Predator 212 Go Kart Mikuni 22mm Nitrous / Nos Install
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- čas přidán 6. 12. 2016
- Today I install the 6sigma nitrous kit on a Predator 212 with a Mikuni carb. It made a big difference compared to the Little Red nitrous install.
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If you will drill and tap the carb adapter and feed nitrous there it should be a noticeably better maybe like a revisit
This is so cool! Keep up the good work on the videos man. I love this one.
+KartFab I appreciate it man. I have been watching yours as well
Yeah its been a while. I've got some big stuff coming out when i can finally have a few days off around Christmas. If you ever want to collaborate, just shoot me a message.
+KartFab email me at greg@rbgkarts.com
thats what i had been looking for brother really appriciated
No problem,you deserve it and have earned it, for real.Fan for life
Man, I've never been able to get a Mikuni tuned right, but I do love the round slide, there is zero loss of motion.
I am going to make a video soon on how to tune one properly. So stay tuned.
nice!
Mikuni has a tune PDF on their site that is great but how I do it is tuneeach circuit separately it will be close enough to final tune from there
@@RedBeardsGarage did you ever make a Mikuni tuning video? I have a hard time tuning mine.
I'm really enjoying the videos man, keep up the good work.
I appreciate the support man. Lots more to come.
Red Beard's Garage kan I put the the kit that is 60 buks for my 2001 Suzuki quad runner 250 it wood be a big help
Red Beard's Garage put a turbo on the street go kart
Just ordered the carb kit, I'm tired of jacking with the stock carbs, plus we run a pulse pump and had to install a tee to also send some of the fuel back to the fuel tank. that sure helped control fuel delivery to the stock / modified carbs.
Do you actually feel it kick in? Or would I see better gains from a cam swap?
Can you reject it to inject more? I’d like to see bigger bottles forsure.
Thank you go power sports and red beard 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀🚁
Also would make sure your not pushing fuel the wrong way in the carb since the way you have it set up will pressurize the venturi
Hi Red Beard!
Thanks for making this video as I am building a mini bike with my young son.I want to add a 6 sigma nitrous kit.I am running a Tillotson 212cc hemi with a 24mm mikuni flat slide...the question I have is you said using a pulse pump would be very beneficial to the nitrous..if I run the pulse pump with the output go directly to the carb or should I split it with a "Y" and send some of the fuel to the intake? Thank u so much
Thanks, its not for a gokart though,. It's for my occ schwinn.mini bopper, can't wait for wiring video. Will send you some pictures when done. Just wanted to say thank you again for all your help. Rich
+Melissa Lucas no problem man thanks for watching.
please do a timed point to point with just motor and then with nitrous so we can compare the real world differences.
also just a piece of advice but you should never use teflan with nutrous. it will harden and break off teflan chunks that can end up passing into the carb.
I saw those Hot-Wheels in the back ground, =) I collect them also. Nitrous Go-kart, way cool dude.
I love your videos,keep up the good work.
another great video !!! keep up the great work.
Hello Red Beard. Ijust finishded my Generator. I had to take it apart several times to get it right!. I used the 7hp crank and puston. the pistion and crank that came with my new predator 6.5 hp was incorrect for my application. the rod journal was too small to use the new piston. so i cleaned up the old one. it was 6 months old so it looked great. great tip on using antiseize on the flywheel and generator connections to the crankshaft. they come apart easly. after a days work I got er Done! the crankshaft is shorter on the 7hp and the new predator has a hemi head and better valves. I set the valves at .004 .and I also used the 7hp camshaft. it had a bigger spring on the cam govenor. it runs great! I think the engine has more ccs now with the changes made .the old head was flat bottom. the engine runs great on propane ,with lots of power! I will run it mostly on propane because it burns cleaner, resulting in less carbon buildup in my engine. now I guess I will build my old motor totally radical next. where can I buy performance parts online?
+David Mayhall go power sports and be racing has a good selection. I'm glad you got it going man.
+Red Beard's Garage nr racing is what it was suppose to say
Yeah...that made a difference! Very cool.
Red Beard, Im fairly new to building my own motorized beach cruiser/trike.....been watching your videos and learning a lot, my question is, the second air filter, where is it attached and where can i get one?
my name is mark and I just started to watch your videos on CZcams and iv fell in love whith them and I subscribed so I can watch them and I also like to work on go karts and the machanic world of cars and bikes keep up the good work man and ill keep watching your videos
+Mark Risjan I appreciate it man. Thanks for the support
Dude ur vids r awsome best ive seen
How do you tell the carb there is more oxygen than usual, so it can add more fuel? To me it looks like that nitrous kit is just causing a lean condition.
I think you need a wet nitrous system for carb engines?
Or is there also fuel inside the whippets?
Hi Red!
Thank you so much for the Videos! Very informative! My son and I are building a minibike using a Tillotson 212cc Hemi and changing the carb to a Mikuni 24mm Flat Slide..the question we have is do I need to add a fuel pump to make it run richer for the NOS add on and is there a such thing as running it too rich and would it hurt anything? The Tillotson is mostly stock except for the better filter,exhaust and carb...not sure if I need additional fuel via a bigger carb jet and or additional pump...once again thank you so much for helping us novices ! Your the man!
Have you gotten it together yet?
Hello Red Beard! I am a huge fan, and I really do appreciate these upgrade type videos. The nitrous is really cool, but it would be really awesome if you could do a video on a turbocharger for the predator 212. ☺
I may at a later date. There is just no point really and it cost a lot. You really cant get much power out of it.
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I understand, none the less, I hope you decide to try it sometime down the line as it would be pretty cool despite the small performance gains. Will stay subscribed! :)
Shizzy Wizzy there is someone in Texas that put a supercharger for his just look up supercharged minibike
Shizzy Wizzy
@carsandcameras made a vid
Wts going on ,where did you get the rim Nd tires from on the go kart
Funny to see how you used film compared to now. Framing up that wall in the shot makes you look short. Pretty funny.
if the line for the nitrous was shorter would make more power it's a long way to travel for such a little bottle
Where can you refill the tanks at? Any pace that refills regular nitrous bottles for drag cars?
Need to put a nozzle inside the intake manifold that is jetted correctly and simed directly at the intake valve
Can you run a predator 212 stage 1 kit and the nitrious kit at the same time
sealing with teflon tape... to an air filter?i think you filter might leak a wee bit more than that connection.
Can you please do a video on how to set up the shifter/clutch handle? I’m tryin to put a YZ80 engine on a go kart and I’m not sure how to set up the shift linkages or the clutch handle on the steering wheel
We are building a shifter kart right now videos will be up very soon
Can you use this on stock internals ?
Simple instead of spending 60 bucks just go buy you a 1 lb nitrous bottle used and a fogger nozzle that's all you need plummet to your intake, and of course make sure your carb is jetted for it and you got a way better looking nitrous kit then some tiny little CO2 bottle. Besides I think nitrous is like between 15 to 35 cents a pound depending on where you live other than that great build it's nice to know you can actually pull some power out of some things as long as they're tuned right I'll make sure you got the right exhaust system to.
It's a little cleaner look if you install on the manifold just a idea it's easier and guarantees no metal shavings imbedded in the filter just awaiting to dislodge the other reason I came up with this ideas cuz I don't like shitt sticking out their hella far just like the header pipe sticking out there aways I had to Tuck mine away
Cool kit I need one for are next build
You shouldnt use teflon tape anywhere near fuel.. it will deteriorate the tape and it will gum your carb up. You should use a bit of silicone sealent like permatex.
Where is it used near fuel?
NOS is not fuel. The engine doesn't run on NOS, like it's some kind of crack for the engine. It just cools, basically freezes, the air charge so more fuel can get in.
Hey red beard I was wondering about a video on installing nos on the Coleman kt196
How much of a speed increase does it give to speed?
Does anywhere sell a Angled intake manifold adaptor that points the assembly back so when the bike falls the air filter and carb dont break on the ground?
Very interesting.
Very interesting. Are you not afraid of leaning out the engine?
Hayo sopo sg rene gara² kepo pgn ero nos e brondong dekek endii wkwkwkwk ...
Oque ele fez ali ? Na onde ele colocou isso? Colocou um adaptador?
how does the plunger work on the carb?
Have you ever done a 420cc?
My current steering setup is the 3 hole where do you get the adapter to have the 6 hole for the type r steering
I just ordered a car quick release adapter
Hello Redbird my name is Clayton Miller and I live in Florida I am a huge fan but I have a question for you when installing a 22 mmacuni carburetor to add nitrous oxide do I have to change my pushrods and spring do I need to upgrade to a stage 1 kit
Before I do it would it make my motor throw a rod
is 20w-50 any good for a mini bike. im not trying to get speed out of it, just long use on the trails. i live in FL so it doesnt get too cold.
I would say it would be fine
I’m curious to know why didn’t it get hooked up to the manifold? Being some manifolds have a air connector peace wouldn’t it be hooked up there?
A fuel injected engine would have it in the manifold. A throttle body just lets in air. The air makes its way thru the intake when it meets the fuel injector, then fuel is introduced. You want that cold air the NOS is creating mixing with the fuel.
Carb engines carry the air/fuel mixer thru the entire intake, atomized via the carb, so the NOS should go right into the carb.
The difference being, a fuel injected engine can adapt to the lean condition the NOS creates, and not skip a beat. Carb engines need extra fuel to come from somewhere else with the NOS since the carb has no idea it's being fed NOS nor is it capable of a way to just add the correct amount to keep that 14.7 : 1 air fuel ratio.
What size jet should i use with my kit? I have a 212 Hemi with stage 1 running a 115 jet. 120 gets a little to rich and choppy. My kit didn't come with a jet.
You should do a video for a elecric start on the predator 212
+Jesse Mccloud yeah I have been wanting to for a while just haven't bought all the parts. I will do one in February.
Red Beard's Garage Yeah it would be super usefull. I'll definitely keep an eye out for when u do a video on it. Thanks for replying by the way most people don't lol
No problem man
You have metal shavings inside the filter now. Might get sucked into the carb or engine.
Do you have to put different gas in it
What size drill bit?? Thanks.
can I put this in my rc 390??
may i ask why you didn't install the nitrous on the intake side of the carb? i use to have a base plate NOS on my camaro and it was a bit to much with a 150 shot so i pulled it off
The nos just cools the air going into the engine, cool air is denser, and can carry more fuel, so you'd want it before the carb so it can mix with the gas/air charge.
Was your Camero fuel injected? Cause if it was, then the nos plate would go behind the throttle body, which is nothing more than an air valve, and it would still be introducing the NOS behind the fuel injectors, since they're "usually" right in front of the intake ports in a gas engine.
I wanna get the carb for my Cole man mini bike but I live in sugar sand any suggestions?
What size is the jet does it come with and why wouldn't the jet be at the point in which it feeds the engine?
+Mike Allen it's just to regulate how much pressure is let out from the tank.
mmm, nachos kit... I love it!
Great vid brother keep it up. On the nitrous port get something with a nozzle it might direct the shot better or atomize it better.
Well with such a small shot i don't think it would be worth it to mess with.
O ok got ya.
Sis, I asked if Nitrous Oxyda could be applied to a motorcycle with a small tube size like that and if you buy the name of the tool, what is the button, it's complete as an example whether the motor can be faster thanks, hopefully answered
you should put it on the intake bc if you put it in the air filter it's gonna blow some of it out of the filter
yeah if u put a little ose deeper in it it was not a problem
If you got air blowing out the air filter then your valves are fooked.
So the nitrous is the standard canisters you use in the whipped cream dispensers?
+HUGH MUNGUS yeah I think 8 grams
Just installed this on the pocket bike on my channel!
Dylon Desbiens heyyyy dude,i watched that vid
Me to
red beards a savage dude has gats mess wit his bikes he has firepower lol nice 👌
Do these carbs bolt on to Honda engines
the 670cc predator comes with a single massive carb for the vtwin cylinder engine I'm contemplating using one of those for my next build but gopowersports has a 390 carb that you can have one for each cylinder and that in turn will help it run better do you think it's possible to run the Nos through the spacer between the cylinder and the carb and whether it would work well or not? Once I have enough saved up I wanna build a minibike from the ground up with the 670cc I love my doodle bug with my modded 212 just 40mph is a lil too slow and not sketchy enough. lol
The Nos kit should work fine running it on the intake like that. Those carbs should do good as well.
Red Beard's Garage Thanks!!
How many sprays can you get out of that?
what size motor do you guys recommend for a maurray explorer it has a 6.5 horse on it and its not enough so i was thinking about a 13 horse honda would it be to much
420cc would be awesome on it with a 40 series cvt
nice job.
have u ever considered supplementing some propane along with the nitrous on a solenoid valve so ur not runnin too lean?
+Mike Jones I maybe doing a EFI on a engine soon so that would help out with the lean problem v
Red Beard's Garage man, thats gonna be a beast, are u gonna do that to a gx270 cos i have 1 of those engines and ive done some pnp and shaved .005 off the head and what a difference, but cant wait to see that vid when u get it done
Im probably going to do it on a gx340
I can't help but notice that the nitrous kit trigger looks just like a co2 bicycle tire inflator, which can be had for under $20. If the nitrous cylinders are interchangeable with the co2 cylinders, that could be a cheap DIY option. Any idea if this could work?
You would blow the engine up. These have a small jet to regulate the amount of n2o going into the carb
Never done a whip-it?? Aka "hippy crack?" They sell them in boxes by the dozens at cooking supply stores for making whipped cream.
They also sell em at porno shops 24/7 for the sole purpose of intentionally inhaling them. They sell a little thing called a cracker, and you fill a balloon with one cartridge and then just huff it until your face turns blue and everything sounds like "wa wa wa" and you fall over laughing. Is exactly like the dentist. Only stupider.
They're almost the same size as the co2 cartridges, just a little shorter.
Can this kit work on a 600cc?
You should have did a nitrous kit on the street go kart
Do you think I could put two nitrous lines so I can have 16 seconds of boost and also have double the boost for 8 seconds
Yeah im sure you could.
Hi R. B. I have a 26mm mikuni will a 22mm intake fit on it. Please respond...
Rick on RBG🤘
Is there ever any need to put a pulse pump on a gravity feed carb on mini bike?
I put on one mine, thinking if i was leaning into a turn i was gonna starve it of fuel, but it doesn't need it. It was circulating more fuel back into the gas tank than it ever needed. I let it sit for too long, the diaphragm must have cracked , one day i rode it and i pumped the crankcase full of gasoline via the pulse hose i had tapped into the valve cover. Blew the crank seal off, along with all the oil and the gas it now had in there. That's when i took it off and put an oil catch can on the engine instead. This was on a relatively stock GX160 clone that started life as a generator. It has a Honda crank, billet rod, billet flywheel, some heavier valve springs, but stock carb, stock piston, nothing that would demand more fuel.
Spend the money on a gas shut off valve if your carb doesn't already have one.
I don't about air cooled engine. But I seen people put nitrous on a bone stock car engine. It scorch the valves and burn cylinders. You think that will do the same to the predator engine?
Jimmy Hinton this is a really small shot. maybe if you used it a ton but I'm personally not worried about it
If done properly. It does not hurt a stock car engine. That's a myth started by people that did not do it properly.
As long as enough fuel is added with the nitrous, it won’t do any of that. I ran it on a 1641cc bug motor with ported stock heads, cast pistons and mild cam. It went from 71hp at the flywheel to 90 and lasted until I broke a rod.
Hey man I know this video is old but as I'm watching this is noticed something my Coolster pit bike came stock with an air filter like similar to this but it was going to the engine was it sucking the air out can anyone who knows tell me I pointed it up and zipped tied into bike it was a 125cc
You a thumbs up for.....THE BOOTS!!!
I'm getting this for my mini bike.
+Dakota Ranger it's a fun kit
Red Beard's Garage I just put out a video of my mini bike I'm putting it on.
hello red Beard, I have a honda clone 4400 generator 7 hp. blew a head gasket, and the spark coil fried. so i picked up a new predator 6.5 hp motor at harbour freight. I disassembled my generator noticing the diffrence in crankshafts the end is tapered with no keyway. can I use my 7hp crank in my new motor? and what mods can I do for a stable smooth engine for my Generator?
yeah thats what you will have to do is swap cranks out
Hey man you have the same go kart frame we are building off of can you tell me how you did the rear axle?
+Karson Miller watch the street go kart series on my channel. I can't remember what episode I did it on but I filmed it.
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alright thanks man we are going to try to set ours up pretty similar to yours
+Karson Miller it has a lot of room and if you brace it up then it will make a pretty good frame
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awesome we will do
So for a 125 cc pitbike this application would be to same just put a hole in the filter and adjust the carb so it won't lean out?
+Jedi Jamo The One yes sir
sweet im doing it, for the price its too good to pass up.
Jedi Jamo The One a real nos sneaky pete is Sooo much better look into em. they run off 9v battery for the solenoid and you will get a longer shot.
I need to buy the kit as i need some information to my project so i request you to lv any contact
I could do this to my mini bike as well right? I have a 212 predator
Fletcher Mcconnell yeah you totally could
Hi , what kind of rear axel do You guys use for buggies ? Is this that chinese axel ?
I always get them from go power sports. They never rust and are great quality
I used your name when buying my stage 1
Will the nitrous kit work on mini bikes also
+Adrenalinejunky yes any small engine
hey i have questions if i disconect the governor from the ouside and live the actual governor inside the motor would it work fine or might it break something i mean take of the springs and the little arm that holds the springs
I have never tried to leave it in. I was always worried that the arm would swing and hit the crank and could mess some stuff up.
Red Beard's Garage. i dont know if you understood or if i dint understood but the little arm im talking about is the one underneath the gas tank that the springs are connected to the carb
Yes I understand. That arm is attached to a rod that goes inside the block and works with the gear for the governor. I do not recommend leaving it because it could hit the crank if it was to come loose and mess stuff up. Thats your call if you want to leave it.
Red Beard's Garage. thanks alot man i might just leave it alone
thats my plan to swap cranks into the new block, and use my 7hp cam and lifters, not shure about the head type on the new block. my generator is dual fuel. i noticed carbon build up on my piston and head, from burning gas. I mostly use propane to power the generator. what caused the head gasket to blow out? poor assembly at factory?
Not really sure. I could have not been torqued to spec in the factory.
Propane has no oil in it like gasoline does. Its a dry fuel, and no engine will live very long running on it, or CNG for that matter.
Clean off that carbon, and adjust the valves periodically, maybe lap them at this point, you know, 6 years later..
You put your teflon tape on the fitting backwards.
Nicky Flores no he didn't
hey dude i have a mini bike and took out the jackshaft as you know its take of slow what clutch (centrifugal) can i put on it i want something that can make it take of with some power
Six years late, but 3D Motorsports makes a manual clutch that fits (is ot 3/4" shaft?) on my GX160.
Might better to fit powerjet more fuel when needed adjustable too
I might want to drill a hole ( 1/2" ) in the intake manifold and go wet, your thoughts?
Yeah it might make a little bit more of a power difference. I may try it in a later video.
hay if u have any cluchs around weather it be auto or manual could u send one to me cause im making a gocart from a mower engine
We use all our parts that we have. We either have a plan for them or need them as just in case parts.
what mods did you all do to this go cart
advanced the timing 8 degrees, exhaust, carb. I am putting a 9hp Honda on it so I did't want to build it any further.
Will this work on a lawn mower
sounds like you sayin natcho kit sometimes hejeh nice vid