Copa America Has Gone Too Far
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US police is famous for their ability to deescalate situations.
Yeah, they think there job is not to die in a job related accident. Police officer is not a particularly dangerous job in the US
U clearly don’t know what’s been going non in Charlotte lately, much more pressing matters than a soccer game
If only all the fans were carrying glocks this could've been avoided
Honestly, I am surprised cops didn't jump into that situation. They normally love to beat on minorities.
@@aaronsanders4122do you think the police need to choose only one thing to care about, and everything else doesn't matter?
Euros: fans running on the pitch
Copa America: Players running onto the stands
Are you sure it wasn't AI? There is no way that Darwin Nunez landed that punch on target.
The wilder the punch, the more likely it hit.
@@abm5119nah, it's Darwin Núñez, he ain't hitting s***
sure couldnt find the goal 😂
Can't hit the side of a barn let alone swing a good punch.
i see (read) what you did there, good comment fella' xD
A missed opportunity to title this video "Copa America has gone South"
Who could have guessed a game between Colombia and Uruguay would involve this kind of altercations???? Truly a mystery!
Can’t blame charlotte either with what’s going on here lately
IDK when I think of feuding LatAm countries my thoughts don't go to Uruguay-Colombia 😂
@@aaronsanders4122bot
@@aaronsanders4122this brawl has nothing to with the city
Uruguayans are the most peaceful of the Conmebol countries lmfao
These Zealand videos remind me of those scientific videos in 360p from like Antartica or smth like that.
Spot on 😭 soon we’ll get an upload with the lights flickering.
just another regular day in South American football
Fr
yeah, that's why the US stadiums are awfully unprepared to deal with latino fans
Nothing to be proud of
@@Not_Sal not really, but they knew the nature of the beast before opening the gates. Why did they host the copa america?
@@TkokatMoney!
Uruguay is famous for pinching players back and instigating fights, that's what happened.
Uruguay played really bad, they tried to win the foul match and lost and inmediatly after the end tried to fight the colombian players. It's not a problem of hooligans, is a player problem.
This copa américa was made in the usa because they had better infrastructure. But so far we saw awful fields, awful security, awful referiing and high ticket prices.
Conmebol is responsible for the refs and ticket pricing. Everything else is ussf, as you can see everything is shit. Both suck.
@@dodovolcano ehm arent the ticket sales and pricing the decisions of the individual stadiums?
I think it was held in the USA because there were more profits to be made. Clearly, policing was not factored into the costs!
I thought brawls post-match were a standard CONMEBOL procedure..? Can imagine the bosses of CONMEBOL be like, "And?" upon being told of this situation.
on the one hand, yes, however... police in south america are known to kick you off the stadium in order to avoid legal problems... you can kill each other outside
CONMEBOL higher ups were probably waiting for this to happen. I know I was.
Calmest Libertadores game be like:
Bro as a Brazilian myself lemme tell you smth... EVERY FKN GAME against Uruguay is a war... you either go to war against them or theyll kick the shit outta you 😂. It has been like that for literally a century at least. They're famous for this.
The Charrúa attitude🇺🇾🇺🇾🇺🇾
@@gabeknight8710 No talent attitude...
@@henry247no talent? 😂 sounds like a butthurt fan from a country that got piped by Uruguay at some point
Bem fudido voltou pra casa ne? 😂😂 agora entendo a dor de cu com Uruguay 🤫🇺🇾
It’s not just Uruguay though… and they had a very valid reason this time
You missed the part where Rodrigo Bentancur threw something to the Colombian fans, missed, and hit an Uruguayan fan instead. The players, or at least some of them, definitely hold a part of the blame.
This is Conmebol, the same thing happened in Brazil during the match against Argentina last year..
Lessons learned. You need separated rival fans, families need to be in corporate boxes not put in-between rival fans and there needs to be far more security. Darwins family was already moved and safe when he rushed into the crowd just when things were calming down. Not sure if you missed it but Rodrigo Bentancur threw a glass bottle at the fans but ended up hitting a Uruguay staff member resulting in some nasty injuries.
Security failed big time in this incident. Someone, whether it was CONMEBOL or BEST Crowd Management, the security provider at Bank of America Stadium, dropped the ball as far as communicating potential post-match issues. As someone who worked field security at all three Copa matches in Houston, we absolutely were briefed by our managers and CONMEBOL about potential issues which would pop up before we were deployed to our posts. So, either CONMEBOL didn't pass this information along or BEST didn't pay attention. Regardless of who's playing, the first thing we pushed for after the match was for added security staff at the field stairs post-match to make sure we didn't have any supporters jumping onto the pitch or players rushing into the stands.
if núñez landed that chair throw, i genuinely think it would've become deadly. shoutout the security on the field 😭
Nunez literally playing dynasty warriors with the crowd
Darwin Nunez was throwing punches but most of them missed. The story of his life.
Nunez is becoming a stormtrooper, he always miss his target
i can see it now: organised football hooligan leagues. 10 match seasons and a playoff round. state conferences. national teams. regional challenge tournaments. a world cup of drunken brawling. the zealand cup ...
In a strange way I`d find that a thing of beauty if it was televised.
Watching the gene pool strengthen in real time. I imagine fatalities would ensue from this.
Edit. ps. Just thought, if The Darwin Awards could really monetise themselves, they`d be an excellent sponsor.
your example has more relegation and promotion possibility than the MLS
It already existed in poland if i remember right, TFC was the name
This was just England in the 1980s
@@miche1df yes, well, they also "invented" football, and we have all seen the "advantage" that has given them over the years, haven't we ...? 😏
This entirely seems like a Uruguay problem because the players literally went into the stands
I think most people don’t realize that you are wearing the Cantona shirt and the signature collar specifically for this particular video Zealand hahaha
It's a British and Irish Lions shirt
He wore this shirt for the video earlier today
@@tomblakemoremusic you can see why he would think its a manu shirt,i meant its red and.. yeah thats about it, plus the famous Cantona flying kick was in a black shirt anyways.
@@MrCatters.yeah, my bad, I thought this looked like a Man U shirt, but I’m glad you got my point hahaha
They said "come up here" and they came up there.
I think it's obvious CONMEBOL let the American promoters handle the security and to be fair, I don't think we've had a mosh-pit brawl like that involving players at a major sporting event since the "Malice at the Palace" back in 2004. Americans get flak but we just don't really do this shit at sporting events. It's too damn expensive to go in the first place to have to post bond on top of it.
The same thing happened in Brazil vs. Argentina last year. Remember that video of Emi Martinez stealing that police officer's baton to stop him attacking Argentina fans?
I don't know what you're on about Zealand. This is the average football game in Latin American and South American Countries.
I was joking. This isn't meant to be taken seriously, but tbh this is the common type of fan culture in these leagues so it really doesn't affect me
Argentino here, you're not wrong lmao
True Mexicans also get crazy at events and start fighting which is just a bad reflection on everyone lol
There's a reason football matches in Argentina have been home team fans only for years...
@@Nadia1989 and don't most stadiums have a 20 foot fence around the field?
@@blackwatch6649 Yup. Also multiple security checks and police in riot gear on match day.
And sometimes that's not enough.
Personally I think the fight is unacceptable but also I am proud of the Rough and Tough western hemisphere unlike European teams England who stole a spot in the Euro by taking a dive and getting a penalty kick. Fouls that Euro players who act like they lost a leg to draw out a fouls in the Copa America the players pop right up and play on.
Honestly though the european teams are more skilled then most the Copa America teams, this year the Copa America games have been more exciting.
What if, and hear me out, it didn't go far enough?
The Uruguayan squad was more violent during the match than after it.
Their strategy is literally make their players taking turns on beating players of the other team until getting an yellow card. With 5 subs, it's a guaranteed street fight from beginning to the final whistle.
don’t blame only the colombian fans, it’s very likely that the uruguayans were talking smack as well. shame on everyone involved
"copa america has gone too far"
Always have been...
Nunez is reaching for Cantona's glory.
I like this man talking about football...it's good.
Uruguay players started it
Fxck around and find out 😂
insane amount of wasted time allowed in the game
Not defending the Colombians but what exactly shame on them for? For celebrating throwing beers out? I've seen numerous videos of the incident and the ones that started the punches were the Uruguayans, and I get it they were heated, they lost and in that environment full of Colombians, they couldnt handle the pressure and went off on the colombians, even people from AUF were throwing things down at the colombians from up in Their suites.
I know this is not what you want to see, but there is a lot of responsibility in the way tickets are sold here in the US, everybody is mixed and that just adds to the chaos
This is why opposing fans are not allowed to sit tgt.
I love these proper 720p discussions
Zealand has apparently never heard of south americans
Sadly this happens often in South America. And Conmebol do nothings to fix it.
this and they also do nothing against racist acts, especially if the target is Brazilian fans in the Libertadores when there is a Brazilian team playing
You know the organized football hooligan fighting thing actually happens right?
You are one of the best ranters in the world.
Jimenez also is the one that says they’re saving there families. Yet family is no where in the video. Darwin throws chair is very instigating for the crowd
There's tons of videos of their families which he literally said in the video
@@coralpilledThere's videos of the Uruguay fans throwing food and bottles and the first punches as well, yet this guy is just "shame on the Colombian fans."
I dont trust the ppl blaming the Colombian fans until theres solid proof they were actually attacking Uruguayan families. Until then, this is just Uruguay being sore losers as always
“The world cup won’t be planned out like Copa America.” Okay… you lost me there buddy.
?? Its literally an entirely different federation doing the planning and preparing, of course it will be different.
@@SeahawksFan-gv6ep I’m just kidding. His intention was to say the World Cup wouldn’t feature the crazy off the pitch antics that Copa has, which I personally think is a great part of the tournament in an ironic way. I feel like it’s also a bit hypocritical because when a crazy moment happens in Euro, it never gets talked about, but when the afcon or Copa has such a moment, it’s a criticism of the entire continent. But just trynna keep it light hearted here.
FIFA court doesn't mess around. Fifa court will throw your ass in jail, skipping trails
sort of reminds me of the simpsons episode where soccer is brought to the u.s. and after a bunch of passing the ball, a huge fight breaks out in the crowd, and the players get involved as well
I wondered through the whole competition why fans were intermingled. If the US wants to host these competitions, they need to be better prepared.
Nuñes should definitely get a ban. He only escalates the situation, instead of calming people down. Lost all my respect.
Defending his family are you completely dumb someone threatens your child or teammates children your gunna protect them
Uruguayans
If its not biting or handball it's boxing 😂
Zealand, tough news, this is latinamerican football (not defending this stupid behaviour BTW). Sadly CONMEBOL won't care unless the US forces CONMEBOL by not allowing them to have another copa america in US soil.
All CONMEBOL cares about is all the extra money playing in the US gets them. Threaten to hit 'em in the pocket book.
Fighting belongs in gyms among friends
I’m just imagining a bunch of football fans lining up “Gangs of New York” style n just going nuts🤣🤣
I really don't think you can fully ban fans without a severe punishment for Nuñez and maybe more. If that behavior is unacceptable from fans it's 10 times as unacceptable from players, and throwing a chair into the stands and then trying to fight fans has to be punished extremely harshly or else it will be okay for players to do. how would nuñez handle a game played in Colombia??
in my opinion he should be banned for at least a year. but thats just me.
average CONMEBOL match also american security sucks
How the whole pack just cowers backwards once Darwin starts popping off 🤣
One of my questions has finally been answered, would another malace at the palace ever happen and would cell phone recording affect it? And as we can see in this video, yes. It seems not as many fans got involved in the fight because they decided to record it instead, whereas back in 2004, people didn't have smart phones so they got involved by either fighting or trying to break it up.
Screw xG, I want to hear about Darwin's xCS (expected Chair Shots).
I'm not tryna victim blame. But after the match before the players took to the stands the uruguayan players where fighting with the colombian players on the pitch. I think things got out of hand here.
One thing good to come out of this is that in Miami for the final there is going to be more police and security than fans in the stadium(an exaggeration but not by much)
miami people are weak no fights will happen in the final lol miami is a luxury city for rich
Tbf bringing american police in to calm a situation down doesn't seem overly logical either
I wonder how many of them were cops and how many were security. Either way, someone failed to have enough security and/or police for a match like this.
Brazilian or Mexican police would be much better
USSF doesn't understand soccer culture outside of the US, thus they don't know how to staff this stuff. Neither do the US Football stadiums.
A big issue with any international tournament is cultilure clash. What is deemed culturally acceptable in some places is not in others. Educational levels etc also play a factor. It's the same reason multiculturalism doesn't work in so many countries. Sad but true.
Again, welcome to Copa América. I love your videos, Zealand, but you really seem to not know how Conmebol teams work.
Part of it too is how America doesn’t separate fans like they do in Europe. It’ll be a big problem in the World Cup
It makes sense that Darwin can only hit the target when it's arms length away from him
Look, with all due respect, you are in a room, acclimatized, I imagine quiet and comfortable. It's very easy, in your position, to ask Darwin to "de-escalate" a bunch of drunk men, at the end of 90 minutes of high intensity on the field, in which his team was still eliminated.
US seems perfectly ready for a World Cup.
To me it looks like uruguay players provoke all that stuff then being victims
the 2008 Man Utd-Chelsea champions league final in Moscow was organized best imo - there were two separate subway stations for two halves of the stadium and there was no way of getting to the other part of the stadium in less than 30 mins in public transport/walking, cause fencing. all this because of the perceived inbound english hooligan threat lol, riot shields all around just in case
The "group A meets group B to fight" thing has been happening around Vienna recently (it's not related to football, it's basically gang fights, Russians vs Syrians apparently) and it is a huge problem because the people who get wounded there still have to be taken care of and there is almost always collateral damage. So no, even that is not okay.
0:44 "Not indicative of any problems at the 2026 World Cup" ... except for the fact that security provided by BEST Crowd Management at Bank of America Stadium did a pretty bad job of post-match crowd control.
What's the difference between this and what Eric Cantona did?
That's why you don't have to sell beer in a stadium full of hot blooded FUTBOL fans.
The game was a well deserved 1-0 to Colombia.
What happened after the game is the sum of organizational errors, forgetting because alcohol is not sold at soccer matches in many countries in South America, not knowing how to handle defeat and for those who are not used to it, not knowing how to handle victory.
The thing about the Uruguayan players, as much as it bothers me, continues to be an educational problem, players who come from critical contexts and who do not know how to act up to the role they have and what they represent.
I'm not saying that they won't go in to defend their relatives, what I'm saying is that once their relatives were already on the playing field, they should have turned around and forgotten about all those people, because in the end those who are going to sanction and those who are going to miss out on improvements in their contracts, are going to be them and not the unknown Colombian fans.
Thank you for your point of view in the video.
Damn still no proof that family's were actually at risk
Copa América loco has gone far beyond
I think we cud see this coming, Uruguay are kings of the shit housery & the Columbians weren’t gonna take a backwards step. I’m ok with Darwin & the players helping the families, that mess was mostly on the organisers.
I know FIFA and CONXAF are locing this as it only further adds more eye balls to the product and attention. It's sad.
man realistically, i have to say this, i went to a game costa rica vs uruguay, 2014 world cup, they lost, and everybody wanted to fight, uruguayans love a fist fight mate, and suarez was the instigator, trying to say how one should celebrate a semi final win to lead you country to a chance of silverware thats been in the making for a long time is not a good idea, no one there has cockroach blood dude.
I was so surprised to not see the cops in riot gear.
Maybe it’s just me but I don’t remember the 2016 Copa America being as dirty and violent as this current one
I'm not even watching the news at this point. I'm watching this videos and that's it
Conmeball needs to leard that, sadly, we cant have both fans in the same part of the stadium. Because these things will always happen.
CONMEBOL be like “let the Americans handle the crowds we have lost control of decades ago.”
They’re going to have to learn how to organize better before the World Cup… you have 2 years
Darwin should’ve saved his energy for the actual game
more police is never the answer
Bruh, I’m sorry but I can’t agree with this take. This is misinformed or at least, has a significant lack of information. Do you know who is in charge of security at the stadiums and surrounding the stadiums? It isn’t Conmebol, they are only allowed to borrow the stadium. It’s the stadiums owners! The lack of respect the stadiums owners have for Conmebol arranged the deal so that only they are in charge of organization, and they don’t even allow access to all sections of it. Blaming Conmebol, as much as they are an inept organization, is not the right thing to do in this situation.
US Fans cannot admit their country has been half-assing the entire competition, both on and off the pitch. They are just hoping the country takes the World Cup more seriously at least
Luv it🙃
To be honest, I love this
In 2022 in a match between Queretaro and Atlas in the Mexican First Division a horrible fight broke out, and I remember hearing that 17+ people died there, and way more people seriously injured, they where brutally beat up, and a lot of nasty stuff happened I dont want to say in a comment
Jimenez was racially abusing and mocking Sanchez hair. And you can’t give yellow for that so he just restored the order.
@@nicolasvelez8500 you can in fact get a red card for making racist comments.
Hooliganism in America yeaaahh
This happens everywhere man. Europe/UEFA PR is honestly just undefeated. It’s just for the love of the game over there. Hooligans are just passionate fans. What happened after the last euro was just a public display of passion between two brotherly countries.
Obviously I think it’s bad that the players are in there throwing out haymakers and the kids being stuck in the fighting. I think it looks bad when earlier this year or last year you had Argentina v Brazil v Cops in a tornado triple threat and they’ve done nothing ever to fix the security.
Unfortunately SA/Conmebol/USA don’t have the European PR firm so they can’t just paint over this with a coat of passion. But the biggest takeaway is please people don’t disrespect entire nations of people because of a few idiot people
Edit: I don’t even want to bring light to it, but let’s not ignore the insane amount of EXTREMELY casual racism just flowing throughout this euro
USA having trouble on media management seems outlandish.
It's quite uncommon to have players fighting the attendance in Europe.
When it happens in Europe it’s called out as well… At least it is by sensible folks. Not sure what media you’re watching lol.
Also there’s comments on this video saying the same thing about South American football. “Oh it’s just passion. Tradition. It’s what makes South American football great.” Etc. Which is true to an extent lol so let’s not pretend like this issue isn’t more prevalent in South America.
Two words explain this "South America"
You think this doesn´t happen in Europe?
I guess those dutch and english fans thrashing a restaurant prior to the Euro semifinal were all south americans in disguise...
@@mikhaildas Ive never seen a striker in europe jump into the crowd and start throwing haymakers lol
@@tomasmaniago5832 yeah because thats totally the same
@@tyciol9543 you should watch more it seems you started watching football yesterday. Is easy to find footage.
The amount of professional and college events that happen in the US is almost every other day and most of them have altercations, I been to stadiums from Boston to San Francisco, and I seen fights everywhere its not only a conmebol problem
Tamagotchi can also be frustrating and lead to violence so maybe woodwork
Z looks like he's on a run and is now recording his video diary before the inevitable happens.
As a European I can say that we need a lot of police for the euros because there are still a lot of geopolitical disagreements, post war tenssions between a lot of countries (especially balkan’s), we also had english and russian Holigans so yeah we are more prepared. And yeah at the euro the first team fans are on one side and the other team fans are on the other side, they are seperate. And that made me think about the riots in Brasil at the beginning of the game between Brazil and Argentina, they mixed the fans in the stadiums just as Comebol would have done if that game existed, and that was pure chaos out there. So yeah they definitely need to look at euros.
Game’s so back
Stay classy football fans.
it was just a regular libertadores match
Just using this video to see who isn't playing against Canada on Saturday.
MALICE AT THE PALACE