A Web Of Lies: The Case Of Caroline Crouch | MAY 2022 UPDATE IN DESCRIPTION BOX
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- WARNING: This episode contains issues surrounding domestic violence and animal cruelty.
In May 2021, the world was rocked by a disturbing story. Reports were coming through, that a family in Greece had been the target of a violent and barbaric rampage inside their own home.
20 year old Caroline Crouch had been killed, as had her dog Roxy, her husband Babis had been tied up and left for dead and the couples 11 month old daughter Lydia had had a gun pointed at her head.
But, as disturbing as that story was, the real truth was even worse.
MAY 2022 UPDATE:
According to the Mirror, her husband "faced four counts: premeditated murder, animal abuse, perverting the course of justice and lying to authorities. And he has been found guilty of all counts [...]". The verdict was unanimous. He faces a maximum of 35 years in, according to The Telegraph.
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National Domestic Abuse Hotline (UK): www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk/
Refuge (UK): www.refuge.org.uk/
Men's Advice Line (UK): mensadviceline.org.uk
ManKind Initiative (UK): new.mankind.org.uk/
Everyman Project (UK): www.everymanproject.co.uk/
National Coalition Against Domestic Violence (USA): ncadv.org
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If this case tells us anything, it's that if a woman is threatened physically or emotionally by their spouse, don't tell him you're going to leave. Just do it, for your own sake
Right!! You just don't even go down that road. Many years ago my father in law went on a weekend fishing trip and while he was gone my husband's friends all packed up his mom and little sister - their beds, everything they needed or that was hers - in two days and had them moved into an apartment. It was really cool to see everyone buckle down and get it done like that. My father in law was not a violent guy, but was an angry drunk and she knew that was the best way to get out. And she was right. A lot of fighting after but no physical altercations. M
I do agree with you here however it is often so truly difficult for women to flee an abusive relationship.
Lydia will grow up never knowing her mother & that in itself is a tragedy
To be fair or a man either
@@basketcase297 yes it happens to men too less often but can happen.
@@basketcase297 I agree it can go both ways
As soon as they mention the wife is dead and the husband is just tied up... I'm like, "yep, he did it."
Also, when the mate's story is..."she left in the middle of the night... blah blah blah... probably with her boyfriend...blah blah blah...fancy drinks on the beach of mexico...blah blah blah..."
Right!!!
Same
Me too!
@@sincitygiggles13 we had a fight, and she went for a walk to blow off some steam... heard that many times...
And the DOG was brutally murdered? Yeah, why leave the husband alone when you kill a freaking puppy. I'm not even a dog person and I'm outraged.
The fact that he also chose to kill the dog (when it was completely unnecessary, aside from killing the wife obviously) shows just how sick and psychopathic he is.
He was trying to sell his story, but I think it ended up backfiring. Why kill a dog but leave the husband alive to identify you later?
I completely agree with you about that poor, sweet dog, Roxy. It’s horrific what he did to his wife…and there is no reason on this earth that he needed to kill Roxy. I’m surprised he didn’t also kill his baby. That beautiful woman was only 20 years old, I think, and if you can also drown an innocent dog, you truly don’t deserve to live.
One never hears of the family cat(s) being murdered with the family.
@@KrisCheyne
Because cats are usually fast asleep in in some quiet corner of the house and don't realize anything even happened until they wake up and come looking for you to feed them.
PS... I'm kind of joking and wanted to add a laughing emoji before I get told not all cats are like that, but it feels inappropriate.
@@J24J agreed. Poor little dog.
Whenever I hear one person is brutally killed……
And one person is left tied up.
I kinda know where it’s going.
100%, i knew from the start!
Like Annie Dewani’s death?
When I see there’s a husband and wife, and ones dead.... I know where the story’s going. Especially when you have a life insurance policy 🤡
Sadly it's usually a dead give away. That & dialing with their nose😬
@@gobbleguzzle locally, most people suspected Shrien from the start.
We have violent crime here, yes, but perhaps for this very reason everyone found the details of the crime pretty unbelievable from the start.
the fact that he pursued her when she was still a child as his GF and then to be his wife when she was barely out of her teens tells me that this man wanted someone young and inexperienced enough to be able to control. Caroline however, was clearly a headstrong girl and young woman and wasn't going to settle for that, so she paid with her life. RIP Caroline and Roxy.
Controlling and manipulating behavior you can tell by exactly what you said.
Yes! I was wondering if anyone would address the age!
having a child so young leaves you in a very vulnerable position and open to abusive relationships.
@@piranhasaurusrex I was shocked and I was wondering if he is a pedophile too. She was 15 years old when they met, a child! Very sad story :( I was just relieved that he didn't kill the baby too.
Spot on. Judging from past experience, the reason certain guys choose to pursue young girls is because they are easy to manipulate. Unfortunately I know too many dudes like this.
The age he was when he was pursuing her should have been the first red flag here!
Here parents should have stepped in! A 27 year old doesn't date a 15 year old, he grooms her. That alone was utterly disgusting, not to mention him trying to isolate her from her family, the emotional and physical violence, that ended in murder.
Im greek and i must tell you that our whole nation was in shock...we knew right from the start that her husband was the murderer...i would like to give congratulations to the greek police for solving this case in a so "clever" way. Rip sweetheart....you will never be forgotten
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RIP CAROLINE & ROXY it's such a shame this had to happen... Lydia loved her mother & u could tell she was such a loving mom... And what he did to the puppy 🐕 I hope everyday is hell for him in prision... Anyways have a wonderful day & be safe!!
@@armcollector6660 it’s not.
There is a video of him taking care of the stray cats in prison yard.
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I am also Greek, this was a huge case in our country. It was everyday on the news for months. It even became a subject of political debate between left and right about immigration because of the husband's story that immigrants thieves killed his wife. I personally didn't buy his story, he always gave me Chris Watts vibes during those interviews.
Honestly it’s a HUGE red flag to me when people give a vague culprit like “immigrants” or “gang members”…Real cases rarely if ever have victims describe perps in such generalized terms that are CLEARLY a dog whistle to turn the focus onto other communities they know already struggle with reputation, earned or not. Pure distraction and deflection.
His whole story made 0 sense.
Ontws mlk san ton Watts. An kai o Watts fainotan entelws aposindedemenos sta video meta. Aftos eixe spasei, apla gia logous allous apo aftous pou poulouse to arxiko narrative
Yes, the media always portrays foreigners as monsters - but the real monsters are the locals.
This case here is a fine example of a local monster blaming foreginers because it's acceptable and believable because we have been conditioned to think that people who don't look like us are the enemies and we should be scared of them.
@@nnyv0040 It's believable because there literally was a gang committing home invasions! There are bad people everywhere, but people committing crimes against the citizens of a nation that took them in is a special kind of low. Babis was lying, but the home invasion victims weren't. Not anyone's place to deny the experiences of real victims. Must be more respectful.
Gang apparently kill a woman, and a dog, but leave the man alive. Such an obvious lie.
Absolute P.O.S.
RIP Caroline.
Hahaha! I just commented and called him a POS too-
@@cdd4248 Great minds...... :)
@Rhonda Bothelio Someone leaving them is too much for their ego. So, they resort to violence. Pathetic.
Not to mention the man did not have a single scratch on him.
Literally thought this within 2 minutes of watching. A gang break in, have no problem with killing a young woman and dog but leave the one person who could link them to the crime alive.
3 minutes in...Dog dead,wife dead, husband just tied up .. my minds already made up who done it
Yeah he was too lazy to even do much more than phone inthe most flippant mockery of a victim performance tooright? Whata douche
The cat??
If you need to leave an abuser do not tell them even hint at it until you and your children are safe tell them over the phone or with someone and never meet with them alone again.
Move far away and tell NO ONE!
Also, in case you don't have a good support system, then try to have secret account where you deposit savings.
Very sensible advice
Very, very good advice.
That’s so important. Abuser starts to feel themselves lose control of the situation, will can react in extreme ways to regain it.
Since others have already touched on the most important parts of this story, I'll just add that it's really awesome that Greece makes animal abuse a felony. In many parts of America, an animal abuser probably won't even get a ticket, let alone any jail time. Which is completely ridiculous since most serial killers start by abusing animals.
That's a really good point. I never looked at it from that angle but you're absolutely right - thank you.
Yes . Absolutely!! Needs to happen in every country🙏
Agree
Slippery slope. Sounds like a good way to have your life ruined for accidentally stepping on your pets paw. Greece doesn't have a for-profit prison system or judges that get kickbacks for high incarceration rates
@@unlisted9494 Don't be ridiculous! Nobody in their right mind would call stepping on an animal's paw abuse and you know that. I'm talking about torturing and mutilating animals.
He drowned a puppy and hung it from stairs. What the actual F.
He also killed a mother with their daughter in the room but okay...
@@darkninja1693 - glad I'm not the only one getting irritated by the dog shaggers.
@@simonw1313 pfft. The point is that the dog was innocent and didn't do any personal harm to him and he killed him for nothing? That's what ppl are talking about ? Guessing You dislike animals with the level of disrespect you show.
@@reannemelshia259 - I despise animal abuse but I have a deep mistrust for people who privilege animals over human beings.
RIGHT??JEEEESUS.
“Placed the baby next to their mother in an attempt to make a more compelling and shocking crime scene” that’s the definition of a psychopath…that baby will be scarred for life…
Too young to be conscious of what's going on thankfully.
@@eadweard. yes though he and his parents tried to get/keep custody of the baby after he got in prison.. idk why he though he had a case for that tho. Thankfully I think they didn't win
@@eadweard. But subconsciouly she's been traumatised, she will definitely need therapy to overcome this, poor girl...
@@ringwe Is this a real phenomenon?
@@eadweard. Sadly, yes. For one thing, even infants can experience PSTD, and it wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't the first violent episode little Lydia experienced (there were reports, for instance about how he had destroyed the bathroom door, possibly with a mallet). So for one thing we know she has already been affected. The thing is the experiences we have up to the age of 5 shape our character and behaviour, even if we don't recall them. It's a really sad aspect of domestic violence. A baby can be scared for life if it witnesses violence against its mother, if you add this cruel murder... Let's not forget that he placed the baby on top of the mother's back, this is really REALLY sick. It goes well beyond an attempt to set up the crime scene, he really wanted to display his superiourity. Infants are like a sponge they evaluate every little detail. They may not be able to process them mentally, but they do process them in other ways. If you google about domestic abuse effects on babies and infants you'll see many reports based on research on the subject, another proof about how humans are the most despicable species on the planet.
Omg I hate it when these ‘husband killers’ get caught and then they change their story and say the mother was hurting their child so they did what they did to protect them etc. Chris Watts said the same bullshit story.. except he actually killed his daughters and unborn child. These poor women. Praying for comfort and strength over anyone who’s in a abusive relationship. Definitely never tell your plans of leaving to your abuser.. get to safety first before informing them.
Chris Watts was one of the more frightening ones since there was never any sign of physical abuse from him, ever. He was the perfect husband and father, you can even see in home videos how he plays with his daughters. This guy on the other hand had evidence of being abusive towards his wife.
@@fc7307 oh yea I agree 100% .. I’m just seeing a bit of a pattern with these men when they get caught , how they blame their wives for their killing as if they hadn’t done enough damage to these women already. Really sad.
Yeah when he said she abused Lydia I actually said out loud oh bull crap
'Wife killers' or 'killer husbands'. adjective+subject.
😢
Don’t tell them you want to leave. Just leave. Scary how some of these psychopaths react when rejected.
Exactly right. And don’t tell friends and family that are close to the abuser where you are going after you leave. Abusers know how to manipulate and they’ll pretend to want to fix things and make amends and convince those people to tell where you are.
Sadly she wasn't mature enough to take all the decisions she made. She was 15 when she was manipulated into a relationship and still a teenager when she got married.
If she had half a brain cell she would have known to leave without saying anything. Or maybe she should have left from the beginning since it was obvious he was dating a child.
Yes but please also promote that this IS NOT a woman’s task to learn how to escape from a psycho
Mention too that MEN NEED EDUCATION!!!
And that poor beautiful defenseless dog what a monster.😢
Another case with an obsessive boyfriend/husband killing their girlfriend/wife :'( RIP Caroline and Roxy.
RIP Caroline and Roxy. No words, just be safe in heaven. So sad 😔
Roxy, poor puppy dog 😢🐕
I'm always more upset when the dogs are killed. 😔
@@verukasault9065 me to. To kill Roxy the way he did was just to be nasty to Caroline when she loved her so much. I cried when she said how he killed her. I had to stop watching amd come back to the video 😢
@@verukasault9065 Me too, wtf...poor baby.
Poor Roxy was likely trying to protect her person.
She was only 20years old. R.I.P beautiful lady.
19 her 20th Birthday wouldve have been in July
I love how you cover stories that aren’t “popular”. Good execution of this story. She was so young and was robbed of watching her child grow. How terrible
The cases where one spouse is killed and the other spouse is only tied up- The surviving spouse is always the perpetrator.
Alwaysssss
Yeah I knew as soon as they said he was tied up :/
I think the case of Sandra Melgar might change your mind. Matt Orchard did an excellent doc on it here on YT.
Correct. Lots of cases where womrn were left tied up and were actually the perpetrators.
@@nicholasprice6902 Yes! He did an amazing video on that case. Definitely check it out.
What is the deal with these men? Always trying to claim the woman they murdered was abusing the child/children. What low lifes.
Well they want to get away with the crime.
@@eadweard. I think it just makes them worse. Hope they spend the rest of their lives in solitary confinement, or have the other prisoners give them what they deserve.
and there is always someone who believe that claim
@@YYAT If he were smart, he'd lead with that and claim either self-defence/acting on Lydia's defence or having snapped after an extended period of abuse. Caroline's own diary admits she was abusive too, but more often than not murderers are a bit too stupid to even help themselves.
@@Su-mx7ix sick
As a man I often feel kind of ashamed that so many men feel such a need to control their partners/spouses, and abuse them if they refuse to be controlled. What the hell is wrong with us men that we can't accept when a relationship is over, can't allow our partners their space and freedom? How weak and insecure to beat and abuse a woman and then kill her for daring to leave.
Fellas, when she wants to leave, let her go. It's over. Learn from it, don't hold on. It's undignified, weak and unmanly. And at the extremes it's dangerous and can ruin lives.
To the women out there who have experienced this behaviour, I'm so sorry from us fellas. We should be protecting you all better than this.
That was heartwarming, thanks. Glad that there are men like you in the world
Well said - thank you
Wow. Thank you for this.
Sanctimonious twaddle.
Thank you for your kind words..
As soon as they said there was no camera footage, I was like.....the husband killed her
Why was that fact important?
@@eadweard. because the house had cameras everywhere. The chances of a group of robbers not showing up in any footage would have been almost zero, the chances of just the cameras that would have seen the robbers failing is also almost zero, and if the robbers had shut off the cameras they would have shut all the cameras off not just some of them and there probably would have been footage of a robber shutting them off. That meant the odds were 99% chance there was no group of robbers and the husband was lieing.
@@markcarpenter6020 I don't think there could have been footage of the robbers cos the idea was that they took the memory cards out of the cameras.
@@eadweard. the memory cards were only missing from some cameras and there was footage of the husband taking the cards out. As I said a robber would have taken all the footage/ shut all the cameras off. If you're robbing someone your not gonna take the time to figure out which cameras you are on.... every extra moment you spend commiting a crime is an extra moment you are leaving evidence and an extra moment in which you can be caught. Pros get in and get out and don't waste time.
@@markcarpenter6020 How could there have been footage of him taking the card out?
From the moment you hear "there were no witnesses and the cameras didn't work" it almost always leads to that one person who made the call.
Gosh this world is merciless and cruel 💔
I knew he was guilty when he showed no emotion whatsoever when the reporters asked him when he realized his wife was dead. You'd think a loving husband would get choked up when asked that question, n'est ce pas ?
It's not always easy for sociopaths to act completely normal. They slip up sometimes
Yes, leave unannounced but go far away, my sibling and I lost our moms strangled to death right before our eyes, couldn't help her. I was 13 and always felt a sense of guilt but he was to strong for us. Lucky both of us survived by having the sense to play dead after passing out a couple of times.
I’m sorry for your loss. That’s awful.
I hope you have peace and love in your life now. I hope there were many good memories of your mum before the appalling event.
How terrible,I’m so sorry about your mother. It isn’t your fault by no means and never will be. It’s the sick pos that strangled her.
That's horrific Jeffrey. God bless your mum too❤️ May you both be reunited one day in love and peace ❤️
That is horrific and traumatic. You not only lost your mother, but I’m sure it damaged you in a way people can’t imagine. I hope you were able to get therapy immediately after, and if you didn’t, seek it out now. You never know what kind of mental and emotional blocks trauma like that have caused.
I am Greek and this case is still everyday in the news..
Hi
If you are ready to leave your abusive partner, DO NOT tell your abusive partner you are leaving.... JUST LEAVE!!!
I'm sure I'm not the only true crime fan that called it being the husband from the beginning.
Not at all
we all did. its 99% of these kind of situations
he groomed her, married her, and then he was infuriated when he couldn't control her anymore.
This is really tragic, but it is incredible that they were able to use her smart watch data to get him to admit to what he did, its amazing what tools technology can give us.
If it was the USA, even with forensic evidence they still let murderers go free🙄
...it can also work against you......
Thank the woman who did her necropsy and couldn’t let it go, she alarmed the police since day one that the husband who she is also checked had not even a scratch.
And the police ignored her, they were ready to chase imaginary immigrants who kill mothers, instead on talking more with the doctor about the first evidence she found.
She asked for the smart watch to be checked.
A defense lawyer that actually had a soul.
Killing someone you love is demonic. Killing a helpless animal takes evil to another level. Not enough words to describe how evil this man is.
Rest in peace, Caroline and Roxy. I pray Lydia grows up to be the person her mum dreamed her to be. My sympathies to her family.
Well done with this presentation, TC👍. Kudos!
For sure I have no problem killing anyone that harms a child or animal put them in a cage and use a flamethrower.
I could not agree with you more! A real demonic monster
So killing animals is worse than killing humans?
They don’t love them, let’s get that right. They OWN them. Has nothing to do with love. Narcissists are only capable of loving themselves……
@@darkninja1693 to some yes. Weird right.
It has been proven the most dangerous place for a woman….is actually in the same house as the man she shares a bed with. Shout out to all the men working to change this by not only your own behavior, but how you raise your sons and which men you consider friends. RIP Caroline.
Statistics show that this is true.. by being in a relationship with a man you are basically increasing your risk of being a victim of homicide...
@@MS-dw2pb stop with the nonsense.
@@lc86_65 ah, statistics = nonsense. Thanks for clearing that up 🙄
@@daftlikejack don't get married to a man 10-15 years older than you. And the minute he hits you get out of there. She decided to write on her diary instead of taking action. When I heard the age gap it was disgusting. He was probably having a relationship with her when she was under age.
It's also statistically proven that the most dangerous place for children is with their mothers.
Such a tragic story. I’m glad he was charged with animal cruelty, poor Roxy RIP 😢 after watching so many true crime horror stories I have to say that when leaving a toxic, abusing relationship whether male or female, don’t tell the abuser that you are going to leave, just go. In a lot of of cases this happens when they are told that the victim is going to leave. RIP Caroline, both you and Roxy were taken too soon 😢
I hate it when they kill the animals too😩
It brings it to whole other level of evil.
He could have locked the poor dog in a different room or something😢
He is an evil, cowardly monster & needs to be locked up for the rest of his life😡
I hate it when they kill the humans too😫
It brings it to whole other level of evil.
He could have locked the poor humans in a different room or something😢
He is an evil, cowardly monster & needs to be locked up for the rest of his life😡
Thank you for speaking up for the poor pet. I agree with you
@@CorridorJ Really,ya think?
Obviously it's a given that killing his wife was horrible.
Not the point of my comment at all.
So animals lives have more value?
@@darkninja1693 nobody said that 😩.
I remember seeing articles on this case and thinking it was so strange that the husband was left alive. It reminded me of the Lululemon murder case. How awful.
Me tooooo!!! 100%
The Jennifer Pan case too. She said home invaders shot her parents but she was left unharmed, only tied up. Later they found out she paid the men to kill her parents.
@@fc7307 oh yes I know this one!! I’ve watched videos on it and the 911 audio is harrowing
@@fc7307 that was such an insane case, she was so young! And her Dad survived
And Samantha Wohlford.
1:42 She’s 15, he dates her being more than 10 years older (12) - he did it.
He would actually stalk her and push her to be with him. She was hesitant due to the age difference but he was persistent and manipulative and coerced her into a relationship.
@@evea.4358 🚩🚩🚩 not surprised!!!!!
They eloped to get married behind her parents' back.....
@@susivarga7303 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ I feel bad for her family
@@icingcake Classic grooming.
Elderly father, she was rich and spoilt ( not in a bad way ), wanted an adventure with the handsome young stud and fell for the lies.
Tragic.
12 years older than her that’s the biggest red flag 🚩
I thought that too!! 27 year old going out with a 15 year old?? Nonce vibes
They eloped to get married behind her parents's back.
I'm 12 years older than my partner
Yep, known her since she was a child, and more easily manipulated. Now she's a woman and mother. She's not a 12yo anymore. He was probably jealous of the baby and the dog. Losing control. Just disgusting.
@@Eyeballpaul84 It really depends how young the younger partner is when the relationship started. If the difference is 25 and 37 for example, nbd. If it's 15 and 27, that's very concerning. A 15yo is still a child.
An older man with control issues. Why am I not surprised. This is so sad for her family and daughter!
What were her Parent's thinking letting a 15 year old date a 28 year old man??!!😡
Her father gave an interview and said the first time he met the guy was after they eloped in Portugal. He whisked her away when she had just turned 18 so he could tie her down without her parents' consent. :(
@@nightgirlmelody6987 the bad thing is that teachers knew, the local society had seen them and no one raised an alarm. Ofc they didn’t do it with bad intention, they wanted to believe it is one of these great romantic stories you hear.
But this guy was following this girl during school excursions, no matter how romantic person you think you are, you have responsibility as a teacher to report that when an adult follows a minor. That was tragic mistake, parents should have been informed directly
Even worse,his mother was a teacher on Alonnisos!
Money
@@kadzo6614 money?? Her parents gave them money every month to support them, 1000 euros every month, and 50 thousand to buy land to build their house.
Pretty obvious that when "robbers" bother to strangle a woman and hang a dog but leave a strong healthy guy tied up and uninjured, the guy did it
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It’s fucking awful what happen to her and her beautiful beloved dog. My heart is broken on how fast her life ended and hurting her dog just made really personal. He deserves to rot. R.I.P Caroline and Rocky❤️
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27 years old and he starts dating a 15 year old. And he parents are OK with this?
I dont think they were so ok with it.
He got her to ELOPE with him right?
Not only did he steal his young wife's life he stole her from her daughter. As someone who has gone almost my whole life without my mom I can tell you this is 100% damaging. I send healing thoughts to that sweet baby. No one deserves to be without their mother. No one deserves to die.
He literally made his daughter watch his wife while she died. His daughter was screaming--how did his conscience not even feel a tiny bit towards her? What a sick bastard
@@ananonymousanemone4125 I don't get it at all. My heart hurts. There will be trauma there. I do appreciate the families working together because it's so cohesive. But I don't get it. Will never understand murder. I hate to say soulless. But.
@@kamikazimami2805Exactly! Instead of depriving your kid of a mom, why can’t you just divorce her?
@@ananonymousanemone4125 people don't think beyond their own wishes. The fact that this man tried to fake all this to an entire nation is galling. Soulless.
He also stole her innocence. 27 yr old with a 15 yr old. She got to old for him so he killed her.
I'm still struggling with the staggering age difference between them, and her parents were just like :"No biggie" the power imbalance and manipulation that likely happened between a teenager and a big grown man......using marriage doesn't gloss over the fact that this was a very inappropriate relationship from day 1.
Not uncommon in the Greek community.
@@annamarielewis7078 I am Greek and I have to disagree. It is not common at all. From day one of this crime, that was what bothered me the most. I couldn't compehernd how her parents just accepted her dating a grown man when she was still a child.
@Nicky L A man in his 30's checking for my teenaged daughter is going to jail or worse. If the only barrier between men and borderline children is the law that is creep factor level 1000.
My folks have a big age difference as well....my mother met my father in her late 20's, she was well out of her barbie-doll phase.
@@uyoebyik Wow, l just hope l am not understanding this in different perspective about the mom being a Filipina and the dad being English or foreign is always okay with big age gap. FYI, it's not always accepted in the Philippines that a young Filipina woman marrying an older foreign or even Filipino man. They are, actually, always looked down when the man is more financially stable or well off by people here, if only they are both financially equal. You don't know how much stigma this women are facing. So, you saying that is just purely judgemental. May l advice before you make a comment or say something, make sure it make sense and doesn't give the wrong impression.
Edit: Watch the victim's father inteview
@@karlycioama4206 Do you have a link to the victims father's interview?
Such a sad case . He had the most beautiful wife who loved him, but he abused & murdered her because of his own short comings.
I've heard about this and it was stated as a brutal home invasion.
When I first heard it, I wondered why they only killed the woman when the man is more of a threat to them than anything so they should have killed him and made the woman tell them where the money is then murder her too.
Home invaders either kill all occupants or just tie them up and beat them to submission.
Cases like these always bug me because only the woman and her dog were murdered.
I thought then I was maybe getting too suspicious from my years of watching crime documentaries that I always suspect the other half first.
They met when she was 15 and he was 27? YUCK. 🤢🤮
it would’ve been funny if the detectives put babis in front of a mirror after asking him to identify the suspect
As a Greek, that I experienced all these tragic events live, I dare to say that this specific video is the most objective about this specific case, with many details. Thank you for bringing up that case, a shout out to the world that nothing is as perfect as it seems, especially from what people show in the media...
not a single remorse nor is there any evidence of a man who lost his wife displayed across the husband face and body language.
This wonderful lady was just a chattel to him.
Exaaaactly. Fakest most awkward struggles to make 'sad' faces that ive ever SEEN.. STRANGEST dispassionate way of talkigabout it. The FARTHEST THING from the way a real bereaved trauma victim in that scenario would ever act.
His own affect told on him 100% straight from the gate.
100% LE KNEW it wss him immediayely, OF COURSE.
THANK GOD THEY GOT THEIR MAN.
Psychopaths don't feel remorse, Lisa.
Please, if your spouse is abusive in any way, make a plan in your head. Don’t write it down so they can’t find it. Save money where you can. Pack a get away bag. Tell someone you 100% trust that you’re leaving and ask them for help. DO NOT tell your abuser that you’re leaving. Just go. If you have children or pets Take them with you. Don’t think about anything else. Things can be sorted at a later date. Just leave. Please.
Since the minute where they said that the husband was left tied up, I knew it was him. Poor girl and poor 🐶🥺
Such a sad story, I’m a dad of one, and I can’t imagine leaving my son without a parent.
I have watched true crime videos sooo much that when i heard 'he was left tied up and the wife was murdered' i instantly said: 'he did it.''
Imagine finding out your dad killed your mum and made up an entire story, the trauma damn Lord please protect her
And that he left you next to her dead body!!! 😭
Nobody should marry and have a baby at 20. You haven't found out who you are or what you want to do or be yet. You also don't know how to judge people properly yet and she clearly never got to know this beast enough before she shackled herself to him and then had a baby with him. People rush into these big life decisions far too precipitously and are overwhelmed by the consequences.
Or she did know the kind of person he was and wanted the fancy lifestyle so she thought she could put up with it.
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People can have a baby at 20 if they want and you cant stop them.
I was 20. I wouldn't change a thing. Still with my hubby, too. Depends on the couple, really.
It actually depends on the person you start family tho. Still, better marry and have a child between 25 and 29/30
i'd like to thank you for always covering cases from around the world. i do hope to see more cases from the global south. i know research is harder due to lack of public information and language barriers but I think it's great and important whenever true crime expands outside of the scope of the US and UK. you see these horrible patterns and motives everywhere; human psychology is very predictable in a few ways. That is definitely my favorite thing about this channel so far. keep it up, dear narrator
Anybody who kills a little puppy or any animal is messed up
Where is Simon????? 👀
Kinda worse to kill a human though.
@@eadweard. Not really. Caroline brought a child and a pup into an abusive home. It sucks for her but she chose to stay (probably because she liked living the high life). The pup didn't. He was completely innocent.
@@Padmepotter4986 Well regardless of innocence, don't you think a human life is simply more important than that of a dog?
@@eadweard. Nope.
You speak so beautifully - very, very pleasing to listen to.
I'm glad one of his lawyers resigned for the right reasons and didn't stick in there just to bill and collect some hefty hourly fees.
Rest in peace Caroline, may God receive your soul and bless your loved ones 🙏
Rip Roxy
Only 4 mins in and I suspect the husband.. cases where there’s an alleged home invasion and one person is left alive are always suspicious
They don't mention this in the story but her husband was also having an affair with two females at his job!!
Probably why she decided she needed to leave him ASAP! I just wish you would have played it off like everything was fine.. called her family to help get her out of there safely and then ghosted his ass!
Wow of course he was. What a psycho. I wish he would get the same thing done to him.
Also, her husband allowed her to go nowhere by herself. He was always together with her, when she met her friends, when she was at the counselor's office, when she was at the food expert's office, even when she went for her wedding dress rehearsals. He only allowed her to use the taxi of one of his friends. She was also completely dependent on him when it came to money and he married her without her parents knowing, so that they wouldn't prevent the wedding. When the girl had a miscarriage, he pressured her to get pregnant again immediately, without caring about her mental and physical state and that's why the pregnancy was a tough one and the baby had some health issues after birth. Also, the counselor was found out to be a fake one because she was not certified.
I was wondering if that might have been an included factor, he seems kind of vain in every image and interview- not ever a hair out of place. The "affairs " scenario just seems to always accompany these horrendous tragic spousal /family killings.
Thank you for bringing us yet again another unheard of story from around the world! One of the best crime channels on YT; you deserve wayyy more subscribers and views 🙏🏽
the poor girl, the smart watch readings showed her suffering in her last moments ... the 7 month old puppy - how cruel ?!? 😭😭 how did this sweet lady end up marrying an evil monster?
Money
Unfortunately, it seems to me MOST women always chooses the wrong guy!
@@eddiechenchen9081..because of money and status.
@@kadzo6614no not money! She was 15 when he groomed her! Men always think somehow women chose them for money…I guess it makes them all feel better, blaming the women for being shallow. She was a teenager and he was 29….that is grooming! Get off the internet and get educated….
@@eddiechenchen9081no that is not it, it is that 90% are tota crap: euther violent abusers, control freaks, lazy cunts or disguting cheaters! Even a prick that no woman looked at him, once he find a wife that loves him….choses to try to cheat, control or damage her in a way, to make themselves good! Thank God women caught yo and are divorcing in drones….men need to stop with the non sense, if they want a family!
Wow, you guys were just at 200k and now already at 211k... so well deserved, and your channel will continuously grow!
Now 278k. Growing quickly!
Thank you so much for your ending statements on femicide and all violence against women. It’s truly heartbreaking continuing to see more and more women lose their lives at the hands of men.
Older man young girl, it was never going to be a happy marriage from the start. He was going to keep a harem of young girls on the side, even if we generalise about pilots, and he was a coward to kill her from finding true happiness because he was a maniac.
Can I say WELL DONE to your research and how you handled this case.
Being from this place and having followed this case closely and knowing all the details, I just want to congratulate you guys!
Never tell the abuser that you would leave him/her. Plan it wisely and walk away leaving no trace of finding you. I had to leave mine with an armed bodyguard. It’s been 13 years since and I’m happier, safer and very very far away from him.
Glad you're safe!! Hope this isn't your real name in that case and maybe don't show a profile pic?
@@frosinicapandispan5534 thank you but I'm alright and like I said, very far from him. My abuser was is still serving the army and he has a family of his own too. I'm sure as long as we don't cross paths, I'll be alright. Thank you so much ❤️
You sound like an overly dramatic Karen lol
@@That_Trans_Kid awww who hurt you?
The one thing I know for certain is domestic violence does not discriminate no matter colour gender or religion
I never thought I would see this case in your channel. As living very close to where they lived!
Such a tragedy for all involved 💔😢
I have heard about this case but not with as much information or compassion as you have so respectfully given us. Thank you ❤️🇦🇺
My notifications are playing up but i knew if i continued to refresh your video would come up. Thank you
They met when she was 15? That's all I need to hear 😡
why would he kill their dog? its already disgusting that he killed his wife but to kill their dog too? wtf?
Thank you for naming this video after Caroline and not the monster that took her life!
Ugh. Another man kills his wife..its an epidemic
What a monster to murder a mother and her dog 😡
A 27 y old man involved with a 15 y old girl. Where were her parents to put a stop to this? I remember being a naive teen thinking I must be really mature if an older guy showed attention. But my dad knew better and would scare them off. Now I know better. These men look for young girls because they're easier to control. They start by grooming them.
I think they got married when she was 18 so he was 30. If a man isn’t married by then, you’ve got to have a good look at his background. Either he’s gay, a workaholic or an abuser. This guy likely had a string of relationships and the women ended up leaving his abusive ass. So his next step was to find a girl he could completely control. What a f*cking loser. I hope he rots in jail.
He convinced Caroline to elope when she was 18. Her parents had absolutely no idea and they actually met him first time after they were already married.
I had a 25 year old that used to "chase" after me when I was 15. It totally grossed me out, cuz he was old in my eyes. My dad would have whooped him silly if he'd shown up at my house. Men like that are creeps just trying to find someone to control.
Please ladies, always remember your worth. You are Queens who deserve to be treated as such. Never settle for anything less. NEVER.
She was too young so he took advantages of ... he was already on her at 14 ...
This is really true. I was younger than my ex and he manipulated my mind to think that I was nothing without him. That me and our child together will be living in the street if we get a divorce. He’s always away for work and who knows what. I eventually found out he has a mistress. I’m just lucky he isn’t abusive to me physically but mentally yes! He would threaten me he will send me back home and will live a poor life and tells me that I’m not the prettiest or not even hot.
Thank you for the animal cruelty warning.
Lol touch grass lady
It's nice to hear that gmthe grandparents on each side are at minimum being civil toward each other, and trying to keep the baby's best interests at heart. There are so many bitter cases where this just can't happen. I suppose a lot has to do with how the parents of the murderer respond to the whole thing. Good on all of them for making this about the baby and not themselves. Its s hard thing to do sometimes.
Just discovered your channel and LOVE IT, I've now subscribed and am now binge watching 👀!
I so appreciate this channel! My only complaint is that I want more!!
I’m so glad I subbed to this channel… So much great info etc…
Same
fitness trackers are becoming crucial in many murder cases.
Technology caught him
What a monster...killed his wife and dog and then left his child by her dead mother's body..
I remember this case, and I think I read an article on it pretty recently. What an absolute asshole. Girls, always remember that you have no obligation to stay in a relationship that you aren’t respected in. You’re first, then everyone else. I hope you Rest In Peace Caroline! ❤️❤️❤️
I had my suspicions on the guy when i first heard the story, thanks true crime media!
@@pandas941 Same lmao 😂. To be fair, the spouse is somehow always guilty in these cases; it’s so baffling how they think they’re so invincible
I didnt watch thewhole video since im Greek and i heard it on the news but caroline tried to divorce him and take lydia away from him but you know.. he treated her like a shit
So we're all just gonna ignore the fact that he met her at 15 ? She was a child. It could never end well.
Ikr. Everyone here is talking about the dog, but nobody pays attention that he was 13 years older.
a pedophile who groomed his victim..disgusting
@@user-kj1pq6zh3xYou think he wouldn't have done the same think if she was his age??
In Greece is a tradition of teenage girls to hooking up with adult males.........it's the norm....most couples have big age differences.
so?@@dougk2932
I am new to your channel and completely addicted. Thank you for your excellent presentation of each case.
so many (self)-congratulory comments on these channels :D
Thank you for featuring lesser "known and featured" cases.
Sometimes life is not as beautiful as it appears from the outside. Beautiful, young, educated, has a career, married, has a beautiful house in a beautiful country, husband with a decent job, has very adorable child, cute dog and cats... Ends tragically... RIP
I love this channel. You put a lot of work into your videos, much appreciated....and your voice is so soothing 🔥🤗😱💥
This channel is gold. Thank you
For your work.
Great episode! Brilliant narration