Vienna's Missing Metro Line
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2020
- Why is there a line missing from Vienna's metro network? Let me explain.
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Austrian Version: czcams.com/video/mpiap7RnL4Y/video.html
Austrian? Isn't it the same thing as German or I just don't know what it is?
@@hexa3389 don't go down that route please
@@theguy2193 rabbit hole goes brrrr. Seriously I'm searching it up right now.
It's Austrian dialect.
@@hexa3389 yea it's great to educate yourself. It's honestly nice and refreshing to see this side of CZcams.
You know, no pointless arguing and hate, just respect and curiosity.
This has no effect on my life, yet now the fact that there is no U5 will now bother me until it is complete. Thanks, tapa.
Mission Accomplished.
@Sardeed Patreon
It's actually the same in Augsburg. Tram line 5 is still missing, planned to be built in the near future... for 20 years already. xD
In Milan we have the metro lines M1, M2, M3, and M5
@@diocanaja Here in Munich we have S1 through S8, but no S5. We have U1 to U8 though.
I have never been to Vienna, nor Austria, nor Europe, this will never effect me, but you alone have made me interested in the metro System of Vienna due to your talent in making videos, You deserve to be proud of that
hello from vienna btw
Hello from austria you should come here its nice. We invented red bull and started 2 world wars. Were the cooler version of switzerland. What more do you want?
@@mayonster4798 Where in Austria would you recommend I visit? I'm planning a trip to Europe next year
@@joemiller947 vienna is pretty nice but if you prefer a smaller city id go to graz and if you want some mountain action i reccomend anywhere in tyrol or salzburg
@@mayonster4798 Thank you Sir!
You're like the Jay Foreman of Vienna, making me care way too much about a city I've never been to and likely never will.
That is a big compliment. Thanks!
Wow i love Jay foreman and i am viennese. This is the most on point compliment ever!
Not only Jay Foreman my friends. Thanks to Geoff Marshall I'm almost in love with the London Tube system
@@pixoontube2912 He's more similar to Jay Foreman in the sense that he talks about various topics, while Geoff is all about them trains.
I hope you do make it. It's magical.
Now that the U5 is actually being built, the viennese urban legend is sadly going to dissapear :c
Only if they actually complete it.
Tapakapa Imagine completing your tunnel project on time.
*this post was made by Stuttgart21 gang**
Let's just call the new line U7. Chaos shall reign once more.
Don’t worry, it‘s gonna take another 500 years until that actually happens
It will not Vienna remembers, also when Saint Stephens we have a 661 and cunting track record of not fishing something to the point where always been like that, stays like that kicks in
São Paulo also has had so many missing lines... Line 3 came before line 2; line 5 came before line 4; lines 7-12 were ancient 19th century cargo lines converted to commuter rail.. We still don't have lines 6 and 14, despite already having a line 15.
That's the reason why we call them by their colors rather than by the numbers.
You got that many clearly distinguishable colors? Or are they different shades then, like scarlet and wine or something?
@@Tapakapa en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A3o_Paulo_Metro
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Companhia_Paulista_de_Trens_Metropolitanos
The train lines get the names of rare stones but, personally, I don't use them very much (one of their main purposes is to connect municipalities, so they go further away from the center of the city and extend to neighboring municipalities).
@@Tapakapa Yeah, like @Abe said, there are two rail companies: Metrô for the subway and CPTM for the commuter lines.
CPTM lines (7-13) are actually named after gems: Ruby, Diamond, Emerald, Turquoise, Coral, Sapphire, and Jade.
Metrô lines (1-6, 14, and 15) are regular colors: Blue, Green, Red, Yellow, Lilac, Orange, Golden, and Silver.
It turns out the Golden Line will actually be numbered 17. it's already under construction. Line 14 is actually something else that hasn't even started being built.
@@sohopedeco the metro itself is made of 2 operators right? Forgot which line
aaaaand that is why it should get called U7. keep the gag going. I am actually thinking about starting a petition to achieve this.
Omg please do it!!
I lived my hole life in Vienna. I really grew accustom to the missing u5. Go for it
I would sign that, no doubt about it
Hi. Viennese here.
Please do it.
Thank you.
I live like 7 years in Vienna and never recognised that there is no u5.
Thanks for the uneasy feeling!
*Tapakapa, answering all the questions you didn't have.*
Brains Applied But didn’t know you needed answered 😁
If I could, I'd give an extra like because of 2 U2 puns.
You can! Just go to Austrian version: czcams.com/video/mpiap7RnL4Y/video.html and give a like there :D
U 2 would make U2 puns, maybe even 2 of them
You too?
Imagine looking for this metro line and having someone tell you that it's missing.
I'm assuming some ghost grabbed it and stole it.
Funnily enough, Graz also has a missing tram line - 1, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 are all present and correct, but there is no tram line 2.
Im from graz and i never noticed that lmao
Then again this is Graz we're talking about so they probably did it in a futile attempt to make the city more interesting than it actually is
There used to be a tram line 2 in Graz but they closed it in the 70s
@@walterxbenjamin but my city is interesting😔😔
@@maximilianriffel3407 where was it?
In Santiago, chile, the subway had for 30 years a missing line, the line 3. Until 2018, the lines of the Santiago subway were 1,2,4,4a,5 and 6. 4a is a branch of line 4. Line 3 was in planning first in 1984, but in 1985 there was an earthquake that maked use of the funds for the line into rebuilding of the country. Suddenly, at that time there was just only lines 1 and 2, but the next line to be built was line 5, opened in 1997, being line 4 opened in 2005. In 2018 line 3 was opened and now there is order on the line numbers.
Last time I was still early, I could still travel to Vienna.
As an immigrant in Vienna I really appreciate the shade you throw at the U6!
Shade? :0
U6 is beautiful and everybody loves it ;)
@@Tapakapa Except the smell sometimes :D
@@Tapakapa "Die U6 ist die längste Geisterbahn der Welt"
If you live through u6 during corona you can survive anything
@@kissaurelio618 not thriving but definitely surviving lol
When the U5 is finished you can not make a schmäh to tell anoying turists when they ask for the way to take the U5 anymore :(
but you can tell them that the U5 is a myth and doesnt exists in reality
The stockholm metro has lines 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 18 and 19. All numbers before and between the metro lines are numbers for old trams that were discontinued when sweden swapped to right lane traffic in 1967, numbers 1 through 4 plus 6 are now used by busses.
2:45 that might have been the best franz kaida impression i have ever had the pleasure to witness
You honor me.
I swear since my childhood this has bothered me. It never actually stoped me, nor did I ever need it, nor is it something anybody else realy needs... its just... not complete...
Look at the power your channel has! They are now building a U5 thanks to your video and nothing can convince me otherwise!
U2 reference time stamps
2:00 It's a Beautiful Day
2:21 With or Without You
The U5 is still under construction, but I already hate it.
As the tunnels will go under parts of the 8th district, some of the old buildings need to get their fundament reworked.
My building was one of these buildings and so I had the joy of having workers drilling and working directly under my flat for 10 hours every day for 2 months straight.
It was impossible to sleep, work or do anything there without getting extreme headaches and now my flat has a big fat crack, as the buildings structural integrity was compromised.
So I dare to say, your last statement was wrong.
Vienna cant sleep in peace -most of vienna can, but some of us have to sacrifice their sleep for our infrastructural expansion.
Arguably thinks like your flat having a crack should be adressed by city and landlord. The U5 does fill a couple of pretty large gaps in the ÖPNV system - like Hernals or the Wienerberg, especially the latter has always been a massive headache to get to as well as giving some relief to the chronically overcrowded 13A.
So in conclusion: thank you for your sacrifice. A lot of people depend on it.
You can't expect the city to be always nice and quiet because... well, this is a *_city_*
@@horribleIRUKANDJI this is really the best city to live in on the planet !
@@walterxbenjamin To be fair there might be compensation involved for the repairs to and disruption caused by damage to the existing structure. Generally, it is frowned upon to fail to do necessary works to ensure your construction project doesn't break anyone else's property. Hell this has caused delays to tunnelling projects in a lot of cities as work had to be done to stabilise existing structures threatened by the construction.
This happens all over the world, it's a bummer it happened to you. I get the noise while they build the Elizabeth Line, but luckily no cracks.
There is an interesting video somewhere on YT about the U Bahn Bau in Frankfurt a.M. : czcams.com/video/UpExfG0ekJY/video.html , really disruptive there.
I hope everything works out for you.
Buenos Aires has the same problem, our Underground lines are named after letters. We have lines A, B, C, D, E and H. Lines F, G and even I are all planed, but construction haven't started yet. Line H was started first in 2007 because it was determined that it was the most needed as it will be the second perpendicular line of the network and will aliviate Line C.
Construction for Line F had been anounced since 2014, and every year there is a new anouncement but never happened because of the recession.
Im in Vienna right now on a trip and the metro has blown me away. So clean and on time
Buenos Aires' subway has 6 lines: A, B, C, D, E ... and H.
So, yeah. Don't worry, Vienna. You're not alone.
Cool stuff! I was in Vienna doing a semester before quarantine so this brings back fond memories of taking the U3 from Westbahnhof to Stephansplatz everyday.
we have a similar situation in Milan, the M4 is still being built. For some reason they started planning and building M5 before M4
In Helsinki, for ages, we had tram lines 1, 1A, 3B, 3T, 4, 4T, 6, 7A, 7B, 8 and 10. Then the 9 was built, 3B and 3T became the 2 and 3, the circle formed by 7A and 7B was changed to become just 7, a solid line stretching from Pasila in the north, down to West Ferry Terminal (Länsiterminaali) in the south. Then finally 4T was cut back to start at Central Railway station, so it was renumbered to 5 because it only shared a bit of line with the 4. Now we have a less confusing tram numbering system.
you do a really good job on portraying viennas little quirks (the stations of u6, ppl puking in that line from time to time) -> really enjoyable!
Very lovely made!
Greetings from Vienna
Here in Melbourne, Australia, we’re building huge extensions to our underground train network. It has completely changed the face of the city and will do for a few more years I think, at least. (Or we were building, prior to covid etc etc)
Awesome to know Vienna and Melbourne have another thing in common. Not just whipping every other city’s bum in the most liveable ranks hahaha!
Plus - I’m sure I’m not the first one to notice Australia and Austria are quite similar. It’s like we were made to be kindred spirit cities.
Plus Melbourne got the biggest tram network in the world, but Vienna is still one of the biggest. I think number 4 or 5.
Onkel Jajus Bahn Yes! USA USA USA! Oops I mean Australia Australia Australia! Don’t you hate it when syllables ruin a chant
@@skunkrat01 But you can still chant it. Haha.
can you please give a few examples?
Fun fact parts of the United states interstate system ARE STILL NOT BUILT DESPITE BEING AUTHORIZED IN THE 50S. I69 is supposed go to Indianapolis and meet up with its loop but they still haven't bridged over the Ohio and that's just the nice number Interstate.
Same thing for Milan (both tram and metro) There's a M1,M2,M3,M5 but the M4 is in construction,and for the trams are 1,2,3,4,5,7,9,10,12,14,15,16,19,24 and a 179,(it's considered a Interurban tram line,it's the last one to survive in Milan),obviously,there used to a 28/29 line,a 23,21 and ecc... and the M4 was planned many decades ago but a Turn of the Millennium after it was constructed
Please upload more frequently about anything I just enjoy your content!
Discovered this channel today. Already subscribed and watched almost all the videos
I’ve been in Vienna only once but I fell in love with the city and with Austria, and I’m planning to visit it again as soon as possible after the pandemic. Love your zoo :D
I love your videos about Wien transit, thank you very much!
I didn’t know or have to know this, but I do now. And I’m glad.
Wow, this video has great topic and I like video illustration there. It is awesome work! :) Well done.
I thought you were a CGP Grey clone at first, but after watching your videos I changed my mind. Welcome to my list of favorite youtubers!
In Gothenburg Sweden our tram systems has 12 lines. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11 and 13. No 12
Du machst an super Job, bravo! Sehr gute Videos, sowohl auf Deutsch, als auf Englisch.
Love your stuff as always!
Hasn't anyone else noticed that he is using cgp grey's style
as we all know grey trademarked stick figures back in 2016 but creators can work with the grey industries global entertainment ventures group to license them
@@alexgodfrey1262 Know Stigfigures where painted by XKCD in 2005. The legally of the Use of them is in a Legal grey aria for know since grey entertainment is the defendant in legal battle a whether it qualifies as fire use under it being video and therefore bing a transformative work. The south has gone one since 2012 but ther sadly like U5 seems no and insight. With things like Head shape, Angel joints and the context of the Stickfiger being discussed.
You just gotta love these amazing CGP Grey videos.
I was thinking about Falco earlier today, oddly enough.
As everybody should.
OMG! I remember my first U2 moment when I was showing Vienna to my American friend and he started singing „I can’t live with or without you.“ I told him to shut up and stand next to the sign because it’s not every day you can get a photo with U2! Then we took astax back to his hotel… 😂😂😂
Actually, even if Vienna is pretty big, you can literally go to most places on foot. I live in the 6th district and don't even take half an hour to the 1st, 4th, 5th, 12th and probably more districts (I rarely go to others).
It's quite convenient for people who like taking long walks on their days off.
Rika H. As you said.. most places. Try to go to 21st 22nd by foot :D
@@kristiandoychev2449 Easily doable, it just takes time. I've walked from Kahlenburg to the 1st district before. Or from Kagran on the U1 back to the first as well. You just need to have an afternoon off.
They should call it u7 just to troll
When Vienna calls, you answer it!!! That's what I have always said.
That's on you for calling Falco.
Vienna has amazing public transportation and yes, going through Vienna listening to Falco is amazing! It is as if the music made even more sense.
Something in Italy like this exists, the metro of Milan. Five metro lines, yet there is no M4. Luckily M4 was announced a few years later :)
We have a similar story in Chile. Santiago built its metro lines in a weird way, so it was: Line 1, Line 2, Line 5, Line 4, Line 4A, Line 6, and Line 3.
My second favorite question answering stick boi.
Zanko Damn now I gotta know who the first is!! Sam O’nella perchance? Or casually explained? Damn, didn’t realise we had so many question answering stick bois.
@@skunkrat01 Obviously number 1 is CGP Grey. Number 2 is Tapa, Number 3 is Sammy. There is a ton more.
Servus aus Kanada. I was surprised to see U4 under heavy renovation this past fall. I hadn't been back in a long time so it was strange to see. I'm normally around Wien Mitte anyway so it wasn't a huge diversion but nonetheless a good sign. Surely I'll be back before U5 is done, thanks for the info and keep up the good work.
Often wondered about that missing line. I remember when there was Autobus, Straßenbahn, and Stadtbahn. While I was on a scholarship at Univ of Vienna I remember the digging for the U1 in front of St. Stephens. There apparently was an old graveyard in front of the cathedral because they had skulls lined up against the cathedrals as they dug. I suspect the church/state were taking care of the reburials. Always quite a construction mess in front of the cathedral. When I returned to Vienna again more than 10 years later, I was able to use the U-bahn system. It was really a great addition to already good public transit. I just wish they would finish the U2 rework.
Manila also has this problem. The first constructed line was Line 1, then 3, 2, (under construction) 7, 9, 4. Then there's the problem of line 3 (an LRT line) being named MRT-3 and line 2 (heavy rail) named LRT-2
If a tourist asking for directions is particularly anoying you tell them that they need to take U5.
Interesting. In my German hometown Dresden there you have the tram lines 1-13 but without the 5 such as in Vienna. I thought there would be a greater reason, like the missing 13th row on airplanes
Nice video and it is true that the term metro was first used 1968 but the stadtbahn wich opend in 1898 was in fact a metro to transport alot of people in vienna even befor the metro.
In The Netherlands the RET got some tramlines missing. The use:
2, 4, 7, 8, 12(during events by The Kuip and Sparta), 20, 21, 23, 24 and 25.
Lot of the lines they upgrade to a Tramplus thing, that drives faster and often than normal lines. Als line 10 is used by the museum.
That can explain a little bit why there is no 1, 3, 5, 6, 9 and 13 to 19
A very similar thing happened in Montreal, with the lines being numbered 1,2,4,5, but everyone just calls the lines by their colours so no one notices it. There were plans for lines 3,6&7 and funnily enough the new LRT under construction is similar to the plan for line 3.
The same thing happened with Milan, there were 5 lines planned, M1 through 5, but due to delays M4 is still under construction
In Wuppertal the suspension railway ("Schwebebahn") has the number 60... so it's missing 59 lines? 😂
Amsterdam had this too, for ages there was metro 50, 51, 53 and 54. They only finished line 52 like a year ago.
Same with Metro of Santiago de Chile. Line 1, line 2, line 5, line 4, line 4a... line 3 was recently added.
In fact: There was a logo of cubic U2 and small U5 in one of U2 corners and it also takes some stations of U2 (Rathaus, Volkstheater, Museumsquartier and Karlsplatz) to build U5
Man I was looking for this!
I have bin in the OLD U5 tunnels, i was unter the hundertwasser papierfabrik(?), it is used vor the Fernkälte-anlage. So the tunnels do exist (kind off)
good to know that the u5/u2 construction/restructuring would cut my way to school in half...sucks that it's only gonna be done in a few years
Vienna is such a beautiful city, I wish I could visit again :(
I went to Vienna in January. It was a really cool city.
As someone who has never, and unfortunately probably will never travel to Vienna, I can’t wait.
The Einzelhaft cover recreation ahahaha! I love that
One of these pieces of information you never asked for, then thought "that is odd", but with a bit of research actually makes sense.
We have a similar problem in milan we have the M1, M2, M3 and M5 the M4 has not yet been completed even though I think the problem is more along the line of "aww shoot we have just dug into an old building again... well time to change another segment"
Wait til you see almost all China city metro has some numbers missing, such as Guangzhou has relatively normal line 123456789 and then 13, 14, 21?????, APM, Guangzhou-Foshan transit.
Shenyang is more funny: 1, 2, 9, 10???
What the hell?
Next video topic ;)
Thanks tapakapa!
You're welcome, Eli.
Damn the U2 always full in the morning
U5 will not fix that
Video about Pressburger bahn would be great.
Rio de Janeiro has the same problem, we have metro lines 1,2 and 4. Lines 3 and 4 got planned at about the same time but only 4 got built. Sadly no hopes for order can be seen on the horizon.
Here in Buenos Aires we have metro lines A,B,C,D,E and H. Same reason.
I've been in vienna for 2 and a half weeks and did not notice the lack of a U5
I hadn't noticed the missing line at first, but then one of the locals told this and I was like "oh daaamn, he's right!"
Man I was really hoping this was uploaded in 2018 or something and that pandemic bit was just an amazing bit of wild guessing
awesome ! I was always wondered. and you messed with our heads changing line numbers chrnologically. Also can you do a video about USTRAB >? some old images and videos maybe where to find them ?
The Austrian CGP Grey. Your content would be great for TV. A small section before the evening news. Just imagine it oida
Munich has no S5 because it is now incorporated into the S8 line. But the S5 did exist when it was first opened in 1972 for the Munich Olympics. Some routing stuff with the S3 and S8 happened, and the airport line vetoed the decision to renumber the lines, and so for a brief period, S3 did not exist, and now the S5 does not exist because it became the S8. But the S3 has seen a revival and continues to exist
Can you maybe do a video about Bruno Kreisky? He is far too underapriciated in history around the world
You are really underrated
This is a good impression on how they assigned names to the Star Wars episodes
Stay safe Tapakapa!
Thanks, you too!
I am from Austria and still have never noticed it
1:02 I mean, it’s in the title and thumbnail, it would have been difficult to NOT notice.
...you want that damn sweet or not? ^_^
how did I in my like 6 years of living in vienna never notive that there wasn't a U5?????
plot twist: maybe tapakapa IS the u5
I should one day go to Austria after the completion of U5 and ho on every other route
In Mexico city metro lines go 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9, 12, A, B. There are reasons for the letter lines (they go out of the city limits), yet in lines 10 and 11 might never be built because of changes in the master plan.
Think some cities in China e.g. Beijing, Shenzhen have missing metro line numbers for the same reason. Shenzhen also originally didn't number their lines but named them after the places they serve I think e.g. Longhua (now Line 4), Shekou
Very interesting,thanks Kapa. U are da best
You are the Mozart
Looking at the map at the end, it doesn't seem like there would be too much of a need for U5 with the existing lines. I suppose that's why they kept on kicking it further along the lines.
Time to scout any metro or subway like to see if there are missing numbers now 😩