Why India and the US are close friends but not 'full allies' • FRANCE 24 English
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- In this edition of Perspective, we take a closer look at India as a political force in the world. How does the planet's most populous country operate as a geopolitical player, especially amid the conflict in Ukraine? And how does India interact with superpowers, particularly the US? Dr Ashley Tellis, a former senior advisor to the US ambassador to India, describes the relationship between New Delhi and Washington as one of close friends, but not "full allies". He spoke to FRANCE 24's Gavin Lee in Perspective.
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Stop supplying aid & weapons to Pakistan
What? Wait I have a picture of Prime Minister Modi Hugging President Obama one day and buying American weapons the next.
Russia sells weapons to India and Pakistan. So stop being Russia ally.
@Madame702 and USA have been donating weapons to Pakistan since the independence (( while banning sell to India for majority of history)) . That forced close ties between India and Soviet just for the balance example USA literally donated f-16 to Pakistan that forced india to make a fleet of sukoi aircrafts . So if USA wants india to downgrade their relationship with russia , then USA should starts with downgrading their relationship with Pakistan .
@@Madame702Out of context
The point is america supported pakistan for 70 years but even now thwy want ro be close woth india and also aupply weapons to Pakistan@@Madame702
"To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal” - Former USA Secretary of State Henry Kissinger
The US is not a reliable partner, just be careful
@@maximus1172 he's not a bot. He's a real human being, and his opinion is being shared by majority of indians. Now, cope and seethe.
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@@danishh8454😂😂😂 that was epic.
'Allies' is a Western terminology. We use the term 'Partnership' frequently in the Asia.
Yep.
Nato was created out of Europe's hopelessness after war
They sold their sovereignty to US for peace and prosperity
And yeah we can never be a allies bcoz there are some differences too but surely be a close friend
Yes. Business partners. Not friends.
@@Salicylic_Acid2024 Strategic partners, we have common interests and that is it.
For now...@@flaminmongrel6955
Simple they are doing what every country should do. They act ONLY upon their own interest's not America's interests like France and EU
Nailed it
I think France acts more independently relative to most European countries.
That’s what US is also doing !! Why point 🇮🇳🇮🇳
France has a quasi foreign policy independent of USA imo at least in comparison to rest of EU.
Everyone knows that India is selfish, greedy, and self centered. That's why we don't take your advice when helping other countries.
India has only one thing in mind and that is development...we are 1.4 billion people lower middle income country..we must not involve with US's mind games and war
This not about that Indian. Why is that you keep arguing over the wrong thing?
You see it not about friendship it more about mutual interest and crisis. For instance, when the Covid-19 was devastating India, Prime Minster Modi realize that America could 3D print protein vaccines. It was incredible it take India maybe 5 years to develop a vaccine that America could print in 6 months. So that "crisis" was another way that India allied itself with America.
@@Madame702Bro its just partnership not ally.We are very very close partner but not ally
You should go back and learn what ally means to USA.
Actually Bill Gates helped India on vaccines l.@@Madame702
@@Madame702 Indian vaccines are better and has less side effects compared to pfizer & moderna.
You are completely wrong. India is gradually building its own table or block whatever you say. Forget about India joining other blocks, sooner than later, other countries will join Indian block. Apart from the USA, Russia and China, India is going to become the 4th superpower in the world in every field from technology to economy to military strength.
You are completely Deluded
Don't tell them truth
Just don't get Scammed into fighting for Russia for a job LOL. 🤣🤣.
@@Sid-lg4qe They are incapable to understand and busy figuring out their gender identity!! 😂
@@Salicylic_Acid2024Probably your boss is a indian please check
You don't ditch time tested partners for transactional salesmen.
Nicely put 😊
Absolutely right. I think Russia India North Korea China Iran Saudis are these like Minded countries should come close and form a joint.
@@Salicylic_Acid2024bro only India democratic nation other all are dictator rule so we don't want to handshake with dictator
@@targetfixdreamdoctor8563if democracies cannot shake hand with dictatorships then pakistna would never have got support from usa and nor would have china got so much investment from eu and usa. Democracy is a thin veil that western nations hide behind when convinient
@@surajs5913where is democracy in United Nations...just 5 permanent members enjoying powers...hypocrisy of west on so called champions of democracy is a laughing stuffs ...India is a democracy with 1/6 population...but not a permanent membership...UK & France with combined population of just 150 million have got permanent membership....India with 1400 millions population not yet given...so yours democracy is not democracy, it's a aristocracy
Allies means dependency and liability. India wants to avoid such things after colonization.
India wants to grow as much as we can, we will do anything i mean anything to full fill our interest from developing nuclear arsenals to the space race to making sure to sit on the both sides of the table no one can dare to stop us now because cmon you don't want the worlds most populous country against you, do you?
Says a paid bot
@@cHinduCrusher funny considering you are a racist.
@@cHinduCrusherwhy is your username that? Curious to know
allies when America is arming Pakistan against India . seriously ?
Is US still a super power😂. French media is living in a wonderland.
Main reason is USA still support Pakistan army. USA need to make strong and neutral Foreign Policies like Switzerland.
True 😊😊😊😊
USA is a lot bigger than India and Switzerland economy combine USA don’t care
That is impossible.
They wont. They want to preserve their dominance no matter what so they'll play dirty
@@soham4741right uncle
India can't leave Russia.. three fourths of Indian military is of Russian origin.. It is not in India's interest to do so,, just to satisfy the Americans. Also Russia has helped India in times of utmost need. India has a lot to lose if it leaves Russia.
Do you see how Russia is doing in Ukraine? Is that really the military you want as an ally? Could they even reach the front if you were to have a war? Do you think Russia would do anything at all against China? Come on.
It was because US supplied weapons to Pakistan and always supported them
Bro wake up and see pls 😂😂
So India just can't leave the past. I am not surprised.
@@tayler2396 dum dum they have 75 trillions worth of resources
Being An US ally simply Means servant of USA
Which uk is.
@@radhika00240: Yes but they have religion and blood relation with Americans. What do we have? Nothing...
We don't have to lick Americas boots, we need to become self reliant and self sufficient.
Is US still a super power😂. French media is living in a wonderland.
India likes a world where there is a sense of community and cooperation....this mindless wars its not in its DNA
You are living in lala land.
@@marspalk7611 Living in lala land is better than living in a land where kids are killed in their schools..no bro i prefer lala land
@@marspalk7611idk but if you see the history we never went to war with other countries in almost like forever, wars were imposed on us but never from our side, so yeah you should come to the real world too.
@@marspalk7611Yes, India must feel like a lala land to you.
This is a bot 😂@@marspalk7611
We Indians trust France as a friend and definitely not USA.
It is not worth any feeling of friendship.
Friends? More like master to help the servant in need
@@adolft_officialjealous Muslim 😂😂
@@adolft_officialKaboom 💣
Trust no one as friends.
@@adolft_officialmasters is a term reserved for the American pakistani relationship😂
As an Indian, i won't call us as ally, it was never an ally. I think India should stop depending on us as fast as possible. It could prove dangerous.
"full allies" means "vassal states" of usa just like poland uk germany and partly france ... india like to have autonomous independent foreign policy based on its national interest free from any toing of lines or joining usa bandwagon mindlessly. india is itself a pole we don't need to be on this or that camp .the better these western analyst underst the better they would be able to analyse india ... same dumb question is asked again and again
That's the point. Full allies are only possible if both countries are at political parity. Turkey and Azerbaijan can become full allies.
@@someonejustsomeone1469 allies in western terminology means vassal states or satellite states of usa. Nothing more
@@HIMANSHU79879 in order to have allies usa must be challenged first. Otherwise it becomes a master-slave relationship.
Agree 💯💯💯💯💯💯
@@someonejustsomeone1469no because they Muslim country
I would like to ask France.....what happen to your submarines deals with Australia??? Thats why there is a trust issues between USA and India
We like Americans, we wish america all the peace and prosperity in the world. But, we are not going to ditch an old freind who helped us when Americans were playing with jihadists.India fought 4 wars with pakistan, In 3 of them, pakistan used american weapons against us. I wonder why nobody in america cares about close pak-china ties, isn't pakistan your close ally? We do not agree with what Russians are doing, we are absolutely against this or any war. But we are also not blind to not see the hypocrisy and the double standards. It's not russian weapons on american borders, it's the other way around. USA didn't gave us F-16s, they gave them to pakistan when India's main fighter was mig-21. We know exactly what's going on...
The problem with state propaganda is that it never works outside the boundaries of the state.
The word ally is a Western concept and not for India to follow. Also, being an ally of the US implies supporting it in its every endeavor which India does not agree with. There are certainly some fundamental differences between American values and Indian values which clash from time to time. India may want to be a close friend of the US without giving up its independent decision-making power. There is some history behind the US and India's past - the US supported Pakistan in all the wars India fought and one of the prime reasons why the US wants to be closer with India is because of China. There is no genuine love relationship here unlike the Indo-French relationship or Indo-Russia or Indo-Israel relationships. Trust has to be built in order to have a close relationship between these two countries and both the countries ain't there yet.
In past western nations sanctions India n supported Pakistan. This can not be discounted while measuring relationship dynamics.
We can even believe a snake but not US
But you can't leave US.
Its called self interest
NO it called SELF CENTERED their a difference. Don't give us advice on now to help other countries, Indian. We don't need it from someone like you.
Which you can learn at otmost from USA.For AUKUS deal UK and USA literally betrayed FRANCE.Literally they betrayed
to be an ally of america means serving america's interest.
This is not an honourable partnership.
What you have no idea of what you are talking about. First, all you can't even name America's interests. Indian don't start spouting off thing you don't know.
@Madame702 oh we know American interests are enslaving it's population in drugs, nsa spying , false accusing iraq of weapons of mass destruction and creating proxy jihadist groups etc., there are lot more
@@Madame702then where is going our intrest, our military totally depends on Russian weapons what we make these weapons with only some years, not at all, so this is our requirements to buy Russian weapons
@@Madame702 ironic
@@Madame702oh shut up you baboon.
Time will tell you the size of India's own table. We are working on it.
Wow ! The best retort 😊
full allies means vassal states😊
Abhijit chavda
India should be the member of United Nations security council....they deserve it in this crucial era of geopolitics..
Don't try to understand us, just enjoy us..
🤣😂
Allies ❎️
Business Partners ✅️
For US allies means puppets. India and certainly Modi won't be a puppet. He is a smart politician. India will try itself to stay away from any conflicts unless being provoked by China or Pakistan.
And when you have a conflict with China, then you will want American and European help, right?
@@tayler2396Lol, when did US or europe ever came to India's aid, stop spreading half baked knowledge🥱🥱🥱🥱
@@tayler2396 Starving to death...american help....looks like u graduated from McDonald's wifi, America under the nixon administration had one of the most anti-india stands in history(his role in india-pak 1971 war) ,where did u even learn that American aid came to alleviate India's hunger problem, bro's calling a 3rd yr Mbbs student a 12 yr old💀💀💀. Ukraine was also against India's stand in 1998 , whereas Russia supported us.... and people expect us to help ukraine, the level of misinformation that these people have 😓😓😓😓
when the eff you are reading , us sent pig fodder in 60s when we wanted wheat , in 70s we started green revolution and secured our food supply we have enough wheat and rice storage to feed european union for 1.5 year@@tayler2396
when tell me facts and documents reference .. dude india is food surplus country u can google yourself@@tayler2396
India speaks English Indians are very promopt in life to work and pay their bills and live good life same like any western country but way of life is still traditional and conservative.
@@joexavier4070hmm u r right but they r growing , in the begining u were born with nothing but now u might have a lot includong clothes
@@joexavier4070backward 😂😂😂. Do u bend backwards a lot
@@joexavier4070 lol if u can call the same for conservatives in USA then sure ya. forward aint better always..
nope , we preserve our culture and civilizational roots unlike some who converted for monetary benefits @@joexavier4070
Many* is missing .. not all Indians.
Whichever table is serving the best food, preferably vegetarian. It will be a one to one as equals, long lasting and deep and a meaningful relationship with focus on common interests and objectives.
India doesn't sit at other tables but creates its own. Whoever is not with India in next 25 years will be deemed unfortunate
Both america and india have different cultural - religious - historical - ethnic and lingustic differences with each other.
We also have sometime different political approach with each other .
You Indians are just "babies" you don't understand how the world works.
I said that because India was behind industrialization and that Russian technology was not that good India would turn to the United States. I was right, Russia fell farther and farther behind India was forced to look to the United States for technology, internet, cloud computing, Data centers, and Artificial intelligence.
I predicted that India would have to go to the United States for help if the "Pandemic" hit the world. Indians, like you laugh at me said that "never happened". Covid-19 came of China and spread like "wild fire" across India. America could 3D print vaccines at incredible fast rate. Prime Minister Modi came to conclusion that India was at lease twenty behind in technological development in medicine compared to the United States and asked President Biden for help.
Next will be the "Energy Crisis" you yet face such a dire test. Million in India could starve it is coming Indian, you will see it is coming.
@@Madame702Nonsense. With the largest population in the world India handled covid pretty well and never asked US for vaccines. India developed its own vaccines and even provided to many countries when US was hoarding vaccines.
Love and Respect for France🙏
My foot.
@@radhika00240 what
@@brk7796 👟France. Their is no love or respect for France in India.
@@radhika00240 as a Indian I love France
One question America needs to ask itself.
Are we trustable ?!
Btw, India is always gonna play it safe.
It has learnt a lot from it's history.
Learnt alot from history??
British conquered all of India by convinently allying themselves with local Indian kingdoms and our own local Indian kingdoms failed to ally with eachother to stop the British
Our local Indian kingdoms also failed to Ally with eachother to stop ghori or Mughals too
The only thing we have learnt from history is that our approach to foreign policy is a blunder
We love to stand out of conflict of our friends but we love to hope our friend will sell weapons and help us in our time of conflict remember we stood alone in 1971 we stood alone in 1999 (pak had many nations backing it ) while we might have won these conflicts but it was a failure in part of our foreign policy
@@prateeksharma6706In 1999 USA was the one who denied GPS to protect Pakistan and at that time it was Our nuclear deterance that made USA to stay cam .
Because India have given clear warning we are ready to lose 1/4th of our country but Pakistan wouldn't see next Sunrise .
Is US still a super power😂. French media is living in a wonderland.
We are partners, not friends. In international politics, nobody is friends or enemy.. everything is give & take..
India has learnt a lot from it's past.
For India France is better than the US , so no need to hate, we know our limit of friendship 🇮🇳
We follow Henry Kissinger quote
Also follow "Not Scamming" 😂
@@Salicylic_Acid2024 and destroyed any country on name of so democracy
@@HydraSumit-qm9fq And Not Becoming a Terrooorrist
@@Salicylic_Acid2024 name any indian UN designated, india and pakistan are two different countries
@@Salicylic_Acid2024 Nuke on Japan .( 200,000 ) people died .
USA killed around 180 ,000 civilian . In Vietnam .
USA killed 500 ,000 civilian in Iraq .
And goes on ( Afganistan , syria , Yemen , Iraq ,etc .
And you quote about terrorism 😐
We dont believe in allies, we believe in partnerships
Yes and we also belive in saying other countries betrayed us when they don't help us in our time of need
@@prateeksharma6706If those "Other countries" you mentioned were supposed to be allies or partners, then what you just stated is the definition of betrayal.
The United States ought to view all nations as equals, rather than as entities to be exploited for their own advantages. They should cease financial aid to Pakistan, which allegedly contributes to cross-border terrorism in India through the purchase of weapons.
Amazing that the sanctions regime against Russia is affected by India purchasing oil from Russia but it's not impacted by European purchase of Oil and Gas from Russia in larger quantities compared to India.
*Two important rule in Geopolitics*
Rule no. 1 - Never ever trust USA
Rule no. 2 - don't forget Rule no. 1
Come on we are 1.4 billion country, 7th largest by area, 3rd largest by military, 5th largest by economy how could we be allies we are partners
India is already a superpower
Are you an Indian
@@bestofwildlife8880 Yep
Is US still a super power😂. French media is living in a wonderland.
India 🇮🇳 is peace with business brilliance 🎉
We know what happens to US Allies, nobody wants to be a serf or vassal of US
Absolutely, why would Indians want to struggle like the Canadians, Germans, Dutch, Japanese, etc.?
What are talking about, you mean you want serfs and vassals Indian we see how you treat your farmers. So one shouldn't talk about something you know nothing about.
@Madame702 What about the European farmers? Or the American or Canadian small farmers who got bought out by the mega corporations?
@@oyondey2 Fun fact: 95% of American farms are family-owned.
@@Madame702 Still Indian farmers are in better position then EU farmers.
World's largest democracy India should become permanent member of UNSC 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
No
Yes
@@ajjony4866 Immigrants are coming to colonize uk and America
china's dominance has helped India's strategic change immensely. forty years of non alliance did not work economically or politically for us but the power shift to china and the last ten years of modi has come about at the same time. for the first time G7 dont want all eggs in one basket and India can now enter partnerships for trade and trade alone.
but we need to keep an eye on asean and an asean single currency lest they wrest that opportunity
India may be part of strategic west but not a part of political west. I doubt the former too.
“Learn from the mistakes of others." - Eleanor Roosevelt:
It never fails to suprise me as to how these biased media houses have so much interest on India .just look and talk about your own backyard
India has no misconception that USA's policies give priority to human rights, democracy and international rules.
Full Allies = new name for colony
😅
Both of them need each other but just can't trust each other
India did what was best for its people, that's all. India is providing help to Ukraine as well. Remember that India is highly dependent upon oil and cannot risk its economic growth and push millions in poverty. US could have provided India cheaper oil, but it didn't. US wants to sell oil at higher prices in the name of war. EU got totally screwed due to high natural gas prices, and their economy has further fallen. First COVID and then this war ... Really terrible for the whole world. Plus, China has been trying to occupy India's territory but neither EU nor US supported India.
Nice
It's a bilateral relationship and nothing else 🙏
India's slogan is Vasudhev Kutumbkam, it means this world is our family.
Friends and allies don't backstab...US does 😡
India's slogan is Vasudhev Kutumbkam, it means this world is our family.
This world is our family and India will become its most powerful leader who will develop everyone along with it. India is a responsible country and we Indians believe in walking together with everyone. India is now going to lead the world in this century.
Jai Hind 🇮🇳✊
Jai hind 🇮🇳
Nah it doesn't mean that
U wouldn't even see pak as family anyway
There is a saying in geopolitics, " never trust America."👍👍👍
India & U.S. would have been friends long back, had it not been for the British in India & our independence from England thereafter . . . soon after 1947 India was being looked at as an adversary to U.S. & more so when India was no longer a part of Britain . . . and as we all know Britain was & still is the quintessential ally of the U.S. . .
High table???.. dude we r planning our own party
People forget the fact that US allies are small countries compared to the US - UK, Germany, Australia, Canada, etc are small countries. India is a very large country. We will be friends with US, but not its ally.
"Allies" I think that word buried long back after WW2.
Indians are everywhere 😊
indain sovereignty is hard earned .
we dont want to lose it
In simple word, We Indians dont take Order , Jai Hind 🇮🇳
India and France are partners and friends. Both countries value their freedom, internal openness and unique identity. Neither is interested in unnecessary hostility against anyone else. So what's the problem?
What is this fasination on the term allies by West countries interest r dynamic it's changes with time
India 🇮🇳 🤝 🇷🇺 Russia
Actually France is as close to an ally as India has right now
India wants to sit at high table ?? India is making its own table bro,
We are not just friendly to India but to all nations that’s “ freedom and humanity “.
The relationship between India and the US is better than the one between French and the US
India and France are also good friends.
Simple. Because India has a brain
We are not friends but friends with benefits. It’s a mutually beneficial arrangement.
India and usa can never be full allied since they are living ocean apart and big cultural and historical difference. Only thing they have is common interest in geopolitics. Some time that could get in way when usa lectures hunman rights and calls india a hindu nationalist country.
A World Map 🗺️ literally shows why India 🇮🇳 has to be a Global “Independent” and have good relations with its neighbours as well as the West.
Becoz India is neither self centered, hypocrat or opportunist...
The reason - 1971 indo-pakistan war for Bangladeshi independence. Henry Kissenger's actions made it impossible for india and usa to be allies.
India will be Top 3 economies by 2030. None can ignore INDIA! 🇮🇳
Why is the person speaking anonymously not seen?
I think France is Good for India
I think, Our INDIA is a Mediator of The 🌍 World as well, We have a Strong relationship across the Globe, that is why Every nation Think Our suggestions before taking any Steps.🙏🙏
India should maintain friendship with Mother Russia!
Once India becomes a Hindu culture, Modi will be comfortable to be a Western country.
India has its own table😊
Is US still a super power😂. French media is living in a wonderland.
ONE ONLY GETS THINGS WHEN ONE PUTS HIS FOOT DOWN.
Because unlike France , India is a sovereign country . India fought for its freedom from the British for 200 years , where as Americans had to fight for the freedom of France after it surrendered to the Nazis .
That's how non alignment works 🇮🇳🇮🇳♥️♥️👍🏻👍🏻
India is a sovereign nation unlike countries in the US. India has an independent foreign policy, its own allies and adversaries. Israel is an ally of India and we are aligned along with the US in this matter. Russia is an ally and just because the US sees it as an adversary doesn't mean such is the case with India. Nobody in India is crying over the US sending military equipment to Pakistan in the form of Aid.
When you meant ally... You don't mean as an all weather partner... You meant satellite state... And we'll never be that... On the contrary, we'll offer one better... You be ours😂
Indians can think independantly!
Double game by us is the biggest hurdle for this partnership
We believe in partnership but not on allies
There is nothing called "close friends" in geo politics ! They agree on certain things and disagree on others! If a country is agreeing on eveythig that another country says, then it a colony!
America not A Trustable partener of India that's many Indians thinking but ( Russia, France & Israel ) they are very good strategic partner of India
Why don't the west understand,
India has not forgotten the humiliation and danger produced by West by openly supporting Pakistan during wars with India.
Only Russia Supported us. It was fight for survival.
Dr. s Jaishankar - We are not allying with anyone here but standing on our own grounds.