A Fast Low-Cost AMD Ryzen Powered Mini PC! Small Foot Print Power! EMUs, Games, Media
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- čas přidán 17. 07. 2024
- In this video we take a look at an awesome affordable AMD Ryzen Powered Mini PC. This is an HP Elitedesk 705 G4 that I recently picked up from eBay. It’s powered by the Ryzen 5 2400GE and backed by 16 GB of ram and it makes for a great little emulation, lite Gaming, and Media PC! We test out some 4K video playback, PC gaming and see how it handles some of our favorite emulators like PPSSPP for PSP, GameCube and Wii using the Dolphin Emulator, and even PS2 emulation using PCSX2 plus we do a quick Batocera test to see if it can run a stand-alone emulation front end!
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00:00-Intro
00:20-Overview
01:08-Internals
01:43-iO Overview
02:24-Specs
03:12-Windows 11 Performance
03:59-4K Video Playback Test
04:37-Benchmarks
05:03-PC Gaming Test
06:22-Emulation Test PSP PPSSPP
07:03-Gamecube and Wii Emulation Test Dolphin EMulator
07:53-PS2 Emulation Test PCSX2
08:47-Batocera EMulation Station Test
09:38-Final Thoughts
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I bought one of these from that eBay listing you posted. I'll be using it to run a demo booth of my game, Snap the Sentinel. Runs it at 4K60 on default settings! Thanks for spreading the word.
Just returned my 4K Game Stick Lite and bought this thanks to you! Can't wait to set everything up and turn it into our gaming machine 👍🏾😎
Got mine on ebay as well but with 8GB RAM
I had one of these that included WiFi and Bluetooth. I travel for my job and I used it to play War Thunder in hotel rooms. It even worked for BF1 and BF4. I just attached it to whatever TV was in the room and used a wireless keyboard and mouse. I also added an extra 500GB HDD for movies and music. I loved that little machine. It was easily transportable and I made sure to keep it in my carry-on luggage, as TSA wasn't sure what it was and went through my checked luggage whenever I packed it in my suitcase.
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Hey, thanks for taking my suggestion (if you saw it). I have this unit and am really impressed with it given the price. A couple things I noticed: the GPU can't maintain the 1240MHZ 'boost' clock and settles around 800 MHZ from what I've seen, at least in FurMark. The CPU seems to be fine-- I can get a consistent 3.45 GHZ in Prime95. Also, the CPU TDP doesn't measure the full power draw of the chip, it's limited to 35W in 'APU STAPM' from what I can tell. One other thing is that I am limited to 4K30 on this device, it uses an older DisplayPort version. The temperatures are fine though, and I've only been playing FF6 Pixel remaster on it which is not at all demanding. Hope that all makes sense as I'm a little out of my depth here.
New options like this one (and the N5105 you showcased last week) are quite helpful. Those vintage OptiPlex 3050 i5s have been gobbled up. Love your videos.
My work has a few of these PCs. Lately we've been playing Battlefront 2 on PCSX2 over lunch. Great little machine!
Another great video. Thank you four your continued content on emulation and SFF PC’s!
I had to grab one.. thanks for all the info!!
@ETA Prime
awesome vids as always
Would you mind sharing a tutorial how you do that screensaver you have?
I know its easy for the geeks, but for a regular person it might not be
thanks
Ah good I've been looking for one of those Duel dongles for a while but didn't know what to type into Amazon as it didn't always gimmie what I wanted , now I found and bought that exact one 😎👍
It’s amazing how great these used office PC’s run emulation so much better than the Pi’s . And with the price on Pi’s using a PC makes the most sense.
No offense but there's nothing amazing about a PC with a modern desktop processor beating a Raspberry Pi in emulation.
@@error4159 think he meant it's cheaper, and maybe the pi is more expensive than a pc in his country
Pi got greedy. A lot of consumers moved on and found better alternatives.
Wow this is incredible, definitely going to pick one up to use for an office setup
dude yes its perfect its small and perfect for emulation. love the content ETA keep it up ;)
Love the format of the video. Can you please test with a 4k hdr display like a TV and do a 4K hdr video on the browser as thats where most current iGPUs struggle?
Love this tiny little PCs. You can play tons of old PC games and emulators on things like this.
best form factor ever made saving a lot of space!
what's low cost nowadays? I just looked up a Pi-4, almost $200!
Good times are over. Inflation will make most of you homeless. Get ready for bad times.
@@stevemuzak8526 I'm too old for that shit, they can blam me in the face when they come to take the house.
@@stevemuzak8526 oh, and... I missed the good times?!
@@DaveSomething no, what he meant is the bad times are over, now for the even worse times.
@@thesenamesaretaken ahh, now that I understand perfectly.
Finally picked up a similar Lenovo version of this. It's great.
I tested out the G5 (with a 3200GE) last year but I managed to break it before I finished my testing! I later tried the Lenovo M75Q with the 3400GE, which I found performed pretty much the same but was very definitely power limited. Switching the Lenovo to a higher wattage (135w, I think) PSU gave far more performance from the APU. I always meant to return to the 705 G5 and see if it could be improved with a better PSU, but never got round to it.
The 705 g5, as well as the g4 have a proprietary connector. On some further digging, I found out that HP sold some models as gaming PCs, and the port was for an rx560. The part numbers are l21472-002 for the GPU and 681058-001 for the required 150w power supply. Once my power supply shows up, I'll update you on the increased performance.
@@nathanhamman418 update?
@@thetruth3346 you will need to modify the case so it can breath, and it is a severely cut down version of the 560, it's better than the igpu, but you might be better with a mini pc with a better igpu.
Hey fellow! I never tought a power brick could improve performance. I got a 705 G3 w/ A10 9700e, do you think I would benefit from a different power brick?
ur intro is always vibes
Hey ETA! When will you be getting a Steam Deck?? 🙏
I looked on eBay for this chip and saw someone had a couple Lenovo ThinkCentres for $109 shipped so I just ordered one. It didn't come with an AC adapter so I ordered one of those too-- Lenovo branded like you recommended adding $15 to the total. I can't wait to get it. Batocera is going on there until SteamOS 3 is officially released.
For anyone curious - I have one of these that I use to play Destiny 2 on sometimes, it will run D2 fine. It usually floats around 45-50 FPS on low settings, 720p with a 90% render resolution. It looks a little pixelated but it's fine since it's a secondary machine for me. If you're fine with 30 FPS you can get better resolution out of it.
I get more but it's probably because I use 3200mhz ram
I use mine for Destiny2 through STEAM...it runs soo much smoother that way.
Picked up one of these when you posted it on community page for $245 or so. 10 minutes later all gone.
Installed MXLinux. Fought BIOS, secure boot, HP automatic recovery and overheating and then amdgpu driver. Finally working on m.2 SSD.
Wow, fast compared to my 1st gen I7/GT1030 (120 to 160 watts.) With the HP, 2 1080P/60 screens, and playing 1080P/60 video the PC uses 25W and
Got one on eBay with the 2400G (not ge) for $140 with the wifi cars, 256gb NVME, PSU and W10p installed. One upgrade that comes with the 2400G is a copper CPU cooler vs aluminum, and a vented top panel vs sealed. Found one of the RX560 4g add on cards as well for $100 (not the best price for a rx560 but is for this proprietary card. This also REQUIRES the vented panel as the heat sink sumps out the top vent and is ducted), got lucky that mine came with the 150watt psu already so I didn't have to spend $50 on that. Makes a great little travel system for hotel/airbnb gaming, also used to the wife to play her puzzle/adventure games on without booting up our larger system.
Can you tell me which model you have? Edit: Nvme found it. Going to upgrade to a 2tb Nvme.
Hello, have you lien ebay for 2400g ? Thx
Hey ETA Prime! Can you start testing 4K HDR in your videos? There is a huge performance difference vs standard 4K.
Dunno why, but these things seem rare as hen's teeth in the UK. There are *loads* of SFF machines with old Intel chips in, but the Ryzen ones just can't be found, at least not at any reasonable price!
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paid £15 shipping to get mine shipped from America.
Citra possible test? Would be nice👍👀
This machine would be a perfect test bed for when SteamOS x86_64 comes out as I'm hoping that the built-in FSR implementation for the Deck will also be for PC as well. FSR scaling could help with some of the games that you played.
I can't wait to see these little one liter boxes with rDNA2 APU's just being sold at auctions for $200 lol - I want a desktop chip with rDNA2 SOOO BAD for some reason... I guess the idea of having raytracing coming from onboard graphics is just awesome... even though it will essentially be useless for any games that actually have RT because they are usually so intensive that any of the APU's with rDNA2 will just not be powerful enough to run it lol :)
Picked up a 2400g on eBay for $120 with WiFi. This things is great and even runs some switch games. Playing Mario wonder and it does pretty well with it
Would you check Chrome OS Flex? As an alternative for media consumption or android TV or even emulation (because it accepts Linux apps I believe) please! :D
This is what I use for my file server and web server, had no idea it could double as an emulator box (didn't know the Vega 11 was this good!)
I just picked up the HP Elitedesk 705 G5 Ryzen 5 Pro with the Ryzen 5 3400g apu mini pc, It comes with 16gb of crucial ddr4 2666mhz sodimm ram, 500gb samsung 870 evo sata, 256gb nvme m.2 ssd off Ebay for $173 with shipping and tax, can't wait for it to get here, thanks for the emulation machine suggestion and the awesome content you provide on your channel!
There are RX560 4gb GPU special made for this PC at around 75 USD.
Update: I recently built a sweet gaming desktop with the Ryzen 5 3400g apu from my HP Elitedesk 705 g5 mini pc since it was constantly overheating and shutting down while gaming in windows never had any issues in Batocera emulating roms however I ended up ordering from Amazon a asus prime b450m motherboard with the cooler master hyper 212 evo v2 added one of my msi rx580 8gb gpu and also got from Amazon 32 gb of ddr4 3200mhz ram, but not to lose hope on my mini gaming console i did order some arctic mx-5 thermal compound and replaced the apu with the 35w version the Ryzen 5 Pro 3400ge, hopefully i have similar performance without the 84 c° thermal crashes
I hope you will review the all new gameshell from clockwork
I cant wait for the HP805 G6 to hit the used market, especially the ones with the Ryzen 7 4750GE, and GTX 1660TI(mobile)
Is that vendor lock like the Lenovo one?
How about testing Android x86 on this? Android x86 64bit, Prime OS 2, Lineage OS, and anything else you might think of. I personally use the last build of OpenThos Android 8.1 and have built on top of that image. Remix OS and OpenThos are still my favorite Android desktop operating systems.
Can we add an external GPU using M.2 slot, something like RX 6500XT
Hey, I have one of these! I got it on Woot some time ago, and it has the hard drive bracket and an extra DisplayPort instead of the VGA. It's quite a capable little machine, and I've used it for a lot of different things! It's primarily a work-from-home machine, though I have used it as a backup machine when my primary desktop was down for repairs. It was able to drive a 1080p, 1440p, and a 1440p ultra-wide display at the same time without any issues, at least for basic stuff.
Can you upgrade the CPU?
@@ipoopNpeeonU maybe, depending on the manufacturer of the proprietary motherboard they might be locked in or don't have bios support for other processors.
@@Superradman yeah probably. And I'm sure if it did the higher processor would probably require more wattage. Thanks for responding
Oh sweet I just got one from woot and was a little sketched out as to why it was so cheap, sounds legit it seems.
Awesome video. Is the CPU replaceable? Could you put the 2400G instead, . Thanks
I looked at some of HP's docs on this a few days ago -- my memory isn't too great but I'm pretty sure they have a video on their channel demonstrating replacing the CPU
Now that steam os 3.0 is out it would be cool to find a comparable mini pc and make a Steam “decktop”
Might be getting one of these can find them under $150 makes a decent media source and mostly want it for emulation
This would be a great PC for MAME cabinets.
I own three HP 1-liter mini desktop systems, typing this on my daily driver right now. I'm really intrigued you can get one with a Ryzen 5 and 16gb RAM on it for ~$200. When I bought mine the AMD processors available were all pre-Ryzen models with awful performance. BTW, servethehome has a tinyminimicro series that covers a lot of "1-liter" systems offered by HP, Lenovo, and Dell.
This video got me to check eBay for the first time in decades. In doing that I learned that the drawing tablet I bought for over $300 at the end of 2016 is currently selling for under $50. That hurt to see.
Is Batocera difficult to get set up? I was thinking of dual booting my laptop and using it for lower end emulation, saving the standalone emulators on Windows for the higher-end stuff (I currently run PCSX2, Dolphin, and RPCS3) on the laptop, a laptop I picked up because it was featured on this channel. It's a HP Pavillion gaming laptop with a NVIDIA 1660 Ti and a 10th gen Intel i5.
What is the name of the animated Wallpaper of the Testarossa at the end of the video? I assume it's for Wallpaper Engine, but I am unable to find it in the Workshop.
That's my dream machine. Too bad I can't have one. 😩
I own several HP and Lenovo Mini PCs. Currently trying to setup an HP G3 mini with the R3G riser. Success only one session using a Sapphire elite RX580 graphics card.Need info on Bos settings!
This a fabulous PC (for the money). They have dumped hundreds of these on eBay. One seller has sold over 650 of these (so far). But some of these resellers have been stripping some of the internals. Most notably the 2.5 inch storage bay, or the internal Wi-Fi card, and some have removed one of the (2) 8 Gig memory sticks and then selling those separately on eBay.
But mine came in perfect shape, not a scratch or dent on it.. It came with everything and the back option slot even had the HDMI connector and the 65 watt power supply (although it say 90 watt max and HP does sell a 90 watt PS as well). All of this cost me $135 (and $8 sales tax). Oh, and mine was the 2400G not the slightly slower GE version. As well as a Windows 10 Pro OS already installed and registered. This is a great deal. So many dealers are selling these so choose carefully so you get the full package (if you still can). I've ordered a 2 TB Samsung 970 NVME M2 drive to swap in. I ordered it from Best Buy (refurbed) for about $70. No need to get a 980 as this PC is PCI3 and not 4. This is the best deal I have ever received from an online reseller.
There are RX560 4gb GPU special made for this PC at around 75 USD.
@@infernelu Really? Can you post a link as to where I can find this and how does it attach?
Please buy a first gen Chromebox from Ebay that is priced around 40-50 bucks and make a review of using it as an emulator PC.
Have you ever thought of reviewing these with the discrete graphics card (AMD Radeon RX560 4GB)? I just got the 705 but it came with the R3 Pro 2200ge with Vega 8
So this one or the icore 5 8600T for emulation or wait for a better CPU?
can you stress about the safety of OEM power supplies like the last video you did on a used ebay Elitedesk? You didn't mention it here
I totally didn’t even think about it, yeah the non OEM usually don’t provide the correct amount of power.
Hey ETA prime, mind to try and test some used office laptop like thinkpad I think that might be interesting thanks
I actually thought about it, I’ve been seeing the Lenovo’s with the 8th gen coming up
@@ETAPRIME looking forward to that project
I am thinking of getting one of these, amazon has a great deal on this right now, I'm wondering how the audio out setup works on a tv using an hdmi connection. You said you had to change the audio settings, what did you do?
Do you ever resell these builds at gaming conventions?
I'd like to see an egpu R3G riser based dock using the M.2 sot !
I noticed you said you installed windows. Since the product key is embeded into the bios, does it auto activate, or did you have to pay for a product key?
It will auto activate
*@ETAPRIME* The 1L TINY Lenovo ThinkCentre models m720q, m920q, m90q, p320, p330 & I believe also the m920x each all have an actual PCIe Express Slot (I believe x8). & there's x16 to x8 adapters/ connector cards (90° angle) made for this mod to add a single slot discrete GPU into the original housing. Some people have done it and drilled or cut holes in the top over the CPU & GPU fans for better airflow. Some have even 3D printed a new top cover/ lid for this upgrade. It'd be nice if you could do a video on it showing newer games running on it. I've seen a couple people do it with A2000 single slot mods. & it'd also be cool to see someone do it with a RX 6400 using Chimera OS. Which that I haven't seen yet (you'd be the 1st).
Could be a budget friendly alternative to something like the MS-01. For a fraction of the price used.
Also it seems everyone that's done the GPU upgrade on a 1L mini/ tiny are using the i5 8500t variants of those ThinkCentre models mentioned above.
How soon will you be getting the steam deck? Looking forward to a full emulation breakdown for that machine. A tutorial on how to get emulation up and running on the steam deck would be great. I would watch a 30-60min detailed tutorial.
Same performance as GTX 1050/Ti
I have bought a few weeks ago a refurbished EliteDesk 800 G4 mini with i5 8500 / 16GB RAM / 480 GB M.2 SSD / with BT wifi card for 200 GBP ... some times i really dont understand why those corps can throw away pc that are still so capable for most tasks... anyway good news to us !
With this little unit having a Ryzen APU, would this be a viable option to turn into a mini Plex Server with hardware acceleration and an external usb harddrive?
It would totally do that; I use an older version of this for that exact purpose
How he put such awesome screensavers on ? 9:54 For a little Child a great little Mashine!!
GPU prices already dropped 35-40% , with RDNA2 in 6000 & 7000 series CPUs and Intel's GPUs it's gonna get better, I'm waiting for the HP 805 G9 with RDNA2, gonna be sick.
Good experts, a little query, this hp 705 g4 and 8gb of ram, will it be able to move ps3 and switch well? And to make everything go better, on Wiiu and PS2, in batocera or retrobat?
Any better machine sff with veega inside or better card inside, in similar price?
Thanks to lot🙏
3:12 nice looking Windows 10 Pro.
I have one with a 10500T and a 1660 Ti. You should try to find one of those!
Do you think this could handle ps3 and/or switch(Yuzu?)
Could we pleeease see how this would be as a cheap steambox with steam os?
You must have a ton of computer hardware around from all these reviews. What do you do with it all ?
I got this pc recently, it is not perfect but is great
Radeon 660m review pls
Could we get something like Diablo 3 or Grim Dawn added to the mix of games that you are testing? Pleaseeeee
I saw this on Walmart for 248CAD (Canadian Dollards) and it is a great deal especially compared to the intel i 6th-8th cpu and worse igpus for the same price.
But I have an i7-4770 with GTX1050ti and ssd that I bought 5 years ago at 750CAD and it slightly better overall performance wise, despite the much bigger pc case.
So, I'll probably go with the Ryzen 5 5600g pc that I can find at 500CAD and add a dGPU later on, that could match the Playstation 5 GPU at least.
Anyways, this is a great mini pc, if I haven't got my i7-4770 pc.
What controller do you use for emulation?
They make an rx 560 that fits in the 2.5 inch slot for this computer. It's sweet, and it's only 75 bucks on Amazon or ebay
is the processor upgradeable to R5 3000 series?
I was at point to buy similar, brand new with Ryzen 4650GE for $560, but mised - out of stock in 2 days...
If you are waiting to get the G version of the 3000, 4000, and 5000 series and hoping to get better gaming performance especially with Emulation, I'd suggest get this now at 100+ most of it having 8GB RaM already installed. There is not a lot to gain if you are thinking of using a system like this for light dx11 gaming and emulation, as most of those use case use the GPU of this CPU, and the G versions of 3000, 4000, 5000 Ryzen series all have the same GPU. This use case don't use much of the CPU.
Is the front USB-C port able to be used with a portable display ?
XD anyone notice he said windows 10 pro 3:12
What is the maximum speed supported by the hp elitedesk 705 g4 mini? since on its official page it says that it is 2666hz but in your case I saw that it was 2933hz
Just got one of these for $45, it’s amazing.
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My Ryzen 5 2400G played games at 1080p at low to medium high settings depending on the game. It worked quite well as a stop gap solution before picking up a Radeon RX 570 for $120 brand new at Micro Center (2019) and I was always wondering why AMD did away with Vega 11 and stuck with Vega 8 when improving single core IPC. The processor came with Resident Evil 2 Remake and Devil May Cry 5 and I was able to play both games without issue especially when I had 16GB of 3200 RAM. I still have the CPU as a backup (the same for my Ryzen 5 2600 and Radeon RX 570) since I built my parents a PC utilizing a massively discounted Ryzen 7 5700G.
How to install Windows 11 on this Mini PC. Can you do a tutorial, or, provide a good how-to link, on this model.
I would buy this but inflation is hitting hard right now. Gas where is live is $6 gal for regular.
But this is only a 1 liter. Should be more reasonable.
That's still cheap compared to europe, where we will very soon see $10 a gal.
I have a G5, with a ryzen 5 3400GE, and 16gb, and Vega 11 graphics, and a CD drive.
Best part, it was 150 bucks. 180 with shipping and tax.
I hope I can upgrade it with a dedicated GPU.
My laptop just died and I'm looking for something on the cheap side, thus my asking if you can resell.....?
What is 4x native PSP, is it 720p?
i kind of decided to get this now
Please check out ChimeraOs. Would love to see your opinion on it.
Could the 2400g version of this play all of the Wii games and some Wii u games nice?
At 8:50 what is the software you are using? I cant get it the name when you mention it 😞
We have a good 20 in my computer lab! Unfortunately the ones we have only have 8gb of ram and are severely locked down so .io games are the best we can hope for.
I've had a 2400g since 2018 and I planned on getting a gpu down the road. Then covid happened and GPUs have been so overpriced I just never bothered. My specs are basically what you have in this video but I have 2400g and not 2400ge.
What's the fan noise like with this? Mine can get fairly loud under load.
I got one two years ago and replaced the fan with a much quieter USB fan. It is essential with this setup: Coolerguys 60mm (60x60x15) Medium Speed USB Blower Fan
@@maxwellcoppola3190 excuse my ignorance but, did the coolerguys fan replace the fan u put on top of the ram right? also how did u route it if its USB?
2:18 You can get a Display Port to HDMI cable from Monoprice for $10 everyday.
I have the 2400ge version, would like to know if I can upgrade. If what cpu?
This seems like a great candidate to try out SteamOS.