Hi George, If you were to get a sheet of fine sand paper on your flat bench, after few good rubs to scrub up brake pad to remove shiney surface. Re-use until you get your new discs sorted.
I had a motorbike with a brake calliper showing very similar symptoms to your tractor brake calliper. Dismantled calliper and found that the surface of the inside of the cylinder bore had become like sandpaper! No wonder the piston wouldn`t slide! Cleaned up with old credit card to scrape off the roughness, put back together, no new bits, and it was fine. Best of luck, Pete.
Nice work sir... never easy doing a how to.. vid.. .. ah the same system as an old Rangie brake discs bolted on to the inside of the hub😬😅.. chamfer the friction edges to help stop squeaky brake pads to.. nice seeing you using a soft hammer to.. Man with all the tools.. 😅.. stay safe 🏴
Well done mate 👍 I was having a think since your last vid…..how on earth have you managed to get the fdub home without Liz noticing? It’s gotta be a bugger to hide 🤫😉
Good video as usual George 👍 as a few before me have said theres plenty meat on the disc to give it a dress up an prolong the disc and pad life win win all round 💪👍
Hi G. Check the disc thickness you may be able to have them skimmed. The LH. caliper that was seized is another problem, the worn out pad indicated this. You should have removed the caliper and cleaned/checked the piston. If you leave it it will wear out the pad rapidly. Check the hub for heat after a run. Let me know if you need any help.
Sorry bud but that was brake butchery. Seized calipers need stripping and cleaning minimum, better to replace the piston and seal. If mucker could reach he would be kicking your bum.
Top banana good job Have the same problems with unimog calipers especially the rears that have the park brake on Not looking forward to buying MB discs either 🤣
If you're looking at the price of a new disc, at the same time look into the price to have the old disc skimmed, to reface it, also some sandpaper a nice flat bench will remove the glaze of the pads to get more life from them
Just my thoughts... with pads that were only a 1/4 worn like that i would have sanded the pad surface, freed and cleaned the calipers and refit them until doing the discs. when doing discs you really have to use new pads. i did miss parts of the vid so i need to rewatch, you might have said these points. lucky win with freeing that caliper it looked too stuck at first. great job though
Hello George it looks like someone has changed one side but not the other but to much info about your nob lol that’s the only trouble aswell the get salt in them and grit then they are a swine but nothing gets the better of mr Saunders keep up the good work and look forward to the next one 👍👍
If you had access to a lathe , you could make up a mandril for bolting discs to & skimming them . I’m sure there’s a min thickness . As long as there is plenty , you should be fine 👍🏻🚜🏴
George, we changed the callipers on our 3155. Try Arms Plant for discs, they are reasonably priced. The problem is that you need to take the hubs off to do the job 🙄
The Porta-Power Jacks are pretty good , however the "Finger" type are good idea in theory, in reality they never seem to fit anything, and when they do they have not the power to shift anything.
Not an expert on much in life, but would it be a option to have the discs milled down with a fresh surface? Or even legal to do in the UK for that matter as well.
Discs are only £135 + vat for that model .Caliper seal kits to rebuild one are only £30+vat . If you changed all the discs ,pads and even calipers it would be way cheaper than wet brakes on conventional tractors ,not to mention the mess with fillings blocking filters , ruining backend oil and causing transmission problems in the deal . Fastrac have led the way with outboard commercial brakes on all four wheels for nearly 35 years ,whilst most other brands continue with outdated wet inboard brakes which give problems especially for larger tractors which have gone faster and heavier ....
£135+ vat for new discs? That is pretty damn cheap! No excuse to not change them really. Not sure what you mean by 'outdated wet brakes' though. Nothing outdated about them, in fact for slow moving vehicles they're the superior choice. Fully enclosed so no contamination issues from mud ect, and if maintained properly, (e.g axle oils changed at the correct intervals and no dingus ever puts the wrong brake fluid in the machine) they generally last the life of the machine. They are not suitable for high speed operation though due to heating/inefficiency issues due to the resistance of oil in-between the plates which is why I'd never expect to see them on something like a fastrac.
@@deezelfairy I mean for large 50k + tractors .... Theres many a owner of these tractors say they would prefer if the did have Fastrac style brake inside the wheels .Some brands are now as fast as a Fastrac ,but use oil immered brakes not best suited
Hi George, If you were to get a sheet of fine sand paper on your flat bench, after few good rubs to scrub up brake pad to remove shiney surface.
Re-use until you get your new discs sorted.
Well done, George. Thought for a minute that the calliper would need replacing. Pays to persevere.
I’d say calamity Kim would skim those discs for you George 🤙🏻
I had a motorbike with a brake calliper showing very similar symptoms to your tractor brake calliper. Dismantled calliper and found that the surface of the inside of the cylinder bore had become like sandpaper! No wonder the piston wouldn`t slide! Cleaned up with old credit card to scrape off the roughness, put back together, no new bits, and it was fine. Best of luck, Pete.
Cheers Pete, if it plays up I'll have the thing apart👌👌👌
Hi George, One more good job done up to your standard which is always 100% great video. Take care of yourself and stay safe.🚜🚜🚜⭐️👍
Great job George 👍👍👍
Nice work sir... never easy doing a how to.. vid.. .. ah the same system as an old Rangie brake discs bolted on to the inside of the hub😬😅.. chamfer the friction edges to help stop squeaky brake pads to.. nice seeing you using a soft hammer to.. Man with all the tools.. 😅.. stay safe 🏴
Always enjoy your videos best of luck everything 👍👍👍
Thanks George great vid and nice job.... Take care sir....
Great job George, You behaved well to free her up👌👍🙏🙂
Great video and a good job!
Great video George 👍👍
Nice job George . 👌
Good job done George!! That calliper sure was stuck, braking should be much better now! 😊
Well done mate 👍 I was having a think since your last vid…..how on earth have you managed to get the fdub home without Liz noticing? It’s gotta be a bugger to hide 🤫😉
Good video as usual George 👍 as a few before me have said theres plenty meat on the disc to give it a dress up an prolong the disc and pad life win win all round 💪👍
You should be able to get your discs re machined to remove the scoring would save you a few quid
Can they be done in place without the need to remove them I would of thought
@rg25901 yeah they can be done in place,their are places where you can rent the machine do do this job
Hi G. Check the disc thickness you may be able to have them skimmed. The LH. caliper that was seized is another problem, the worn out pad indicated this. You should have removed the caliper and cleaned/checked the piston. If you leave it it will wear out the pad rapidly. Check the hub for heat after a run. Let me know if you need any help.
Nice one mate 👍
Sorry bud but that was brake butchery. Seized calipers need stripping and cleaning minimum, better to replace the piston and seal.
If mucker could reach he would be kicking your bum.
If it continues to play up, I'll sort it out
Top banana good job
Have the same problems with unimog calipers especially the rears that have the park brake on
Not looking forward to buying MB discs either 🤣
If you're looking at the price of a new disc, at the same time look into the price to have the old disc skimmed, to reface it, also some sandpaper a nice flat bench will remove the glaze of the pads to get more life from them
It make a great video if you got a rebuild kit for the caliper and rebuilt it yourself another great video George thank you
George knows when his lucks in missus says leave the wellys on tonight George 😂
Good save. You got that pad before it started doing any real damage to the disc.
Just my thoughts... with pads that were only a 1/4 worn like that i would have sanded the pad surface, freed and cleaned the calipers and refit them until doing the discs. when doing discs you really have to use new pads. i did miss parts of the vid so i need to rewatch, you might have said these points. lucky win with freeing that caliper it looked too stuck at first. great job though
Hello George it looks like someone has changed one side but not the other but to much info about your nob lol that’s the only trouble aswell the get salt in them and grit then they are a swine but nothing gets the better of mr Saunders keep up the good work and look forward to the next one 👍👍
They use to machine the disc (brake rotors) on the vehicle in my area. Don't know if they do that anymore?
If you had access to a lathe , you could make up a mandril for bolting discs to & skimming them . I’m sure there’s a min thickness . As long as there is plenty , you should be fine 👍🏻🚜🏴
thanks for the reply about me astra van mate ,
Got to love an astra mate👍
@@GeorgeSaunders ive had 7 george , three mk 2 , also a mk 3 .. then a mk 4 and my second mk 5 .
George, we changed the callipers on our 3155. Try Arms Plant for discs, they are reasonably priced. The problem is that you need to take the hubs off to do the job 🙄
I know, it's a pain😬
Great Video George, Nice Brake pad change, thanks for sharing
Well sorted out George on the Fastrac pads .👍🚜🔧
That fellow in Ireland, that is the fastrac guru, might have a good used caliper, also perhaps aftermarket rotors. ??
George, its seized.
Can you have the rotor resurfaced instead of replacing it???
I reckon you got your moneys worth out of the NS pad😆. Think I’ve only ever done pads on my landy🤔
Hi George Nice One thanks again
If the discs are within spec, just reface them on a lathe.
George dont you know anyone with a lathe as the disks will clean up perfect and still be safe and save a bucket of money.
Some what a S.O.B job lol
I would change that calliper.
maybe not change but at least rebuild
The Porta-Power Jacks are pretty good , however the "Finger" type are good idea in theory, in reality they never seem to fit anything, and when they do they have not the power to shift anything.
I've found the same, I don't think I've shifted anything with them
Would you not need to take that piston out and clean it.
Was hoping u was going to say how much discs was keep videos coming mate 👍
Not an expert on much in life, but would it be a option to have the discs milled down with a fresh surface? Or even legal to do in the UK for that matter as well.
Discs are only £135 + vat for that model .Caliper seal kits to rebuild one are only £30+vat . If you changed all the discs ,pads and even calipers it would be way cheaper than wet brakes on conventional tractors ,not to mention the mess with fillings blocking filters , ruining backend oil and causing transmission problems in the deal .
Fastrac have led the way with outboard commercial brakes on all four wheels for nearly 35 years ,whilst most other brands continue with outdated wet inboard brakes which give problems especially for larger tractors which have gone faster and heavier ....
£135+ vat for new discs? That is pretty damn cheap! No excuse to not change them really.
Not sure what you mean by 'outdated wet brakes' though. Nothing outdated about them, in fact for slow moving vehicles they're the superior choice. Fully enclosed so no contamination issues from mud ect, and if maintained properly, (e.g axle oils changed at the correct intervals and no dingus ever puts the wrong brake fluid in the machine) they generally last the life of the machine.
They are not suitable for high speed operation though due to heating/inefficiency issues due to the resistance of oil in-between the plates which is why I'd never expect to see them on something like a fastrac.
@@deezelfairy I mean for large 50k + tractors .... Theres many a owner of these tractors say they would prefer if the did have Fastrac style brake inside the wheels .Some brands are now as fast as a Fastrac ,but use oil immered brakes not best suited
Think that calipers goosed George. Get a rebuild kit, then speak to a local gauge who has a disc facing tool. Be a tidy job then👍
Didn’t that look like fun
eBay says £256 each disk ☹️
Save money get a machine shop to skim your Discs
If there’s plenty of meat left on them discs , get them skimmed.
Can't you have your disc's skimmed at your local engineering company..
11:09 on cars you turn them in. Remove support with loosing 2 bolts and screw it in. It has thread to remove slack
That piston wants to be taken out and cleaned up, not a big job, forcing back will cut seal!
Might be plenty meat on the disks to get them skimmed. Could be a cheaper road to go down mate...
You. Need. To. By. A. Fendit. Gorege u. Know it. JCB. Out. Yes. 🚜🚜❤️😩😁😁
Had a quick Google about and what i saw the discs are only £135 each, which isn't bad at all.
That's not bad 👍
Jet wash don't help washing muck out
Think I turn bleed niple
Out bit pushing in great
George soon having station
Lose the friction George lol
That's the word! 🤣
BAD calber
prepare for the shock George from around £ 200 each disc
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£135 + vat they are from a JCB specialist
@@straightsix9140 good, but it depends what quality and brand they use....and if the hub seals come as well.
Get yhe disc's skimmed.