Wahuda Jointer Setup Process, Infeed Outfeed Coplaner, Alignment Adjustment Benchtop
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- čas přidán 16. 04. 2021
- I'll give you some tips and tricks to setup your Wahuda Jointer. This process may also be good for any benchtop jointer with leveling screws on the top of the tables. Wen, Craftsman, Rikon, Cutech, Porter Cable, etc.
UPDATE: Just saw a great comment on the level I was using in the video. I have recently changed to using a straight edge bar as they are more trustworthy in my opinion. Search on Amazon for straight edge bar and you will find one. I have a 24". They are great for laying right on the table and seeing how flat it is. More precise than the level.
Also, I have a video here about a cart for the planer and jointer. Make sure you watch that one too!
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I also recommend you study proper jointer technique. Search those terms to find a few videos. Here is a good one with Katz-Moses
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Here as well - • Milling Lumber: 101
I interchange terms a lot! Cutter Head, blade, heads, etc. Allen key, wrench, head, allen. - Jak na to + styl
I have a Wen 6”. Same issues. Have spent hours tinkering with it. Thank You for your vid. Many useful tips.
I grew up with working men, at this point I don't even hear the cursing. Good vid, subscribed.
Thanks for the video! It was SUPER HELPFUL. I have a CUTECH 8 inch jointer (essentially the same model as yours) and I had managed to get the infeed/outfeed tables SO messed up that I was close to throwing the thing away. All my boards came out messed up and unusable. You showed how to fix the tables. I was just not doing it methodically or carefully enough. It is now spot on and I’ve already milled up a project. Thanks again.
I got a wen 8 inch that is exactly like this. I been going round and round with it. Took both tables off and everything...I gave up out of frustration yesterday but watching this has made me feel it is indeed possible to get these things right. Once thing you said was absolutely right too...don't pick em up by the tables! I think that is what undid mine
Excellent advice about adjusting the four table leveling points *in pairs* rather than one at a time. I was initially adjusting these points one at a time, making no progress. Ultimately, I wound up removing the outfeed table completely, then resetting all four leveling points to be approximately equal height, and then following your advice by adjusting the leveling points in pairs. This did the trick and the planer is back in alignment. Thanks!
Can I ask how you reset the leveling points? I just took the outfeed table off late tonight but I’m not sure where the reset screws should be adjusted to, in trying to start out from scratch?
@@schilkeman My outfeed table was pretty badly misaligned, so I began by setting each of the leveling points to their lowest setting (i.e., setting the table to its lowest possible height). From there, I used a level as you see at 4:05. Working in pairs, I adjusted the leveling points upward until they hit the level.
From a woodworking newbie.. have to say thank you for the help! I dont like and subscribe often but you deserve it!
Awesome, thank you!
Thanks for the video and instruction. I've got the Magnum Industrial version jointer....same jointer by the looks of it. Spent 3 hours now trying to get the tables correct. I think I've got it.
Just received my Wahuda and the infeed table was way out of whack. Thank you for this video! It helped me get things pretty much perfect!
Crystal clear. I’m just not sure if I should read the manual or not
An excellent jointer tutorial !! Thanks.
I bought the 8” and just received it today. I made sure to lift it from the bottom when getting out if the box to avoid possible miss aligning the tables. It looks like a lot of adjusting but I’m sure I’ll have to re-watch again several times to make it square.
Thank you so much, i have 10 inch Wahuda jointer, and whenever I used it, the result of the wood, the left side is more thinner than the right side, after your video i will try to adjust it and see how it works.
I have the same problem. Ever get it to cut straight?
Finally! I had to go through the table process multiple times. My first couple of tests came out exactly as I would think. My only concern now is exactly how much the jointer will clean up. It seems on this one I'm down about half the distance on the infeed to really clean up some small stock (test pieces). I don't think it's a good idea to "skim" 1/8" cut all at once so I'll experiment a bit with it. But it does what it's supposed to so I'm happy with the test runs! (After owning this thing for 8 months I finally got it set up on a decent surface so that the tables would setup and stay put).
2:35 Haha, I bought another version of this jointer (King Canada). It's just so tempting to grab the jointer by the two handles. There's no other gripping point really. But after you spend a long time on the tables you'll never lift from them again!
This was super informative. Thanks!
Thank you for the clear information. This will help alot.
I’ve just had to walk away from leveling mine. Will watch a few videos and calm down.
It can be frustrating. Take a break, get a snack. Let us know how it’s doing.
You came to the same conclusions I did. Thanks for the video!
Very helpful! Thank you!
Dave, you don't call, you don't write, you don't do anymore Reset episodes. Lol. Nice to see you making content again.
Also looks like you have about 45 seconds of black video from 4:15 to about 5:07.
Hey George, yeah, RESET has been on pause for a while. Thanks for watching!
Nice catch! That is what I get for editing so late at night! I've edited that part out. Thanks for your comment.
Hi David. This is an excellent video, I appreciate you putting the time into making it.
I bought a used one of these recently.
It is driving me insane.
You're video was a real help but I just can't get it coplanar and cutting evenly.
Your video made me feel slightly less mad as I had already taken both tables off and reset the screws.
I've now done that 4 or 5 times and each time I just cannot get it coplanar. So frustrating.
I also see you have what looks like a blue tape over the depth gauge marker. When my infeed table is at its highest point the red indicator is pointing at 1/8th of an inch. Totally useless and I can not do anything about that.
Looks like others below are having very similar frustrations. I might just sell this and swallow the cost of a decent 8" floor standing model. Dang, those things are expensive.
thanks again.
Same. I've fiddled with mine for the last month till I'm blue in the face. Gotten no response from Wahuda support. Was going to send it back but I'm 3 days past the Amazon return window. D'oh! It's going on Craigslist. Life's too short.
Update: yesterday I noticed there is a dip in the middle of my out-feed table and slight dip near the back of the in-feed table. Pretty sure that's been the problem all along. I found a forum where others mention this flaw as well. Now if I can just get Wahuda support to return my call. So frustrating. If I hadn't assumed the issue was pilot error I wouldn't have missed my Amazon return window.
Looks like I need to go back to setting up the outfeed table again. Getting snipe a few inches into the cut. A bit frustrating, but let’s do it again
Let us know how it went. It can be frustrating.
first of all I appreciate your video and the excellent explanation. a small point however right at the beginning when you place your level in order to make sure the cutter heads are flat with the outfeed table, I'm not sure if you realize that the protector at the end of the level is lower than the level itself and that's what's catching on the cutter head. It may be as simple issue but this could completely undo all the hard work of adjusting. you simply would have had to move your level to the middle of the table.
The endcap of the level never touches the tables. It's actually smaller than the level itself so it never touches the bed. This one is anyway. Having said that, I have moved away from using a level like this and now use a bar straight edge. If you search straight edge bar on Amazon you can find them. I trust it much more than the level i was using. I have a different jointer video that was just released and you can see it there. Thanks for watching!
Dave, thanks for the great video. I have a Cutech 8" jointer and it was driving me crazy until I followed the steps in this video. Working like a champ now. One question, if the outfeed table is too high, shouldn't that cause snipe at the beginning of the board?
if its too high then it the stock won't be able to pass through onto it and would stop after about an inch and leave you with a big divot in the front
Run an edge board over the knives and stop about 1/4 of the way. Turn off saw and then dry run that cut over the knives and outfeed table. This should show you if the outfeed is high or not. Too high and you'll be knocking the wood up against it while trying to cut. You'll know if it's too high!
Gold.Thx!
Why do they design these benchtop jointers to be so frustrating to level?
Hi David, this is a very good video on the Wahuda jointer. I just bought the 10 inch and have done the set up according to the book and your video. I've even called Wahuda and asked them. The problem I have is the jointer cut only about the first half to two thirds of the board and then it does not cut at all. If you run it through multiple times, it just cuts the same part of the board, and the front just gets thinner. I've used a machinist straight edge, feeler gages down to .0015, and a precision level. please help, I don't know what to do from here.
Sounds like your outfeed table is tilted down away from the cutterhead at the back of the table. if it is tilted downward the tail of your board would raise higher than your front end causing the cutter head to not be able to reach the board. Just my $.02 thinking about it but its tough to say without seeing it
It sounds like it isn't coplaner. Start again with outfeed to knives, and then infeed to outfeed. Level in all directions. Then try some of my tricks again, like running the edge of a board 1/4 way and turning off then leveling outfeed to the cut. You can get it, it just takes time and I know it can be frustratin.
I have the exact same problem with my 10” Wahuda that I just got. I’ve spent hours adjusting and tuning using an expensive 36” straight edge to no avail. I took everything apart and got everything level and coplaner at a “zero” depth of cut and realized that as soon as I lowered the infeed table to make a cut the height adjustment only happened on the front side of the table towards the blade. I’d be curious to know if you ever figured out your issue but I plan on calling Wahuda for help because I’m at a loss.
Hi David. I’m trying to decide between the 8” and the 10” Wahuda jointer. Do you wish you had bought the 10” now ? Or is the 8” perfect? Thanks
Baron
Which did you get? 8 was fine for me
Spent all afternoon, but I got my Grizzly 6” dialed in!
Just need a cart to put your Grizzly and planer on now!
Has anybody experienced this problem ?. I think it may be a design flaw. Once you get the jointer co-planner etc and everything is perfect you then proceed to lower the infeed table and problems start. Because the internal adjustment treaded rod is on the left side, the table immediately becomes out of accuracy due to sloppiness in the treaded rod. The indeed table favours the left side in tension during lowering and raising. Hard to explain but the table doesn't not continue being parallel in the original set position.
Can you tell me why on all these bench top jointers there is no crank handle to raise and lower the outfield table like it is on the infeed table
These don’t need that kind of torque to raise and lower. The cast iron table for sure do. There is a simple knob that does the job here.
This is a cast iron table isn’t it? That’s why I am looking at this model.
The outfeed table shouldn't move. It should always be inline with the blade no matter what. Only the infeed table should be moving.
@@DavidMcCabe Yeah - the one where you knuckle your hands on every adjustment... LOL
For the life of me I can't get the fence perfectly square and when I get it close and lock it in.. it goes out of alignment after just a few passes of a board. Really really hate the fence system on these benchtops.
How does it handle hardwood?
I never had any issues with it. You do have to take it a little slower when putting a wide face across it.
I have followed everything in this video to a T spending over 3 days of almost constant adjustments and I still cannot dial in my 8-in WEN. Not going to lie I'm at my wit's end. I'm still within the one year limited warranty. Or to your I can't really remember right now I wonder if I can send this unit in for calibration. Unfortunately I did the one rule that I didn't know you were and supposed to do and that was don't grab the jointer by the tables in which I did multiple times because there wasn't any warning against it in the instructions nor in the box. I have a set of feeler gauges as well as a 2-in solid aluminum level as well as a 4-in aluminum level making sure they were completely accurate and even trying a solid bar aluminum empire ruler all when the hopes of getting this right and I still cannot dial it in properly. If anyone has any help that they can provide it would be greatly appreciated.
Sorry for the wall of text.
Did you get it dialed in? If you are at your wits end remove the tables and set the bolts all to the same height and start fresh. Honestly, i"m hoping you returned it!
watch this and all the adjustments make me wont a floor model,,
I'm pretty sure no one is reading the manual front to back. You may as well make a video of you reading the manual front to back
If you're gonna use pallet wood, be sure it doesn't have any nails in it... ;-)
or any wood for that matter!
For those thinking about buying this - STAY AWAY!!!! Over 10 Hours of trying to adjust the table and I’m ready to take a hammer to this thing.
Also there needs to be some better tips in terms of - if you see one side dip here then adjust these two knobs like so, and vice versa all around. This video just tells you HOW to adjust - which is self explanatory man durrr adjust the screw - real helpful- not exactly WHAT to do specifically with examples. Ultimately video is useless.
The video was helpful. In the end, there's nothing you can do other than turn the screws. He gave tips on tools to use, a method, and how to use machined wood to know which way to adjust. The most important tips from it were to not adjust more than two corners at a time and to tighten the main screws down before checking your adjustments. Before watching this, I was not being methodological and got things way out of whack.
Start off with the suggestion that several made -- pull of the tables and set all the adjustment screws flat to the bottom of the table - reset whatever you did before. Start with the out feed table. It will likely be very low after resetting the screws. It's also likely that the cutter head won't fully rotate while this low. Work only two of the four positions at a time. I did the back two , then the front two. I did the same number of turns for both set screws for both the left and right. I started with full turns (3 full on the first adjustment), then half turns, then quarter turns, then eighth turns. Keep track of the total turns done subtracting counter-clockwise from clockwise. You want to lay your level/straight edge along the table you're adjusting and protruding across the cutter. After you adjust the set screws tighten the main screws. Then turn the cutter head (don't put pressure on the level, but make sure it's lying flat on the bed). If it moves your level, the table is too low. If it doesn't move it, it's too high. You want it to barely scratch it so that it ever so slightly rises, but doesn't move back and forth at all. Once you have the back of the table adjusted, move to the front. Start off with moving all four set screws the total number of turns you did on the back. Then fine adjust. It's likely that when you get the front adjusted, that the back might need some tweaking. Lay your level across various cutting blades from front to back to see if they're all just barely scratching. If not, you will need to tweak the back and front (I used eighth turns) until you get all the cutter heads front to back just barely scratching the level.
For the in feed, after I reset the screws, I raised it all the way up. I then started off with the same number of turns I had from my notes on the out feed. I laid the level across from the out to the in feed and fine adjusted starting with the back. I then moved to the front and did the same. A four foot level is most useful here. Lay it across both plates on the back and look for any gaps (either for light shining through or with a feeler gauge). Adjust either the left or right to remove the gap. Here I did one set at a time rather than two. When there's no gap, test the cutter heads for barely scratching again. I also checked diagonally after making sure it was good in parallel lines.
When this all looks good, do the wood tests. The one he showed with jointing four inches off a straight board is one I've seen several places. It will show if things are working and help you with fine adjustments. Take off the four inches, and use it to check alignment. If it has a gap near the cutter, either the out feed is too low on the right or too high on the left. If it shows a gap away from the cutter, either the left is too low or the right is too high. You can eliminate the right of the out feed being too high if your wood doesn't catch on it while jointing it. At this point, it should just be micro adjustments.
Yes, this is all a pain.
Great reply and good tips. This shows you how frustrating it can be and I don’t blame the guy for his comment. Sometimes you have to put the wrenches down and go inside. It will be easier the next day.
@@DavidMcCabe after reviewing my comment lmao, I was so angry when I wrote this
@@XxMalabooo did you ever get it aligned?
@@nonplayablecharacter4815 no man, its still frustrating me; you need to get it level in 5 different fcking ways and the screws to align it suck; I should of just bought a real jointer