Which harp do you prefer? Ogden vs Jolie Hybrid comparison

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  • čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
  • Let's train our ears to hear the difference between harps!! 😀🎶👂🏻📝 Which harp do you prefer for each song? What do YOU think the strengths of each harps is, and do you agree with my opinions? 🤓
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Komentáře • 151

  • @ancientspiritmusic
    @ancientspiritmusic Před rokem +18

    Both harps sound great, and each has its own distinct sound and feel. I prefer the sound of the Ogden, mainly for its warmth and fullness of sound.

  • @laurel9246
    @laurel9246 Před rokem +9

    I LOVE the Jolie Hybrid! It sounds like the fairies are singing. 🧚

  • @morrigan9152
    @morrigan9152 Před rokem +8

    Probably the best editted video I have seen that demonstrates difference in sound - well done & thank you!

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem +1

      That’s wonderful to hear! I have a great team of editors working with me, so the editing is WAY better than I would do on my own. And I did my best to plan the video based on the best elements about other comparison videos I could find. Glad you liked it! 😄👍🏻
      Question: do you think it would be helpful / interesting to see a comparison between any of my other harps? Some people have been asking me to play the same snippets on all my harps back to back. I could do that, but I’m not sure what it would accomplish apart from being interesting 🤔

  • @edhotchkin5938
    @edhotchkin5938 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Between these two harps, I hear the greatest difference is in the lower strings......the lower the note you play, the greater the difference I hear. The one on 'my' right sounds like nylon, and the Ogden sounds like wire-wound strings, but I suspect the quality of the soundbox plays into the difference as a secondary factor, too. My opinion is so strong that I CAN'T believe it's JUST a matter of taste. The Ogden is of a superior sound quality. You just make them both sound so good because of your talent and skill on the instrument, so the difference is less pronounced (how's that for a social recovery?}. :)

  • @Jude300c
    @Jude300c Před rokem +12

    Its amazing how you make a few minutes feel like an hour! I really like the Ogden. Its warm and the sustain is brief which could be good for a few of the impromptus i do. But the Jolie has a nice brightness that could be good for very slowly healing pieces that are played.

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem +6

      Nice analysis! I used to highly value the warm mellow sound because I accompanied my singing a lot and I have a gentle warm voice and have always been drawn to warmer sounding instruments, but now I’m playing more with other instruments over speaker systems, and the Jolie works MUCH better for me in those scenarios! It cuts through and is easier to amplify because of the clarity etc. It also sounds nice with my voice, just different 😊

  • @abigailsamson81
    @abigailsamson81 Před měsícem

    I think the longer sustain on the Jolie harp makes it so dreamy and otherworldly. For me, even though the Ogden suits more classical styles, it’s hard to pass up that magical sound so the Jolie wins for me!! I love your harp comparison videos with all your little notes added and the side by side passages of different styles!!!!

  • @sabinekurz-sherman9750
    @sabinekurz-sherman9750 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The angelic sound of the Jolie harp is my favorite❤

  • @karissathatcher9206
    @karissathatcher9206 Před rokem +9

    They both sound lovely! It's hard to choose a preference... I do really like the brightness and sustain from the Jolie, but I also love the mellowness from the Ogden. I guess there's only one solution... I need to buy more harps!! :D

  • @charpnatl
    @charpnatl Před rokem +2

    This is one of the best comparison videos I’ve ever seen.

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      I’m glad you liked it so much, thanks! 😃😃 What about the video made it so good, in your opinion? I’m always trying to improve, so it’s helpful to know what I’m doing well so I can keep doing that 😅

  • @krisztinahunyadi122
    @krisztinahunyadi122 Před rokem +3

    Thanks for the comparison. The Jolie is right for a therapeutic use with its fairy magical sound.

  • @DanielJenkins92
    @DanielJenkins92 Před rokem +6

    This video definitely makes me want to buy the Jolie Hybrid harp and learn. What a beautiful instrument. Played so well and such a nice sound. Fantastic teacher as well.

  • @rawsonpiano
    @rawsonpiano Před 10 měsíci +1

    Piano tuners perspective: I think that the Jolie is sonically more pleasing as it has a clearer overtone series. On some harpsichords there is a Buffant setting wherein you pull a lever and it pushes a mute rail against the strings to shorten the sustain. You can test if this would work by temporarily placing some cotton balls between the strings. If this provides the effect you want, then you can glue a set of cotton balls onto a strip of wood to quickly apply or remove the effect on all strings, or just certain sections. Violinists sometimes use a rubber mute on the back side of the bridge.

  • @jwbookout
    @jwbookout Před 4 měsíci

    Wow what a great example of instrument uniqueness. The clarity of the Ogden and the resonance of the Jolie are very audible in the recordings. I'm not a harpist, but I do enjoy learning about the individual qualities of different instruments.

  • @lmrhea
    @lmrhea Před rokem +1

    I love the reverb in the Jolie.

  • @moirbasso7051
    @moirbasso7051 Před rokem +1

    As always, your playing is illuminating.

  • @2MulesHomestead
    @2MulesHomestead Před rokem +2

    I can definitely hear the difference and can tell how each one would suit a different mood and purpose. They’re both gorgeous! You do a nice job comparing them. It makes me want to get the Jolie Hybrid but I just got the Ogden as my first harp, so no new harp purchases for now.

  • @ShelleyE
    @ShelleyE Před rokem +4

    Two very lovely harps! Listening on an iPad speaker doesn’t do sound the justice! So I sent back and relistened with a headset. Now they’re even nicer! To me the Ogden had broader sound for each note, while the Jolie had more crisp notes. Ogden would mesh with an orchestra and Jolie would cut through in a Celtic band. Thanks for doing this comparison!

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem +2

      That’s a nice summary! 😊 The Jolie also works more easily with contemporary type music in a band setting (like when I play in worship band at church) because of the clarity etc, it’s much easier to mix.

  • @KathyLoweHarpist
    @KathyLoweHarpist Před rokem +2

    As many others have said, they both sound lovely. I'm leaning overall to the sound of the Ogden, but since I play a Triplett Catalina that has a very warm, resonant sound, that's no surprise. What I really enjoyed most about this video was hearing you play portions of so many pieces that highlighted your technique. It's wonderful listening to you play ANY harp! 🎶

  • @daleencomer3669
    @daleencomer3669 Před rokem +2

    I like the brighter sound of the Jolie, as well as the longer sustain. My grand piano also has a very bright tone and a wonderful, big bass sound, so maybe I am just more used to that sort of sound.

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      Yes that’s interesting how we can be drawn to a certain type of sound! 😄

  • @paradox9369
    @paradox9369 Před rokem +2

    In currently in market for purchasing a harp (actually, my first harp...) and not gonna lie, it can get a bit overwhelming considering how different each harp is! Even among the same line-up!
    You underlined the differences of these both very well. I thought I would lean in more towards the Ogden, but then the Jolie won me over. I guess it got extra points from the fact that faster passages come way easier on it... I'll have to consider that when deciding on my harp.
    Thank you lots! Maybe in the future you'll be able to perhaps present more harp models? Especially lesser known brands?

    • @KevinSmutsMusic
      @KevinSmutsMusic Před rokem +3

      I would also love to see more comparison videos like this!!

  • @connieennis6556
    @connieennis6556 Před rokem +1

    Wow! You really showed the difference between the two harps! I think it depends on the piece that is being played. I liked some pieces better on the Ogden, but some better on the Jolie! I have a Salvi Mia so it is fun to think of the comparison. I am still learning so much about harp. Thank you Christy-lyn for all your educational videos! I have learned so much from you!

  • @imaharper
    @imaharper Před rokem +1

    These harps sound wonderful and I can understand how difficult it would be to part with either of them. Celtic music does sound nicer on the Jolie but if I had to choose one, it would be the Ogden. Mellow wins over me any time. Thanks for sharing both of these harps in the split video.

  • @CarolineWeharp
    @CarolineWeharp Před rokem +2

    Great to hear the comparison between your harps..the Jolie Hybrid has that wow sound that gives a fuller quality in my view, also your fingers look more relaxed with the ease of tension.

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem +1

      Yes I’m enjoying not having to work so hard! But playing on a harp with such high tension has forced me to learn solid technique that can support me, and thankfully I have never had any pain or injury, despite such high tension strings 😅 In my opinion it’s higher tension than my pedal harp!

    • @CarolineWeharp
      @CarolineWeharp Před rokem

      That’s interesting about the tension being higher than your pedal harp.

  • @nevertoolatetolearnmusic

    Best video comparison ever……

  • @omarkassem8191
    @omarkassem8191 Před rokem

    As much as harps cost it is great to see videos like this.

  • @jimbuxton2187
    @jimbuxton2187 Před 4 měsíci

    Perfect video with side by side comparisons....the Jolie sounds wonderful.

  • @TrinityDivineMozart
    @TrinityDivineMozart Před rokem

    Both of the harps are quite spiritual and wonderful to play and singing songs and hymns. 😊🙏 🎼

  • @Jerfish1
    @Jerfish1 Před rokem

    really great side by side (literally with the video). They both certainly have their merits, it's a matter of the righ tool for the job, or the sound for the song!

  • @cubeadventurer8143
    @cubeadventurer8143 Před 7 měsíci

    Such an excellent production. Thanks for offering this level of professionalism and joy with us!! I prefer the warmth of the Ogden. The open brightness is great but not so much for the type of music I would like to play. A harp is seriously in my future. Thanks

  • @elb19
    @elb19 Před 9 měsíci

    I love the Jolie harp, I absolutely love the brighter sound and look of it, also did you saw all the wonderful colours you could have for that yaps. The only difficulties is it’s price 😅, a little to much for me… but if I could… that be the one in vibrant purple n’a with the LED too. Wonderful instrument.

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před 9 měsíci

      Yes I saw all the fun colours, I love it!! But for me, I always prefer the natural wood colours 😍

  • @mitziemcelhaney1742
    @mitziemcelhaney1742 Před rokem

    Dreaming of the Jolie now! Fantastic comparison video, thank you! 😬💸💸

  • @SharonCullenArt
    @SharonCullenArt Před rokem

    I love the Jolie sound. So much that I had bought one about a year and a half ago. I do love the clarity and spark lines as well. I do agree that it can get a bit noisy with sustained sound with certain songs. Nice video. It was good to see the comparison.

  • @flamingoharper
    @flamingoharper Před rokem

    Oh. My. Goodness!!!! This answers one of my biggest questions with harp playing!!!! I love your videos as always, thank you so much for taking the time to make such helpful, beautiful and informative content and courses. When I took your Canon in D course and then Fur Elise, I didn’t understand why my Dusty Strings Crescendo 34 was so buzzy and I had a hard time keeping it from sounding “muddy” (plus I’m still working on improving my confidence in placing so I don’t buzz!) but I didn’t realize how different harps have a different amount of sustain!!! My harp has a ton more sustain in the lower register than your lovely Ogden and it sounds so much more like the also lovely Jolie!!! This is so helpful to know. That settles it, I need more than one harp!! 😁 Different voices for different styles. ❤

  • @jeannieb.
    @jeannieb. Před rokem

    Wow! This was a fantastic comparison of the two harps Chrysty-Lyn! I was just looking at Ogdens because they are so beautiful, but now listening to the Jolie, I think I may eventually get one of those because I love the sparkly, bright sound...and I eventually would love to play some upbeat Celtic music once I get there. I'm just a beginner (taking your courses), and loving it! You are a wonderful teacher and make learning the harp SO enjoyable! Thank you Chrysty-Lyn!!❤

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem +1

      Thanks Jeannie, I’m glad this video was helpful for you, and especially pleased that you’re enjoying my courses!! 😃😃🎉 My big aim is for the courses to make it easy and fun for people to learn, so it’s really nice to hear that it’s working for you, yay! 🙌🏻🤩

  • @The1PiloOface
    @The1PiloOface Před rokem +2

    I love them both. Looking at comparision videos such as yours is really helpfull. I am only one year into studying the harp and about to buy my first one. When I started, I was sure I prefered a mellowed sound as the Ogden, but as I progressed and realised I prefer to play celtic music, I may need a harp with a clearer sound. For the moment, I think I'll go for a harp as the Jolie Hybrid. Or maybe something in between if I can find it.
    Thanks for the video !

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem +2

      I’ve always preferred mellower sounds (I chose soft and mellow instruments when I bought my violin and piano) which is why I went for the Ogden - and enjoyed it, but for some types of music and in some settings (eg amplified in my church band etc), it really wasn’t helping me. And on top of that it was so difficult to carry around! So I’ve found the Jolie Hybrid such a revolution for me, and I’ve found I really enjoy the sound too 😄

    • @The1PiloOface
      @The1PiloOface Před rokem

      Update : I bought a Camac Melusine. I just fell in love with the richness of the low notes. It won't stop me to try a variety of registers, but it will certainly be the perfect companion to explore my breton roots !

  • @johnsalamone3152
    @johnsalamone3152 Před rokem +1

    Both are lovely. I think it does depend on what you are playing. Thank you for this. ❤

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem +1

      That’s true, some songs sound good with different harps, so it depends on what type of music you’re playing more (and which sound you prefer). I’m enjoying the clear sound of the Jolie Hybrid and the power it gives me to make such a big sound, with slightly less effort 😅 It feels very different to play, and I’m particularly enjoying the feeling of playing the Jolie at the moment 👌🏻

  • @eannemarieweber5285
    @eannemarieweber5285 Před rokem

    I keep looking for a Ogden as i love that deep warm sound, but now that Jolie i love how it carries out the sound alittle longer! They are both beautiful and sound beautiful!!!

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem +1

      Yes there are so many different aspects to look at when choosing a harp! It’s really great if you have the opportunity to play a few different harps, because it helps to get the feeling of it, and see which one feels like it suits you and the music you like to play 😊

  • @Denise-SA
    @Denise-SA Před rokem

    Superb! Excellent comparisons, Christy-Lyn, and so beautifully presented. Thank you so much! (I really like both harps, again, for different purposes.)

  • @Maris-W
    @Maris-W Před rokem

    That was so interesting. At first I didn't see much of a difference, but as you got into the songs, I began to understand what you were meaning about the sustain, or warm vs. bright. I decided for me, I preferred the Jolie, but it is a hard choice. I do prefer celtic music, which you mentioned was easier to play on the Jolie, thus helped make my final choice.

  • @brittneylamar9864
    @brittneylamar9864 Před rokem

    I have the Salvi Gaia, bit Im loving the Celtic Harp sound! Your notes throughout the video really helped me hear the differences!

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      I’m glad my little comments helped! 😄 I thought it would be nice to give some tips and guidance, and add some interesting information 🤗👍🏻

  • @alynawatersmusic
    @alynawatersmusic Před rokem

    At first I thought I was going to like the Ogden better but the Jolie Hybrid definitely won me over.

  • @winterfirepodcast
    @winterfirepodcast Před rokem

    Excellent comparison and way to show the kinds of pieces they are best suited for!

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem +1

      I’m glad you enjoyed it! 😃 It was fun making this video.

  • @cackleberrycottage2340
    @cackleberrycottage2340 Před rokem +1

    I really like the sound of the Jolie Hybrid. I do have a small pedal harp, which I love the sound of, but it would be nice to have a smaller, lighter celtic type harp to take out. I have fibromyalgia, so I am unable to take my pedal harp out to play anywhere as it causes me too much pain to move it. Maybe someday I will have the money for one of these harps. Nice to know they sound so good.

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      Ooh a small pedal harp is really fun! But it sounds like a more portable harp would open up some doors for you, that would be nice. And it’s great that the string tension is a little lower which might be helpful when you’re in pain ❤️

    • @cackleberrycottage2340
      @cackleberrycottage2340 Před rokem

      @@LearningtheHarp Exactly.. I have a friend I play with now but I can never take my harp to her house or out to play anywhere. Maybe someday....

  • @TheKaniss
    @TheKaniss Před 10 měsíci

    For me, i love the longer sustain

  • @musicalmarion
    @musicalmarion Před rokem

    I so prerfer the warm tone of the gut strings, but as a vegetarian I opted for Nylon strings (I have a Dusty Strings Ravenna 34) and I hear they can last a little longer too. Christy Lyn you're so right though, because the style of the music dictates which is preferable. Lovely to hear both of your beautiful instruments, and they both have a super tone.❤🎵🌼

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      Yes nylon strings definitely break less frequently which is a plus, and the string tension is usually higher on gut string harps, which adds to the phenomenon!
      If you prefer the warmer sound and you want to look for another harp in the future, you will find that there is also a lot of variation in the sound of nylon string harps - some are warmer than others 😊👍🏻

  • @TheMamamusikerin
    @TheMamamusikerin Před rokem

    I love the sound of both harps, but chose the Jolie for the brighter tone, plus I felt I had more control over the dynamic range with the nylon and slightly lighter tension. ALSO, I learned that I don’t like the feel of gut strings…small but critical detail!

  • @naturewatcher7596
    @naturewatcher7596 Před rokem

    Very nice comparison video. All harps sound beautiful in your skillful hands. Also all of them are out of price range of the beginner - for professional harpists only.

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      Yes you’re right these harps aren’t intended to be low cost options, but you might be surprised that some people are able to buy really beautiful harps when they get started - it depends on the budget of the person learning, and how long they’ve been saving up for this dream 🤗

  • @TaisiaDanilova
    @TaisiaDanilova Před rokem

    I love both of them

  • @lyndavonkanel8603
    @lyndavonkanel8603 Před rokem

    I told you a few years ago that I have an Ogden, so I'm biased. I love its sound! Listening to both, as open minded as I can manage, I like it better than the Jolie, which does sound lovely.

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      That’s wonderful, it’s so good to be happy with the harp you already have! And bonus, that’s always the cheapest harp 😋😆

  • @Jane-dm6ng
    @Jane-dm6ng Před rokem

    I watched this video comparison about 4 or 5 times. The Jolie is louder with a longer sustain, crisper sound. Sounds nice but I think i prefer my Ogden. I do like both of them though 😊.

  • @kathilisi3019
    @kathilisi3019 Před rokem

    I liked these comparisons! Interesting how different styles fit different harps. I'd love to hear a direct comparison of DHC's New Blues!

  • @sateeshkumartippagari
    @sateeshkumartippagari Před 3 měsíci

    Jolie

  • @SweetAncientMelody
    @SweetAncientMelody Před 6 měsíci

    Jolie!!

  • @orionspero560
    @orionspero560 Před 5 měsíci

    The color of the ogden is almost perfect. By which I mean sound color not wood color.

  • @learningtheleverharp
    @learningtheleverharp Před rokem +4

    😮this is a really fun video. I like the format. It looks like you had a lot of fun playing the harps. The Ogden reminds me of a cello. The Jolie hybrid reminds me of a violin. 😂 I can see how they are both useful.

  • @connieLo87365
    @connieLo87365 Před rokem

    Personally the sound over the video is same to me. I don’t care for the feel of the gut or how easy it is to break for such a tiny difference. Your new harp sounds awesome

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      That’s interesting that it sounds that same to you. Were you listening on headphones or just on phone speakers? 😊

    • @connieLo87365
      @connieLo87365 Před rokem

      @@LearningtheHarp just my phone speaker. It may sound different through the computer. I do have a very good ear for tones

    • @connieLo87365
      @connieLo87365 Před rokem

      @@LearningtheHarp I could hear the differences in the harps brightness but the strings not really

  • @eloisebaker1125
    @eloisebaker1125 Před rokem

    I think i like the ogden better when you just pluck the strings, but when you olay longer i like the other one better, the sustain is beautiful

  • @organist1982
    @organist1982 Před rokem

    Both are so lovely! However, "The River Flows In You" really shows how superior the Camac levers are to the L&H Performance levers as far as tone preservation. I notice the same thing between my L&H lever harps (Prelude 40 and Troub V) versus my Dusty Strings Ravenna 34 with Camac levers.

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      That’s very interesting, I hadn’t noticed that! I’m so used to the actual feel of the L&H levers under my fingers when I change a lever up and down that at first I didn’t enjoy the difference, but I’m sure I’ll get used to it! Also the levers on my Jolie Hybrid are a little tight for quick lever changes right now, but apparently they loosen up over time 😊👍🏻

  • @sprinklechesed
    @sprinklechesed Před 10 měsíci

    The wood type will make a difference in how a harp sounds too. While I loved the way a walnut wood harp looked (with that gorgeous dark wood,) I found I preferred the brighter sounds of maple and cherry harps to a morose sounding walnut harp. But if one plays a lot of music in minor keys, maybe a walnut harp would be preferable.

  • @lynnzeng53
    @lynnzeng53 Před rokem +1

    I may buy this light weighted harp if I saw your video earlier. What colour is your jolie harp, it doesn’t look like the original dark colour showed on the website, or other upgraded vivid colour. It looks beautiful and sounds great.

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem +2

      Mine is a natural curly maple, with an extra maple veneer covering up the stripes from the carbon fiber, and the birch soundboard stained to match the maple. If anyone is interested in getting the same, you can ask Music Makers after you’ve placed your order 😊

  • @jenniferjamieson3553
    @jenniferjamieson3553 Před rokem

    The upper registers are similar, but the Ogden has a clearer tone in the lower and middle registers. If I had to choose one, it would be the Ogden.

  • @leninnavarrete2502
    @leninnavarrete2502 Před 10 měsíci

    ❤👍🌟😲Nice sound Hybrid...!😇 Saludos Quito 🇪🇨🤠🌷

  • @Tinykniter
    @Tinykniter Před rokem

    Great video! Glad I bought a Jolie kit - you’ve motivated me to finish it 😂

  • @user-pe9gz8si8k
    @user-pe9gz8si8k Před rokem

    I like the roundness of the Ogden but it’s a little quiet on the lower end. The Joliet sounds better on the lower end but for me the higher strings lose something. maybe fullness of tone. Congrats on your new acquisition.

  • @Sursie_Metzger
    @Sursie_Metzger Před rokem

    You can definitely hear the age of the Ogden compared to Jolie which has a much lighter sound. The Ogden has had more time to settle into itself so it will be interesting to hear how the Jolie slowly changes in sound as it ages.

  • @taracarolin9082
    @taracarolin9082 Před rokem

    You can't lose with either, but in the end the resonance of the Ogden wins me over. Too much sparkle can begin to sound tinny to me.

  • @nancybeal163
    @nancybeal163 Před rokem

    well, this definitively answers the question of "do I need more than one harp" with a resounding Yes. I liked the bass on the Ogden and the upper register on the Jolie. Although I will admit about 2 minutes in, I noticed your comments and tried not to be influenced by you :)

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      It’s amazing to have more harps if you can! 😍 Haha, you could cover up my comments and concentrate just on listening, that’s a good idea! 👂🏻🎶

    • @kathilisi3019
      @kathilisi3019 Před rokem

      I agree, I also liked the bass of the Ogden and the high register of the Jolie! It would be really cool to hear an actual duet of the two harps!

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      That's interesting, because I've found that when performing (especially when amplified), the Ogden's bass is quite muddy which has been frustrating. That's a fun suggestion, Katharina!

    • @kathilisi3019
      @kathilisi3019 Před rokem

      @@LearningtheHarp I could tell that the Jolie had a "clearer" sound in the bass, but there's also kind of a metallic edge to the tone, where the Ogden's tone is warmer. I wonder what you'd think of the Drake, listening to these two harps I think it's kind of in between the two! Less sustain than the Jolie, but lighter tension than the Ogden.

  • @mandarinlearner
    @mandarinlearner Před 27 dny

    You're lucky to have a good sounding Ogden

  • @lovelyresidor5388
    @lovelyresidor5388 Před rokem

    I like both sounds, yet I'll go by Jolie for the extra plus of the weight.

  • @2dbuy
    @2dbuy Před rokem

    I love sunshiney day, I see what you mean by it sounding "brighter"

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      😃🙌🏻 Sometimes it’s hard to put words to these things!

    • @2dbuy
      @2dbuy Před rokem

      ​@@LearningtheHarpI think you chose the right word, i don't think i could describe it better.

  • @shannonsharpstory
    @shannonsharpstory Před rokem

    A great comparison! I like the Jolie for all of the songs except those two faster classical songs. You are right that the longer sustain in the Jolie muddies the song. I'm wondering what would happen if you switched the string type on each harp (if this won't injure the harp). Is the difference the harp or the type of strings? Just wondering... 🤔

  • @gunpeterson4361
    @gunpeterson4361 Před rokem

    ♥️Amazing beautiful 🥰

  • @CzechJamie
    @CzechJamie Před 3 měsíci

    Thanks for this review. My fullsicle se walnut was just not enough strings to satisfy me. Deciding to play harp with no opportunity to actually lay hands on one is an expensive lesson to learn by trial and error! So, Ravenna 34 vs Jolie vs Ogden?

  • @jimbuxton2187
    @jimbuxton2187 Před 11 měsíci

    Lovely. The jolie is more expensive i believe.

  • @susandicken187
    @susandicken187 Před rokem

    Ogden is Amazing

  • @GloriaGarcia-yv1tk
    @GloriaGarcia-yv1tk Před rokem

    I’ll make this brief: Jolie (in my opinion) wins hands down on every song, no matter the sustain! Ogden, although very warm, sounds muted to my ears & I’ve been playing since ‘05. But, Jolie’s price point is albeit, higher than Ogden

  • @MonicaHWWT
    @MonicaHWWT Před rokem

    What is the impact of the soundboard in each instrument? The string difference is interesting, and the sustain makes a big difference depending on the genre of the song. They each have their purpose, as do my two Tripletts, primarily in portability!

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      I think the overall harp design and the way they’ve shaped the wood etc makes a huge difference! The string difference is just a part of the picture, you’re right 👌🏻

  • @LearningtheHarp
    @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

    Let's train our ears to hear the difference between harps!! 😀🎶👂🏻📝 More info about each of the harps at these links 👇🏻
    Ogden: geni.us/Ogden
    Jolie Hybrid Harp: geni.us/joliehybrid *this is an affiliate link - I get a small cut at no extra cost to you 😊

  • @reziaelisa7403
    @reziaelisa7403 Před rokem

    JOLIE, 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @connieLo87365
    @connieLo87365 Před rokem

    I must appologize I thought you were comparing string gut vs nylon, no wonder why I couldn't hear the difference. I can hear the difference in the richness, mellow or brightness in the harps. You are right about the ogden having a bit muddy sound when there is more than one note played in the bass, it has a beautiful mellow rich sound over all more for classical, I love the mellow and high tension. As far as which harp should or could be used for different music, truthfully I think your Jolie surpasses the Ogden for clear tone, bass resonance and tension and can be used for all music, including jigs. You seem (also) to have less hand strain with the Jolie which would give you a more even strike especially in the upper range. Your Jolie has a better sweet note resonance upper strings which is hard to get on many harps instead of a pling. I'm still a mellow harp kid, but that Jolie has a lot of good in it. Every harp, wood, string, harmonic curve, soundboard even the size of the holes and lengths of the strings all have gifts to bring to the tone of a harp. You played a hard game here. If I was a celtic, Jolie would win. Personally, $$ for $$ and still get great music your Ogden wins, great for beginners, budget and the type of tunes they start with. More advanced who knows how to get a tone from their fingers and to mute sustain, the Jolie would win as a forever harp too. Thinking of it as a woman how it would dress and sound going to a funeral, wedding, gala, compatition, church they both win in elegance of sound but if you putting on the Ritz the Jolie all the way, including a Rodeo. Okay which one did you really like the best and not because your heart if fond of you Ogden.

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      That’s ok! Gut vs Nylon is just a simple way for me to describe the two different harps, since it’s a significant contributor to the differences in tone you hear. But you’re right, there are lots of other things that contribute! 😊👍🏻 At the moment I’m enjoying the Jolie Hybrid more overall.

    • @connieLo87365
      @connieLo87365 Před rokem

      @@LearningtheHarp Jolie is beautiful and glamorous she looks great on your shoulder

  • @kendra102938
    @kendra102938 Před rokem

    So pretty! Is this the "golden wheat" color?

  • @PaisLeysaSkye
    @PaisLeysaSkye Před rokem

    This is a pretty close match! I have an Ogden and a Drake! Now that there are BioNylon strings I am going to put those on my Ogden to see the sound change in the Nylon vs BioNylon 😀

    • @lyndavonkanel8603
      @lyndavonkanel8603 Před rokem

      This is the first I've heard of bio nylon strings. Do they sound better than regular nylon strings? I'd sure like to know.

    • @PaisLeysaSkye
      @PaisLeysaSkye Před rokem

      @@lyndavonkanel8603 I’m working on it….I have a Drake with BioCarbon and LOVE it….I am placing an order for the BioNylon soon, then I will change out my regular nylon ….if you have an Ogden they are in the buy strings sections …new product

    • @lyndavonkanel8603
      @lyndavonkanel8603 Před rokem

      @@PaisLeysaSkye I love the way my Ogden sounds and will keep it the way it is with gut strings. I am interested in trying the BioNylon on my Fullsicle if the tension is not too much for it. Thanks, I hope you will keep in touch letting me know what your experience will be.

    • @PaisLeysaSkye
      @PaisLeysaSkye Před rokem

      @@lyndavonkanel8603 the gut string section I will leave it alone but every Ogden has nylon strings in the first and second octaves unless you changed those octaves out to gut already….my Ogden still has its nylon in those octaves and those are the ones I would seek to change not the gut….I will remember to come back here when I make the change and share with you !!! Also, I think that would fun to see on your Fullsicle!!!! 🎶

    • @lyndavonkanel8603
      @lyndavonkanel8603 Před rokem

      @@PaisLeysaSkye How delightful are your remarks! I'll look forward to hearing form you again. I will have to figure out how to post a picture here and when I do, I'll send a picture of it. I'm pretty sure "Oggie" has all gut strings. Later!

  • @sharonpearson340
    @sharonpearson340 Před rokem

    I would say that the Jolie wins with most of the songs you played. I could tell that the Jolie is much easier to play with fast tunes.

  • @goldenchalice77
    @goldenchalice77 Před rokem

    I’m hard pressed to pick. I like things about both. Choices, choices…..

  • @rebeccaroot4402
    @rebeccaroot4402 Před rokem

    Both beautiful, but the Jolie sound appeals to me more, even on the classical pieces. How does the feel of playing compare? Does the lightness of the Jolie effect its stability against your body? Have you found you need to alter your technique or how you sit?

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem +1

      Hi Rebecca! Yes my husband Jonny also prefers the Jolie sound even for classical pieces, and my mom prefers the Ogden for all the pieces so it’s definitely personal taste! The lightness of the Jolie doesn’t affect me that much during playing, I adjusted very quickly. But I have found that when putting up the levers, the harp moves a bit because the levers are a bit tight and the harp is so light. I spoke to Music Makers and they said the levers will loosen up which makes sense because I’ve played other harps with Camac levers and they were much looser, so I’m sure it’ll be fine! Other than that, I have found that I am able to sit a bit lower because the Jolie isn’t as tall as the Ogden, which is convenient because I found that a normal dining chair was too low for sitting at my Ogden. So I’m very happy with that change! One more thing is I have to dampen the bass more often because of the longer sustain 😊👍🏻

  • @zbigniewnowak7505
    @zbigniewnowak7505 Před rokem

    Osiołkowi w żłoby dano. W jednym owies w drugim siano. Obie harfy brzmią pięknie, którą wybrać na początek??!😮😮❤

  • @marathongranny
    @marathongranny Před rokem

    Hi, I purchased some of your videos with sheet music a couple years ago. I was wondering how I could email you to get the link to download them again? I can't remember my password or how to find them.

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      Ok, send us an email at hello@learningtheharp.com and Glenda will help you on Monday when she’s back at the office 😊👍🏻

  • @Dorbad
    @Dorbad Před rokem

    I am looking into buying my first harp (never played an instrument before). I am looking for a $500 budget and am between the harpsicle 26 without levers and the derwent 20 with c and f levers. I am looking to play songs like zelda song of storms. Do you think one option would be better than the other?

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      The problem with a 20 string harp is that there is very little harp music or educational materials written for that size. So I would recommend starting with the Harpsicle and then adding levers later when you have budget for it 😃

  • @MiaStrayer
    @MiaStrayer Před rokem +1

    They both sound very similar to me I can't tell the difference

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem

      Oh that’s interesting! Did you try listening on headphones? It sounds very different to me 🤗

  • @SongOfMoonchild
    @SongOfMoonchild Před rokem

    From you review i got that Jolie fits better for songs that played slowly(because of nice beatiful sustain). I also have Jolie, but mine is not hybrid, and i bought it as harp kit. Sounds bright.
    But i am not satisfied with my piezo pickup.Can you please recommend me microphone for home recording?

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem +1

      Hi there! I’ve used a few different microphones successfully - generally I find that a good condenser mic works well. I’ve enjoyed using RodeNT2, but that’s just because it’s a mic that my dad already had so I didn’t have to buy one 😁

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před rokem +1

      I like to place the mic about 1 meter away from the harp, not too close.

    • @SongOfMoonchild
      @SongOfMoonchild Před rokem

      Thank you very much. I will check it 😊

  • @elizabethdexter3779
    @elizabethdexter3779 Před 6 měsíci

    Do you miss the upper A string?

    • @LearningtheHarp
      @LearningtheHarp  Před 6 měsíci

      Almost never 😊 I only miss it when it’s in sheet music of a song.

  • @annamarialopez1640
    @annamarialopez1640 Před rokem

    Is the Jolie Hybrid harp using nylon strings?

  • @GloryBeToGodForever
    @GloryBeToGodForever Před rokem

    Then *God* said…. let there be harps.