The Deuterium Dilemma - Dr. Stephanie Seneff, MIT, DSPod
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- čas přidán 18. 06. 2024
- Today we are sitting down with Dr. Stephanie Seneff, an MIT researcher, who has spent more than a decade obsessively investigating the role that industrial herbicides play in the modern health-scape. This is our second conversation with Dr. Seneff, following up on our detailed discussion of the myriad ways that the herbicide, glyphosate, interferes with cellular processes throughout the body. This time we are digging a bit deeper into how herbicides affect the balance of deuterium, or heavy hydrogen, in the body, and how this dysregulation might promote various disease states. We also go much further into the solution sets facing humanity as these startling realizations become more and more difficult to ignore.
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00:00 Go!
00:04:36 The deuterium story
00:13:51 Disturbing the electrical balance of cells
00:23:41 How sugar destroys proteins
00:32:26 Why is the link between glyphosate and cancer so elusive?
00:42:10 Cancer as a metabolic disease?
00:53:02 Low doses are more toxic than high doses?
01:03:24 How dependent are we on glyphosate?
01:10:08 Abandoning the cities is hardly an answer
01:18:30 Why can't we have another silent spring?
01:25:00 Industry pressure on researchers?
01:33:16 Closing thoughts
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40:33 “I’ve hadn’t thought of that til now” this is why I respect individuals who are passionate about their research. They are always ready to expand their horizon ❤️♾️
Silent Spring . . . Being one of those children who ran through the fog behind the truck, I certainly remember the change in how insecticides were viewed by the public. I would suggest the reason we cannot have a like response is that society and government has been reconstructed into the corporate model. Yet again, the governments change really began with Ronald Reagan. In the 1960s government was far more civic in nature and action. Even ancillaries such as Patricia Nixon were hugely instrumental in expanding volunteerism with ethical environmental focus into the social fabric. Our last First Lady apparently "didn't care, do you?". If we could extricate the corporate mentality from our society (or at least push it back to where it belongs) we might be able to live long healthy productive lives.
Thoughts on things said: 1. Why no small farms. Tbis is not due to young people wanting to live in cities. The government subsidize farms who were unable to sell in the regular market. So farmers started to grow more crops because the government would purchase any crop not supported by the normal market. So if a farm had 4 acres and only 2 acres could be sold on the market, farmers would plant and grow 4 acres as the government would buy it for market value. So industrial large farms began developing and dominating prices in the market due to having larger quantities at lower and pricing out small farmers. Only large farms remain and small farms can't make money and survive. Also, there is so much crop or food from the the goverment it supplies welfare for poor but also dumps massive amounts on mexico and other countries for pennies on the dollar which in tern destroys mexicos economy and put there farm industry's out of business
@1:03:50 Stephanie says it's only after WW2 that we started using poisons in agriculture but that's not true. We were spraying arsenic, then lead-arsenic in the 19th century to try to kill pests on cotton and fruits. If fact, Forrest Maready believes that this is why poliomyelitis became a thing, not due to the virus, which is a rare cause, but due to metal poisoning.
Seems like just the other day you had your first interview with Dr Stephanie,,,,,,,,, such a wonderful person and such a great talk. Very much looking forward to diving into this latest installment once again thanks
1:03:50 this is the question that pops up in a lot of interview that should he expanded on. “How did we survive without it before?”
We were using heavy metals to control pests for a hundred years before then.
One of the attractions of glycosate is that it reduces the need for tilling and is cheaper than the cost of tractor fuels. Might I suggest you look into Permaculture as an alternative to monoculture. Dare I suggest that homeopathy also works on the principle of the potency of low doses? Also the efficacy of biodynamic agriculture on detoxifying soils in particularly dioxins. You make the comment that you'd like to think that we are an intelligent race of animals that can solve our problems, but actually it was that thinking that created the problems in the first place. It is not our thinking that is flawed, but our paradigm. Love your work by the way.
The polarisation that happens as a result of such corruption in th epast has lead to the collapse of societies, Rome, the great depression, MAGA. It's not that one tribe has the answers. Whatever works against the polarisation of society, that it is in relationship rather than transactions that demonstrates our intelligence. It's a tough call for American 'can do' ethos. Perhaps I'm wrong. I wonder what you think. I don't think it is true to say that the government doesn't know about these problems. The point is that government is a follower not a leader. It isn't possible to think outside the election cycle. I totally agree with closing remarks.
Some more isotope ideas. Carbon isotopes may also have different effects on the body. And oxygen isotopes bind different in ozone.
From physical perspective. The acidity in and out of the cell may create a strong electrical field. As strong as in lightning. This will affect how chemistry works. Even the Stark effect becomes very influential.
42:50 Get Thomas Siegfried on the show he will explain the biophysics of cancer and mitochondria etc. What feeds cancer and how to starve it.
With the interference of the mitochondria the cell loses its's apoptosis function and replicates without control also it goes into a primitive state using fermentation.
To compensate for the lack of ATP (energy) production from oxidative phosphorylation, cells with dysfunctional mitochondria may switch to a less efficient energy production process called fermentation.
Fermentation occurs in the cytoplasm (cellular fluid) and produces energy much faster than oxidative phosphorylation, but at the cost of generating fewer ATP molecules per glucose molecule.
This metabolic switch to fermentation is a hallmark of cancer cells, often referred to as the "Warburg effect."
Correct, she talks about this in my other podcast. Even more than seyfried her and Boros and others find that metobolic water in the cytochrome c oxidase complex 4 stops being made. Interestingly enough, methylene blue can reverse the warburg effect and help clear lactate when mixed with l alpha lopaic acid. Deuterium depleted water also helps reverse the warburg effect but also looks at affecting the mitosis process of cancer cells because the dna formed in the sister cells would be less likely to use the Deuterium and use protium hydrogen atoms to replicate. Deiterium dna production is problematic because the bonds are stronger, and mutations copied can not be spliced repaired or destroyed in synthesis or other immune checkpoints
Amazing
CZcams don't want anybody to question how profit is made by wall street.
I am near eighty years old and when I did not speak until the age of three, then no diagnosis of autism went beyond unable to talk or be toilet trained.
An increase in autism diagnosis is as poor today as before but for different reasons. Iatrogenesis is ever present.
Very nice and intelligent lady.
Lots to learn.
applies to both of them
Have not yet listened but very much looking forward. I hope she talks about low deuterium water….i did some searching and it sounds like there’s almost no way to make it inexpensively for oneself.
Perhaps you might bring in Matt Ridley on some of this for another perspective.
I do appreciate the open-mindedness of your show. There are real concerns for a more fulsome view of pros and cons of "modern tech" and science as it is being practiced. Diet and exercise most certainly have generally declined significantly - affecting health generally.
I also wonder how the apparent growth of various diseases and conditions have been affected by the fact that child mortality has been reduced... in the past, more babies didn't survive birth and infancy.. now babies have been saved, but often with lasting conditions... not clear at all to me how large that dynamic is... this on top of the measurement bias.. in my youth (60s, 70s), allergies seemed rare, but today, every case of sniffles is analyzed for some deep cause.
Psychosomatics are real too.. and so hard to parse.
Regarding gut health, I would like to learn more about the major acids.. particularly Malic acid.. I find that it is uniquely good for my gut... this from a basic layman's experience.
I have known for decades the food/chemicals damages everything.
AtkinsRealis, AECL, and CNL team up to bolster heavy water production in Canada. Pharmaceutical applications remain secondary, but perhaps there is a market for the deuterium depleted water. Waste not want not.
Interesting. I hope the solutions are that simple even if the political will is so weak.
Wished you asked her if there are any microbes that can break down glyphosate. Surely nature has to have such a solution. It would be fantastic.
a nobel prize worthy project if there ever was one
@@DemystifySci_Podcast Well, it s not unheard of. Bifido bacteria help us eliminate a lot of bad stuff. Ask dr Sabine Hazan - invite her to the podcast, I'm sure you would be impressed about her resesrch, which is, similar to dr Senef's, heavily censored.
@@DemystifySci_Podcast - Others have mentioned that cows can break down glyphosate. But I don't know if it's by way of their gut microbes or another means.
1 in 36 is the rate, but ... "ASD is nearly 4 times more common among boys than among girls"
That is changing because of how the testing was done; today women are almost half of all being diagnosed.
1:38:45
"Worldwide Opportunities on Organic Farms"
What about radioactive fertilizer (apatite I think) being used on consumables? It seems OK for most stuff, but apparently it was traced, by a previous US General Surgeon, to be the cause of 90% of lung cancer from tobacco, because the leaves are sticky and it stays on there. Strontium-90, Polonium-210, and other isotopes...
I hate them using Glyphosate (well - on anything really) on potato crops to kill off the greenery for harvesting - there's no time for it to make its way out of the plant and it concentrates in the tuber. Mmm... Where I live, I talked to someone who worked in the potato fields and he had to wear a hazmat suit when he went out there...
There's so many pharmaceuticals in the Mississippi in Central Minnesota, especially birth control and anti-depressants, the fish change sexes. Only told to eat a max of 1 fish out of the river a year.
The Soil Food Web School seems to be a perfect solution to these problems...
1:09:08 “they sold them for beef” brings me to the thought of regenerative dna. Imagine reproducing meat with just one cow. Morbid but…..
"Adapt and overcome" they say... Well i guess the Genetically modified crops Out-adapt us. I was hoping Monsanto would have gotten "The Message" last time they were sued. I remember how badly wrong "Biosphere"-experiments went. Why doesn't Monsanto?
yeeeeeeeeaaaahhh!
Follow what is happening in El Salvador, for a hospital environment done as decentralized from the big money censorship of 'profit at any cost'. A hospital run by the doctors, not the product sellers. And, this is being entertained by a supportive government. IMHO This is based on quantum physics science affecting biology, a no-brainer that gets so censored by most governments.
Okay comment of the day.🎉 I believe it's not that the government needs to wake up and realize that the population is sick, I think it's that the population needs to wake up and see that the government is sick. I also believe it is the work of people like yourself that are giving us the information that we need to weigh against our personal beliefs to make those decisions about what is going on in our personal lives and in the World At Large......
Check out what is happening in El Salvador. Doctors trying to come together 'for the people', AND be supported by government. Pie in the sky?, But how else?
Political sickness is part and parcel of public sickness, in what the public supports and allows or submits to without a fight. For example, see how pathogen exposure and parasite load is correlated to higher rates of authoritarianism. This is explained according to the behavioral immune system and the parasite-stress theory.
But other stressors also correlate to social, behavioral, and neurocognitive problems. Consider that high inequality is linked to social dominance orientation, Machiavellianism, aggression, conflict, violent crime, addiction, alcholism, mental illness, fantasy-proneness, etc.
Then combine it all together in how research shows authoritarianism and social dominance overlap in many ways across populations, even as they're distinct measures in individuals. That isn't including still other stressors: hormone mimics and disruptors, lead toxicity, and on and on.
I only consume seriously filtered water.
How is deuterium tested?
The best way is to freeze an empty glass jar, then to breathe into the jar and the water in your breath should condense onto the walls. Send that breath derived water to lab.
@@shiftyparadigm7049 What is the name of the lab to send it to?
@@shiftyparadigm7049 Hmmmm, shifty.
Patreon censored my creator have left that Platform.
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What you dont hear anywhere about vegetables is that the glyphosate and other pesticides and herbicides are a REALLY small percentage of their total toxicity. By last estimates it was less than 3%. Vegetable anti-nutrients are the real problem with them as far as disease goes. Obviously seed oils are far more lethal being the main reason for cardiovascular disease. And then sugar, and then the randle cycle, that is combining refined carbs/sugars with fats in too large quantities.
The main problem of glyphosate is likely not it's toxicity. It is an antibiotic that kills off gut microbes. And it replaces glycine in protein produciton. But that said, the same reason it kills bacteria is why it can also be toxic to the mitochondria. Anyway, it's all of these pathways of harm combined that makes it far worse than most other things. Not to say that antinutrients aren't problematic as well. Fortunately, one can avoid both glyphosate and antinutrients without having to choose between which is worse.
@@MarmaladeINFP Indeed. Carnivore 4 life.
Shilo looks like he is enjoying some mushrooms...
Not only looks.
Runw
Google ban me to make comment for 24H several times per month.
what did you say?
@@DemystifySci_Podcast I cannot say, then I'll be banned again! It started early 2020 when I challenged the narrative about the "plague".
@@mossig that'll do it!
Most of the time it is because of algorithms which are the real problem.
@@artemisXsidecross Not only, if I write in code, like spelling wrong etc, still you can get banned. Everytime I get banned, I send a reply message with foul language, yet they have not permanently banned me. That proves they don't read people's objections.
Dr these people barely understand what deuterium vs glycation means. No idea what you mean lady. Children have been picky eaters forever. This lady does not understand children, if its good for you they turn their noses at. Anything good they spit out. Went into a pizza place the other day, two boys not yet in puberty sat down with two huge plates of salad. They ate every bit. Odd.