Michael Malice: Totalitarianism and Anarchy | Lex Fridman Podcast

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  • Michael Malice is a political thinker, podcaster, and author. Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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    OUTLINE:
    0:00 - Introduction
    0:32 - Animal Farm
    3:34 - Emma Goldman
    6:39 - Albert Camus
    8:09 - How to be a hero in Nazi Germany
    15:15 - Camus on Existentialism vs Nihilism
    21:17 - Cynicism is a lie
    26:24 - Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union
    46:43 - Lex and Michael argue: can most people think on their own?
    58:21 - How Lex and Michael use Twitter
    1:07:43 - Life is beautiful
    1:10:46 - Returning to Ukraine
    1:12:39 - Michael is now an underwear model
    1:16:45 - The Anarchist Handbook
    1:18:32 - Tolstoy was an anarchist
    1:31:14 - Anarchy debate between Lex and Michael
    2:00:22 - Why Michael doesn't vote
    2:17:37 - Austin and New York
    2:26:13 - Alex Jones
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  • @lexfridman
    @lexfridman  Před 2 lety +890

    Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast.
    0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:
    - Gala Games: gala.games/lex
    - Indeed: indeed.com/lex to get $75 credit
    - BetterHelp: betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off
    - MasterClass: masterclass.com/lex to get 15% off
    0:32 - Animal Farm
    3:34 - Emma Goldman
    6:39 - Albert Camus
    8:09 - How to be a hero in Nazi Germany
    15:15 - Camus on Existentialism vs Nihilism
    21:17 - Cynicism is a lie
    26:24 - Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union
    46:43 - Lex and Michael argue: can most people think on their own?
    58:21 - How Lex and Michael use Twitter
    1:07:43 - Life is beautiful
    1:10:46 - Returning to Ukraine
    1:12:39 - Michael is now an underwear model
    1:16:45 - The Anarchist Handbook
    1:18:32 - Tolstoy was an anarchist
    1:31:14 - Anarchy debate between Lex and Michael
    2:00:22 - Why Michael doesn't vote
    2:17:37 - Austin and New York
    2:26:13 - Alex Jones

    • @cuzimaluzer777
      @cuzimaluzer777 Před 2 lety +21

      Omg that thumbnail is AMAZING

    • @bennyyoungblood
      @bennyyoungblood Před 2 lety +1

      @@cuzimaluzer777 ain't it

    • @bezoznaught5261
      @bezoznaught5261 Před 2 lety +22

      I was actually hoping the whole show was going to be Michael being Lex, interviewing Lex being Michael XD

    • @adeshmishra1671
      @adeshmishra1671 Před 2 lety +6

      First video in which the purpose of life is not mentioned..

    • @jaseboon6282
      @jaseboon6282 Před 2 lety +1

      I'm Boxer sadly

  • @strawmanfallacy
    @strawmanfallacy Před 2 lety +5310

    This is the best podcast intro ever.

  • @austinfry3096
    @austinfry3096 Před 2 lety +4699

    I feel like I finally watched enough of Lex's podcasts that I unlocked new skins...

  • @MFnDahk
    @MFnDahk Před rokem +227

    Lex and malice still make one of the best shows I've ever seen. Stay healthy, we need more like yall.

    • @swapticsounds
      @swapticsounds Před rokem

      Humoristic highlight of this episode: Lex: "Don´t make me put on this hat again" :D
      As a left but non-fundamentalist anarchist, I felt similarly, or at least, I loved that joke. When the concept of the state gets strawmanned too much I feel the urge to defend something what I actually don´ wanna defend but have differenciated debate about it. (Like the polarised debates as well, when presented with humor, as it is done here)
      I go with Schmachtenberger´s replies to Lex` questions regarding to that topic complex:
      Do I criticize the current parlamentary democracy model? Can I imagine it better? Yes.
      Do I want the state to end abruptly and being replaced by the structural power of private companies? No.
      Do I have trust that private companies will become smaller and fairer as soon as they are not backed up by the state anymore? No.
      Would I trust privately payed security services and private arbitral tribunals to be more neutral as current police and judiciary?
      Absolutely not.

    • @MFnDahk
      @MFnDahk Před rokem +4

      @@rocketBTW if you didn't enjoy these 2 then it's definitely a you thing, no matter what your mom tells you.

    • @Dustin-ux6fl
      @Dustin-ux6fl Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@rocketBTWwhat's your taste then? Rachel Maddow?

  • @stevebuffinton1094
    @stevebuffinton1094 Před 2 lety +46

    25 min in and I've only been listening to this. When I sat down and looked at the screen and seen their outfits I cracked up with a giddy happiness. Such deep conversation paired with the silliness of these two men is fantastic. And I'm not trying to cast disparaging comments on their heritage in that statement. Being deep, silly, and honoring their heritage was done quite brilliantly. Love it, love these two.

  • @willy8s
    @willy8s Před 2 lety +2043

    Michael's impression captures Lex's inflection so well, yet overall it's so distinctly Michael.

    • @anonony9081
      @anonony9081 Před 2 lety +70

      "Anarcast"

    • @dominicklittle9828
      @dominicklittle9828 Před 2 lety +8

      That’s what I was gunna say, I want to see him try to go full lex tho. That would be awesome to have malice host the show even tho he pretty much does without realizing it

    • @harrysachs2274
      @harrysachs2274 Před 2 lety +25

      "Simpleton" lol.

    • @erkkiboy
      @erkkiboy Před 2 lety +8

      Laughing so hard at the intro 😊

    • @tomn4295
      @tomn4295 Před 2 lety +1

      I love his impressions in his audio book of "the new right".

  • @KevinSmith-gw5rk
    @KevinSmith-gw5rk Před 2 lety +1384

    Lex: “It was a joke”
    Michael: “It was a failure”
    Lex: “There is no triumph without failure”
    Love you guys

  • @jdwar11
    @jdwar11 Před rokem +27

    These two gentlemen had one of the best conversations I have ever seen or heard. I like to try and hold any comments until the very end during either of these guys talks so I can really focus and think about what they are actually saying and let it sink in. I am now watching this for the third time in it’s entirety and just blown away with these two.

  • @John_Notmylastname
    @John_Notmylastname Před rokem +24

    I love Lex’s ability to let things sit and be quiet without inserting courtesies mindlessly. Let the moment play out.

  • @AliBooondok
    @AliBooondok Před 2 lety +1099

    The beginning is fucking the best thing that ever has happened.

    • @colbybohannan3394
      @colbybohannan3394 Před 2 lety +7

      No, it’s not.

    • @HandleHandleson
      @HandleHandleson Před 2 lety +1

      @WorldFlex extremely bad sarcasm and hyperbole * It's disgusting, I agree

    • @cozy4920
      @cozy4920 Před 2 lety +1

      @WorldFlex that’s just how we were raised 🤷🏻‍♂️ thank the parents of your generation

    • @MicahMicahel
      @MicahMicahel Před 2 lety +4

      @@cozy4920 I think it's because you grow up in social media. We never had the self awareness your generations do, so we were able to be more sincere.

    • @Pow3llMorgan
      @Pow3llMorgan Před 2 lety +4

      @@eliyahfeld Millenials is a pretty large grouping and constitute people from ages 25 to 40. I would probably be willing to bet they are the largest audience to this podcast. I'm pretty much in the center of the Millenial generation (born '89) and I've been following Lex's podcast keenly since its beginning.

  • @wuvs2spooge
    @wuvs2spooge Před 2 lety +1155

    Michael: *crying*
    Lex: "You appear to have sprung a leak, here is an absorbent square of paper"

  • @artigraphmultimedia1489
    @artigraphmultimedia1489 Před rokem +17

    Absolutely Riveting. Conversation on human capacity for good, evil, banality, and cruelty.
    ""That mediocre person with a little bit of power ... "
    The courage to be weird, heroism with and without martyrdom..
    I will hit you up payday Lex.
    Thank you Thank you ❤️🙏

  • @58frascatti
    @58frascatti Před rokem +4

    Most powerful thing I’ve seen in many years. Gilbert Allardyce, my 1st year history prof in 1968, brought me to the same mental and emotional place. I’ve been a student of history ever since. I’m 78 now, and have viewed the world through the same lens ever since. I’ve been accused of being callous, hard nosed, etc. But the fact is, through years of ups and downs, I’ve never come anywhere near the horrors others have endured. Arendt’s “Origins of Totalitarianism “ made it clear to me how fragile our cushy lives actually are. I see clearly how my country (🇨🇦) is careening into authoritarianism but I have no power to change it’s course. Malice offers the solace of small, personal acts of kindness and humanity. Lines like “…til human voices wake us and we drown”, and “slouching toward Bethlehem “ are more and more meaningful. Meanwhile, spring is on its way, and I consider it my duty to savour each moment.

  • @MeticulousTechTV
    @MeticulousTechTV Před 2 lety +457

    I've watched lots of interviews with Michael, and no one quite tempers the troll side of him like Lex does. As a result, his brilliance really shines in these conversations without his obnoxious side overwhelming the conversation. These conversations are the best of Michael and in some ways also the best of Lex, great stuff!

    • @inthefade
      @inthefade Před 2 lety +44

      Lex also isn't afraid to play along. Just check out the costumes. He is indeed a great foil for Malice, bringing out the best in him. I wouldn't call it tempering, and I absolutely love Michael's trolling, but there is definitely something fantastic about the way these guys interact.

    • @phobletera
      @phobletera Před 2 lety +5

      It makes Michael too dangerous too soon.

    • @VorpalDerringer
      @VorpalDerringer Před 2 lety +1

      I do like the troll side of Malice, but that is good news, I will make time to listen.

    • @MmeO
      @MmeO Před 2 lety +20

      Lex brought out a side of Michael I have never seen - his discussion about his grandfather and what his Russian family endured during WW2 - soul crushing.

    • @thomasgregson13
      @thomasgregson13 Před 2 lety +6

      100% agreed !

  • @ChrisWillx
    @ChrisWillx Před 2 lety +1301

    My ears are burning 💜 Big love boys x

    • @kennelson5096
      @kennelson5096 Před 2 lety +7

      Thank Mr. Malice next time you speak for another subscriber to your podcast. Cheers.

    • @0fuxTaken
      @0fuxTaken Před 2 lety +32

      Chris, when are you going to play dressup with Michael? 😁

    • @S3aCa1mRa1n
      @S3aCa1mRa1n Před 2 lety +8

      Oh shiiit modern wisdom 😀

    • @2CSST2
      @2CSST2 Před 2 lety +1

      Holy crap I hope you could get some water and relieve yourself! Please next time you don't need to comment it on youtube, it's dangerous take care not to burn alive :O

    • @kellanaldous7092
      @kellanaldous7092 Před 2 lety +14

      My dyslexia read that as "love big boys"

  • @SecondClassCitizen
    @SecondClassCitizen Před rokem +13

    Seeing Malice break down caught me completely off guard. He is always so happy.

  • @jyotiprakashpanda4717
    @jyotiprakashpanda4717 Před rokem +58

    The moment when Michael asks if he can swear and Lex goes, "Fuck Yes", is podcasting gold. Wow.

    • @skinksinthecity
      @skinksinthecity Před rokem

      Lol, agreed. Awesome episode & I most definitely will watch this again.. Malice is a Legend to me, & Lex is incredible as an interviewer/journalist & I am hooked.👍

    • @reveilleamerica3589
      @reveilleamerica3589 Před rokem

      Kim Jon ill is a son of a bitch
      Got the blue balls,crabs,
      And the seven year itch

    • @deepakx7
      @deepakx7 Před rokem +1

      yeah it gave me nerd chills

    • @afox3096
      @afox3096 Před rokem

      Have

  • @petracs1187
    @petracs1187 Před 2 lety +603

    Michael: “can I curse?”
    Lex: “fuck yes.”

    • @FelixDKatz-tb7or
      @FelixDKatz-tb7or Před 2 lety +17

      In his least, but yet still robotic tone.

    • @mentalcasanova6420
      @mentalcasanova6420 Před 2 lety +46

      You can hear him downloading the vulgarity library.

    • @petracs1187
      @petracs1187 Před 2 lety +7

      @@mentalcasanova6420 the best reply

    • @NothingHumanisAlientoMe
      @NothingHumanisAlientoMe Před 2 lety +10

      @@petracs1187 Neo turn to Morpheus..."I learned the urban dictionary"

    • @sageii5614
      @sageii5614 Před 2 lety

      Can I speak the truth about Israel?
      Fuck no. What do you think this is? speaking truth to power?

  • @foxmulder6602
    @foxmulder6602 Před 2 lety +435

    And I thought the outfit, where Michael was inversed Lex with white suite, couldn't be trumped xD

    • @Xpistos510
      @Xpistos510 Před 2 lety +16

      Michael Malice is the guy who will buy DLC expansion packs just for the most ridiculous character skins to view in the cutscenes.

    • @Good_Horsey
      @Good_Horsey Před 2 lety +7

      Lex is gonna need Alex Jones on for the 300th episode to beat this one.

    • @Xpistos510
      @Xpistos510 Před 2 lety

      @@Good_Horsey Agreed.

    • @JerseySlayer
      @JerseySlayer Před 2 lety +1

      We should petition both wear Power Armor in episode #250. I guess It's acceptable if Michael dresses as Liberty Prime.

  • @patrickdavidge
    @patrickdavidge Před rokem +16

    There is only one word that I can use to describe this excellent interview. “Grounding” 🤝

  • @JoelNTerry
    @JoelNTerry Před 2 lety +33

    Wow, really uplifting stuff from Micheal, usually I love him for his humour and amazing sense of humour but this conversation I found him to be absolutely inspiring and so helpful...Incredible!

  • @itsmorgan10
    @itsmorgan10 Před 2 lety +437

    Michael doing the intro....
    I can already tell I'm going to enjoy this one.

    • @Menaceblue3
      @Menaceblue3 Před 2 lety +5

      When Michael dressed in the white suit, black shirt getup a while back, that was peak humor
      Now there's Lex playing into the joke as well....
      I can't even....😆😂🤣

    • @philthedrill2244
      @philthedrill2244 Před 2 lety +4

      "Michael is a simpleton" 😂😂😂

  • @Eyes2theSkies1218
    @Eyes2theSkies1218 Před 2 lety +287

    “The fuckin robot made me cry.” I legitimately laughed out loud and scared my dog 😂😂

  • @LittleOrla
    @LittleOrla Před 2 lety +7

    What a beautiful, inspiring conversation. Tears in my eyes and a smile on my face throughout. 💕

  • @Hunorion
    @Hunorion Před 2 lety +17

    This intro from Michael has saved my soul so many times. Every time I feel hopeless, I watch it again and I can't really explain this, but it makes life tolerable, even joyful sometimes. Thank you!

  • @jtrich1975
    @jtrich1975 Před 2 lety +389

    “The robot made me cry.” Classic….

  • @paulpilecki4037
    @paulpilecki4037 Před 2 lety +244

    "...wtf the robot is the one that makes me cry"
    Couldn't contain myself with that one😂😂😂

  • @danepaulstewart8464
    @danepaulstewart8464 Před 2 lety +4

    One of the more amazing discussions I have seen between people of this age, possibly ever.

  • @JJL1342
    @JJL1342 Před rokem +16

    You two were made for each other. I love this.

  • @Omnia-ad-gloriam-dei
    @Omnia-ad-gloriam-dei Před 2 lety +429

    I'm watching almost everything from Michael Malice lately.

  • @bizarro20daves
    @bizarro20daves Před 2 lety +223

    "I've been walking around the house working on my lex impression. I've been leaking motor oil everywhere" lol!

  • @mikejackson8963
    @mikejackson8963 Před 2 lety +2

    Wish I could finish this... Lex has his moments that are special.

  • @Charlie-kn7zg
    @Charlie-kn7zg Před 5 měsíci +1

    This is how you know Michael malice is a real human being. Love you bro. Powerful message!

  • @TANGOSVC
    @TANGOSVC Před 2 lety +759

    I wish Lex to wear a full adidas tracksuit to his podcast.

    • @samanthaqiu3416
      @samanthaqiu3416 Před 2 lety +59

      full slav ancap mode

    • @jesuud6870
      @jesuud6870 Před 2 lety +13

      🤣🤣🤣🤣 I would love that

    • @Myohomoto
      @Myohomoto Před 2 lety +30

      Full Gopnik

    • @akbrooks70
      @akbrooks70 Před 2 lety +36

      I grew up with this guy, his dad immigrated from Yugoslavia and ended up owning a few shrimping boats. Their whole family wore nothing but track suits. Even their cousins came over from Yugoslavia in the early 90’s wore nothing but track suits. It was the funniest shit.

    • @DBFIU
      @DBFIU Před 2 lety +5

      Full gopnik!!!!!!!! Do it lex

  • @fretpound
    @fretpound Před 2 lety +70

    Michael’s impression of Lex was perfect with the exception of one thing: He did not mention love once in the introduction.

  • @TheGoodDogTraining
    @TheGoodDogTraining Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you for this very special conversation between friends-exchanging ideas and life. 🙏❤️

  • @martefact
    @martefact Před 2 lety +5

    This entire conversation describes and explores my childhood experience. The banality of evil is so very very real.

  • @mitch3357
    @mitch3357 Před 2 lety +419

    That intro is too good!!
    “Michael is an Author, AnnaCast and simpleton.” -

    • @samanthaqiu3416
      @samanthaqiu3416 Před 2 lety +8

      sorry for the interruption but there is no such thing as annacast OP meant anarchist
      thanks and good afternoon

    • @mitch3357
      @mitch3357 Před 2 lety +9

      @@samanthaqiu3416 starting to think that he also didn’t mean that Michael is a simpleton 🧐 upon closer inspection THAT WAS Michael.
      Now I’m confused 😝
      ✌️❤️

    • @n.s.3812
      @n.s.3812 Před 2 lety +5

      Came here literally just to read comments about the intro. But then it gets better!! As soon as it cuts to Lex and Malice, Lex is talking about his love for Animal Farm, and I swear he says it's an "Al Gore-y..." (rather than 'allegory') - Damnit, 30 seconds in and I can't stop laughing

    • @Ayra_Is_Cool_lol
      @Ayra_Is_Cool_lol Před 2 lety

      @@mitch3357 lmaoo

    • @deadliestvice5356
      @deadliestvice5356 Před 2 lety

      It's worrying to think that you made up a word of which you didn't know the meaning.

  • @kevalnirgun2720
    @kevalnirgun2720 Před 2 lety +767

    This is like dunccan trussell on joe rogan.

  • @susanh326
    @susanh326 Před rokem +2

    Your exchange is what's been missing in my life. I've known this depth before, and lost it. Thanks for giving it back to me again.

  • @socratesrising
    @socratesrising Před 2 lety +4

    Lex is not a robot. He's a slow-moving monolith that is so good and making his guests look inward before asking the big questions. Awesome show. A poem for Michael.
    {Let Goodness Rein}
    I breathe in the good like my life-force depends on it
    In a world covered in concrete and hate
    Good is like a defiant flower rising from the cracks of our many prisons
    The eye is cut by a world full of right angles
    Nature is not natural
    And love is built on a series of well thought out conditions
    Each new acquaintance is critiqued beyond acceptability
    and promptly publicly berated for our pride’s personal amusement
    The echo of our anger is a language in song
    That only the ‘One True Choir’ can understand
    Every space is concurred by the socially righteous
    Policed and purified in their own image
    Where good is a clever insult or
    Good is our neighbor’s suffering because the empty soul cries out for their pain
    Good is the destruction of the things we hate
    Even if we only hate them because we hated ourselves first
    In a world searching for the meaning of pain
    Not Life
    Good is the spaces between the raindrops that are easily forgotten
    L E Crane

  • @SecretMarsupial
    @SecretMarsupial Před 2 lety +273

    Thumbnail made me spit out my drink. First few second had me rolling, this is going to be a great one. Thanks for this gem guys.

  • @nem447
    @nem447 Před 2 lety +415

    I love Lex. He always looks like a robot trying to learn how to feel emotions.
    And those uniforms are crack up!

    • @jlghinis
      @jlghinis Před 2 lety +10

      Nah, you should see his speech during ju-jitsu training, the expression and emotive inflection is great. Totally human 😉

    • @raznewman7406
      @raznewman7406 Před 2 lety +4

      What do you mean “looks like”?
      He is most definitely a robot 🤪😂

    • @mobilegamersunite
      @mobilegamersunite Před 2 lety +4

      His genius father built himself a robot son 🤖 😂😆😂

    • @AdamBerke
      @AdamBerke Před 2 lety +2

      CRACK UP !!!

  • @BaseDeltaZero1972
    @BaseDeltaZero1972 Před 2 lety +6

    I know very little about Michael, but his humanity shone through here.
    Well worth the time to watch (as always)..

  • @kobun6474
    @kobun6474 Před rokem +1

    this is such a fantastic dynamic, I absolutely love you two bantering

  • @stevemacbr
    @stevemacbr Před 2 lety +88

    I laughed,... when Michael laughed.
    I cried,.. when Michael cried.
    And I empathised with Lex,... when he did neither.
    .

  • @ryanbryzelak8326
    @ryanbryzelak8326 Před 2 lety +98

    Lex really pulls off the uniform, great look on him.
    Michael looks like a a supervillain in a bond movie.

  • @garywaters6356
    @garywaters6356 Před rokem +12

    Woooooooooow. Wonderful honorable podcast. Thank you.

  • @BuilderLee72
    @BuilderLee72 Před rokem

    Watched this podcast after seeing several other Lex/Michael conversations and I will be forever grateful to them both for my newfound education of totalitarianism and communism, and for the empathy and understanding I've gained as a result of their honesty and love.
    Thankyou.

  • @theaklair
    @theaklair Před 2 lety +71

    Michael being so emotional on WW2 theme and his family on that time got me too. Thanks for honesty.

  • @SebastianMikulec
    @SebastianMikulec Před 2 lety +114

    Any podcast with Lex and Michael is one I 100% want to listen to

  • @klclose1
    @klclose1 Před rokem +5

    This was so fantastic. Thank you.

  • @tiffanyclay54
    @tiffanyclay54 Před rokem +2

    I will never tire of this episode. Best opening ever.

  • @minttjulep
    @minttjulep Před 2 lety +251

    The bit about Russia and Ukraine was heart breaking. I’m Ukrainian and Polish. My great grandfather died in Ukraine when a bomb went off on some railroad tracks. So my grandpa and his little sister came to America. He died from a heart attack before I turned 5, and it’s one of my biggest regrets that I could never speak to him about his life.

    • @JK360noscope
      @JK360noscope Před 2 lety +24

      Don't worry, if he made it to America, he made it much further than he thought he would at the time.
      Be happy you were able to meet him at all.
      Polish here, this Michael guy being from Lwów is 110km from where my family is from/still are. Was a little too close to home at the beginning of this episode, had to turn it off

    • @MB-yl9hm
      @MB-yl9hm Před 2 lety +30

      I'm Polish-Ukrainian, too! Funnily enough part of my Polish side is also from Lvov like Michael, but when it was still part of Poland. When Michael started choking up talking about what his family must have been dealing with during WWII really got to me. I remember when my mother first started explaining to me my heritage and why I don't have grandparents like the other kids and all that. Learning about the horrors that your family has been through when you're a kid is hard, but so necessary. But it's frustrating too, because then you see very clearly the complete ignorance of so many people with regards to history and politics. I love America, I love being an American, but holy shit you can literally tell some people here that half your family was arrested and killed for criticizing the communist party and they'll just look at you like, "Yeah, and what about it?" People here are so spoiled here that they don't even know how good they have it.

    • @jeremyshaffer9200
      @jeremyshaffer9200 Před 2 lety +2

      My grandmother was a teenager in Germany in WW2..she told my mom she had alot of family die in bomb raids

    • @wilrsjasac
      @wilrsjasac Před 2 lety +1

      It’s not regret, just an opportunity lost. I feel the same about my great grandfather on my mother’s side

    • @gar50172
      @gar50172 Před 2 lety +2

      Good genes on your side hawt damn

  • @Xpistos510
    @Xpistos510 Před 2 lety +85

    This is the greatest thing I've ever seen. I love both Michael Fridman and Lex Malice.

  • @rosalapeligrosarojas2063

    Great show. Two champions of conversation that matters.

  • @josefgordon7712
    @josefgordon7712 Před rokem +1

    Best podcasts ever? At least in the top ten. God bless.

  • @aghostanimage
    @aghostanimage Před 2 lety +113

    This was probably the best podcast I've seen in a very long time.

  • @aisharoy3499
    @aisharoy3499 Před 2 lety +307

    Profound. I was feeling a little depressed but hearing malice talk about how he hates cynicism and there's hope ,made my day a lil brighter

    • @swarajnanda7874
      @swarajnanda7874 Před 2 lety +7

      Aye, this episode is indeed good.

    • @RenameUranus2Caelus
      @RenameUranus2Caelus Před 2 lety +11

      Agreed. Cynicism is the soul-rot that caused my depression. Malice (ironic name 🙃) is, to me, a beacon. Through him, I see a way back from the enveloping blackness of despair. Antidepressants have also helped 😁. I can do nothing but stand in gobsmacked astonishment, and respect what a paragon he remains after *years* of abusive criticism. 👏👊
      These two, where it counts, are beautiful people.

    • @tsoliot5913
      @tsoliot5913 Před 2 lety +3

      @@RenameUranus2Caelus well done man. I hope you're still making progress. These two stoics are wonderful polarities, and Malice has something properly understood.

    • @godsofohio6734
      @godsofohio6734 Před 2 lety

      @@stanleysmooth so has optimism

    • @logicalconceptofficial
      @logicalconceptofficial Před rokem

      @@RenameUranus2Caelus Logic is the light in the darkness and will lead you away from despair, but only if you faithfully reckon (reason properly and honestly) with this one true God.

  • @brainseagle
    @brainseagle Před rokem

    Thank you both for your honesty.Lex I find your conversations well worth the time and attention they require.

  • @bilderberg2418
    @bilderberg2418 Před rokem +2

    This is an amazing episode,thank you Lex and Michael.

  • @Cartersvillain
    @Cartersvillain Před 2 lety +39

    "He is one of my closest friends; we've never met."
    As someone who grew up on the forums this statement hit so hard.

  • @teabreezy9522
    @teabreezy9522 Před 2 lety +208

    Malice: "Can I curse?"
    Fridman: "... Fuck yes"

    • @thes7450
      @thes7450 Před 2 lety +2

      Haha

    • @Cartersvillain
      @Cartersvillain Před 2 lety +7

      Some slight latency on that one - don't worry we have our engineers working on it

  • @fancyshmancy
    @fancyshmancy Před rokem

    Haven't watched this one in awhile. Its one of those you learn something new each time

  • @vembdev
    @vembdev Před rokem +2

    So many great things to learn with these podcasts

  • @rileyjoseph3488
    @rileyjoseph3488 Před 2 lety +79

    You two always have the most human conversations and that’s why I love them.

    • @69brazzo
      @69brazzo Před 2 lety +1

      The deconstruction of biases in this convo is off the hook!

    • @dirtypure2023
      @dirtypure2023 Před 2 lety +1

      Is there such thing as... non-human.. conversations?

    • @Aminal92
      @Aminal92 Před 2 lety

      That’s ironic considering Lex is a robot.

    • @Reblwitoutacause
      @Reblwitoutacause Před 2 lety +2

      “A unrelenting Anarchist and a cold Robot walk into a bar...”
      Turns out the punchline is something about them being wonderful friends and inspiring personalities; Truly, two good men worth looking up to.

  • @jalbers3150
    @jalbers3150 Před 2 lety +347

    Lex: that was a joke michael
    Michael: it was a failed joke
    lmaoooo

  • @dulcemartinez8972
    @dulcemartinez8972 Před 9 měsíci

    Watching this interview is a reminder of how much we need to keep one-on-one conversations. Everybody is in pain, everybody has the right to be happy. From a very different culture, this episode has opened my eyes to such a different perspective. Respect!

  • @rufusray
    @rufusray Před 6 měsíci

    I love watching the episodes with michael back to back, you guys rock together

  • @UsDiYoNa
    @UsDiYoNa Před 2 lety +139

    From a guy who rarely laughs, that intro fuckin’ got me 😂

    • @dusanjevtic1961
      @dusanjevtic1961 Před 2 lety

      Dude same i don't laugh when i am alone(listening to podcasts etc) but the ''I was leaking motor oil'' part i was laughing for 2 min strait.

  • @ignacius8466
    @ignacius8466 Před 2 lety +259

    Oh jesus, the first 5 seconds and I'm dying of laughter.

    • @undefinedvariable8085
      @undefinedvariable8085 Před 2 lety +5

      I started at the thumbnail. Probably the only man that can get Lex out of a suit.

    • @lukecpo
      @lukecpo Před 2 lety +2

      Imagine the scene in the dressing room.😅

  • @fidesedquivide3486
    @fidesedquivide3486 Před rokem +1

    One of the best interviews. Love you both.

  • @beenright5115
    @beenright5115 Před rokem +1

    THIS is why some of these interviews have to be watched not just listened to

  • @blottoarregato8935
    @blottoarregato8935 Před 2 lety +43

    Thank you Michael and Lex, for "soldiering" through some pretty tough moments in this podcast. It had depth, beauty, meaning, eternity.

  • @Tylerius87
    @Tylerius87 Před 2 lety +186

    "the fucking robot is the one that gets me to cry wtf is going on" thats exactly how i felt at the end of terminator 2 when i was 10 years old.

    • @cosmicmuffet1053
      @cosmicmuffet1053 Před 2 lety +9

      I was going to make a crying joke, but yours was better.

    • @vincentvega8337
      @vincentvega8337 Před 2 lety +4

      Undefeated comment lol

    • @k.u.m.o.r
      @k.u.m.o.r Před 2 lety +5

      You should have seen my 10 years old daughter's face the moment she realised that Arnie also has to die. She never cried so badly, not when she was in pain or anything. Best movie ever

    • @mitchmarvinmartian
      @mitchmarvinmartian Před 2 lety +8

      Interesting fact. Arnie kills no one in that movie. If your a kid in the 90's and you see all the 'good guys' killing people left and right then you go through a whole movie with one hero deliberately not, because of a kids command, kinda leaves that capital H Hero impression on you.

    • @galihad1980
      @galihad1980 Před 2 lety +3

      My 10 yo son cried like a baby when Arnie was saying goodbye. 🤣

  • @MisSkeeto
    @MisSkeeto Před rokem +3

    I love how playful you two are. It's obvious you are both having fun which makes it fun to listen to. Thank you!

  • @Non3MA
    @Non3MA Před rokem

    Thank you both - always incredibly thought provoking! Sending appreciation, admiration, peace and love. ☮🥰

  • @loganculver9058
    @loganculver9058 Před 2 lety +90

    Had to pause 15 seconds into this just to regain my composure

    • @bradm8529
      @bradm8529 Před 2 lety +2

      Hahaha, I think that’s everyone here.

  • @pugetsoundfarmer
    @pugetsoundfarmer Před 2 lety +72

    Very intense, emotional, informative conversation. Another reminder how important and essential it is to preserve our freedoms and liberties. We seem to be living in a very pivotal moment and i hope we can preserve what the previous generations gave life and limb to protect.

    • @chrishenderson420
      @chrishenderson420 Před 2 lety

      Couldn't of said it any better.

    • @chiefslinginbeef3641
      @chiefslinginbeef3641 Před 2 lety +2

      I hope so....I moved south and brought my family last summer. I hope we can at least turn the ship a little bit, it's looking rough coming from a blue state. It's great now and you really appreciate the difference in freedom. I never thought it was that different but it's very noticable between the states.

  • @dasgunt2549
    @dasgunt2549 Před rokem

    Awesome conversation - happy, sad, informative, inspiring!! ❤❤

  • @anthonyhewitt9397
    @anthonyhewitt9397 Před 2 lety +1

    I pass up every intro of lex's but I'm glad I seen this one.

  • @joshuastephenward5316
    @joshuastephenward5316 Před 2 lety +154

    Maybe it's just me but seeing Malice in tears talking about his grandma makes his words freakin' sobering.

    • @tunnelsloth5948
      @tunnelsloth5948 Před 2 lety +7

      Yeah, I teared up during that part. When Yeonmi said Michael truly cared about the North Korean people during her podcast episode, I certainly believed her, but wondered how one can really tell. Now that I've seen this, I can unmistakably tell that he sincerely empathizes with their suffering and the experience of the gruesome crimes against their humanity to an extent most other Americans don't (currently) seem to.

    • @csglazing6380
      @csglazing6380 Před 2 lety +6

      Some leftist that think they have it hard because of WORDS need to watch that!!!!!!

    • @olekkuvppl
      @olekkuvppl Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah shame that he forgot to mention that Red Army invaded Lvov that supposedly his grandmother lived in just 2 years prior in 1939

  • @brettfromla4055
    @brettfromla4055 Před 2 lety +61

    “Thank God, this isn’t your life.” - Michael. That would be a great name for a book on totalitarianism.

  • @leeluo5228
    @leeluo5228 Před rokem

    I love your conversations/podcasts. Stay safe.

  • @sarahrenay341
    @sarahrenay341 Před rokem +1

    I've always liked Michael and enjoyed listening to him as a guest on various podcasts, even certain ones that I've went back and listened to again over the years, but listening to this podcast- I truly fell in love. I'm converted. and I will probably be listening to his podcast exclusively for the next week. What an amazing human being. We don't deserve it, but we certainly need more people like him in this world. 🙏

  • @heidi.k252
    @heidi.k252 Před 2 lety +91

    I've learned so much from Michael Malice. He's keeping white pilled.

    • @heidi.k252
      @heidi.k252 Před 2 lety +30

      @@mabaker Thankfully I appreciate an edgy smartass.

    • @eeuphoria9077
      @eeuphoria9077 Před 2 lety

      @@mabaker way too sad. Saw his video with valuetainment? Malice was being a smartass with the facial expressions of knowing it all. How do people love being a anarchist? This guy is confused trying to be "different" .

    • @chacdogful
      @chacdogful Před 2 lety +1

      @@eeuphoria9077 yuuupppp I just watch him on other people’s podcasts’. He basically liberal from what I’ve seen. I’m sure he’s talked crazy anarchy shit elsewhere, but I don’t subscribe to it.

  • @TheTibbott
    @TheTibbott Před 2 lety +29

    Watch how Lex and his poetic self can be so quiet and accepting, allowing Michael his emotion, no self-consciousness or embarrassment. Two fellow countrymen who understand something profoundly incomprehensible to many of us. Thank you for allowing me into this conversation.
    🙏

  • @jongabrielminney2440
    @jongabrielminney2440 Před rokem +1

    This episode looks like young Lex Friedman interviewing old future Lex Friedman

  • @victorsavage4638
    @victorsavage4638 Před rokem

    thank you so much for this conversation it gives real hope

  • @SirEmoSushi
    @SirEmoSushi Před 2 lety +103

    I've never seen Michael this emotional. This was raw.

    • @krisersn3092
      @krisersn3092 Před 2 lety

      Hes on cocaine from his book money

    • @Demontoastslayer
      @Demontoastslayer Před 2 lety +8

      @@krisersn3092 Yeah hes totally coked up in a 2.5 hour interview, you must not know shit about drugs to think that

    • @ilovetheatf
      @ilovetheatf Před 2 lety +3

      @@Demontoastslayer your right, Michael is obviously bumping hard on ketamine.

    • @josephcohen9480
      @josephcohen9480 Před 2 lety

      He is so happy he finally learned how to drive. He a Texas boi now!

    • @Valkyrie1941
      @Valkyrie1941 Před 2 lety

      He just try to be hard ball troll on twitter and on his channel. But in reality he's just a pusy ..

  • @graysonhetherington
    @graysonhetherington Před 2 lety +352

    “It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners” 7:18
    Wow.

    • @oldhouseredux7733
      @oldhouseredux7733 Před 2 lety +2

      Seriously great.

    • @busfahrer09
      @busfahrer09 Před 2 lety +11

      But what's wrong with being on the side of the executioners when you're facing communists and cultural-marxists?

    • @busfahrer09
      @busfahrer09 Před 2 lety +8

      @@ffnovice7 'Communism' is a defined term. You can't just start another blame game and call people NaZiS first and then you'll call them communists as it fits your agenda. I'm no future boomer, I'm 24 and just hate communists and have no problem minecrafting them.

    • @DanielGomez-qg8vd
      @DanielGomez-qg8vd Před 2 lety +7

      @@busfahrer09 you really don't understand why it's wrong to execute communists for being communists?

    • @yescommunitiesnorules9623
      @yescommunitiesnorules9623 Před 2 lety +9

      @@DanielGomez-qg8vdIts not wrong...

  • @iamatlantis1
    @iamatlantis1 Před rokem +1

    That was a spot on impression at the beginning. Deserved more recognition

  • @adamdonovan4071
    @adamdonovan4071 Před rokem +18

    Camus’ The Plague is one of my favorite books of all time.
    Dark, but utterly uplifting and inspiring as the story unfolds.

    • @mr.goldfish7473
      @mr.goldfish7473 Před rokem +1

      I just got it because of this comment. I better enjoy it.

    • @adamdonovan4071
      @adamdonovan4071 Před rokem

      @@mr.goldfish7473 I hope you do. Post here when you finish it and let me know.

    • @lahazard
      @lahazard Před rokem +1

      First time I read this I was 13 years old. I was at the grocery store with my mom and started reading it from the paperback rack they had. She had reservations, but agree to buy it for me. This was 1964. I did not understand much of anything at that time, but still couldn't put it down, and the desire to better understand what I had just read started me down an entirely different road than I was already on. It was a watershed book for me. I'm 72 now. Still don't think my understanding is a whole lot improved. This discussion with Lex and Michael, and your comment, have it back on my current "To Be Read" pile.

    • @adamdonovan4071
      @adamdonovan4071 Před rokem

      @@lahazard
      I’m glad that I could rekindle a memory of yours and contribute in some small way to your life experience.
      It really is a great book. My tip would be when you go back to read it again, as you are reading think about who the narrator is.
      If you do make it back to reread the book, let me know your thoughts. We can have a book club in the comment section!
      Have a great day.

  • @terryeaster1
    @terryeaster1 Před 2 lety +34

    37 minutes in and this is not the podcast I expected. This is incredible on another level. Thank you guys

  • @NathanCassidy721
    @NathanCassidy721 Před 2 lety +205

    This started out funny, then it got sad.
    Talk about emotional whiplash.

  • @saffyjanes8875
    @saffyjanes8875 Před 2 lety +10

    I was immobilized my cynicism for years. Like literally spent maybe 5 years in bed for weeks on end. The last few months I have found the new right and white pill and I have had a paradigm shift in my thinking(along with 3 yrs of therapy). I value reality and truth and am thriving and remembered how silly I am and the fun I have doing everything now. Both of you have had a contributory effect to my new view of life and this reality.

  • @lukeanderson6844
    @lukeanderson6844 Před rokem +1

    Few things have brought me as much joy lately as Michael malice as the MIB speaking in Lex's dull staccato intro voice. Both of you, thanks for being you

  • @myklenero
    @myklenero Před 2 lety +52

    Gotta admit, Michael is definitely one of my favorite of the repeat guests. Intro was spot on 😭

  • @robertfrick6916
    @robertfrick6916 Před 2 lety +34

    This was easily the most intellectually stimulating, as well as entertaining, interviews I’ve listened to in long, long time. Enjoyed it thoroughly.

  • @_middleside
    @_middleside Před 2 lety

    Lovely conversation. So invigorating. Great cap off with the Kerouac quote.