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00:00 Intro: Self-defense options for felons.
00:32 Felons might be able to rehabilitate 2A rights.
01:18 Alternate tools available for self-defense.
01:56 Can a felon obtain a concealed carry permit?
02:58 Felons and pepper spray.
04:07 “Prohibited persons” extend beyond felons.
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no pedo's tho
Absolutely NOTHING was said about WHAT YOU CAN USE FOR SELF DEFENSE AS A FELON!!!! You didn't answer the question!!! You simply addressed firearms and pepper spray, and every idiot knows what you said. They tell you that when you are released from prison!!
So... Do you know of ANYTHING THAT A FELON "CAN USE" TO DEFEND HIMSELF OR NOT??? Or are Chinese chopsticks out of the question as well?? I'm as curious as the person who asked the question STILL MUST BE.
Disappointed would be an understatement!
Black powder pistol it is!
WEAPON
If your safe enough to be released from prison and paid your debt you should be able to vote and have guns like everyone else. Otherwise you should still be in prison if you you’re still a danger. Need to change these ridiculous laws.
I shouldn't have to jump through a million hoops to get my RIGHTS back. Or pay thousands for a lawyer. Once the debt is paid, all rights should be restored, just like it always was in history until 1968. Our rights were created to be guaranteed to all free citizens.
Agreed.
Amen!
Our founding fathers never imagined we would allow truly violent criminals to roam the streets of society. That's why they never wrote "law abiding, peaceable or virtuous citizens"
@@freedomringer23 they would have hung murderers, armed robbers, grapes, and the like. Andrew Jackson executed a traitor on the white house lawn for God's sake.
Right once you pay your dues, it should be over
In other words most felons are less than American citizens, barely human, call the police when attacked and they can draw chalk lines when they get there in 4 1/2 hours.
Exactly
lmfao so true to the CORE
Sucks that I committed a crime at 17. Now I’m 39 and a single father that would never break the law now. But I can’t protect me or her if someone broke in with guns. I’m in a constant state of paranoia. After so many years you should have rights back. 😡
Tom Grieve gives excellent Council. I encourage everyone to call him even if you don't live in his state if you or a loved one is dealing with this. He helped us and we were able to get rights restored quickly and for way less money than we thought. best money we ever spent. Tom is a good man and an excellent lawyer.
ONLY WORKS WISCONSIN
Taking rights away indefinitely seems like the equivalent of double jeopardy. American justice system is a joke...
THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, NO JOKE
In 60's 70's and 80's mostly hunters or collectors could walk in to Target or any gun shop and buy a gun like a loaf of bread, not many locked their house or cars and most never thought about a gun even with all the cowboy shows on TV. Now gov wants to take our freedoms away and be socialistic, its become an issue around gun rights.....NO NO NO it's about the whole constitution they want to destroy because it limits the governments TYRANNY AND MAKING US THEIR SERVANTS AND VICTIMS, VULNERABLE TO EVERYTHING IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM BY CORRUPT JUDGES, COPS AND POLITICIANS THAT WANT MORE CONTROL OF "WE THE PEOPLE"
I’m sorry, but I rather be judged by twelve than carried by six! Not a hard decision!!!
That’s your choice. Tom Greave’s reason for not recommending that is that he can’t recommend anything illegal as a lawyer giving legal advice, he’d be committing malpractice.
Not me. Better to be dead than in prison. Gotta find the balance in there.
Yes if you get judged guilty of a felony by a jury you are a felon and a criminal and you can't have a gun it's a good idea not to let a criminal have a gun.
@@markmcgoveran6811 If a man serves his time, his Right’s should be restored! What your saying is that prison doesn’t accomplish anything in reforming a person that performed a criminal act! If they don’t commit any other crime after release their Right’s should be restored! Our focus should be on helping them back into society instead of branding them as criminals the rest of their lives! How long is a criminal a criminal if he/she is released back into society without any further incidents? The Constitution gives us all the right to self preservation! That’s no matter what you did in the past that you’ve already paid for in prison! If they are still criminals and repeat offenders on multiple occasions they are mentally insane and unfit to operate lawfully inside of society! The problem is that our prisons do little if anything to help these folks into a better path and a lawful one! Our prison’s are more like indoctrination centers to make them better criminals! Government is at fault! We need to look at taking rehabilitation of criminals seriously!!! All we do is set them up for their next crime! The subject at hand is, should ex cons be allowed to carry a gun for self preservation? Absolutely YES!!!! I have never been in jail for anything except for an assault charge when I was twenty years old! It was self preservation not assault, but I got railroaded by the government! Government is extremely corrupt and this is one of them! Our biggest criminals today are involved in government corruption! Most of them are looking for a paycheck and to hell with Justice!!! This is not even debatable!!! I could write a book on Government deceit, criminal acts, and violation of Civil Liberties!!!
Yeah and if you're planning on being judged by 12 you might want to increase the chances of them finding you innocent. If Bob threatens tom he doesn't have a right to shoot Fred by mistake. I am the foremost expert on firearms in America because I can do one thing with a gun that no one else will even claimed he can do.Miss. (). Everybody makes all these assumptions that every single shot is legal and every single shot hits the bad guy. Then they trained and trained and trained so they can shoot ten shots in a second. I shoot one shot one second. This is the capitalist system and I am not trying to produce a product I'm trying to avoid going to prison. Everybody wants to be in a contest and shoot all those targets and shoot faster than anybody else and all that other stuff. Someone is happy to sell you lessons for anything you want to do. They are absolutely delighted to take you on a range with completely safe conditions nobody down range for two miles. Then they're delighted to focus on me shot you took that hit and Pat you on the back and tell you what a good boy you are and how well you're advancing and the next lesson is another hundred dollars. Then everybody is so proud of their training in this lonely deserted absolutely safe place for stray rounds and focuses on the times they hit the target out of ten. Now everybody thinks this kind of training is exactly what we need in the school with an armed teacher. I'm curious when this next school shooting goes on at some place where the teachers armed what is going to happen to the teacher who shot a student in a panic? Who's going to pay the civil damages if you shoot a student and put him in a wheelchair and he needs about five million dollars worth of medical care for the rest of his life? I personally would rather hit you with the gun then hit you with the bullet.
I know a guy who spoke with the Sheriff in Polk County, FL and he was able to get his gun rights back by following what they told him.
Sometimes they won't get back your gun rights like if you have a violent felony. We have a choice as a society to take guns away from everybody or take guns away from felons. This is the kind of guy that you're going to have to shoot.
YOU LET HIM MOLEST YOU
Get a black powder revolver. No ffl transfer needed. They can be shipped to your home. There are conversion cylinders available.
Can't own a conversion cylinder if a fellon though,
In ohio, felons in athens ohio can not own any black powered guns. As they shoot a projectile. from a friend's prior conviction of weapons under disability last year he was charged for a black powered muzzleloader.
NOPE, YOUR ASKING FOR TROUBLE, EITHER ONE
In 60's 70's and 80's mostly hunters or collectors could walk in to Target or any gun shop and buy a gun like a loaf of bread, not many locked their house or cars and most never thought about a gun even with all the cowboy shows on TV. Now gov wants to take our freedoms away and be socialistic, its become an issue around gun rights.....NO NO NO it's about the whole constitution they want to destroy because it limits the governments TYRANNY AND MAKING US THEIR SERVANTS AND VICTIMS, VULNERABLE TO EVERYTHING IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM BY CORRUPT JUDGES, COPS AND POLITICIANS THAT WANT MORE CONTROL OF "WE THE PEOPLE"
Black powder is fine just don't modify it to be modern
PCP airguns are the best way to go,I have a .45 cal pistol I carry on me legally and a semi auto .45 cal for home defense,both doing firearm levels of energy,I also have a bolt action .45 airgun as well
What makes and models are you running? I've been meaning to get some
@@streak256 B&W S45 and have a short tank and mini kit installed,AEA HP Max .45,AEA defender 2.0 .45 cal
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Huben GK1
@@SmossyYT That's an excellent choice for sure.
At least for home defense it may be beneficial to remember that airguns, crossbows, and black powder based weapons are regulated differently than firearms. As always, check your local listings.
STILL A WEAPON
@@user-zx5fo5xx3o Some things are designed as weapons. But, FBI crime stats clearly show most weapons are just household items used to as weapons.
2A for all
CHEER LEADER HUH .....
I was convicted in 1991 by the US courts in Philadelphia for lying on a 4473 and felon in possession stemming from a receiving stolen property conviction in Bucks County Pennsylvania in 1985. The usual procedure is to defer to state however my conviction did not prohibit me from owning a gun on the state level (my county probation officer told me in 1987 I could own a gun as I wasn't convicted of a crime of violence) so the US government picked up the charges and prosecuted me under 18 USC 922(g)1. If SCOTUS strikes down the felon in possession statute at least for nonviolent convictions, I will make sure I get documentation from a legal source about my eligibility before purchasing a firearm. A NICS denial can lead to felony charges and the US government does not want to hear any excuses of ignorance.
Not a damn thing!!tell the shooter to let you make a quick call to the cops to come pick up some dead bodies because 21 years ago i made a stupid mistake so i don’t have the right to defend myself....america!!
no government can take away your right to own a gun.a right is a right and can not be taken away..i own quite a few firearms and i have 3 minor felonies over the years..
Where do u live?
@@puncho33 in a house
@@jayhope615 city?
State?
@@puncho33 thats classified
Many jurisdictions, especially Florida, allow felons to own Antique guns. We're talking single-shot, over .50 caliber, black powder rifles. Along with Black powder Cap & Ball revolvers. Firearms from around the time period of the early start of the Old West (1830s) to around the end of the Civil War.
One particular CZcams content creator is a felon in America. He's open and honest about that. Those are the types of guns he carries. Rifle in his truck. Large cylinder revolver on his person. And with technology from back then, you can forget about it being a six-shooter. Five-shooter. Got to keep that hammer resting on an empty chamber. Fast re-loads? Obviously not. But better than nothing. Heck, in some states, law-abiding citizens with clean criminal records don't even get THAT option! So, if you're a felon _or a slave_ you get various sized canisters of Pepperspray. And you learn the *proper* technique for using them!
Yeah we need to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and if we keep letting criminals have black powder guns, they will start showing up in modern robberies. Black powder cap and ball guns have been used armed robberies already.
Yeah not like they are just out of luck....
Most of the gun laws are pretty much in doubt in conquest in question. I believe that rule with the cap and ball and the felon person is clear. I don't think people understand that a person who has a felony has overstepped a rule somewhere quite a ways and that's why we don't let them have a gun. Try following the rules in the first place you won't get a felony and if you were limited cap-and-ball weapons by a felony try following the rules in the second place.
Pepper spray is not always effective. I've seen people get pissed then do something bad after being maced.
@@vapeking466 I agree wholeheartedly if you need to be terminated by the police pepper spray won't save you every time sometimes you just have to go ahead and push for what you need.
I have seen stories on the News of people being killed after using pepper spray. If a person is not in custody or on parole, all Rights should be restored. If a person is so bad that they may not have their Rights restored, then they should still be in custody.
We can't afford $50,000 a year to keep this guy in a box so everybody who isn't in a box and have a gun. It cost us so much money to keep the felon in prison, we can't afford that so we let them out but we don't let them have a gun to shoot somebody and commit another felony. Most people don't stop with one felony. That's why we have the three strikes law to cut it back to three strikes three felonies and on the 3rd when you get about 30 years. This guy is going to commit another felony just as sure as the coin is going to land heads or tails. It's just a matter of Will it be a gun felony so he takes away everybody's gun rights.
i made a mistake at 19 and caught a Felony , but that was 45 yrs ago
times were different back then ,and Now times are different and I need protection
because of the job I have carrying large amounts of cash , I am always looking for
self defense against muggers
In Michigan a person with a felon can use a paintball gun but can't own one here Michigan you can't even own a bulletproof vest if you're a felon and that has nothing to do with firearms it's something to protect you
I’m a felon who legally owns firearms. I got a pardon and have since gotten a concealed carry permit. I’d suggest google it in your state
I built an electrical pulse discharge weapon 600K volts will get anyone’s attention!
Where I live, some misdemeanors prevent you from obtaining a concealed carry license. If you slapped your girlfriend back in 1984 and the police were called and a report was filed, your out of luck. No domestic violence allowed.
I think the misdemeanor domestic violence prohibitor is totally stupid and unjust. Maybe it’s ok if there are 3 or more convictions, but even then…
@@Johnjanosz if you were beating on your girlfriend you don't need to own a gun. That's a crime a violent and we don't want people with a tendency to commit a violent crime owning guns. The taco shop shooting guy with a felon and he didn't have a gun. People who commit crimes are prone to commit more crimes.
It depends on where you live. If it was almost 40 years ago. and no other incidents occurred, it's possible it may have been removed from record. Also back then, that didn't fall under domestic violence. Domestic violence was when you were married or lived together in the same household. But now that has changed since Biden closed the boyfriend loophole with his last gun control law a few months ago. Now it's included and will prevent you from getting a conceal carry license. That's why you need to check with the county courthouse records.
@@stephenh4129 yeah just imagine that if you're maybe a relationship between impulse control and crime. You love this person you tell them all these wonderful things and then you're beating on them! There's another breaking point in law b-sides felony and misdemeanor. Is it a crime of moral turpitude? If you committed some sort of a misdemeanor crime that was an insurance related thing not making a payment or you didn't ensure a job and no one was hurt or anything, you probably wouldn't fall under a crime of moral turpitude. If you had a crime of domestic assault or any other kind of assault you probably couldn't get a job in an old people's home sweeping the floors or maintenance man or anyting else. I don't think we need to take guns away from everybody but if you have some kind of a criminal record they need to take your gun away from everybody who has that charge or not.
Easy answer just keep the firearm stashed in the bowels of your house for emergencies, I was a felon and I borrowed my dads gun in an emergency ( someone pulled a gun on my girlfriend at the time needed to get her home safe ( which I did ) ) Sherrifs pulled me over 4 blocks from my house. Bailed out later that morning, called my Beverly Hills Lawyer he got me 3 weeks in county + 4 years felony probation, my advice is even if you are a felon, if it's for home defense keep a gun stashed, and have 10-20k in cash ready for a lawyer, not a big deal. If they really try to screw you then sue your city/state/county for taking away your 2nd amendmant rights, if enough of us felons fight back we will get our rights back, and to be honest they can't take your rights away when you have a gun so be advised no one whos an american citzen can have their rights to bear arms taken away period...
And if your "local listings" say no, then MOVE !! If your present town tells you that you are not permitted to defend your spouse and children and self (in that order, by the way), then find a town and sheriff that does support that basic, inalienable human right.
GOOD LUCK DREAMER
It’s crazy that you have to choose between protecting your family of dying of go to prison and leave your family
YUP
Air Guns are not Firearms. The first repeating arm in history was a Air Gun
There are some extremely lethal air guns these days.. just fyi.
STILL A WEAPON
Thanks, Kevin~
Nope with the area I live in I'll just maintain what is easy to get. I'll take the 5 years on the gun charge before I become a victim to this horrible world.
When I was a teenager I got arrested and convicted of selling stolen jewelry and I did my time and I payed everyone back including the state of Florida and that was in 1994 and since 1994 I have never even gotten a speeding ticket in 30+ years now.
Is there any type of gun I can own to protect my elderly mother ?
Hello! Generally a good option is to look into having your record expunged. I will include a link below where you can find an expungement lawyer in your area that should be able to answer any questions you have!
www.avvo.com/expungement-lawyer.html
What if your a felon in one state but live in a different sate now that what you was charged with would not make you a felon in that state???
Still a fellon regardless
FOLLOWS YOU
What if someone try’s to rob you with peppers spray ,is pepper spray considered a iminient threat
What can you do for self defense if you work/live in a military base where weapons are not allowed 🙃
Are cap & ball revolvers considered firearms? There are people on youtube who seem credible and who claim that the federal government does NOT consider guns manufactured before 1899 or replicas of guns made before 1899 to be firearms but admit that state or local laws may still regard C&B revolvers to be firearms. 🤔
Check your laws but I believe anything with black powder is ok. Even cannons, volley guns, and a giant musket, but I could be mistaken or it could depend on local laws.
State laws can vary, of course. But a cap and ball revolver is still a Firearm as I understand it, just doesn't require a 4473 or background check to buy one. Potential gotcha.
That is accurate.
If a felon can't work with modern ammo even if antique (ammo itself is illegal for fellons to have), have a conversion cylinder and a few other things.
My family friend was just charged for weapons under disability for a black powered muzzleloader, anything in athens oh that shoots a projectile their not allowed to have, along with brass knuckles, or anything that could harm, stop their attacker, from the apa here nothing to immobilize someone. Their not allowed to have anything.
Thanks for absolutely nothing
Some states classify, "Billy clubs" as "weapons" too.
EVERYTHING IS A WEAPON
@@user-zx5fo5xx3o "CAN BE USED" as a weapon. I wouldn't be surprised if someone hit someone with a "Vienna sausage" and ended up with the charge of, "assult with a deadly weapon."
that's true, they want any excuse to take constitutional rights away especially gun rights. Vienna sausage would earn a felony charge reduced to misdemeanor after 2.5 years of probation reduced from 5 years and a $50 fine
In light of situations happening in this country (memphis) can you use self defense against law enforcement
Sometimes I wonder, could a previously convicted (non-violent) felon that served their time sentence in jail/prison and no longer has probation have the right to self defense using a compound bow & arrows or even a crossbow?? Depends on local listings and laws I guess (Tom Grieve's advice).
If somehow you found yourself in the position of doing these nonviolent felonies it might suggest that you need to steer your life a little bit differently. If you were that sure someone is after you that you have to have a crossbow land around the judge May wonder what it is that you were doing is causing you to have such animosity in the community. I know we love this mysterious bad guy that roams the land harming others he's never met, if that was the only criminal we had we would have them all caught in a minute. Most of the people who are doing acts of violence to each other are disputing over money or family. You might be able to wait until the great deal of time has passed 5-10 years keep your nose clean and go back and ask the court to expunge your record, and restore all your rights.
@@markmcgoveran6811 are you everyone's therapist or something? Over here lecturing people about one's life choices and how that gives the government the right to take away a CIVIL RIGHT. Until 1968, it was not allowed. The government has a duty to protect its citizens and lock away violent criminals or execute them. Not put citizens at risk by letting them roam free and creating little traps for the people who just want to own a gun for hunting only self defense or allowing truly violent criminals to get out and reoffend for them to make more money off of other citizens trauma and pain. See the only people that suffer by letting violent criminals out are the citizens, and the people who learned their lesson, suffer at the hands of the government system. You are a joke dude. You have no idea how the real world works do you? Self defense situations can be viewed as murder real quick with today's laws, and a self defense fight can turn on you too. You should probably read how ridiculous the laws are before criticizing everyone's actions. Also educate yourself on the history of the second amendment and why these laws are not constitutional. The government has the authority to place someone on lifetime parole and restrict weapons use. Why the need for the law? Why are we releasing violent criminals? Why do we punish people for life for a lesson well learned after the debt it paid? That's the real questions we should be asking.
@@freedomringer23 let me answer your question. I'm a United States citizen who has not committed a felony. You are a United States citizen who has committed a felony and now you were crying the blues as a felon trying to get your gun back and blaming everybody else because you committed a felony. Is there anything about you being a felon that suggests I should listen to a word you say since I am a law-abiding citizen? A felon that blames everybody else, is the best bet to do another felony.
@@freedomringer23 are you a felon trying to get a handgun so you can go out and blame everybody for something new that's a felony 2?
@@markmcgoveran6811 what are you even saying? When your logic proves to be false and all you have left are baseless insults.
The lawyer is a joke,,how does he call himself a pro,,when he don't even know basic stuff in regards to pepper spray laws...smh
WEAPON
Black powder doesn't fall under lots of rules
YES IT DOES WEAPON
Talk talk talk talk Z-Ro useful information.
Yeah right,they have a gun and they say get a bat. Well, bullets are the best against bats hands down.
As long as you don't take your weapons outside you're fine. The problem is going outside.
Martial Arts ! do a fly kick
RIGHT.....
KUNG FOO
So since you were convicted of crime, then remedied the offense by a judge who handed down the sentence. But what I'm hearing is it's better to go on the run, or deny involvement to avoid being accountable for offense. Because taking responsibility and serving a sentence equates to a lifetime of limitations and continued punishment , oh and so sorry but if you are in immediate danger from an attacker, well hope your female 5'4 , and 120 lb self can out run a bullet or overpower a 250 lb man., Because your life is meaningless now and we think its well deserved to be helpless to protect your own life.😂.
God Bless America! Guess I will save my own ass by vacationing on a Mexican beach while WW3 includes a threat stateside here.
I'm not worried about it I got a big old knife
Pepper spray?
WEAPON
How about carrying a self-defense launcher, like Byrna or Umarex?
In California you can have a byrna but it can’t be black, yellow or orange only and no pepperball ammo unless you get certified to be a security guard. California is a sewer anyhow. I can carry my black byrna le legally where I live now
WEAPON
What does inaliable mean?
LOOK IT UP DOPEY
You can't have your rights taken or give up your rights even if you want to, so it's not a right.
What did he mean by Electronic weapons? The obvious is tazer but what else?
KEY WORD WEAPON, DUH
home made explosives? I watched macguyver!
High power air guns or black powder!
NINJA WARRIOR stuff for self defense!
Full auto BB gun! Flame 🔥 thrower!
Modified full auto framing nailer. 🧨
Black powder is legal for felons you know?
Ok kid.... calm down.... 😂
@@Bagginsess Maybe only if you get caught!!
@@AldoSchmedack That stuff is cool and fun for the whole family!
ALL WEAPONS DOPEY
Get an antique cap and ball revolver...
WEAPON/PRISON
@@user-zx5fo5xx3o Try again...
Is a muzzleloader ok?
Black powder revolvers aren't legally considered firearms
YES THEY ARE NOW
Jail time isn't paying your debt to society, it's doing time at the expense of society. If anything, it incurs additional debt.
I'm with you this guy is a felony waiting to happen again. If we let him have guns pretty soon no one will be able to have one because he is shown to have bad judgement in his life and likely to repeat a felony. We don't want to let him commit a gun felony and get guns a bad name. These criminals think they go out here on vacation Robin and butcher and murdered and do whatever the hell they please and then they pay their debt for the damages they did by sponging food and housing off the rest of us. This is the guy who will get our guns taken away is felon if you give him another gun.
Byrna
Black powder firearms...
Black powder guns?
WEAPON
@user-zx5fo5xx3o Weapon, probably. Firearm, no. Considered an antique. No background checks required.
In 60's 70's and 80's mostly hunters or collectors could walk in to Target or any gun shop and buy a gun like a loaf of bread, not many locked their house or cars and most never thought about a gun even with all the cowboy shows on TV. Now gov wants to take our freedoms away and be socialistic, its become an issue around gun rights.....NO NO NO it's about the whole constitution they want to destroy because it limits the governments TYRANNY AND MAKING US THEIR SERVANTS AND VICTIMS, VULNERABLE TO EVERYTHING IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM BY CORRUPT JUDGES, COPS AND POLITICIANS THAT WANT MORE CONTROL OF "WE THE PEOPLE" minnesota
"RIGHTS" are not given by man.
RIGHTS are bestowed by God, or nature or whatever your higher power is or isn't. Simply put, RIGHTS ARE TAKEN NOT GIVEN!
PRISONS ARE GOING TO BE OVER FLOWING WITH ALL OF YOU , GET GOD TO BE YOUR LAWYER
GET GOD FOR YOUR LAWYER
BJJ I win :)
I've definitely taken my fair share of jiu jitsu classes as well. I will get my rights back soon.
3rd, 10 February 2023
There seems to be a huge consensus that we need to have more felons with guns. We've got one guy on here that's blame in the whole world for his felony and he's a law-abiding citizen, but just part-time. When he's not committing a felony he's a great guy and he deserves to have a gun so he can blame somebody else for his crime next time.