. This makes it better than any LPVO on any mount in terms of evo ergo. I believe all LPVO are F tier until they add the throw levers/stepless zoom for the ones that have it. Until then, they are all just glorified Elcan Spectre DR4 because of the instantaneous switching of zoom levels.
Krechet is actually better than eotech sights when running nvgs
That zoom is good for rouges
I think the reason you feel like the recoil is higher on the magnified EOTech and the scope mounted sights is because your screen is additionally zoomed in when you ADS, and your sensitivity is adjusted accordingly. Magnified optics have a "Picture-in-Picture" type of display, so there is a second "camera" that the game renders and overlays. But there is also a bit of artificial zoom that is done, and that changes your sensitivity. 1x sights have none of this zoom. So, the reticle is jumping to the same degree, but you perceive it to be greater than it is, as the screen is further zoomed in, so it is moving a greater distance on your screen. The change in sensitivity only affects your ability to control this recoil, and you have to move your mouse twice the distance.
you got the both OKP sights right. thats a sub
I believe the thermal reflex should be slightly higher cause on a canted mount with a valday as your main weapon is good as a bush sweeper
your joking right???? the thermal reflex is comically bad lol
if you swap back to the valday and not try and use the thermal to engage i can agree
It (and the MP Thermal Gameboy) are both also good for THE SUN builds. Because yea, the sight is ass, but if they also can't see shit that sight now means you don't also have to not see shit.
Aside from that though? Maybe as a canted with a regular dot so you can kinda see it in the corner of your vision to maybe catch a bushwookie? No where worth the price for that tech though. Gameboy is same story but being cheaper and somewhat more useable makes it better for that, and no mess being able to see it with any regular holo/red dot.
That obzor sight that he completely shat on is actually amazing when you put it on a saiga 12 since you can sprat and pray with it the sight actually works very well
It's one of the few reticles that isn't a giant blob. It's a solid A or maybe even S tier sight. I don't know why people don't like it.
I only use the Eotechs (w/o 3x), the Romeo8, the PK-120, dovetail OKP and the Obzor. The krechet is also usable but too ugly and there's no reason to use it over the 120, the Vortex is also usable but overpriced.
All other red dots are giant red blobs and therefore worthless, worse than iron sights.
@@wurfyy it’s just bad cause the sight blocks like everything and doesn’t have much of a picture
@@cateatingcorn7276 Would you rather have a sight that blocks the target or everything except the target?
Most red dots in the game are useless beyond like 20m. I'd any day rather run irons than a Kobra or a T1 or whatever. Obzor actually lets you see what you're shooting at.
Dude I had a huge argument with a buddy about the eotech hybrid sight because I felt it gave more recoil and while zoomed in, the reticle would literally shake sometimes. He swore up and down that I was tripping and didn’t know what I was talking about lol 😂 glad someone shared my same opinion and experience
The thermal reflex can be pretty valid if you do night raids, just throw it on a 45 canted mount and sweep large areas for heat signatures. Cheap and effective but you gotta turn off the nods when in use unfortunately
If you could put the Walther MRS on a canted, I think it would just be better than the Deltapoint.
Issue I have with the deltapoint is that the housing of it is too small, its clean on the inside but the MRS you get an ultrathin housing that centers more space near the red dot.
As it stands, the MRS is the defecto S tier picatinny reflex sight. Least amount of visual clutter with a simple red dot.
based, but magnifier cult disagrees
26:00 the Vulcan has a place in Interchange, lots of dark areas that can benefit from the night vision and it comes with a canted rail for close quarters.
I usually do night time raids and if you wear nods, the eotech is very bright, which makes it hard to track the target. The best one for night vision in my opinion is the comp m4 for acurate shots.
The 4x acog with a canted pk06 is like a god tier cheap setup it costs like 25k and does fine. It also looks badass which is its main positive
The 2nd dot on the EXPS3-2 is a 500 yard BDC (bullet drop compensation). There's also a 4 dot reticle which we don't have in EFT. Either way pretty sure this isn't well implemented in EFT since the center dot is suppose to be zero'd to 50/200 yards (between 50 and 200 the bullet is slightly above the dot).
Edit: actually we do have the 4 dot reticle, it's on the one that comes with a magnifier combo.
24:16 for some reason this sight plays for me very well. The upsidedown line makes it really really easier for me to aim and hit people. I put it even on aks-74u and somehow it get me kills far more easy. Guess I am a freak.
The 2 dots on the EOTECH in D tier is for range holds at distance. Useful if you’re trying to compensate for bullet drop, but less useful in a game with 100m average engagements.
There is 1 (ONE) singular use for the ACRO P1 in Tarkov. It's on the RN 30mm mount. It has 2 rails. Back one is for the rangefinder, the front one is for a reflex sight. Two choices are the ACRO P1, or the Romeo sights, which are actually better for that. So, it's 1 actual use. Romeos are better, still.
The ACRO is my go-to canted sight. It has a high mount so the optics take up much less screen. The Sig sights work as well but you need to buy the spacer because for whatever reason you can't just put the high mount on a cant. This means you need to buy one more thing, which is annoying.
This wipe I've focused more on point fire so I haven't really used it but if I get to SBIH I'm definitely going to use it a lot.
You did my boy the Holosun with integrated laser dirty, it fills a niche of being a somewhat usable dirt cheap sight+ a free laser that doesn't conflict with other tacticals because of its separate binding.
free GREEN laser that doesn't fuck with your other devices
simple open tube with clean, crisp dot and no greebles
comes back in insurance
cheap as chips
unironic A tier, i only choose a different optic when the weapon is unable to mount the Holosun or when i require magnification
@@nopenoperson9118 yeah, only downside is I've heard you don't get the hip fire accuracy bonus due to the integration
@@BiasHyperion that's what the two TBL mounts on the B-11 are for :]
the holosun is a very efficient sight its red dot has an optional green laser (although doesnt reduce recoil) sighting range of 300 you can click on anyone head 100M and will hit its mark with any decent muzzle velocity round prob best on shotgun/ap-20 or adar
The obzor dovetail is great for peeps that are red-green colorblind, and so can't use red or green reticles on any non-interchange maps
Incorrect take on the Burris fast fire. Its really good and quite cheap. Pog sight, deserves higher.
I really like the x4 ACOGs, but my more controversial opinion is on the "CCTV camera scope"
I love it, it does everything : it has its own red dot, it has its x3-x9, and it's only -2 ergo compared to all the other long range sights
Unfortunately its reticule is very thick and the FOV isn't great when you use it as assault scope
I'm in the same boat. I use it on the cheap bolty, and since it does work there, I just slap it on everything. I kind of wish I knew a good magnified optic that was a LL2 option from any of the traders. The ADO is LL4 Jaeger and that's a bit long to wait for upgrading from the PILAD.
Lmao, I spend 80% of my time in Tarkov (back when I played it) running SVD with 1P69 and 1P59. The reticle and the zoom levels are just perfect for it and the price! It's basically free. I popped many heads with this :P
This but with a stock sniper mosin, you would not believe how far away you can lay people out from
The reason you use the assault scopes is size and weight. In the real world they’re great in being with high magnification for size and weight being really really light. A lpvo is giant, and heavy, and somewhat not durable. What I think would be great in the game is the SLX primary arms optics.
lpvo has better sight picture, in that it's more stable. there's a reason nobody likes the Elcan enough to keep it IRL. prism based scopes have a seriously difficult time keeping a good picture. it's the biggest complaint i see for the Valday in game
@@tristanmurphy4731 lots of people like the elcan and theyre good scopes, expensive as hell though.
I didn't even notice him rubbing the mouse on his leg until he mentioned it.
The non dovetail OKP-7 is actually pretty good in my opinion
I can't help but remember the "chaw" video when I hear this music
I find it funny that the trijcon acog (apparently) has a really good eyebox in tarkov because (apparently) it's got an awful eyebox IRL. Something to do with the prism system gives them awful eye relief or so I've heard.
the tan holo should be s and the black a, because you can use the tan one with nvg's, bit the black one's reticle glows too much.
I like how spectre sight instantly disappears
The first sight, the Aimpoint comp m4, is the Aimpoint m68, irl I’ve probably put 10,000 thru a rifle while using it. Bulletproof sight, no frills, but works always, plus I can tag silhouettes at 300m with it
New video from Leviticus always makes my day. Thank you for your content!
the EOtech with magnifier isn't bad if you need a 3x in a pinch... you just gotta go with the flow
10:00 shouldn't the magnifier be a seperate item that can be equipped with any optic (of the correct height), and shouldn't it ONLY magnify, without adding anything (be it recoil, extra dots, etc.)?
Technically, yes.
I know im a year late but you take back that shotgun sight slander. that thing is amazing
NO
I really like the Vortex UH-1 and the Target Ring shotgun sight, so they are both at least A tier for me. I still prefer an Eotech over either of them but I think they are super good still
if I could mount the Romeo into the Tan sun shade housing of the Micro T1, i'd be a very happy camper
10:05 YEAHHHHH I KNOW YOU LIKE THE HOLOSUN. A man of class i see
I used the thermal holo sight, as side scope on my sniper to see the enemy faster at night
OKP-7 DT has the most amazing reticle
Holosun's best use case is if you're rocking an SKS but can't afford a synthetic stock that can take siderails and a foregrip at the same time. Get the one with a foregrip and slap that sight on, you've got a reflex optic and a laser sight in a single package and the sight picture is perfectly fine. Rifle is fine.
What's the point of a high magnification scope in a game where fog starts blocking vision under 200 meters?
Next video like this should contain a pic of the reticle next to the optic. But awesome vid!!
I will sometimes put the nipple sight on a factory saiga 12 as a “things inside this red circle die” but that’s about it
Could you make a tier list of optics for night vision use? I don't think anyone ever covered it and I don't want to have to test the sights I don't regularly use with night vision.
I have some friends who used the okp-7 nipple sight for their shotguns, kind of like seeing the spread when ADSing
the reason the exps3-whatever sight has 2 dots is because when shooting at shorter ranges ur bullet hasen't hit the zeroing point yet and as such you should aim with the lower dot
The additional recoil on piggy-backed red dots is probably intentional to simulate a loss of cheek weld as the pmc lifts his head to use them.
I kinda wish you included the actual reticles when talking about the sights tbh
4:07 That is best holosight if your recoil is bad, you can see the reticle when firing full auto unlike holo sights like EOTech, RK06 and so on that blocks the reticle with top part of the holosights
i like the srs, i dunno why, but it just seems like the best red dot to use for an smg
SRS is great with nvgs too, super clean dot
UTG is pretty good, I've used it a lot, it stabilizes fast and doesn't have much float. It's also a very tiny reticle so great if you need to hit headshots longer than 50m in case you are stuck with a 1x. It's just not the brightest.
Honestly, half the time for me the best sight is whatever I happen to have laying around that fits my gun
my use for the thermal holo is putting 50 flashlights on and still being able to see my target
The 2 dots in the other holo means alot more than to be ugly. The dots are 100 meters each. The center being 100, below 200 and third being 300.
Fun fact for you. The "2 dots" on the XPS3-1 are for range finding and drop compensation on 5.56. I forget how the ranging works exactly though.
Not me feeling personally attacked by the entire list
vortex is definitely a sleeper, i love that sight
I have a strong antipathy for eotech scopes because I remember how they used to work with nvg in previous wipes. Got me killed a couple of times.
Awesome video bro, loved the content. Keep the good work going
I did use that Soviet dovetail Night vision sight one wipe with an AKS-74UB, surprisingly made it into a useable scav plinker at ranges in the dead of night on customs for some tasks I was doing. Its not great and its the size of my monitor alone but at night without proper NVGs your not seeing your own gun half the time anyway so its not unusable per say, just extremely niche and situational equipment for the like 4 hours of night tarkov is actually pitch black and you don't wanna run Nods.
I'm not gonna lie ,I was looking for something like this two days ago, thanks a lot for making this vid
the Schmidt and Bender PMII is actually a VERY solid sniper scope, add a rangefinder sit on dome BAM easy kills, I call it the "eye of god" scope, add it to an AXMC bam you've got easy psycho sniper kills on dome, just page up and down rounded UP from the actual target range to the closest range, hover directly over their head and Ala kablam you've got a headshot and a chris's heir kill EZ PZ, good luck grabbing that loot though it's across the entire map but I don't think you care after the adrenaline rush that is a well placed massive distance shot with a mythical head tapper AKA the AXMC with the Eye of God and a decent light SMG with leg meta rounds and a DeltaPoint backup mount on it, best placed on the handguard for CQC panic mode
I'm late to this, but I'd absolutely swear by the ash-12 with the cctv scope
24:56 I used to use it a lot as a cheap night vision sight, id slap it on an AKMSN you could grab off flea for like 18k and just go in with that and wait for someone to show up.
You should have added a photo of the reticle not only the outside look of the scope :/
Honestly the holo with 2 dots is my favourite 1x. Judge me. I love it
Great video man!