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Some of the best Space marine Chapters aren't the most well known, no one exemplifies this more than the Crimson Fists
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TLDR ; What happens when Rogal Dorn and Guilliman have a child
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Dorn: *STARES MENACINGLY*
Still waiting for my chaotic marine mini to arrive
Can you do an another Versus video between a Space Marine and Kratos From God of War?
Still waiting for Roboutian Heresy but I know it will take some time
Remember Major, Rogal knows your location (you actually got killed before)
You have to at least change your address every 5 minutes to make such a claim.
Always enjoyed the theory, Templars are the embodiment of Dorns rage, Crimson Fists are his humanity
Every primarch has successor chapters that accommodate different parts of their personalities
And the imperial fist are his LEGO!
@@Directo13 more specifically his love for lego
@@Directo13 or his stubborn pride
We are the emperor's fury , his sword and his champions , we are the greatest of the autistic and our crusade will never end
Also the crimson fists have the best quote in 40k:
"You've lost an arm, Alessio! By the mercy of the Emperor, you're lucky not losing your life as well! -- I haven't lost my arm, brother! It's right over there! I'm still in this! I'm fine!" - an exchange between captain Alessio and Pedro Kantor.
Only a Son of Dorn would say such thing.
@@StumpyDaPaladin Oh ma emperor, brothers! I like just lost ma hand. This is like totaly crazy and awesome cuz now I am like my primarch!
He was joking but only to prove he was still capable of fighting.
This gives me Monty Python vibes
Excellent conversation!
Funny how rogal, one of the few primarch who hated the codex and didn’t want his legion to separate, Has the most popular successor chapters.
Because we are the best
Oddly, besides Black Templars, Rogel Dorn has some of the most codex compliant chapters as well.
Once he accepted the Codex, i'm sure he did his best to implement it as best as possible.
One of the worst things about being a Templar and Crimson Fist fan is the connection to Dorn and the Imperial Fist
@@stankobarabata2406every wall has two sides.
Rynn's World is a great read. Pedro Kantor carrying the mother when she can't walk any further is one of the most wholesome 40k moments
Are you a prophet?
That moment made me tear up. Such a human moment from one of the greatest marines in all of history. Really nailed the “hope rising from the grimdark” that is my favorite part of warhammer
I remember that, in an older Space Marine Codex, it was told, that it wasn't imperial reinforcements, but Craft World Eldar that stopped the Waaagh! on Rynn's world, because of some prophecy that saving them will help the Aeldari or something, but I guess that had been retconned.
The Eldar did make an appearance and did help the Crimson fists, but the Fists wouldn't have accepted the Eldar's complete and obvious help
In a short story in the omnibus their is the Aeldari saving Pedro Kantor as his death will doom them
Eldar randomly appearing to save a human for a doom prophecy is TIGHT
SM codex, 4th edition. I had in hand in this moment, and you are correct, while of course Major is correct too. They where saved by a small horde of Orks by some Eldars, while they where purging on the mountains of Rynn, and after being saved by the space elves, they were (supposedly) able to defeat the orks. So Pedro could rebuild his Chapter, only to be destroyed by demons and mega-saved by Ultraberries and GrandadSmurf.
@@TheRewasder97 sounds like it was pretty easy, barely an inconvenience
The Fists are legit bros. I always appreciated that their story involved straight up bad luck. That happens in war; shit just goes south sometimes. What matters is how you pick up afterward!
meanwhile the lementors are the eternal luck battery of 10000 Dominos
@@juliancalero8012 Yes, but the Lamenters were already screwed by virtue of being of Blood Angels descent, as in blessed with red thirst and black rage.
@@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623 they're literally cursed with unluck, gellar field malfunctions are bad and unlucky but *warp drive* malfunctions are rare and almost never happen
They haven't got it as bad as my beloved Lamenters.
Me: Man I love the Crimson Fists, I wish Majorkill had a video.
Majorkill: G’day Guys and Gals!
You mean Guys and Gal
@@evitanigaminU Riiight, I forgot he lost that second female viewer.
Crimson gifts?
The Crimson Fists were actually because of an Imperial Fist named Kye, who in defiance of Dorn bit open his hand to make it bleed. It was some sort of gang thing from his world. Dorn respected his defiance, and that Kye was basically his unofficial bodyguard. It's all in the book Praetorian of Dorn. Kye would have been chapter master, but he died, so Dorn made the Crimson Fists be the shield, to the Black Templars sword. If you want another good book, Battle for Rynn's World is the one to go to for Crimson Fists.
I thought it said Kyle at first
Nice! Makes it better that my name is kye lol
His other name is Archamus for those wondering
Let’s be honest, the Crimson Fist were peoples first introduction to 40k and Astartes in general by gracing the cover of Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader, also the first box set of plastic marines were cast in a pseudo navy blue with the CF on the cover of the box….the example scenario was The CF lead by Pedro Cantor against Throgg Bullneck and his ork raiders (which was also available, but in cast pewter)….just a bit of info from an old guy that remembers 40k when it was first advertised in the US in Dragon magazine
@May
Bot Alert!
That kinda awesome. I knew that were old, but not THAT old.
@@woaddragon , they predate the Primarchs.
Yes. This ^^^ (from another old git who still has his RT rule book)
I just turned 21 and found 40k people like you should have a chanel about the history of 40k as a brand
I hope Pedro Kantor will get more of the spotlight in upcoming stories.
I hope so too, although I bet if/when he pops up again he’ll probably have undergone the primaris surgery. Would be sweet to get a new model of the guy too.
@@jo_ken Yeah for me when Pedro helped the mother and children on Rynn's world, it made him my 2nd favorite character just behind Dante. I thought I read somewhere that Pedro did cross the Rubicon Primaris, but I could be mistaken.
If I recall correctly, the Crimson Fists were the first space marine 'chapter' GW did. All the earliest space marine artwork is of them. So... technically, in a way, you could say the Ultrabois copied them, just less interesting with no excuse.
Yessssss
They’re literally on the cover of the first edition Rule book (Rogue Trader)
@@gregorde Legendary book cover
The Crimson Fists are as vanilla poster boys as the smurfs, only more likeable and less glory hounds. And they never had the misfortune of having had Matt Ward as their number 1 fan.
They where on the 1st edition (Rogue Trader) cover and the same artwork was used as a 2nd edition rule book cover.
7:30 My head cannon for explaining this is the Warboss Snagrod sent in ork kommandos so that the Crimson Fist's defense weapons would target their own ships, leaving them open for an attack. Hard to believe? Well, Warboss Snagrod was known for using ork kommandos before invading an imperial world, for example killing off the astropaths on a world so they can't call for help. Warboss Snagrod was a really kunning ork.
That's my reasoning for this random event happening.
That's a pretty dope theory
that or the alpha legion being the alpha legion
Something random happens in 40k? DAMN ALPHA LEGION! everysingletime
Alpha Legion disguised as kommandos and kommados disguised as Alpha Legion disguised as kommandos
He actually used Crimsin Fist tactics.
im saddend you didnt mention Rynn's Might the land raider that went on to kill a ton of orks by itself without a crew
That and along with the long buried dreadnought that fought with the Black Templar's were good stories.
I REMEMBER THIS....that machine spirit was SALTY AFFFFFFFF
Chad boxy-boy vs virgin orks. They had no chance. 😊
"I'm here to transport battle brother and kick ass and I'm all outta battle brothers"
- Rynn's might
Black Templar land raiders have been known to go solo too.
The imperial fists are imo the coolest loyalist legion and also spawned the coolest successor chapters like the black templar and crimson fists.
*L A M E N T E R S*
But yeah they are cool
*ALPHA LEGION*
Well, they could be loyal idk
*RAVEN GUARD*
but yes I do love Imperial Fists, I also like White Scars. Essentially i like too many chapters, i adore Space Mariens
Crimson fists: when you want to paint ultramarines but you want cool lore to go with your paint scheme. That and you REALLY hate orks.
and you don't dig painting yellow... ;p
If you REALLY hate orks and operate on a galaxy brain level, you'll play Valhallan Guard, obviously fielding Commissar Cain and his faithful aide, Gunner Jurgen.
So so true. Love the idea of Imperial Fists bolter specialisms, and the Ultramarines colour scheme but don't like yellow and don't like jack of all trades, so this is the answer :)
"Vulcan reappeared then died again" - had me spit my drink😂
Edit: When fighting the Orks do note that COLORS will have varying effects...
Blue is SuPah lUcKy.
And Red is FaStaH.
The whole reason the Imp. Fists died at the start of the War of the Beast, man. Yellow makes things more 'splodey. And boy did the Imperial Fists explode....
Polux has always been one of my favorite Imperial Fist characters. I mean, Polux has the one honor that even Dorn could not claim: Polux befriended an Iron Warrior (loyalist, but still counts), Barnabas Dantioch. While Dorn and Perturabo will get at each other's throats, Polux and Dantioch dropped their rivalry to combat the traitor Night Lords who had their eyes on the Pharos Lighthouse. Sadly, Dantioch would not survive the aftermath of the battle, and Polux would be the lone pallbearer at the loyalist Iron Warrior's funeral.
Thank you for giving the Crimson Fists attention. OG poster boys deserve more love than they've been getting.
It always bugged me that Astartes chapters only have 1,000 marines. Just like Rinn's world, a tragic accident or well placed enemy mega weapon would obliterate a large amount of them. 1,000 would be okay for assassins, solo military advisor dudes or spec ops, but not for frontline soldiers. Again, for me, this is another situation whereby it's best to multiply the numbers by 10 at least. Even 30k legions seem too small considering the scope of Big E's ambition and the crazy weaponry/forces arrayed against them.
Yeah, like in a Universe of Uncountable Humans to "Protect" there's only 1000 per Chapter. Something about these Scales don't work out.
the minimum size of the legions of space marines in the great crusade was 100,000, except for the thousand sons and the emperor's children, I think the ultramarines had 740,000 legionnaires
Tbf it's not like Astartes are expected to hold the front line at all times, they are used more as a elite strike force to take down specific targets or positions, while assassins are also good at this you can't really send 50 assassins to kill 1000 orks.
1000 per chapter but innumerable chapters...
I like majorkills way of thinking of warhammer numbers just add an extra 0 to the number and you're good
316 is closer to the number of crimson fist left once the survivors reach new rynn city according to the book. There where about 300 marines stationed at new rynn city.
not by the end of the siege there werent, but Majorkill isn't one for precision on numbers and such, so....chill, its all good man....they're mostly primaris now anyways
@@00dmb5 he states its less than 200 when kantor reachs new rynn city that was the fact i was checking. Its about 200 at the end of the book.
Right so i just fact checked myself and there is a typo in my copy of the book at one point it states 218 and in the next chapter its 318.... and by the end of the book its about 100
In the Rogue Trader lore, the crimson fist monastery was actually destroyed due to a very lucky shot from the orks blowing up their armouries of the fortress monastery which even going by Ork shooting standards sounds a hell of a lot better than them accidentally nuking their own base
Now, we simply need to await the return of their hidden successor Chapter: The Crimson Chins.
Chapter Master Redbeard
Nah. Red beards are for squats and the sons of Russ.
They need a name to reference those mutton chop mustaches.
Reference to the house of Austria? Being that the crimson fist are mainly of Hispanic ethnicity and the fact that the golden age of the Spanish empire was when the Austria ruled them... And that the Austria were inbred with a very nice chin
The Crimson Fists are one chapter I'd genuinley consider playing on Tabletop. They've got cool lore,art and a nice colour scheme.
they are my army of choice, i really appreciate the lack of gold all over them when painting
Probably Crimson Fist is the Closest thing to a Space marine Chapter with Common Sense that doesn't get shat on by the Inquisition....
Poor Celestial Lions
I swear to the Emperor. I was just thinking yesterday why hasn't MajorKill done a video on Crimson Fists? I even searched all his videos cause I thought for a minute that he maybe already did.
Then I wake up and see this and that's when I fully realized. Majorkill is one of the Emperors Chosen ones
The part where Chadro Brodor picked up and carried the mom and her kids was a super wholesome moment
GW had the Fists as their poster Space Marine boys in 2nd and 3rd Edition before they decided on pushing the blue berries of the Ultrasmurffs
Perhaps the reason Crimson fists are destroyed by Ork Waaagh was: being level headed can get you unlucky in 40k
2:20 Emperor being corpse kept alive by Cold Fusion-powered golden toilet(that uses psykers' souls to be called 'cold fusion'(in terms of breaking laws of conservation of energy) power) are more fitting
probably mentioned elsewhere in the comments: These were the Rogue Trader era poster boys of the game, these were the original Ultra Marines before the modern lore was set. These guys are iconic as the first entry into 40k for some of the more elderly of us here!
The book "rynns world" was (i think) the 2nd book in the spacemarines-battles series and one of my first WH-reads and boy was that awesome!!!
Glad you talked about the Crimson Fists today my friend. They are pretty cool
As person with spainard heritage, I love the fact that crimson fist 👊 is based on Spain's trío legion during the peak of the Spanish empire. Thats why most of the crimson fist marine has spainard names Including mines! 😁
so perhaps spaniard and latinos space marines chapter?
@@ricardoortega5691 pretty much! Just read more crimson fist lore and you notice the multitude spainards 🇪🇸 references.
@@messageinthebottle1673 as mexican and part of latin american heritage it would be cool to be a crimsom fist!
I remember reading a short story of the Crimson Fist. It’s called, 'One Hate'. I fell in love with them after reading that.
I've been waiting for this video since I came across your channel two years ago!
Some missed cool details though:
- The land raider "Rynn's Might"
- Black Templars and Crimson Fists working together during the Declates Crusade in integrated squads (they painted their armor to commemorate their respect for each other too. Templar would paint one of their gauntlets red, and the Fists would have the Templar cross on one of their knee pads.
- Captain Alessío Cortez
Keep rocking the content🤙
I think it was implied that the Orks used sorcery or some unknown technology to turn the Fists missle against their fortress.
It’s also fun to remember that Alexis Pollux was so physically huge that he could match terminators in size, I think he was even as tall as them without his armour. That and when he first met Guilliman, Pollux was still severely wounded and recovering after the Phall system conflict and an unhappy travel through the warp that didn’t help matters much, and yet Roboute was still kinda surprised at how he was nearly at eye level with a legionnaire.
In short, the guy was absolutely huge.
If you think about it... without any special traits, any special weapons, any special named characters they were able to do things that normally other chapters would fail at or have much worse times with, and with not even half the numbers. absolute chads
Crimson Chads
Not gonna lie, I was hard-core tempted to include Pedro in my work. Cantor is a beast!
YOOOO hi AFWTMT didn’t expect you here.
@@anaveragenightlordsfan
No one ever expects the inquisition!
Or a fan with too much time!
Rynns World is a great book. I grabbed the Omnibus and looking forward to reading it. They're not my Templars but it is refreshing to read about a Chapter that cares about its People beyond using them as cannon fodder.
I still do not get why everyone loves the Templars so much, they are basically world eaters minus Angron's autism
@@Slenkamure you pretty much already said why. They have a cool Founder in Sigi and while acting like the World Eaters aren't tied to the garbage that is Angron. Someone on here posted that the Templars represent Dorns Rage and some like the Crimson Fists represent his Humanity.
@@ReverendPONT they are incredibly boring though
I kinda like this one. Hopefully you can cover some more of the lesser known chapters like the hammers of dorn, the red scorpions or the angels of vengeance.
Majorkill, dude, thank you for gracing my favorite chapter with your commentary and insights!
I love the Crimson Fists, second only to the Iron Warriors
PLEASE do Angels Resplendent/Penitent. They are incredibly fascinating Blood Angels successor chapter which has probably one of the most chilling and unsettling developments in the setting. They are part of Dark Coil, series by Peter Fehervari which I can safely say is the darkest side of 40k. And Dark Coil has some other great things like Arkhan Confederates or Last Candle Sororitas.
I recall reading a bit about the Crimson Fist trek across the continent. Basically at one point they picked up a civilian woman along the way who was carrying a child, she went with them but the Chapter Master explained that they can't slow their pace for her.
The woman accepted and kept pace with the Space marines for a considerable distance (can't remember how long but I think around the halfway point) before collapsing from exhaustion unable to keep up.
Only for the Chapter went up to her and said something along the lines of "You carried this child all this way, it is time someone did the same for you." and proceeded to carry the woman and baby the rest of the way.
That is something I always love to see, the nobility of the various characters that shines through the darkness.
Aah.. Grimson fisters are back for the joy of all😉😬😭
Hey Majorkill I only recently found your channel but you got me interested into learning more 40k lore and I love your humor so thank you
Duuude you be pumping out tha vids lately! Mucho thankyou :D never disappoints.
Bloody hell, glad you had a video on the Crimson Fists. I was painting World Eaters with an old class mate. And he told me that he collected Crimson Fists back then!
Appreciate the amount of quality content. Thank you!
Best moment in 40k lore Pedro picks up the mother that has given it her all to keep up with the Crimson Fists while carrying two kids and he tells his warriors to pick the other survivors and that they are made to protect the people of the imperium!!! He’s a mix of Vulkan and Russ, caring about the people but going full berserker when fighting the warboss
my main army has been the crimson fists since the very early 90's ( the front cover artwork of the rogue trader rulebook may have been a strong influence lol ). its always good to see more people take an intrest in pedro and the lads !
The artwork for Pedro Kantor looks so badass. 👌
it's cool to see the old RT chapters are still around and kicking.
sure, these guys aren't as popular as the ultramarines. but it is neet to see that they still have some current day lore . and that updated coverart looks pretty cool as well.
I really like the crimson fists. Behind the Lamenters and Salamanders they are one of my favorite chapters. The humanity they show is awesome and leads to some badass moments. One of my favorite moments is when Pedro literally carries a group of civilians despite being under constant ork attack. However he also is constantly torn between helping them or doing the smart move and leaving them behind so the marines can stay ahead of the orks. It is really interesting.
Crimson Fists are awesome, I wish they got more time in the spotlight and a new miniature for Pedro Kantor.
The crimson fists are probably my favourite non first founding chapter, have been waiting for this for a while. Great video
My favourite chapter, thanks for finally doing them :)
When Pedro Cantor picked up that mother who was carrying her child, trying to keep up with space marines in power armor, made them my second favorite chapter. my first being Space Mongolians. I mean Talskars.
My favorite chapter for obvious reasons thanks Major Kill made my day
One of my faves. Both Guilliman and Dorn are my favorite Primarchs and these guys are just great
The crimson fists where the chapter I first painted, big thumbs up for this vid mate!
Never give up! Never surrender! - Pedro Cantor, Galaxy Quest
I love the way you explain the lore
I’ve been waiting for this
Majorkill i loved your crimson fists vedio i think you should do another video on other famous chapters such as the raptors, the howling griffons, the mentors, the novamarines and many more
First Chapter I ever painted. Glad to see a video on them
I've gotta be careful drinking and listening to Majorkill. So many times I've come close to spitting up my drink out off sudden explosive laughter.
Immediately fell in love with these guys when a friend who got me into Warhammer told me about them, and boy do I wish they were the popular poster boys like Ultramarines
Love watching major kill at 1 in the morning 😎
that was awesome, hilarious and informative.
I really like how he narrates the lore
Hey Majorkill I recommend you making a video about the Executioners
Always been under rated, and have the best 40k illustration ever with the 2nd edition rule book.
I can't wait to see what Henrry does with Warhammer. Just so much dope Lore, never ending too.
Can we get more ork lore? The absurdity of their existance in the 40k universe is just hilarous
the "bow to me" at the end always makes me jump scare. i would be a terrible SM but apparently i have all the requirements of a good, living, guardsman.
I love your content man thank you
Ah yes, those guys who are always surrounded by enemies and has that one dude in the center raising his fist in the air in every codex artworks.
I can't see anything about the Crimson Fists without listening to BoltThrower in my head.
I hope we can get more crimson fist novels and maybe we will get a fucking updated pedro kantor mini (also the man who read rynns world for the audio book, and his techmarine voice is just amazing)
>with billions of khornites
Don't remember which one it was, but wasn't there a battle/crusade which took less than that in dead guardsmen that you often brought up?
Been waiting for this since adorn made his debut
This is by far my most favorite part of space marine faction. If there ever is a triple-A tv show in 40k universe they would be the one to star in it. I think telling a story from 40k universe from their perspective would confuse average viewers the least.
You got to do the Astral claws next!
this is my favorite chapter
Papa Pedro is also incredibly human, he carried a mother and child that had survived when they could not walk any longer. :)
as a player from the late 80's, these are the poster boys of the game. Thanks for the coverage!
Hey Majorkill, can you cover the Dark Angels succesor chapter that doesn't feel bad about the Fallen or any or any other succesor chapter from the Dark Angels.
The Angels of Absolution?
Yes!
Thanks for reminding me.
@@Jack-0-lantern Yes! Thank you for reminding me.
Crimson fist are my favorite imperial fist successor, they have some of the stuborness from dorn but also a lot of nobility and kantor is a great guy, it's funny you talked about when kantor meet guilliman since we know guilliman also meet hellbrecht but a wasn't as nice toward him compared to how he was toward kantor, truly one of the best son of dorn here :)
Not that big of an Imperial Fists fan, but their successor chapters all kick ass
Remember that the Primaris Captain in Gravis Armor is now available for Pedro Conversions in the tabletop. Power fists and storm bolters included in the kit.
Pedro and his brothers are supremely badass
The Soul Drinkers weren't an Imperial Fists successors, they're implied to be the descendants of the lost Legion that was specifically implied to have been destroyed by The Space Wolves for the reason of genetic defects in their Primarch (again this is all implication based on the Horus Heresy Novels and even then there are canon conflicts about the founding date for the Soul Drinkers).
The new Soul Drinkers Primaris chapter specifically uses gene-seed from Rogal Dorn so it's pretty clear that this chapter is more or less a tribute to the OG lost legion...
At the very least I'd say they're adopted sons of Dorn. They bleed with his true sons during the activation of the Last Wall Protocol, they're kin alright.
Crimson Fist: Imperial fist in blue armor but not ultramarine blue
Primaris Elizo Cortez is at the top of my wish list every time
there are so many good battles too brooo
Btw the intro animation is just amazing
They are my favorite and well 1st ones I read about. I remember buying the ork box that had them. SO like years ago when warhammer didn't have all it has now.
YES! The absolute best chapter imo