This has gotten a lot of traction recently so I wanted to give people a heads-up that I made 3 other videos recommending other starts if you wanted to check those out: 1. 7 Starts I Recommend in AGOT for CK3: czcams.com/video/xQ50c94pWKI/video.html 2. 7 MORE Starts I Recommend in AGOT for CK3: czcams.com/video/MeakR4hSsl0/video.html 3. The Last 10 Starts I’ll Recommend in AGOT for CK3 (For Now): czcams.com/video/eNVUuzKFty4/video.html
If you want to play as a custom house and are looking for a good place to start without disrupting the lore, I recommend Dunstonbury in the Reach. It was the old holding of house Manderly before they fled to the North. Afterwards, it was one of the holdings of house Peake before they had it taken from them for supporting the Blackfyres. There's no lore on Dunstonbury after that so you can fit right in if you start there. The path to forming the Dutchy there is also very simple and easy. You can pretty quickly become one of the more influential houses in the Reach there.
I personally like house Redwine because they start with all farmland and it's easily defendable. They snowball really hard and easily get the best development within the first 10 years of the game.
Smth interesting to do in Dorne is starting as Doran Martell, then you give Oberyn, your brother, and one of my fav. characters from the books, and the show, a title, and just switch to his character. The way I did it, and would surely do it again, is to use my crazy scheeming stats to kill historical-canonical rivals like Tiwyin and The Mountain, infiltrating the Iron Throne court and of course making my daughter Nymeria Sand a legitimized bastard so she can be my heir and take over Dorne for the "Bastards of Dorne". It was a crazy run and I highly recommend it.
I'm honestly a little surprised you didn't even mention house Frey. They're by far the most powerful duchy in the Riverlands, with their special building at the Twins giving a huge boost to levies and gold. The mountain of kids, grandkids, and great grandkids also lets you not only create functionally infinite alliances with whoever you want, but get your dynasty members on seats. With Walder's high intrigue, you can easily kill Gyles Rosby, his wife, and yours to get Freys ruling Rosby. Another easy pickup is marrying one of your kids to Falyse Stokeworth (AI will always accept patrilineal) and having kids of your dynasty inherit after her.
@@bardown390 Gotta admire old Walder though, nearly wiped out a house that's been around since the dawn of time. Man didn't take shit from anybody regardless of their name or title. Not to mention the execution of it all. He's got some massive balls inviting a whole army into his home and wiping them out when a single slip up or loose tongue could've made things turn out very differently. Which I suppose explains where the countless children came from.
Went for reviving House Harroway because of their badass sigil, starting as a count in the bay of crabs. One thing that was really cool was that the iron throne collapsed entirely after the civil war, leading to the kingdoms becoming independent high kingdoms once more. Made Harroway Tower near Lord Harroway's Town the capital again instead of Harrenhall, played the marriage game and eventually became king of the riverlands through political cunning, without any warfare
Glad you brought up house Royce for the vale! I've been playing them and loving it. You stat right next to Gull Town, which is a very powerful seat but owned by a relatively weak house, so you can take it by force very quickly, giving you an early start with TWO powerful seats. Also, with the buildings Runestone starts with, it's crazy good for the winged knights. When stationed there they have over 500 attack. Absolutely ludicrous. It helps that the Royces are also just a super cool house thematically
House Osgrey. In my playthrough as Hightowers they (Osgreys) managed to marry all Weber heirs so they got most of duchy land. I've decided to let that slide so they created their own rightful duchy.
I made a custom house on crackclaw point to united the clawmen for the first time! Started out at Dyre Den and conquered all claw lands west and south of us, then the iron throne grant me the vassalage of the rest of the houses.
I’ve always loved Jason Mallister as a character. I have a whole AU lore document written on my iPad about “my version” of the character. Jason Mallister, his seat of power, Sigil, and backstory is just so damn cool
@@Soul_Tomato in my version of Jason Mallister I gave him the nickname Krakensbane since in canon he killed Balon’s oldest son and heir Rodrick. Throw in a valerian steel weapon and bam.
Another interesting one in Dorne would be house Yronwood. They are stony dornishmen as well, and they have a historic rivalry with the Martels. When the Rhoynar arrived and established themselves, the Yronwoods were the dominant petty kings in Dorne, and after being subdued, they remained the second strongest house, and also kept quite the grudge, participating in rebellions from then on and so fourth. They are also situated in the Dornish Marches, the border with the Stormlands, so there's also possibility for action there
15:35 I don't think the castle walks around, I believe it is a wooden (or at least not stone and mortar) fortification build on a crannog, or artificial island, that is likely able to float through the swamplands.
Some more good options North: -Forresters, family you use in the Telltale game. Start as counts under the Glovers, so it’s a good starting small option. -Mormonts, not a very powerful house, but they obviously have Longclaw and a lot of characters that play big roles in the series. Riverlands: -Mallisters, very cool house. Jason Mallister is a pretty awesome character who famously crushed an ironborn attack outside his castle and killed Balon Greyjoys eldest son. -Pipers, decently strong house with a cool banner. Some cool characters have come from there. Vale: -Corbrays, home to some of the most famous knights in Westeros and a Valyrian steel sword, Lady Forlorn. Had some very tight connections to the Targaryens for a good bit of their reign. A Corbray famously dueled Daemon Blackfyre for an hour at the Redgrass Field. Crownlands: -Darkes/Darkwoods/Dargoods, all three are county level cadets of the now extinct Darklyn’s. Could be fun to try to retake Duskendale. -Crabb or Brune, two most notable houses in the Claw. Both have had some cool members. Westerlands: -Westerlings, the family of Jeyne Westerling aka Robb’s Wife in the books. Were very wealthy and notable house at one point until their silver mines ran dry, could be fun to try to revive them a bit. Stormlands: -Conningtons, house gives off a very Griffindor vibe and is home to one of the best characters in the series, Jon Connington. For Roberts Rebellion it is a tough start since you will be at war with Robert and right on his doorstep. Reach: -Fossoways (green or red), super cool house claiming descent to the Westeros equivalent of Robin Hood, Foss the Archer. Red branch has much more land, but the Green branch is significantly cooler. -Osgreys, once mighty house that saw its lands get reduced significantly after Aegon’s conquest and again after siding with the Blackfyres. Most notably the house Duncan the Tall is employed by in the The Sworn Sword. Dorne: -Yronwoods, one of the most powerful and rich families in Dorne. Before Nymeria’s conquest they ruled as the largest kingdom in Dorne.
At this start date baristan has a prowess of 43. Aurther Dayne is 42 at only age 23 😮. Had he survived the ware he would’ve been the known as greatest knight ever
Arthur is already known as the greatest knight in Westeros after his death. It’s the whole crux of ASOIAF. With the death of Arthur Dayne, the idea of good and noble knights died, and made way for the grey and conflicted characters in the story like Jaime to be introduced.
Yeah I think the only one you could argue that still lives up to that former image is Barristan Selmy but he’s also in his 60s at the time of the books.
I recommend starting as a Greenborn culture in Flints Fingers nuckle. A county called Waterstone. I played Tall and raided the weakest wildlings for a couple extra bucks, blackmailing and extoring vassals as I grew. My goal was to develop the land and with all the wood farms and guildhalls we were able to complete our goals and after T5ing every main structure I started changing my buildings from development to military and each building cost like 32 gold haha
Additionally on Tarth there is also a ruined Castle that you can restore which originally served as a seat for the "Evenstar Kings", some of the first Andals who came to Westeros.
I played like 300 hours of the CK2 GoT mod. Starting on Skagos is a really good challenge for long-time players. House Dayne is fun if you want to role-play the knight thing and raise kids to be King's Guard or Swords of the Morning. Idk if its in this one too, but playing as the sole heir of a dead house if really fun. House Reyne has a event chain that let's you overthrow the Lannisters. House Hoare and Durandon are also fun choices for this. What makes the CK2 mod so great is Essos. Essos is insanely rich with possibilities. Ik this mod had a big update recently so look forward to that
There's count of House of Salt iirc on iron isles. They are cadet branch of house Hoare who ruled Iron Isles and Riverlands before Aegon's conquest so you can try and restore their glory
I like to start with house peake in in Robert Rebellion startdate, because you are in line to inherit the Tarly lands if Randall and his brother happen to „die by accidents“ ^^
Playing as house Weber was my favorite! They start out very small and have one of the best sigils. By the time I got to the end date I sat the iron throne and had Dynasty members and all the important castles.
Speaking of house Manderly, one challenging and cool playthrough could be restoring them to their ancestral lands in the Reach. Just because of the enormous distance, it would be a very challenging task, not to mention having to fight powerful houses in the Reach
Honorable mention to House Corbray (Gwayne Corbray was goated) in The Vale & House Harlaw in the Iron Islands for their MANY Cadets Houses & The most educated man in all of Iron Islands
The most fun I’ve had so far is trying to become the King Beyond the Wall and being Rhaegar (I imprisoned Aerys and got Tywin to become my ally. Robert didn’t stand a chance 😄)
1:00 actually there were several velarions that rode dragons, and they were children of Corlys velarion, you can find it in books about the dance of dragons, or in the house of the dragon show
Yeah but they’re children of a Targaryen too. Velarions are not inherently dragon riders and those who are dragon riders are only so because of their Targ blood.
I really like playing as house Waynwood. A Dutch in the Vale, they have a full claim on Winterfell and The North. Plus a member of house Waynwood can easily end up as ruler of the Vale.
The cadet branch of House Royce are lords of the Gates of the Moon, at the base of the Eyrie. The Bloody Gate was in the Moon Mountains, led by Brynden Tully at start of ASOIAF. Otherwise great channel & thank you!!
Ironically my first CK3 AGOT play through was starting at Harrenhal and I took a large portion of the Riverlands, as far west as the Bracken lands and as far west as Maidenpool and up to the bloody gate. I fought the Tullys for independence and won and became a Paramount. All this was done on my first character which was the biggest chad of any character I’ve ever had on CK3 lol
Ironically my second play through started at Lonely Light. It is cool I’ve done like 2 on your list already and I can vouch they are solid areas to start and are really cool to see what they become.
I like playing as a King to an Emporer. I also like to create new Kingdoms but dislike disrupting balance so one spot I often choose is Oldtown or the Arbor. My ultimate goal is cutting the Reach in half without taking the entire coast or too much land. Usually taking Highgarden is the way to remane dominant without taking everything.
My current playthrough, I started as House Vikary of Borrenline because they have house Reyne ancestry. I then proceeded to marry my daughter to Tyrion Lannister, who was Tywin's heir, in order to get my blood in charge of the Westerlands. And while I did manage to marry Tyrion, there were apparently a lot of assassinations going on that I wasn't a part of that threw a wrench into everything First Tywin was killed, making Tyrion the lord. Then Tyrion was murdered, making my granddaughter lord, which is what I wanted, but then SHE was murdered while still a child, making Cersei lord. Then SHE was murdered, making prince joffery lord. I fabricated claims all this time to seize all the lannister lands (which included castamere) and by the time joffery was lord there, I immediately declared war on him to take all his territory. Using allies and mercenaries bought with Iron Bank loan money, I was able to take casterly rock, which got Joffery prisoner and ended the war. And boy sieging casterly rock takes forever, even with a full team of trebuchets. Unfortunately, DURING the war, by reasons I still don't really understand, some guy in the northern part of the westerlands was able to make a faction and take the paramouncy of the westerlands away from joffery, so even after I won the war, I didn't have that. I did, however, have all the lannister lands. Now having reclaimed Castamere, i did the restoration of house Reyne and changed our dynasty and sigil and whatnot over. The lannister main branch was removed from power, though their cousins still ruled as my vassals in lannisport. My status improving to high lordship rather than just lordship made me a more desirable match for marriage. I wed my son to Daenerys Targaryen all the way over in essos. She wasn't in line to inherit their county, but I didn't want or care about one county in essos so I didn't bother assassinating viserys to take it. Interestingly enough, she refused marriage unless it was matrilineal. She REALLY wanted her kids to be Targaryens, but I did too so that was fine, I just found it interesting. Once they became of age, they started printing Targaryen heirs who would inherit casterly rock and a huge portion of the Westerlands. I'm hoping to have paramouncy of the westerlands before my targaryen heirs take over. What a fun surprise that would be for the realm. My ultimate goal is of course the iron throne itself, but we'll have to see what the best method of getting there will be. Once upon a time in CK3 I would use a tactic where i'd play a female seductress who would become the lover of a king until I had a boy bastard with him, then tell everyone it was his bastard, then legitimize him, and then he would be next in line to inherit the throne. I havent played CK3 in a long time though so we'll see if it still works. One thing I find funny about this mod is all the random marriages. It's so odd to see Robb Stark, warden of the north, married to some Hornwood girl and Peter Baelish is just some poor guy married to some random noble lady still living in the fingers and not being part of any court. I'm tempted to play a Peter Baelish run and focusing entirely on scheming and assassinations and such and see if I can make him king in his lifetime. It's really too bad you can't incite other rulers to fight one another or dislike one another. I don't really think it's possible though to take the crown without either kids or conquest, but we'll see!
House Peake is also recommended. Starts off with one County and can easily form a high lordship. Lore wise, House Peake has a good play through to restoring greatness of their house since they descended from Garth Greenhand. Peake also has alot of history in large events such as the Blackfyre Rebellion and the Dance of Dragons siding with the losers on both. Things to do are 1. Overthrow Tyrells since most houses of the reach don't view Tyrells as legitimate and other houses have much better claims. 2. Bring back Prestige to House Peake after losing their holdings after multiple failed blackfyre rebellions and uprisings. 3.Continue the feud with Manderlys and take their home in the North as well. 4. If Targs win, seek revenge on the Targs since King Daeron II taking their land. Like playing as House Peake so much that I did 2 playthroughs and running constant murder schemes on the Manderlys for the House Feud bonuses.
Funny enough I made another of these videos - which comes out next week - and included them in it. They also seemed like my favorite of the bunch next to House Connington.
It’s not lore friendly and a pain to get started, but I just started playing as Jon Snow during the war of the five kings. I removed his loyalties to the nights watch and had him take over Moat Cailin as a vassal to Robb. I love when his parentage is revealed and he gets his own Targaryen Sigil that’s white with a grayish dragon. Joffrey started a war with me and it ended in a ‘stalemate’ as Stannis won the iron throne. I’m currently rebuilding Cailin and building up my armies to try and take it from him.
I wish they’d just flush out mechanics of Westeros and leave essos, except for maybe events pertaining to a Targaryen invasion or interactions with the iron bank. Essos to me just adds unnecessary lag and dilutes the core Westeros experience
Nerd Note, but around a half dozen Velarions were dragon riders. I won't spoil HotD for those who haven't read Fire and Blood, so I'll be vague. While not a Dragonlord family, because of their wealth and traditional silver gold hair and purple eyes, the Targs married them several times. Especially during the dance when there were more dragons than Targaryens, house Velarion had a couple riders.
Honestly I’m not sure how either but I do know you can marry her to Rhaegar if he happens to become King and loses his original wife because they are distant cousins.
I’ve done one custom run on my own in the North and it was okay. I’m planning one here for the channel in the Reach which I think will be better. The North is just too one note for my taste.
@@h4vehart true! But seasmoke was ridden by Leanor, who was half Targ. Adam of Hull is a bit more dubious though but if he was Leanor’s son then the Targ (Dragon Rider) blood being a requirement would still stand
house salt would be cool. may restore house hoare with them and claim whole riverlands. with the latest upgrade though, in-game, starting character had a cool beard and armor like a dwarven warrior but with 1.9.2 it's gone. and with the 1.9 patch all unimportant characters are bald :)
More or less. I do plan on doing another one to include some of the even smaller/extinct houses. I just made this for people who are probably less familiar with GOT and don’t know who to pick. But I’m always open to suggestions for smaller houses!
They still may ask you to stop war if another party is quick with petition. I've ignored requests twice, but my house was very powerful at that point, so no retaliation from liege. I now think it can be cool to lure liege to hunt/feast and stomp your opponent while he can't petition.
you can pin the map with the middle wheel and move the screen that way instead of moving the mouse to the edges everytime. It kinda made me drowsy and couldnt finish the video :(
@@Soul_Tomato was thinking say how does the first 50-75 or so years of House Stark potentially play out differently in each scenario. I saw somewhere the possibility of Robert losing the rebellion - curious how that plays out.
small remark: the Velaryons were indeed dragon riders, there were a handful of them in the main AGOT storyline wo did ride dragons also, it is lore accurate for some of the Westerlands minor houses to possess Valyrian steel weapons, as they are rich families, and this infuriates good old Tywin even more
Okay so I wasn’t crazy about the minor houses having blades. And in retrospect I do feel a bit silly about the Velaryon comment since I now remember that there are people like Rhaenys and her kids.
If pointing out that some velaryons were dragon riders it’s also important to point out that each and every single one was a direct descendent of a Targaryen too
@@aaronithink3853 I'm not a massive lore nerd but is it mostly a Targ thing then to ride dragons? I don't think the Celtigars even sniff a dragon from what I remember.
@@Soul_Tomato Yeah, in Westeros only those with Targaryen blood can ride dragons (in Valyria there used to be many other families who were much more powerful than the Targs and had lots of dragons)
I'm waiting for the step stones to be added to play as the veleryons. The waves will crash upon the stones, and with it comes fire&blood. I'm not sure if I should play as true blooded veleryons or auranne waters
I know you said you're not really interested in the Ironborn houses, but one house you should try out are the harlaws. They are descended from house Hoare, who were the kings of the isles and riverlands. I played as them and usurped the grey joys while the bigger lords were fighting each other and rebuilt house hoare, then i invaded the riverlands and the north. Try them out it gets really interesting late game, but move quickly against the greyjoys so you can invade the mainland before they're done their war
I tried to play this mod...but as soon I clicked for "play any ruler" my pc went sky rocket :/ It's that normal? I got 32 gb ram, 3070 rtx and 3700x amd. The base game gave me no problem whatsoever! I had no problem playing way heavier games than ck3 but this mod is weird. Someone knows how to help or have experienced the same issue?
So something that happened to me after the mods recent update was my PC wasn’t using my GPU and instead using the onboard GPU. Check out the NVIDIA control panel and set the program settings just to your 3070. Then try.
@@jordanbolen2020 but both of those were half targ half Velaryon riders. Adam of Hull might break this truth though. But I'm fairly sure that dragon riding is why Corlys married Rhaenys -- so his children could become riders.
@@Soul_Tomato that’s not exactly why they were riders, this made them inherit Dragon eggs from the targaryens. All Valyrians can inheritly ride dragons. Atleast for the most part. They don’t need to be a certain dynasty.
1. Do I need legacy of Persia to be able to play Agot again ? Its crashed and I’ve tried different videos on changing the properties and nothing works I’d really like to play Agot again
My first ever game was as dorne. Off the bat you side with the loyalists and lose so you get sent to the wall. So you play as the guys daughter. I had her marry and seduce king Robert after first having kids in another marriage and they sadly died. Had all of my kids be of his dynasty but the kids of my dynasty would have a relation boost with the king which was great. Eventually married off Jon Snow to one of my daughters and made him a landed lord in dorne. He died of old age with a lot of kids was great fun doing all these political negotiations while controlling the kings succession in the process. Also the original king became lord commander after Mormont died so basically had my dad become lord commander while I was banging the king.
I know it's such a small and understandable thing but for some reason it makes my asshole pucker when people pronounce *both* Velaryon and Valyrian "Valerian".
@@Soul_Tomato they have the cooler castle as well as sigil. Not to mention being one of the few houses south of the neck to hold faith with the old gods. And while we’re at it Brynden Rivers>Aegor Rivers
@@jay-1800 Truthfully I personally don't like the Blackwoods because they're about as Mary Sue as possible for GOT. But Brackens have admittedly little to like either. I just root for them because I never liked how much I was "supposed" to like the Blackwoods.
Agreed. Bloodraven didn’t found the most famous mercenary company in the world and, despite being basically a god, couldn’t even beat his human brother in a duel. Scrub behavior. Bittersteel forever.
@mugenspiegal7415 They aren't cringe; its just filthy Bracken slander. House Blackwood is the more well known out of the 2 fueding houses, given Brynden Rivers (Blackwood/Bloodraven) significant influence and triumph over his half brother Aegor Rivers (Bracken/Bittersteel). Brackens have a chip on shoulder, so they'll take any chance they get to take a swipe at Blackwood lol.
@@mugenspiegal7415it’s mostly harmless banter. But Blackwood is often criticized because of how ‘Mary Sue’ they are in the books - basically flawless, cool, and never in the wrong. In a series of complex characters it’s an outlier of author favoritism. Which some people, me included, don’t care for. Plus it’s fun to root for the underdog sometimes.
@@cg3518As is said, it’s just fun to root for the enemy of the Blackwoods when the Blackwoods are presented so uncharacteristically good. Rah rah, go Brackens, fuck the Blackwoods! Horsies forever, the true kings of the Riverland!
This has gotten a lot of traction recently so I wanted to give people a heads-up that I made 3 other videos recommending other starts if you wanted to check those out:
1. 7 Starts I Recommend in AGOT for CK3: czcams.com/video/xQ50c94pWKI/video.html
2. 7 MORE Starts I Recommend in AGOT for CK3: czcams.com/video/MeakR4hSsl0/video.html
3. The Last 10 Starts I’ll Recommend in AGOT for CK3 (For Now): czcams.com/video/eNVUuzKFty4/video.html
If you want to play as a custom house and are looking for a good place to start without disrupting the lore, I recommend Dunstonbury in the Reach. It was the old holding of house Manderly before they fled to the North. Afterwards, it was one of the holdings of house Peake before they had it taken from them for supporting the Blackfyres. There's no lore on Dunstonbury after that so you can fit right in if you start there. The path to forming the Dutchy there is also very simple and easy. You can pretty quickly become one of the more influential houses in the Reach there.
Oh this is great advice. I’ve been curious about doing a run with a custom house.
Don’t mention the pe*kes without censoring that word pls
Glad this is here, it’s one of my favorite custom starts
I like restoring house rayne and taking out the lanisters
Always a great way to go.
*Reyne, Lannisters
@@weeoth8380🤡
Well, also Vow to be better than the Lannisters. Don't wipe them out completely, maybe just take Lannisport from them, or the Rock
leave them with one county is what Im going to do @@thalmoragent9344
Can’t wait until Essos is playable and I can spend hours taking trips to Valyria in hopes of finding Brightroar 😂
I personally like house Redwine because they start with all farmland and it's easily defendable. They snowball really hard and easily get the best development within the first 10 years of the game.
Yeah, in the books, they have the largest fleet in Westeros, if I recall. Even above the Lannisters, Hightowers and Velaryons
For the Iron Islands, you can restore House Hoare (the original holders of Harrenhal) with one of the houses there. Very cool run.
Yep! I covered them in my extinct houses vid
Never forget house Forrester of Ironrath
How could anyone forget
Or house Sarwyck of Riverspring. A seed for the red god in Westeros. c:
"-Iron from ice, brother
-Iron from ice!"
Smth interesting to do in Dorne is starting as Doran Martell, then you give Oberyn, your brother, and one of my fav. characters from the books, and the show, a title, and just switch to his character. The way I did it, and would surely do it again, is to use my crazy scheeming stats to kill historical-canonical rivals like Tiwyin and The Mountain, infiltrating the Iron Throne court and of course making my daughter Nymeria Sand a legitimized bastard so she can be my heir and take over Dorne for the "Bastards of Dorne". It was a crazy run and I highly recommend it.
This sounds like fun
I'm honestly a little surprised you didn't even mention house Frey. They're by far the most powerful duchy in the Riverlands, with their special building at the Twins giving a huge boost to levies and gold. The mountain of kids, grandkids, and great grandkids also lets you not only create functionally infinite alliances with whoever you want, but get your dynasty members on seats. With Walder's high intrigue, you can easily kill Gyles Rosby, his wife, and yours to get Freys ruling Rosby. Another easy pickup is marrying one of your kids to Falyse Stokeworth (AI will always accept patrilineal) and having kids of your dynasty inherit after her.
You know what I am too because they have the potential to be stupidly powerful -- and I often marry them in my own playthroughs. Great suggestion.
"Though mayhaps this was a blessing. Had he lived he would have grown up to be a Frey".
@@bardown390 Gotta admire old Walder though, nearly wiped out a house that's been around since the dawn of time. Man didn't take shit from anybody regardless of their name or title. Not to mention the execution of it all. He's got some massive balls inviting a whole army into his home and wiping them out when a single slip up or loose tongue could've made things turn out very differently. Which I suppose explains where the countless children came from.
@SimplymeSVEN18 You aren't wrong. Dude was BOLD.
Went for reviving House Harroway because of their badass sigil, starting as a count in the bay of crabs. One thing that was really cool was that the iron throne collapsed entirely after the civil war, leading to the kingdoms becoming independent high kingdoms once more. Made Harroway Tower near Lord Harroway's Town the capital again instead of Harrenhall, played the marriage game and eventually became king of the riverlands through political cunning, without any warfare
Gotta love dynamic storylines like that. My favorite run has still been restoring Harrenhal as House Strong.
In Dorne, restoring House Yronwood to the title of kings could be good
I’ve never read the books or watched the show before playing this mod. These recommendations are a pretty informative and a big help.
This isn't even the surface of the surface but I'm glad it helped!
Should talk about the minor houses that have secret decision to restore the Reynes and House Hoare
@@XcuretogrowingolderX I did think about doing that but I wondered if that would be too deep for a basic overview.
you should watch both of the shows
Glad you brought up house Royce for the vale! I've been playing them and loving it. You stat right next to Gull Town, which is a very powerful seat but owned by a relatively weak house, so you can take it by force very quickly, giving you an early start with TWO powerful seats. Also, with the buildings Runestone starts with, it's crazy good for the winged knights. When stationed there they have over 500 attack. Absolutely ludicrous. It helps that the Royces are also just a super cool house thematically
Yeah your leader getting ancient bronze armor is also dope
House Osgrey. In my playthrough as Hightowers they (Osgreys) managed to marry all Weber heirs so they got most of duchy land. I've decided to let that slide so they created their own rightful duchy.
I made a custom house on crackclaw point to united the clawmen for the first time! Started out at Dyre Den and conquered all claw lands west and south of us, then the iron throne grant me the vassalage of the rest of the houses.
🦀 CRAB PEOPLE 🦀
I’ve always loved Jason Mallister as a character. I have a whole AU lore document written on my iPad about “my version” of the character. Jason Mallister, his seat of power, Sigil, and backstory is just so damn cool
House Mallister is pretty sick.
@@Soul_Tomato in my version of Jason Mallister I gave him the nickname Krakensbane since in canon he killed Balon’s oldest son and heir Rodrick. Throw in a valerian steel weapon and bam.
"the riverlands, everyones favorite place to burn" rlly got me lmao
Another interesting one in Dorne would be house Yronwood. They are stony dornishmen as well, and they have a historic rivalry with the Martels. When the Rhoynar arrived and established themselves, the Yronwoods were the dominant petty kings in Dorne, and after being subdued, they remained the second strongest house, and also kept quite the grudge, participating in rebellions from then on and so fourth. They are also situated in the Dornish Marches, the border with the Stormlands, so there's also possibility for action there
got them in an upcoming video
15:35 I don't think the castle walks around, I believe it is a wooden (or at least not stone and mortar) fortification build on a crannog, or artificial island, that is likely able to float through the swamplands.
See that makes more sense but I like the idea that it walks 👀
Some more good options
North:
-Forresters, family you use in the Telltale game. Start as counts under the Glovers, so it’s a good starting small option.
-Mormonts, not a very powerful house, but they obviously have Longclaw and a lot of characters that play big roles in the series.
Riverlands:
-Mallisters, very cool house. Jason Mallister is a pretty awesome character who famously crushed an ironborn attack outside his castle and killed Balon Greyjoys eldest son.
-Pipers, decently strong house with a cool banner. Some cool characters have come from there.
Vale:
-Corbrays, home to some of the most famous knights in Westeros and a Valyrian steel sword, Lady Forlorn. Had some very tight connections to the Targaryens for a good bit of their reign. A Corbray famously dueled Daemon Blackfyre for an hour at the Redgrass Field.
Crownlands:
-Darkes/Darkwoods/Dargoods, all three are county level cadets of the now extinct Darklyn’s. Could be fun to try to retake Duskendale.
-Crabb or Brune, two most notable houses in the Claw. Both have had some cool members.
Westerlands:
-Westerlings, the family of Jeyne Westerling aka Robb’s Wife in the books. Were very wealthy and notable house at one point until their silver mines ran dry, could be fun to try to revive them a bit.
Stormlands:
-Conningtons, house gives off a very Griffindor vibe and is home to one of the best characters in the series, Jon Connington. For Roberts Rebellion it is a tough start since you will be at war with Robert and right on his doorstep.
Reach:
-Fossoways (green or red), super cool house claiming descent to the Westeros equivalent of Robin Hood, Foss the Archer. Red branch has much more land, but the Green branch is significantly cooler.
-Osgreys, once mighty house that saw its lands get reduced significantly after Aegon’s conquest and again after siding with the Blackfyres. Most notably the house Duncan the Tall is employed by in the The Sworn Sword.
Dorne:
-Yronwoods, one of the most powerful and rich families in Dorne. Before Nymeria’s conquest they ruled as the largest kingdom in Dorne.
I made about 4 of these total btw so most of the ones mentioned are in there
At this start date baristan has a prowess of 43. Aurther Dayne is 42 at only age 23 😮. Had he survived the ware he would’ve been the known as greatest knight ever
Arthur is already known as the greatest knight in Westeros after his death. It’s the whole crux of ASOIAF. With the death of Arthur Dayne, the idea of good and noble knights died, and made way for the grey and conflicted characters in the story like Jaime to be introduced.
Yeah I think the only one you could argue that still lives up to that former image is Barristan Selmy but he’s also in his 60s at the time of the books.
You have such a smooth voice. Great video, could listen forever.
That’s so nice of you thanks!
leanor velaryon rode seasmoke and leana rode vhagar. So they weren (briefly) dragonriders
Yeah someone reminded me of this but I laughed sadly at the briefly. What a mess that war was.
I recommend starting as a Greenborn culture in Flints Fingers nuckle.
A county called Waterstone. I played Tall and raided the weakest wildlings for a couple extra bucks, blackmailing and extoring vassals as I grew.
My goal was to develop the land and with all the wood farms and guildhalls we were able to complete our goals and after T5ing every main structure I started changing my buildings from development to military and each building cost like 32 gold haha
After being epically Tall I took the Riverland Coast and Iron Islands renaming the Kingdom to the Tides.
Additionally on Tarth there is also a ruined Castle that you can restore which originally served as a seat for the "Evenstar Kings", some of the first Andals who came to Westeros.
I played like 300 hours of the CK2 GoT mod. Starting on Skagos is a really good challenge for long-time players.
House Dayne is fun if you want to role-play the knight thing and raise kids to be King's Guard or Swords of the Morning.
Idk if its in this one too, but playing as the sole heir of a dead house if really fun.
House Reyne has a event chain that let's you overthrow the Lannisters.
House Hoare and Durandon are also fun choices for this.
What makes the CK2 mod so great is Essos. Essos is insanely rich with possibilities. Ik this mod had a big update recently so look forward to that
There's count of House of Salt iirc on iron isles. They are cadet branch of house Hoare who ruled Iron Isles and Riverlands before Aegon's conquest so you can try and restore their glory
I’ve got a video on a few extinct houses coming this week 💪🏻
I like to start with house peake in in Robert Rebellion startdate, because you are in line to inherit the Tarly lands if Randall and his brother happen to „die by accidents“ ^^
Playing as house Weber was my favorite! They start out very small and have one of the best sigils. By the time I got to the end date I sat the iron throne and had Dynasty members and all the important castles.
Ah yes, good old Ed Stark, Lord of Winterhell.
If you are playing in a time period in which House Darklyn is around I recommend them, big dog house in the crownlands with a cool sigil.
Speaking of house Manderly, one challenging and cool playthrough could be restoring them to their ancestral lands in the Reach. Just because of the enormous distance, it would be a very challenging task, not to mention having to fight powerful houses in the Reach
Or do the inverse and try to finish what you started as the Peakes 👀
@@Soul_Tomato yeah but everybody hates the Peakes am i right
@@sergeant_chris6209 probably. They're not exactly good guys.
Honorable mention to House Corbray (Gwayne Corbray was goated) in The Vale & House Harlaw in the Iron Islands for their MANY Cadets Houses & The most educated man in all of Iron Islands
I did about 4 of these videos. Both got their respective shoutouts in those for sure :)
@@Soul_Tomato Ahh mb, should've looked first ty for amazing vids!
The most fun I’ve had so far is trying to become the King Beyond the Wall and being Rhaegar (I imprisoned Aerys and got Tywin to become my ally. Robert didn’t stand a chance 😄)
I read this as King Beyond the Wall as Rhaegar and I was like 👀
@@Soul_Tomato yeah sorry, 2 different, fun playthroughs 🤣
1:00 actually there were several velarions that rode dragons, and they were children of Corlys velarion, you can find it in books about the dance of dragons, or in the house of the dragon show
Yeah but they’re children of a Targaryen too. Velarions are not inherently dragon riders and those who are dragon riders are only so because of their Targ blood.
I really like playing as house Waynwood. A Dutch in the Vale, they have a full claim on Winterfell and The North. Plus a member of house Waynwood can easily end up as ruler of the Vale.
I did a House Tarth playthrough.
After a Megawar, the realm fractured and I was able to take King's Landing, and slowly reform the 7 Kingdoms.
Wow really nice! Thank's. i hope u did it with all start times :D ill going to watch the next :)
I made about 4 of these videos alone but I did do a few series for AGOT
The cadet branch of House Royce are lords of the Gates of the Moon, at the base of the Eyrie. The Bloody Gate was in the Moon Mountains, led by Brynden Tully at start of ASOIAF.
Otherwise great channel & thank you!!
Good to know and you’re welcome!
Ironically my first CK3 AGOT play through was starting at Harrenhal and I took a large portion of the Riverlands, as far west as the Bracken lands and as far west as Maidenpool and up to the bloody gate. I fought the Tullys for independence and won and became a Paramount. All this was done on my first character which was the biggest chad of any character I’ve ever had on CK3 lol
Ironically my second play through started at Lonely Light. It is cool I’ve done like 2 on your list already and I can vouch they are solid areas to start and are really cool to see what they become.
I like playing as a King to an Emporer.
I also like to create new Kingdoms but dislike disrupting balance so one spot I often choose is Oldtown or the Arbor. My ultimate goal is cutting the Reach in half without taking the entire coast or too much land. Usually taking Highgarden is the way to remane dominant without taking everything.
I’m contemplating doing something like that in my Dorne run. Just taking the whole of the red mountains and OldTown / The Arbor and make a Kingdom
My current playthrough, I started as House Vikary of Borrenline because they have house Reyne ancestry.
I then proceeded to marry my daughter to Tyrion Lannister, who was Tywin's heir, in order to get my blood in charge of the Westerlands. And while I did manage to marry Tyrion, there were apparently a lot of assassinations going on that I wasn't a part of that threw a wrench into everything
First Tywin was killed, making Tyrion the lord. Then Tyrion was murdered, making my granddaughter lord, which is what I wanted, but then SHE was murdered while still a child, making Cersei lord. Then SHE was murdered, making prince joffery lord.
I fabricated claims all this time to seize all the lannister lands (which included castamere) and by the time joffery was lord there, I immediately declared war on him to take all his territory. Using allies and mercenaries bought with Iron Bank loan money, I was able to take casterly rock, which got Joffery prisoner and ended the war. And boy sieging casterly rock takes forever, even with a full team of trebuchets.
Unfortunately, DURING the war, by reasons I still don't really understand, some guy in the northern part of the westerlands was able to make a faction and take the paramouncy of the westerlands away from joffery, so even after I won the war, I didn't have that. I did, however, have all the lannister lands.
Now having reclaimed Castamere, i did the restoration of house Reyne and changed our dynasty and sigil and whatnot over. The lannister main branch was removed from power, though their cousins still ruled as my vassals in lannisport.
My status improving to high lordship rather than just lordship made me a more desirable match for marriage. I wed my son to Daenerys Targaryen all the way over in essos. She wasn't in line to inherit their county, but I didn't want or care about one county in essos so I didn't bother assassinating viserys to take it. Interestingly enough, she refused marriage unless it was matrilineal. She REALLY wanted her kids to be Targaryens, but I did too so that was fine, I just found it interesting.
Once they became of age, they started printing Targaryen heirs who would inherit casterly rock and a huge portion of the Westerlands.
I'm hoping to have paramouncy of the westerlands before my targaryen heirs take over. What a fun surprise that would be for the realm. My ultimate goal is of course the iron throne itself, but we'll have to see what the best method of getting there will be. Once upon a time in CK3 I would use a tactic where i'd play a female seductress who would become the lover of a king until I had a boy bastard with him, then tell everyone it was his bastard, then legitimize him, and then he would be next in line to inherit the throne. I havent played CK3 in a long time though so we'll see if it still works.
One thing I find funny about this mod is all the random marriages. It's so odd to see Robb Stark, warden of the north, married to some Hornwood girl and Peter Baelish is just some poor guy married to some random noble lady still living in the fingers and not being part of any court. I'm tempted to play a Peter Baelish run and focusing entirely on scheming and assassinations and such and see if I can make him king in his lifetime. It's really too bad you can't incite other rulers to fight one another or dislike one another. I don't really think it's possible though to take the crown without either kids or conquest, but we'll see!
House Peake is also recommended. Starts off with one County and can easily form a high lordship.
Lore wise, House Peake has a good play through to restoring greatness of their house since they descended from Garth Greenhand. Peake also has alot of history in large events such as the Blackfyre Rebellion and the Dance of Dragons siding with the losers on both.
Things to do are
1. Overthrow Tyrells since most houses of the reach don't view Tyrells as legitimate and other houses have much better claims.
2. Bring back Prestige to House Peake after losing their holdings after multiple failed blackfyre rebellions and uprisings.
3.Continue the feud with Manderlys and take their home in the North as well.
4. If Targs win, seek revenge on the Targs since King Daeron II taking their land.
Like playing as House Peake so much that I did 2 playthroughs and running constant murder schemes on the Manderlys for the House Feud bonuses.
Funny enough I made another of these videos - which comes out next week - and included them in it. They also seemed like my favorite of the bunch next to House Connington.
It’s not lore friendly and a pain to get started, but I just started playing as Jon Snow during the war of the five kings. I removed his loyalties to the nights watch and had him take over Moat Cailin as a vassal to Robb. I love when his parentage is revealed and he gets his own Targaryen Sigil that’s white with a grayish dragon. Joffrey started a war with me and it ended in a ‘stalemate’ as Stannis won the iron throne. I’m currently rebuilding Cailin and building up my armies to try and take it from him.
Sounds like a blast
I wish they’d just flush out mechanics of Westeros and leave essos, except for maybe events pertaining to a Targaryen invasion or interactions with the iron bank. Essos to me just adds unnecessary lag and dilutes the core Westeros experience
Totally fair assessment
The Velayrons were dragon riders. They lost there dragons in the Dance like the Targaeryans did.
They were only dragon riders after marriage to the Targaryens but I suppose that’s not a huge deal.
Actually now that I say that I’m pretty sure that one ‘seed’ of the sea snake is a dragon rider too so never mind.
Playing as the neck in my game. It’s so fun. Playing with the defensive bonuses. I want a war with the iron throne and see what happens
Yeah if you take the twins too you can get some crazy bonuses
Nerd Note, but around a half dozen Velarions were dragon riders. I won't spoil HotD for those who haven't read Fire and Blood, so I'll be vague.
While not a Dragonlord family, because of their wealth and traditional silver gold hair and purple eyes, the Targs married them several times.
Especially during the dance when there were more dragons than Targaryens, house Velarion had a couple riders.
True! but always Half Targ-Half Valerian (or only Valerion in name like a certain someone’s kids)
I always go targ restoration usually as king aerys bastard and start as a young child
One house I HAD to play was House Forrester, mainly bc I played Telltale's GoT...
And they did a decent job implementing that from what I’ve heard. I included them in my top house rivalries video
The Velaryons were definitely dragon riders during the dance of the dragons.
Yeah but they’re all half Targ. The house itself never had a dragon rider who wasn’t at least that.
I enjoy playing as house oldflowers and restoring them back to house gardener when taking the reach back
Im working on an iron man run of that. Great fun.
You were right in every regard. Playing as the Tarths are incredibly enjoyable, just don't know how to make Brienne a knight.
Honestly I’m not sure how either but I do know you can marry her to Rhaegar if he happens to become King and loses his original wife because they are distant cousins.
@@Soul_Tomato Ooh I should've done that. I was going to marry her off to Stannis but then I decided on the heir to House Crakehall.
@@ChaoticFrost_ Crakehall is always a good ally
Been listening to dunk and egg, and now going to start a house webber playthrough. Try and take back coldmoat and maybe go for the reach from there.
Dunk and Egg is great. I wish George would finish it and tell us what happened at Summerhall for real but oh well.
Ive not once played as anything but a new house and it’s the best. It takes forever but it’s the best.
I’ve done one custom run on my own in the North and it was okay. I’m planning one here for the channel in the Reach which I think will be better. The North is just too one note for my taste.
House Velaryon were the only non-Targaryen house to have a dragon actually. Seasmoke.
@@h4vehart true! But seasmoke was ridden by Leanor, who was half Targ. Adam of Hull is a bit more dubious though but if he was Leanor’s son then the Targ (Dragon Rider) blood being a requirement would still stand
Playing House Reed with shattered world is CHAOS
Protect the neck baybeeee
house salt would be cool. may restore house hoare with them and claim whole riverlands.
with the latest upgrade though, in-game, starting character had a cool beard and armor like a dwarven warrior but with 1.9.2 it's gone. and with the 1.9 patch all unimportant characters are bald :)
I’ve not run into that issue widespread but I’ve seen it
So in a nutshell, the second minor houses of each paramountcy, boltens, Mailsters, ryykke, crakehall, Hightower’s & Yronwoods?
More or less. I do plan on doing another one to include some of the even smaller/extinct houses. I just made this for people who are probably less familiar with GOT and don’t know who to pick. But I’m always open to suggestions for smaller houses!
no need for a hook, just modify contract, give more levies (levies are next to useless anyway) and take war sanctions.
Oh yeah that’s true huh
They still may ask you to stop war if another party is quick with petition. I've ignored requests twice, but my house was very powerful at that point, so no retaliation from liege. I now think it can be cool to lure liege to hunt/feast and stomp your opponent while he can't petition.
the Manderleys are really fun but also a bit OP, you can easily make 30+ gold per turn
Lore accurate
There were definitely Velaryon dragon riders
Half Targaryen velaryon riders
you can pin the map with the middle wheel and move the screen that way instead of moving the mouse to the edges everytime. It kinda made me drowsy and couldnt finish the video :(
Sorry to hear!
would love to see a video breaking down the 282 vs 284 start and what possibilities exist
Breaking down how exactly? I think they’re fairy explained as of now but I wouldn’t be opposed.
@@Soul_Tomato was thinking say how does the first 50-75 or so years of House Stark potentially play out differently in each scenario. I saw somewhere the possibility of Robert losing the rebellion - curious how that plays out.
I get he's from a major house and what not but you cant forget Stannis in Dragonstone when on the other start date
The mannis is never forgotten 💪🏻
small remark: the Velaryons were indeed dragon riders, there were a handful of them in the main AGOT storyline wo did ride dragons
also, it is lore accurate for some of the Westerlands minor houses to possess Valyrian steel weapons, as they are rich families, and this infuriates good old Tywin even more
Okay so I wasn’t crazy about the minor houses having blades. And in retrospect I do feel a bit silly about the Velaryon comment since I now remember that there are people like Rhaenys and her kids.
If pointing out that some velaryons were dragon riders it’s also important to point out that each and every single one was a direct descendent of a Targaryen too
@@aaronithink3853 I'm not a massive lore nerd but is it mostly a Targ thing then to ride dragons? I don't think the Celtigars even sniff a dragon from what I remember.
@@Soul_Tomato Yeah, in Westeros only those with Targaryen blood can ride dragons (in Valyria there used to be many other families who were much more powerful than the Targs and had lots of dragons)
@@lucaventinove3151 Interesting. Targs just a big fish in a small pond then.
i really like house darke
Nooo. The Three Eyed Raven is a Targaryen ;)
I'm waiting for the step stones to be added to play as the veleryons. The waves will crash upon the stones, and with it comes fire&blood. I'm not sure if I should play as true blooded veleryons or auranne waters
Bastard is always fun
@@Soul_Tomato that is true. they do always cause the most trouble lol.
I know you said you're not really interested in the Ironborn houses, but one house you should try out are the harlaws. They are descended from house Hoare, who were the kings of the isles and riverlands. I played as them and usurped the grey joys while the bigger lords were fighting each other and rebuilt house hoare, then i invaded the riverlands and the north. Try them out it gets really interesting late game, but move quickly against the greyjoys so you can invade the mainland before they're done their war
Evenstar is from Peter Jackson not Tolkien
Recently I used console commands to set up the seven separate kingdoms again
Interesting. I’ve had it happen after the rebellion a couple times too.
Why is it that the Targaryen house sigil, looks so weird in this mod?
Probably a limitation of the banner maker
I WANNA WATCH A CLEGANE PLAYTHROUGH
I tried to play this mod...but as soon I clicked for "play any ruler" my pc went sky rocket :/ It's that normal? I got 32 gb ram, 3070 rtx and 3700x amd. The base game gave me no problem whatsoever! I had no problem playing way heavier games than ck3 but this mod is weird. Someone knows how to help or have experienced the same issue?
So something that happened to me after the mods recent update was my PC wasn’t using my GPU and instead using the onboard GPU. Check out the NVIDIA control panel and set the program settings just to your 3070. Then try.
forrester bro, forrester
Got them in another video
Starting as house osgrey for me
Great start
Valaryon's were 1000% dragon riders.
Wasn’t it only the 1/2 Targ ones tho?
@@Soul_Tomato Vhagar and seasmoke were 2 very large dragons ridden by Valaryon lords
@@jordanbolen2020 but both of those were half targ half Velaryon riders. Adam of Hull might break this truth though. But I'm fairly sure that dragon riding is why Corlys married Rhaenys -- so his children could become riders.
@@Soul_Tomato that’s not exactly why they were riders, this made them inherit Dragon eggs from the targaryens. All Valyrians can inheritly ride dragons. Atleast for the most part. They don’t need to be a certain dynasty.
1. Do I need legacy of Persia to be able to play Agot again ? Its crashed and I’ve tried different videos on changing the properties and nothing works
I’d really like to play Agot again
I’m really not certain on that regard but you could always ask their discord or Reddit
Question, what do I do if my game says it needs version 1.12.5 to play
How do you play as one of the smaller houses?!?! I downloaded the game and mod and all I see is being one of the great houses!!
Bottom left. Play as any ruler.
Unless you mean the counties. You just have to zoom in with the mouse wheel.
Mine isnt giving me the option to play as a minor house, im not sure whats wrong
I’ve had that happen before in the Robs Rebellion start in the reach
My first ever game was as dorne. Off the bat you side with the loyalists and lose so you get sent to the wall. So you play as the guys daughter. I had her marry and seduce king Robert after first having kids in another marriage and they sadly died. Had all of my kids be of his dynasty but the kids of my dynasty would have a relation boost with the king which was great. Eventually married off Jon Snow to one of my daughters and made him a landed lord in dorne. He died of old age with a lot of kids was great fun doing all these political negotiations while controlling the kings succession in the process. Also the original king became lord commander after Mormont died so basically had my dad become lord commander while I was banging the king.
Fyi I was married to Robert he never got with Cersei for some reason
Gotta love it
@@Soul_Tomato for realsies
For north i go with the fortesters just because i like their lore
Lore from that Telltale game I assume?
@@Soul_Tomato yea the mod actualy has the characters fein the game as the starting people for house forester in the later year start date
Redwyne is always mine
Great spot tbh. Starting in a corner island just feels nice
I know it's such a small and understandable thing but for some reason it makes my asshole pucker when people pronounce *both* Velaryon and Valyrian "Valerian".
My bad
Where do I get the mods?
Steam or nexus would be good
What game is this? I NEED to play it!
Game is Crusader Kings 3 wit the A Game of Thrones mod
@@Soul_Tomato thanks!
essos is not in the game?
Not yet, no.
Any update on this game ?
AGOT? Not recently no.
Did you replace the Blackwoods woth Brackens or am I having a Mandela effect?
I don't know. Did I?
@@Soul_Tomato hopefully. I hate the blackwoods.
@@fantasticgoatac4780 BRÖTHER
Bloodraven is such a Badass why?
@@Puschkin_Entertainment Nothing more than a pawn of the Old Gods.
Blackwood >Bracken
It’s okay to be wrong
@@Soul_Tomato they have the cooler castle as well as sigil. Not to mention being one of the few houses south of the neck to hold faith with the old gods.
And while we’re at it Brynden Rivers>Aegor Rivers
@@jay-1800 Truthfully I personally don't like the Blackwoods because they're about as Mary Sue as possible for GOT. But Brackens have admittedly little to like either. I just root for them because I never liked how much I was "supposed" to like the Blackwoods.
Blackwoods are the cringe option
Agreed. Bloodraven didn’t found the most famous mercenary company in the world and, despite being basically a god, couldn’t even beat his human brother in a duel. Scrub behavior. Bittersteel forever.
@@Soul_Tomato unfathomably based
@mugenspiegal7415 They aren't cringe; its just filthy Bracken slander. House Blackwood is the more well known out of the 2 fueding houses, given Brynden Rivers (Blackwood/Bloodraven) significant influence and triumph over his half brother Aegor Rivers (Bracken/Bittersteel). Brackens have a chip on shoulder, so they'll take any chance they get to take a swipe at Blackwood lol.
@@mugenspiegal7415it’s mostly harmless banter. But Blackwood is often criticized because of how ‘Mary Sue’ they are in the books - basically flawless, cool, and never in the wrong. In a series of complex characters it’s an outlier of author favoritism. Which some people, me included, don’t care for. Plus it’s fun to root for the underdog sometimes.
@@cg3518As is said, it’s just fun to root for the enemy of the Blackwoods when the Blackwoods are presented so uncharacteristically good. Rah rah, go Brackens, fuck the Blackwoods! Horsies forever, the true kings of the Riverland!