Measure for Measure: Quantum Physics and Reality

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  • When no one is looking, a particle has near limitless potential: it can be nearly anywhere. But measure it, and the particle snaps to one position. How do subatomic objects shed their quantum weirdness? Experts in the field of physics, including David Z. Albert, Sean Carroll, Sheldon Goldstein, Ruediger Schack, and moderator Brian Greene, discuss the history of quantum mechanics, current theories in the field, and possibilities for the future.
    This program is part of the Big Ideas Series, made possible with support from the John Templeton Foundation.
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    Original Program date: May 29, 2014
    Host: Brian Greene
    Participants: David Z. Albert, Sean Carroll, Sheldon Goldstein, Ruediger Schack
    Brian Greene's Introduction. 00:00
    The double-slit experiment 4:03
    Waves of probability. 10:50
    Participant Introductions. 17:55
    The classic outlook changed forever. 19:41
    The Norman Ramsey approach to quantum mechanics. 22:44
    The quantum measurement problem. 28:45
    Does there need to be a clear separation between the quantum description and the observer? 31:44
    How does the double slit fit into this example? 38:49
    The many worlds approach to quantum mechanics. 45:48
    If we can't see the other worlds, isn't that equal to believing in god or angels? 50:45
    Summing up the many worlds theory. 59:52
    Spontaneous collapse theory. 1:00:04
    How do you make this theory precise. 1:08:00
    Tallying the votes for collapse theory. 1:13:27
    What is Qbism? 1:14:00
    Does cubism gives a description of the world that needs an observer? 1:19:25
    Two equations vs one. 1:27:04
    The final vote for Qbism. 1:30:20
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  • @WorldScienceFestival
    @WorldScienceFestival  Před 6 lety +131

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    • @Andrew-dj1wd
      @Andrew-dj1wd Před 6 lety +3

      The Slit Experiment appears to be nothing more than Gravitational Lensing similar to what we see with Hubble Deep Field. For one source of light from a distant star passing near a massive galaxy or black hole, we do see several representations of the distant star to the left or right of the mass landing onto Hubble's lens.

    • @Andrew-dj1wd
      @Andrew-dj1wd Před 6 lety

      Translation projects would be very feasible for BYU students (one school) who returned from church missions from many countries of the world and have learned many languages.

    • @beblut
      @beblut Před 6 lety +2

      does polish language interest you?

    • @nicholaslabrecque
      @nicholaslabrecque Před 6 lety +2

      nice stealing veritasiums video you schmucks

    • @rosskilmer8129
      @rosskilmer8129 Před 6 lety +1

      that looks like a cool channel - thanks. But I'm liking this program.

  • @reachnotpreach
    @reachnotpreach Před 3 lety +126

    Just went down a World Science Festival rabbit hole…and I like it here.

  • @jjoannahp
    @jjoannahp Před 3 lety +56

    also at the moment in 2020, so nice to see nuanced and meaningful debate in which each person carries respect for one another.

  • @macthekaczmawrecked4627
    @macthekaczmawrecked4627 Před 3 lety +28

    I feel like trying to keep up with this was the mental equivalent of participating in an 100 mile run with no training whatsoever.

  • @aqu9923
    @aqu9923 Před 3 měsíci +1

    I watched again after a couple of years and am planning to repeat! That everyone showed their side of humour while deepening the understanding of the most fundamental questions is so refreshing!

  • @ScrotumPole
    @ScrotumPole Před 9 lety +59

    can i just congratulate the guys running the screen, their ablilty to display info live in time with the speaker and to run the credits at the perfect time made this production so professional, i do hope continued efforts of this calibre of production can overcome the delusional creationists. keep up the good work.

  • @TerryPullen
    @TerryPullen Před 7 lety +18

    Tip of the cap to the organizers and producers for putting this together, thanks much.

  • @patrickmoloney672
    @patrickmoloney672 Před 6 lety +376

    Why was Heisenberg's wife unhappy?
    Whenever he had the time he didn't have the energy.

    • @jameslewis1605
      @jameslewis1605 Před 5 lety +7

      Knowing that your human eye can only see me if I allow photons to reflect off of my entity I choose dark matter

    • @itsiwhatitsi
      @itsiwhatitsi Před 5 lety +4

      woah

    • @jamesmeritt6800
      @jamesmeritt6800 Před 5 lety +7

      Patrick Moloney, and whenever he had the energy he wasn’t there...

    • @redshield3296
      @redshield3296 Před 4 lety +2

      Patrick Moloney Because she found out her husband, was and running a meth lab!

    • @redshield3296
      @redshield3296 Před 4 lety +1

      Lasr8 LOL! I’m so disappointed you beat me to it!

  • @fellon8019
    @fellon8019 Před 6 lety +25

    Brian Green is phenomenal in the usage of the English language to explain physics and probably many other topics. Probably if it was not for him I would not be listening to this presentation.
    But what do I know for sure... anymore. This stuff could drive a person insane. Last guy on right might be on his way maybe.

    • @mikkel715
      @mikkel715 Před rokem +5

      Sean Carroll is good too. Check his "Biggest Ideas in the Universe"
      Too bad Sean is so much stucked into Many World interpretation.

    • @cesarjom
      @cesarjom Před rokem +1

      @@mikkel715 Sean Carroll makes the best argument for the MWI theory as the way to accept QM without conflating it with other ideas and additional assumptions. It's the simplest interpretation which from a theoretical standpoint has value in the same way Einstein understood the simplicity of the fundamental first principles of SR and GR.

    • @leeds48
      @leeds48 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@cesarjom It may be simple in the sense that Sean can explain it simply and efficiently, and we get what he's saying. But , it's not a simple theory in the sense of being parsimonious, because it posits the existence of an almost infinite number of other universes. To say that every time your dog lifts his leg to relieve himself, he is creating billions of universes in the process - none of which by the way can be detected or observed in any way - may explain away the measurement problem, but it's pretty enormous violation of Occam's razor. You are positing a practically infinite number of invisible entities, to explain what we observe physically.

    • @cesarjom
      @cesarjom Před 7 měsíci

      @@leeds48 I completely agree that the consequence of the MWI (branching of infinitely many realities) is a big leap to make in the intuitive way we understand the physical universe and a philosophical reality. But then I am reminded of a popular contemporary astrophysics' quote "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you."
      It was probably very unintuitive and even paradoxical to imagine this idea of the constancy of the speed of light for any inertial observer, but Einstein postulated this idea as a required principle to develop the theory of SR. Understandably MWI is different level than Einstein's postulate, as it is not seen today how we can experimentally confirm it.

    • @leeds48
      @leeds48 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@cesarjom Yes, I agree that the universe is under no obligation to make sense to us, but those who presume to speak for the universe are under such obligation. Multiverse is just a way to try to hold on to the prevailing current worldview/philosophy of reductive materialism, which the empirical results of QM experiments have been flagrantly undermining since the 1920s.

  • @philipgebhardt3453
    @philipgebhardt3453 Před 4 lety +18

    A brilliant summation of the different interpretations of Quantum Mechanics- I just love World Science Festival

    • @mistypoke6347
      @mistypoke6347 Před 3 lety +1

      YAAAYY it's nice to see the views starting to go up on these sort of videos.

    • @bernieflanders8822
      @bernieflanders8822 Před 2 lety

      @@mistypoke6347 agreed. It's important for people to stop falling for internet nonsense and come back to reality and pull together as a species to tackle problems that are embedded in reality and not just a story to make money from the scientific illiterate and the gullible.

  • @Czeckie
    @Czeckie Před 3 lety +15

    I've came for Sean, stayed for David. He's thinking about every word he says, he's so succinct, yet so effective and clear.

    • @King_Flippy_Nips
      @King_Flippy_Nips Před 3 lety +1

      his wearing of birkenstocks and no socks in a situation where he should be wearing formal footwear kinda rubs me the wrong way, makes it look like he holds himself above everyone else, is he perhaps tenured at berkely?

    • @fallen0851
      @fallen0851 Před 2 lety +3

      “Succinct” is not the word I would use.

    • @feynmanschwingere_mc2270
      @feynmanschwingere_mc2270 Před rokem +5

      @@fallen0851 Rigorous. David Albert's speaking style is best characterized as RIGOROUS. Succinctness is often a bonus.
      Rigor is important when talking about issues this complex. I prefer rigor. Neils Bohr was far more long winded than David Albert ever is.

    • @2CSST2
      @2CSST2 Před rokem

      @@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 I find that sometimes the addition of extra words he does like "univocal" "factual" to a string of other such words really doesn't add much to the rigor of the idea compared to the lost of succinctness. But that's just me

    • @feynmanschwingere_mc2270
      @feynmanschwingere_mc2270 Před rokem

      @@King_Flippy_Nips Berkley has produced more Nobel Laureates, Fields Medal winners and Pulitzer Prize medals, than any school below the Mason Dixon line.
      Einstein never wore socks or combed his hair either 😉

  • @jameslorman4715
    @jameslorman4715 Před 5 lety +10

    There are many many smart people in the physics world, but in my humble opinion, Sean can communicate the knowledge to the layman the most efficiently... Sean is the Boss !

  • @RussellCatchpole
    @RussellCatchpole Před 5 lety +3

    Brilliant discussion! My uneducated thought is, how about it's not the individual particle in the double slit experiment interfering with itself, but all of individually fired particles interfering with each other across all time, because they do not experience and are not subject to time? So in effect it's just like firing them all at the same time, all of the time. We and the monitoring devices only see the particle impact at a particular time, because we DO experience and are subject to time. Therefore, all light exists in all of it's locations all of the time (because it is not subject to time), BUT, the key is that time travels through light, so it only 'activates' the light for us as we experience 'now'.

  • @sigma_six
    @sigma_six Před 3 lety +3

    Science... free of politics and corporate manipulation can be truly breath taking... a thing of intrinsic beauty... that was an excellent discussion, wish I was there to ask a few questions of my own... brilliant, captivating discussion, well done gentlemen

  • @user-fo8lz6om7l
    @user-fo8lz6om7l Před 4 lety +65

    I didn't know when I got into this, that all I ever wanted was to hear Brian Greene say, "This is quantum bullshit."

  • @davidroberts1689
    @davidroberts1689 Před 6 lety +22

    Wow, this is the best Quantum discussion I've heard. Many congratulations to all the Physics Experts they all shined and explained why there is a future in studying physics!

  • @jpdemer5
    @jpdemer5 Před 6 lety +4

    Some people can talk in complete sentences. Some talk in complete paragraphs. Dave Albert talks in complete book chapters - and they're incredibly well-writen chapters.

  • @dr.lairdwhitehillsfunwitha67

    Thank you Brian Greene and panelists. I now know more to confuse me than ever before.

  • @sarrahkramer848
    @sarrahkramer848 Před 2 lety +4

    Every time I felt like I understood a part of this and had a grasp on something they were saying, they moved on to some totally bewildering new sentance 😭 I had a great time holding crumbs of quantum physics though

  • @Equality72521sr
    @Equality72521sr Před 3 lety +1

    THANK YOU!!! for not polluting these videos with ads. I suffer from tinnitus and enjoy listening to lectures like this, ad free, while I relax or go to sleep.

  • @sigma_six
    @sigma_six Před 3 lety +3

    This discussion was conducted in a way, reminiscent of a time when science was lauded as a true and proper philosophy unto itself... something that inspired hope and dignity in the majesty of man's reason... the sense of virtue in truth... these men were speaking their own truths... it was inspiring in a way I haven't experienced in a long time...

  • @pessimist6366
    @pessimist6366 Před 3 lety +3

    I never understood the double slit experiment in my college ..he just made me understand this under 10 minutes .....Well internet is really a blessing ...

  • @invin7215
    @invin7215 Před 6 lety +30

    What a fantastic host! Props to that guy for doing such a good job.

    • @ant7396
      @ant7396 Před 5 lety +8

      He's one of the leading experts on this stuff... Fabric of the Cosmos was written by him.

  • @TNTsundar
    @TNTsundar Před 5 lety +3

    I could listen to Brian Greene all day.

  • @huepix
    @huepix Před 7 lety +2

    in my humble opinion the double slit conundrum is easily explained.
    particles are simply the areas of a feild we can interact with.
    our observer (eye, camera etc) is moving.
    we are moving so our relative motion combined with the (quatum) feild we are measuring determines where we "see" the "particle".
    (the faster the feild of space spins, the more it is subjected to time dilation and space contraction, resulting in tiny areas that change very very slowly over time).
    so the feild goes thru both slits but can only be measured where the feilds motion and the observers motion combine to allow that.
    an easy way to prove this is to measure both slits but in different places. the particulate measurement can be in both places. that is, what we measure as a particle, actually goes thru both slits.

  • @inshanbhattarai5127
    @inshanbhattarai5127 Před 5 lety +6

    This is quite a good one!! Brian Greene is always a good host!!!

  • @peterkay7458
    @peterkay7458 Před 7 lety +4

    THANK YOU B GREENE FOR CREATING THIS LECTURE SERIES!

  • @AppliedMetaphysician
    @AppliedMetaphysician Před 4 lety +8

    I've gotta go with the Everett Formulation. It's been my perception that scientists have a tendency to want to nail 'it" down, for whatever value 'it' has. The Many Worlds view incorporates the idea that, just as we cannot perceive the entire electromagnetic spectrum, there are facets to reality that are beyond our perception.

  • @matteloht
    @matteloht Před 7 lety +2

    Heisenberg and Schrödinger get pulled over for speeding.
    The cop asks Heisenberg "Do you know how fast you were going?"
    Heisenberg replies, "No, but we know exactly where we are!"
    The officer looks at him confused and says "you were going 108 miles per hour!"
    Heisenberg throws his arms up and cries, "Great! Now we're lost!"
    The officer looks over the car and asks Schrödinger if the two men have anything in the trunk.
    "A cat," Schrödinger replies.
    The cop opens the trunk and yells "Hey! This cat is dead."
    Schrödinger angrily replies, "Well he is now."

  • @iaov
    @iaov Před 4 lety +18

    Sean Carroll is awesome ...love hearing his thoughts

  • @rickydyball
    @rickydyball Před 7 lety +40

    Great vid, big Brian Greene fan and love this type of forum. These guys are the real rock stars

    • @nurk_barry
      @nurk_barry Před 3 lety +1

      Agree

    • @realitynowassigned
      @realitynowassigned Před 3 lety

      Theyre intellectuals, not rock stars

    • @gyro5d
      @gyro5d Před 3 lety +3

      President Donald Trump is THE rock star. See the people at his concerts!!!

  • @1shagg420
    @1shagg420 Před 5 lety +2

    I love learning about physics from all the greats that follow different approaches discussing ways to nail down THE approach.

  • @78tag
    @78tag Před 3 lety +1

    Brian Greene does it again. That discussion could have become quite contentious but Brian has the ability to keep it from going there. I also like that the "titles" were left out of these gentlemens descriptions. I don't care whether so-n-so is a professor or a doctor or the doorman - this was a fine collection of men expressing their understanding of the world around us. Good enough for me.

  • @MrBGeonzon
    @MrBGeonzon Před 9 lety +16

    It's 2/6/2015 when I watched this, as of now this is an ENTRY AS THE BEST VIDEO I've seen this year.

  • @-_Nuke_-
    @-_Nuke_- Před 8 lety +50

    Einstein. - Relativity: "Time is relative to relative observers"
    Ruediger. - Cubism: "Probability is relative to relative observers"
    WOW! That blew my mind away...

    • @mrloop1530
      @mrloop1530 Před 5 lety +2

      It didn't take too much, huh

    • @habibnurmohamed8974
      @habibnurmohamed8974 Před 5 lety +7

      Actually it is Qbism

    • @pelimies1818
      @pelimies1818 Před 5 lety +1

      Relative time is quite simple, it is still ONE picture (one reality), that can seem distorted, if compared by observers in different speeds, for instance. Probability with more than one solutions, on the otherhand, leads to different causalities (i.e. different futures), so the saying seems a bit odd comparison.

    • @Alkis05
      @Alkis05 Před 4 lety +2

      Incorrect. Relativity: "Time is relative to relative **frames of reference**"
      It is a statement about geometry. It has nothing to do with observers. That is a miss conception.

    • @karlbarks2219
      @karlbarks2219 Před 3 lety +1

      Relativicism: "Relativity is relative to relative relativities"

  • @halnineooo136
    @halnineooo136 Před 6 lety +2

    1/ Wave and Particle are macroscopic notions.
    2/ Measurement is a process of using an interaction between two systems in order to quantify a variable of one of the two systems. That interaction needs to have negligible effect on the measured variable so that most of the quantity measured would be amputable to the measured system as if it was an isolated one.
    Example :
    Measuring system : lampe and camera.
    Measured system : bellet.
    Measured variables : position and speed of bullet.
    Light is shed on the bullet by the lamp. It hits the bullet and reflects to the camera where it interacts with a sensor so an image is recorded from which the position and speed of the bullet are derived.
    The interaction between light and the bullet has negligible incidence on the energy, speed and position of the bullet for the matter of study. The precision needed in ballistics can accommodate with newtonian physics and neglect energy exchange with light while maintaining sufficient precision for the matter of the study.
    Now think about this concept of measurement on a subatomic level. Do we have such systems A that let us do measures with negligible effect from the measuring interaction?
    It's a scale problem. The tools we have can't interact with negligible effect on the studied systems and variables on subatomic level so to give a quantification of a satisfying precision.
    We absolutely want to project our subjective experience of notions like wave and particle on phenomena that does display some of the periodic behaviour we recognise in our familiar macroscopic waves. Same goes for particle behaviour.
    There is a periodic behaviour as well as discrete behaviour. No need to say more about it nor to make analogies with macroscopic phenomena.

  • @ThePinkus
    @ThePinkus Před 4 lety +3

    Excellent discussion! One beautiful thing is seeing QM interpretation competently discussed from different perspectives, they are all interesting contributions.
    In due time I'd like to comment on each of them.
    For now, I'd say that the question to vote for is not optimally formulated: "is this interpretation worth pursuing?", well, of course they all are (given that all of these are good/interesting candidates)!
    It is by studying a candidate interpretation that we could hope to find its consequences and requirements, and this might result in it's corroboration or in it's refutation. It contributes to the search for "the right one" if we know what is not tenable, and why. Interestingly, we have Bell's inequalities from the study of hidden variable theories, which is a contribution to the whole of QM!
    Once this is considered, I'd propose the vote to be "do You deem this interpretation has a good chance to be part of the right one?" Yes, because, where some of these interpretations have merits, these merits might be part of the solution.
    As a little game, I'll give my "thumbs" to the candidates:
    Hidden variables: down
    Spontaneous collapse: down (double, as in both left and right! Or... could I use my bigtoes too?)
    Everett's many-worlds: up
    Qbism: up
    I do intend those two ups as they are both likely to be part of the solution, as mentioned.
    My preferred one in general? Decoherence.

  • @patrickcallahan6396
    @patrickcallahan6396 Před 9 lety +5

    I'm intrigued. Thank you for my Thursday evening.

  • @DefensorPrime
    @DefensorPrime Před 9 lety +4

    Awesome and humourus stuff!! Very high level and quite amazing how quantum mechanics can explain the behaviour and nature of waves and particles!!

  • @beauferguson9535
    @beauferguson9535 Před 3 lety +2

    Brain Greene is my favorite speaker, regardless of the topic!!!

  • @waynefarley87
    @waynefarley87 Před 3 lety

    watching another presentation had to sign in and got to this presentation. I'll be here until i watch every post. nice because I can "listen" while I work. Great forward movement for me. nothing concrete as everything is in motion but for now, brings [me] up to date. thank you all

  • @MrTJGALLOWAY
    @MrTJGALLOWAY Před 10 lety +4

    Ruediger's eyes are eery. He's like....super focused.

    • @mRzTTeel
      @mRzTTeel Před 9 lety

      lol

    • @druvik2052
      @druvik2052 Před 9 lety +2

      If the guy could speak with numbers, he would be one of the best communicators of science....

    • @glutinousmaximus
      @glutinousmaximus Před 9 lety +1

      ***** There was a young lady called Bright,
      She could travel faster than light -
      She went out one day,
      In a Relative way;
      And returned the previous night...

    • @caldude106
      @caldude106 Před 3 lety

      He’s microdosing

  • @drmoroe
    @drmoroe Před 9 lety +6

    OMG...THE single best content regarding QM interpretations on the Internets (at the time of this typing). :)

  • @alexanderhirst1171
    @alexanderhirst1171 Před 2 lety +1

    Loved this! - baffled the last guy's interpretation was so misunderstood and rejected by the others, though thankfully some sense was brought back as the moderator seemed to agree it most of all ideas put forward

  • @adamsasso1
    @adamsasso1 Před 3 lety

    Is there anyone better at moderating these type of discussions than Brian Greene?

  • @immanny85
    @immanny85 Před 6 lety +5

    Love to see philosophers sitting besides scientists. Nothing better.

    • @King_Flippy_Nips
      @King_Flippy_Nips Před 3 lety

      one would argue that philosophers are scientists and i think universities agree with that point since it is offered alongside the other science fields as a course.

  • @Biddybalboa
    @Biddybalboa Před 9 lety +20

    YAAAYY it's nice to see the views starting to go up on these sort of videos.

    • @King_Flippy_Nips
      @King_Flippy_Nips Před 3 lety

      its all whenever youtubes extremely broken algorithim decides to place it in peoples recommended results

  • @arlieferguson3990
    @arlieferguson3990 Před 5 lety +2

    My vote is for the bohm/deBroglie interpretation. I am not sure what the real problem is with saying that the particles are guided by an energy wave of some kind. The reality seems to be simply that all the particles are there in a way that actually reflects reality. The prediction only seems to come in when we are trying to decide where they will land. I think there or a number of different problems here which makes the whole issue kind of a moving target.

  • @thomasdinnocenzi434
    @thomasdinnocenzi434 Před 2 lety +2

    Great stuff! Would like to see an update video from this channel on where the theories have led recently, and if there are any new findings...thanks

  • @donaldminor6461
    @donaldminor6461 Před 6 lety +3

    Agreed on the part of the wave, there must be a frequency be generated by the particles of whatever they are, which different by what they are made of so the kinds of particles could create variation in the patterns left.

  • @Karriemisskylie
    @Karriemisskylie Před 3 lety +3

    Ahhhh. CZcams has chosen this to be the video I woke up to for today. Quite the find!

  • @magnushelliesen
    @magnushelliesen Před 5 lety +1

    David Albert and Sean Carroll have the most pleasant voices I know.

  • @TerryPullen
    @TerryPullen Před 7 lety +1

    Why can't I find civil discussions like this on the subject of anthropomorphic climate change? These are real scientist challenging each other in a civil way, bravo.

    • @avid0g
      @avid0g Před 6 lety +1

      Terry Pullen, Have any dissenters of ACC been published in the reputable journals? What happen to their theisis?

  • @quakerninja
    @quakerninja Před 10 lety +2

    Thank you for uploading :)

  • @PrivateAccountXSG
    @PrivateAccountXSG Před 9 lety +13

    also, Brian Greene is a damn national treasure, isnt he?!?

  • @rahuladhikari6990
    @rahuladhikari6990 Před 3 lety +1

    These are the real heroes of observable universe.

  • @nathanielmathews2617
    @nathanielmathews2617 Před 2 lety +1

    I swear i wake up to this every other night.

  • @marienikolic6019
    @marienikolic6019 Před 9 lety +114

    "Snaps into one position" sounds like my children. When I am not watching they are everywhere, as soon as I look at them they snap into one definite location pretending they are good all along...

    • @rustykoenig3566
      @rustykoenig3566 Před 5 lety +19

      LOL that is actually a damn good analogy to describe syperposition. Have to remember that one.

    • @richmilito5417
      @richmilito5417 Před 3 lety

      Marie Nikolic I think what is happening here are the evolution of energy “packets”.

    • @Open-DI_239
      @Open-DI_239 Před 3 lety

      Lol 😂

    • @Ghryst
      @Ghryst Před 3 lety +1

      thats just your imagination, same as these "scientists" inaccurate mathematical description of particle locality

    • @Omegamaniac81
      @Omegamaniac81 Před 3 lety

      @@Ghryst do you know something the mathematicians / scientists didn’t / don’t know ? What makes you certain that they aren’t scientists? The definition of scientist is one that studies science, so, what makes you so sure that these people, aren’t in fact, studying science and the scientific method? Also, doubt, may be how one knows they are in fact themself. So you can’t use doubt in a way to disprove something about someone else, as that would then just be YOUR imagination...

  • @TheXitone
    @TheXitone Před 6 lety +10

    This talk is a work of art tho .Sean Carrol is another genius.

  • @remnantwarrior4982
    @remnantwarrior4982 Před 6 lety +1

    Yea, the "other equation" needed is the maths explaining the undiscovered energy field. Scientists limit themselves when they believe they have all the variables understood, or known. There are still fields of energy they have not yet discovered, and are key to understanding those which they have discovered.

  • @MrVikingsandra
    @MrVikingsandra Před rokem

    Another wonderful panel. I'm so glad Sean Carroll is on this one, I just finished another one of his books, From Eternity to Here, 10/10 👏

  • @DinoDudeDillon
    @DinoDudeDillon Před 3 lety +8

    57:25
    "You've converted, you've just realized it!"
    "In which universe!?"
    Low key a really good joke

  • @penelopesnopes6852
    @penelopesnopes6852 Před 8 lety +12

    This is the best channel on CZcams!

  • @binbots
    @binbots Před rokem +1

    General relativity and quantum mechanics will never be combined until we realize that they take place at different moments in time. Because causality has a speed limit (c) every point in space where you observe it from will be the closest to the present moment. When we look out into the universe, we see the past which is made of particles (GR). When we try to look at smaller and smaller sizes and distances, we are actually looking closer and closer to the present moment (QM). The wave property of particles appears when we start looking into the future of that particle. It is a probability wave because the future is probabilistic. Wave function collapse happens when we bring a particle into the present/past. GR is making measurements in the predictable past. QM is trying to make measurements of the probabilistic future.

  • @Guidlen
    @Guidlen Před 4 lety

    Beautiful presentation!

  • @elck3
    @elck3 Před 4 lety +3

    "Probability wave" -- first time i've heard this and it just blew my mind

    • @jasonlay9492
      @jasonlay9492 Před 4 lety

      Iv thought about that while taking a dump

  • @mrloop1530
    @mrloop1530 Před 4 lety +23

    "When no one is looking, a particle has near limitless potential: it can be nearly anywhere. But measure it, and the particle snaps to one position."
    Just like me.

    • @TP-kq9ul
      @TP-kq9ul Před 3 lety +2

      Just like my children

  • @Baraa.K.Mohammad
    @Baraa.K.Mohammad Před rokem

    That was a very great preview of these interesting interpretations...

  • @rodrigoappendino
    @rodrigoappendino Před 8 lety +12

    Quantum Sleeper. Makes you rest in peace, but being alive at the same time.

  • @Steve_1999
    @Steve_1999 Před 6 lety +3

    36:25 I love Sean's facial expression.. lol

  • @kasunperera5398
    @kasunperera5398 Před 6 lety +1

    Love these videos!

  • @arshakmmm4752
    @arshakmmm4752 Před 2 lety +1

    what a great show this was!!
    it was so obvious that philosophical insight of 4 physicists on the left was, as expected, so much deeper, more responsible and wise compared to the math guy.
    God bless all of us!!

  • @ag-bf3ty
    @ag-bf3ty Před 4 lety +15

    "Will we reach consensus on this by 2100?"
    Sean missed a golden opportunity to say "Well in many worlds we will reach a consensus but in other worlds we won't."

  • @hoptoads
    @hoptoads Před 9 lety +16

    Just as a map is not the territory, a theory is not the reality. Both maps and theories are useful, but only as much as they help us navigate through the territory of reality.

    • @iamtherealrenedescartes
      @iamtherealrenedescartes Před 9 lety +1

      Your point is?
      What actual reality is is irrelevant. What matters is the practical application as well as the ability to proceed in our quest for knowledge. The fact that a theory is not the reality does not mean we cannot have an accurate understanding of reality. Likewise, just because the map is not the territory, it doesn't mean we cannot have an accurate understanding of the territory. This is the very reason it is called a "theory" and not a "truth" or "absolute knowledge". But you can't expect anything better from us.
      We are fallible beings. We cannot do any better than have a substantiated explanation of some phenomena supported by facts and experiment.

    • @Tyler-bp4md
      @Tyler-bp4md Před 5 lety +4

      Did you just say that actual reality is irrelevent?

    • @erictko85
      @erictko85 Před 5 lety

      Descartes you may believe everyone has your advanced grasp of science and epistemology. They don’t. Statements like his comment can be useful to them along their learning.

    • @pagogo84
      @pagogo84 Před 4 lety

      I see what you did there....sharrrrp!

    • @2CSST2
      @2CSST2 Před rokem

      Physics is not in the business of making maps but in actually understanding reality. Now you may think that whether they want it or not, all they're doing is making maps. I'd wholeheartedly disagree with that, equations that predict so well how nature acts (to the precision of the width of a hair compared to the whole solar system's width for the Standard Model) are more than just "guides", they actually reveal something profound about the nature of reality.
      In fact, anything you think you need to add to those "maps" to get reality is what's unjustified here. If those equations are *are all* that you need to describe and explain the world, what justifies you in postulating that there's something more, when that extra something adds nothing measurable or testable in any way. Violates Occam's Razor big time.

  • @yourstruely9896
    @yourstruely9896 Před 5 lety +1

    It's so brilliant the double slit so simple and it takes a hundred years to figure out. And what they have to invent to make it stick.

  • @Mollycoddled968
    @Mollycoddled968 Před 3 lety

    Brian Green is to physics what David Attenborough is to the natural world. Hands down the best presenter of physics by several astronomical units

  • @bahramjariam6870
    @bahramjariam6870 Před 9 lety +3

    The simple solution about Quantum Physics issue can be answered in this manner.
    The Future already has happened and we are just following the path of future (Past) or we are cross passing it at its very best.
    In this respect the time as we understand it does not excites either,
    We measure time because we want to know the future time which is already past.
    So when if Quantum Physics shows two electron which can be millions of lights years away from each other but still have direct identical effect when we visualizing it. That is because we are already looking at the past future.
    Regards
    Bahram jarian

    • @googelplussucksys5889
      @googelplussucksys5889 Před 9 lety +1

      Doesn't make sense.

    • @LucisFerre1
      @LucisFerre1 Před 9 lety

      There is the "block theory of time" which postulates that the future and past is as real as the present. Einstein had ideas which went along these lines, but by "the future has already past...", I have no idea what you're talking about.

    • @bai2629
      @bai2629 Před 5 lety

      not necessarily agreeing with Bahram but I believe he is saying the future in a particular worldline could be considered "known" to a degree and is only observed (or confirmed) if that path turned out to be the path that is taken, but can never be predetermined.
      If you know only three outcomes exist for a set of future events, then in a way you can think of events in the future as events you will at a point later than that, be looking back at it as a past event and one can imagine quite easily with a three outcome future, for example.
      Because of Quantum Mechanics, I now think of determinism as the way we used to look at the sky until we found the telescope and saw that the Universe was actually a multiverse of indeterminism.

    • @acetate909
      @acetate909 Před 5 lety

      That's not what quantum theory is about at all. You're describing, very poorly, quantum entanglement. It has nothing to do with past and future since the phenomena happens instantaneously. You have a very fundamental lack of understanding of these processes.

    • @rustykoenig3566
      @rustykoenig3566 Před 5 lety

      The thing is...... Saying that if we separate an entangled particle as far as the other side of the universe....... Is totally 100% speculative. We have not even separated them even as far as the moon so........ just because an experiment shows positave at a distance of say 1 mile...... Does NOT automatically make the distance of 2 miles a positave result. So it is a fucking HUGE stretch to automatically think and believe it to be true at ANY distance.

  • @afrog2666
    @afrog2666 Před 5 lety +10

    "It`s a probabilistic scoreboard and it`s a HIIIIGH probability" 😂

  • @konachan1979
    @konachan1979 Před rokem

    Thank you for this video, this info was amazing!

  • @nathanclark9568
    @nathanclark9568 Před 3 lety +1

    I could sit and watch this kind of stuff for hours on end.

  • @kihondosa4
    @kihondosa4 Před 8 lety +19

    Shack is right, "Problems exist only in the language" , L.Wittgenstein.

    • @christopherrichardwadedett4100
      @christopherrichardwadedett4100 Před 8 lety +3

      A:?
      B:?
      C: Therefore problems exist only in the language.
      Nothing in the world is eternal, says Joseph Stalin, everything in the world is transient and mutable; nature changes, society changes, habits and customs change, conceptions of justice change, truth itself changes ... our conceptions, our "self," exist only in so far as external conditions exist that give rise to impressions in our "self."

    • @kihondosa4
      @kihondosa4 Před 8 lety

      +Christopher Richard Wade Dettling Awesome! Thank you. Applications matter :) www.e-ostadelahi.com/eoe-en/mirror-reflection/
      In regards of "change" I like Bashar's virsion of Universal rules:
      1. You exist.2. The One is All and the All are One .
      3. What you put out is what you get back.
      4. Change is the only constant...

    • @christopherrichardwadedett4100
    • @christopherrichardwadedett4100
      @christopherrichardwadedett4100 Před 8 lety +1

      Language/pseudo-language
      Everything is language?

    • @kihondosa4
      @kihondosa4 Před 8 lety +1

      ОWhy do I think? I shake, therefore, I am.

  • @Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time

    Thanks for sharing!!!

  • @Celine.G.
    @Celine.G. Před 4 lety +2

    I'd love to see Matt from PBS Space Time taking part in that discussion

    • @markortega7999
      @markortega7999 Před 4 lety +1

      i like matt too but he would be wayyyyyyyyy out of his league

    • @johnmasciola1047
      @johnmasciola1047 Před 4 lety +1

      Your so hotttt. And interested in this stuff . double cool

    • @Celine.G.
      @Celine.G. Před 4 lety

      @@johnmasciola1047 lol thanks for the compliment

  • @DickJohnson3434
    @DickJohnson3434 Před 8 lety +7

    I'm sure Ruediger is a brilliant physicist but for public presentation to english speaking audiences, I recommend only english speaking physicists. Without math, it's extremely difficult to convey these ideas and I missed a lot of what he said not only because I couldn't understand the words he was trying to say, but because he himself had trouble finding the words to say. "Cubism" now seems simple and stupid to me when I'm certain the cubist ideas Ruediger has in his head are much more intelligent than the sum total of quantum ideas I have in my head.

    •  Před 8 lety +1

      +DickJohnson3434 Are you mixing Qbism with Cubism intentionally?

    • @DickJohnson3434
      @DickJohnson3434 Před 8 lety

      Piotr Szarański
      No, just showing my ignorance.

    • @jordannyc2769
      @jordannyc2769 Před 8 lety +3

      I have more difficulties to follow the philosopher that wears sandals. His condescending tone, never ending sentences and chosen vocabulary makes him hard to get to me ( I'm not English native speaker) . I'm glad Brian translates him with simple phrases each time he finishes his long monologues

    • @charlesdarwin430
      @charlesdarwin430 Před 8 lety

      completely agree with you

  • @uneedtherapy42
    @uneedtherapy42 Před 4 lety +1

    1:24:20 this summation by David is so profound

  • @AlvinRaditya
    @AlvinRaditya Před 3 lety +1

    Glad to have Vision sharing his genius on this topic

  • @damian.gamlath
    @damian.gamlath Před 8 lety +9

    I feel bad to say this but I'm glad that the host is not Alan Alda or another actor

  • @dannysmith785
    @dannysmith785 Před 9 lety +182

    Phd qualified panelists, pot qualified comments...

    • @radumirceabunica7492
      @radumirceabunica7492 Před 6 lety +6

      and what's your comment about?

    • @edwardaguilar6322
      @edwardaguilar6322 Před 6 lety +1

      Danny Smith this is why academia has lots of B.S.

    • @ruthruthie2931
      @ruthruthie2931 Před 6 lety +1

      Do enlighten us..

    • @sonnycorbi1970
      @sonnycorbi1970 Před 6 lety +2

      So what you are saying is because they smoked a bowl or a joint this nullifies their PHD and all they have ever learned? A WORD OF ADVICE DILLDONESS YOU ARE NOT THE BODY - (where do all these idiots come from and why are there so many of them)

    • @mattlangstraaat3508
      @mattlangstraaat3508 Před 6 lety +1

      Yours included

  • @KipIngram
    @KipIngram Před 3 lety +1

    You know, I have to post this bit from David Albert's Wikipedia page. Apparently he and Lawrence Krause (whom I hate with a passion) have a feud. Krause wrote his "Something From Nothing" book, which Albert proceeded to review very negatively. Albert's point, which I agree totally with, is that ultimately science just has nothing to say on the subject of religion - he wrote this:
    "The particular, eternally persisting, elementary physical stuff of the world, according to the standard presentations of relativistic quantum field theories, consists (unsurprisingly) of relativistic quantum fields... they have nothing whatsoever to say on the subject of where those fields came from, or of why the world should have consisted of the particular kinds of fields it does, or of why it should have consisted of fields at all, or of why there should have been a world in the first place. Period. Case closed. End of story."
    That seems very on point to me. Krause's response to this, in an Atlantic Monthly interview? To call Albert "moronic." How classy and mature. But it fits right in with the kind of character I see in Krause. He and Dawkins don't really "do science" anymore - they've become mere "anti-evangelists." But at least Richard Dawkins has made amazing contributions in the past - I don't really know of anything very meaningful Krause has done.
    Now, don't get me wrong - I think science has plenty to say about some specific claims religion has made over the years. Clearly the world is not 6000 years old. Etc. And it's entirely valid if you want to form your own beliefs on the basis that if all those specific claims are wrong, then the whole idea is probably wrong. I would tend to agree with you in the sense that I don't think any existing major world religion really "has the right answers." When I look back on the history of religion, what I mainly see is a system by which some people sought to wield control over other people (and succeeded). A system of control. And I think many vile things have been done in the name of religion over the ages. But, that doesn't change the fact that on the truly ultimate questions such as "Does God exist?" science just has nothing rigorous to say. Such questions are simply inaccessible to human rigor. All we can do is have opinions and beliefs - not certainty. Krause pointed out a plausible scenario that conforms with modern quantum theory - he "proved" nothing.

  • @buteobuteo9461
    @buteobuteo9461 Před 3 lety +1

    “In the theory where everything happens.. we’re not saying anything about the world we’re in.”
    That blew my mind.

  • @ABC-cr9mi
    @ABC-cr9mi Před 5 lety +20

    We just had five people on stage for 1 and a half hour and none of them talked over each other . We need to have a scientist in the white house ASAP

  • @Zac6230
    @Zac6230 Před 10 lety +21

    Why does the particle assume position when observed? what is the purpose of that to take position, how can that happen? it's not conscious

    • @anngeorge43
      @anngeorge43 Před 10 lety +12

      God has set us at the center of the universe and we have dominion therefore our visualizing a thing makes it the thing it is....Our interaction to everything even at the smallest point effects it in this whole universe...its a God thing !

    • @mirabella2006
      @mirabella2006 Před 10 lety +120

      ann george
      No thanks!

    • @seanfinkelfuck9935
      @seanfinkelfuck9935 Před 10 lety +34

      Upon observation, the photons bouncing around, fixate the apparent location. The act of those photons bouncing around is also the reason one can only know either velocity or direction, not both simultaneously. The photons bouncing off either change direction of speed/slow velocity. ann george, SHUT THE FUCK UP !!!!!!!

    • @seanfinkelfuck9935
      @seanfinkelfuck9935 Před 10 lety +14

      ann george Obviously you don't know a fucking thing, stupid fuck !!!

    • @Zac6230
      @Zac6230 Před 9 lety

      ***** Why do we think it's a simulation? how come I can't control this simulation or at least my own? if it is a simulation what does that mean?

  • @hannahca33
    @hannahca33 Před 5 lety +1

    I love Brian Greene! XO

  • @sum2automation
    @sum2automation Před 3 lety +2

    Very nice, I also gained some more faith in mankind's ability to think outside of the box.
    This life and world is truly an amzing place, how boring it will be when the next generation has all the answer...
    Thanks for sharing your work and ideas. Education is truly changing the world for the betterment of life on our planet, it's almost our only hope for several going forward. :)

  • @Dyslexic-Artist-Theory-on-Time

    Could Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle ∆×∆pᵪ≥h/4π represent the uncertainty of everyday life at the smallest scale with the Planck constant ħ=h/2π being a constant of action in the dynamic geometrical process that we see and feel as the period of time. In such a theory we have an emergent future unfolding relative to the atoms of the periodic table therefore unfolding relative to our own actions

    • @ctakitimu
      @ctakitimu Před 7 lety +1

      No, because there is such a thing as a Heisenberg compensator...apparently

    • @GregorKropotkin-qu2hp
      @GregorKropotkin-qu2hp Před 6 lety

      Yes.

    • @kaarlimakela3413
      @kaarlimakela3413 Před 6 lety +1

      But there is also such a thing as a flux capacitor ... allegedly! ... ;)

    • @michselholiday6542
      @michselholiday6542 Před 6 lety

      I think plank constant s should always apply.

    • @crazieeez
      @crazieeez Před 6 lety

      Yes. The future is uncertain. Every future measurement of position of an electron there is an uncertainty, just like every step you take is different than the previous step, there is an uncertainty exactly your next step. Uncertainty arises from the interaction of light and matter. If light does not interact with matter, all matter are wave superimpose on each other with a specified energy, known as the time independent wavefunction. If light interact with matter wavefunction, it becomes a time dependent wavefunction with a definite position in spacetime.

  • @izzyplusplusplus1004
    @izzyplusplusplus1004 Před 9 lety +4

    When electrons move in a straight line do they not produce an electromagnetic field? Why is that not a part of the considerations for the electron action?

    • @mojo5093
      @mojo5093 Před 5 lety +1

      wow good point

    • @d.b.cooper1721
      @d.b.cooper1721 Před 5 lety +1

      Because 'under acceleration' is the main game.@@mojo5093

    • @LeytonSchiebel
      @LeytonSchiebel Před 5 lety

      Do they really move in a "straight line" though?

    • @LeytonSchiebel
      @LeytonSchiebel Před 5 lety

      Precision in one (position) constructs the uncertainty in another (position)

    • @ryccoh
      @ryccoh Před 4 lety

      Not at constant speed only under acceleration. Going in a circle an object is always accelerating

  • @datboidominican
    @datboidominican Před 2 lety

    Listening to this powerhouse of room at work has made me think way bigger and while I still don't understand the term quantum to its entirety, I believe that the double slit experiment brings to light a phenomena that general physics itself can't explain. Though coming across many theories, its made me think about the actual possibilities of how they could apply to the universe. Perhaps there isn't interference during the double-slit but that the light particles are reaching the wall in the back because of not only the light source but also from the space where the light source is also coming from and it is getting through both slits in order to light up the room, similarly to how heat is a one-way action. But then, on another side there is this thought that if it goes down to probability(as I personally inferred from a part in the video above), then we are 1 of a million of millions that had a chance of being born and we live in a mutliverse.

  • @jakewalko1632
    @jakewalko1632 Před 5 lety

    This guy really knows how to give a presentation. A+

  • @frankney8284
    @frankney8284 Před 7 lety +4

    A quantum mechanic's vacation
    Left his colleagues in dire consternation
    For while it was shown
    His speed was well known
    His position was pure speculation

    • @acetate909
      @acetate909 Před 5 lety

      These uncertainty principle jokes are probable(y) hilarious to a probable degree.

  • @Mrpjm200
    @Mrpjm200 Před 9 lety +3

    This was interesting, but the four proposed theories each have their own flaws:
    The Many Worlds theory implies causes a serious conservation of energy violation. It also implies (a massive) infinite alternative number of alternate worlds. In just a standard double slit experiment the photon could in principle be detected on the vast majority of the screen, each alternate world would have to exist to capture all possible outcomes. So even in this simple example there is an infinite number of worlds.
    De Broglie-Bohm: This was stated as not being subject to randomness, but then the wave guiding the particle is described as a probability distribution (implying randomness in where the particle is found). Imagine if you had a probability distribution that was fairly flat e.g. the particle was equally likely to be found anywhere. The final position where the particle lands is still essentially random. In this situation how does the guiding wave influence the particle?
    Spontaneous collapse sounds like an interesting theory. The maths however lacks elegance, and this remains me of what happened to the maths when we insisted on maintaining a geocentric cosmological view. This was where the equations describing the path of planets in the night sky became more and more convoluted as we struggled to maintain the assumption that the earth was at the centre of the solar system.
    QBism doesn't explain how the wave function collapses to a particle. It appears to ignore what happens at the point of wave function collapse. This seems like the Copenhagen interpretation, and therefore doesn't help us to understand reality. In this video he actually states that this theory doesn't explain the collapse.
    In my view Tom Campbell seems to have the clearest explanation of the measurement problem.

    • @surrendherify
      @surrendherify Před 6 lety +2

      SolarTools Many worlds does not violate energy conservation in the slightest. As Sean has said, it is taking the Schrödinger equation seriously as describing the evolution of the system at ALL TIMES (as opposed to every other interpretation really), and the Schrödinger equation has energy conservation built into it.