Running GEAR Oil in an ENGINE!!! (EXTREME PRESSURE)
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2024
- Can you use Gear Oil in an Engine? Let's Find out!
Most people believe that Gear Oil is much thicker than Engine Oil, and putting it in an engine would destroy the motor. So I put that theory to the test. I check oil pressure with 20W-50 Engine Oil and 75W-85 Gear Oil in the engine. Then I perform some Project Farm/Engineering Explained Lab Experiments to reinforce the Oil Pressure Experiments.
The Results Might Surprise You!
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00:00 Introduction
01:11 Why Does Gear Oil Stink?
01:33 Oil Pressure: 20W-50
03:27 Oil Pressure: 75W-85
06:44 Lab Experiments
11:05 Explanation of Results - Auta a dopravní prostředky
One of these best engine oil videos I’ve ever seen!!!👍😸
I really appreciate that. Thanks for watching 👍
Dude straight up man! Such straight to the point. Like he stabs you with strong points picks out on the what if this or that and he’s like I got that covered for you doubtful minds. So many facts!🎉
What about using redlines light weight shockproof on that engine 🤔
What’s your thoughts on that?
I had to look that one up 👀
@@freedomworx😂
This is the first time in a while somebody's been able to keep my attention on CZcams this guy is the perfect mixture of chaos and informative
I appreciate the kind words. Thank you for watching 👍
@michaelrogers9971 Oh Man! Such a good comment, wish I thought of it!
@@freedomworx It honestly reminds me of the golden age of Discovery Channel when they had shows like Mythbusters. Those shows got so many people into doing proper science with writing results and minimizing variables.
You have them to thank for how people pick on your variable control.
@@ruediix it’s a good point. Everyone who ever watched Mythbusters or a Gale Banks CZcams video, is now a licensed Professional Engineer or applied physicist 😂
@@freedomworx love you technical skills and your humour. The bit that really got me was :where’s my balls?there they are!I had to borrow them off my wife.!😂
Had an old beat up and battered maverick back in the 80's. The engine was completely worn out and burned/leaked more oil than the exxon valdez. I used to drain 5 gallons at a time of waste oil out of the tank at work and carry it around for use in that old maverick. That waste tank had a mixture of used motor oil, auto trans fluid, gear oil, brake fluid etc etc....you name it and it was probably in there. I ran that old worn out maverick for several years entirely on what came out of that waste tank. Never had a single mechanical engine failure and the old gal was still running when i sold it after 350 thousand miles. Sometimes you gotta' do what you gotta' do to keep things rolling down the road a bit longer. That old maverick was a prime example of use what you can afford and hope it works out, fortunately it did
That’s hilarious. Whatever it takes 😎
I had a 77 Chevrolet Vega that leaked & used oil & I did the same thing using used oil and kept 2 spare gallon milk jugs in the back of the car to add oil to the engine once it got low on oil and the oil light coming on . I bought that car for 50.00 & had it for 6 months as my daily driver and it was the GT model with the hatch back but the interior was like brand new but I had a friend who asked me if I could take him to North mpls to go get his tool box from his ex girlfriends place which we did & this tool box filled the entire back of the car up to a point that hatch almost couldn't close lol so we take off heading back to East Bethel MN where we lived at the time & were cruising down 94 & all of a sudden the car felt unstable at the rear when taking corners so we get back to his place he unloads the tool box I go home and look under the car & one of the control arms had rotted through on the body and broke off where the mount was on the body so not worth fixing it . I ended up calling a local scrap yard and I knew one of the counter people that was a brother of a high school friend of mine and asked him how much for the car minus the Saginaw 4 SPD trans and he told me 100.00 cash so I pulled the trans out of it and towed the car to the bone yard and got paid for it lol selling it for more that what I paid for it plus keeping the transmission out of it that eventually went into a 70 Elcamino I had that I was going to do a swap from a automatic to a 4 SPD manual. Now that I think of it I don't think the bone yard by me now in Wisconsin where I live now would pay that much for a mid sized car hardly especially if you cut the cats off of it because scrap iron is so low now so for me getting that 100.00 way back then for a crappy rusted out Vega was a damn good price 😂.
Mines a hybrid too. It burns oil and gasoline
Man I had a 89 mustang lx 5.0 convertible and used to do this at a harley shop, man that was a bunch of different shit, sometimes smells like sulfur and knew it probably wasn't good but never had any problems
This is feller may be Derek from vice grip garage's, long lost sciencey twin. 🤔
Nah, he's my wealthier, funnier, non-sciency, little brother 😉😂.
He did turn on the sparkulator
Omg!!!!!! I thought I was freakin bugging lols
@@freedomworx You actually do sound and resemble him closely enough to pass as his Brother.
I have been mistaken for him at automotive events more than once 😉
filling the oil filter is perfectly fine and is actually a good idea.
Those are fighting words! 😂
Some manufacturers void warranty. Air locks the oil pump.
I’ve always prefilled the filter on vehicles I could.
It doesn't make a difference
If i dont fill it on my dmax ute the oil light stays on for an unsettling amount of time
But if i fill it. Well it unfills when its turned on its side.
I always do it on EJ
I think they intentionally made the SAE gear oil numbers double engine oil values so they were not easily mixed up. Aircraft engine oils are also double.
Interesting. I’ll have to look into the Aviation Lube stuff. 👍
This is probably true
Talking to a Klondike lube rep, yes, the numbers are doubled on gear oil for differentiation purposes. Klondike's synth ATF is around 0W20.
@@dalesautomotivefsj1606no way atf is that thick, it’s more like 0w-8
Exactly The AeroShell 100 is the same viscosity as a SAE50 car oil Aeroshell 80 is SAE 40. But gear oil is by ISO. SAE 50 equals an ISO 220. The double numbers comes from the fact the Gear oils viscosity ate given at 40C and in car engine oils the straight viscosity is given at 100C. Now multigrade Gear oils are a different methodology.
I had a 250 I-6 Chevy in a '63 wagon, It had been owned since new by a taxi driver who drove it back and forth, repeatedly, every year to Florida from Missouri.. The rest of the time, he was using it as a taxi.. When he gave it to me, it had 350,000 miles on it, and he showed me the records. The heads had never been off, and the motor was working hard to make 75 psi in 5 cylinders and 95 in one. In the summer, it would start and run just fine, though it was pretty gutless and to say it smoked was understating things a bit. Being broke didn't leave me any choices,(this was 1985), so I pulled the pan and filter and refilled with 2 qts of Harley Davidson 80-90, a qt. of Motor Honey and topped off with SAE 50. That pulled the pressure up and got it humming. It felt brand new until things heated up and thinned things out a bit but it was still a lot better than when I got it. When I sold it, I included the log book and told them what I had done, didn't BS the fella none. That money got me to Fla. where I got decent work.
Now that’s a cool story 😎👍. Thanks for sharing.
Think about the lack of detergents. Not a good idea in a combustion engine
If the engine is already shot, detergents don’t matter.
We ran rural route newspapers back in the early 90s. About 210 miles a day. Those cars would burn out there rings within 3 months. We dump the thicks gear oil in them it smoke like crazy for about 100 miles. After about 200 miles we drain the gear oil and fill it full oil it last another 3 months.
@@michaeladdison4461 help me with the math here. 2100 miles in a 24 hour days is an average 87.5MPH. Your route on the autobahn? 😉
First vid I’ve watched of yours and I gotta say it’s a joy to watch. Learned something as well! New well earned subscriber here
I’m glad you enjoyed it. I appreciate the support 👍
From working on my '98 Jeep XJ, it's stuck in my head that 75w-85/90 is ~10W-30 (viscosity, not chemistry). This entire video reinforces that. Awesome.
Yep. They are very close in viscosity.
This is correct ☝🏼
12:50 Conversely, if during said zombie apocalypse you lose the gear oil out of a differential or other driveline module, you can use an SAE 60 or 20W-50 to get you home safely.
Now you’re thinking with you’re dipstick 😎👍
could use veg oil in a diff to get you home.
I mean......ANY oil is better then no oil.
You could use piss to get home ...
@@freedomworx ha!! I did it... bonehead me checked the diff oil and left the plug out.. nicel ong roadtrip... I sort of smelled that warm geary oil smell but you know I just cvhecked it.. i musta got some on the exhaust.. an amazing amount of gear oil spreays out the plug.. enough it was really really low when i stopped noticing a smoke cloud in the headlights behind me way down the road.. poured some 15W40 rotella diesel oil in (its an IH diesel if it aint leakin its empty so always carry engine oil).. and drove on.. after a few hundred miles I got to my desitnation and next day changed out the oil for gear oil again.. 7 years later.. same rear diff and no issues.. P.S. amazingly the plug was stil;l laying up in the indent on the frame where i had left it.. now THAT was luck
Great VJAYO! I learned so much here and I watch a lot of oil vids ! nice work and explanation!
Im glad you enjoyed it 👍😎
This is brilliant! Thanks for the new knowledge! Hello from across the pond! And might i add, the names of the tubes gave me a good chuckle
The rest of the world laughs at those bozos. Why shouldn’t I? 😂 thanks for watching 👍
Damn hilarious while at the same time learning. You'd be an amazing teacher man! Keep up the great work 👍
I appreciate that. CZcams Professor is my retirement plan 😂😉
Get ready for the haters, every time I tried to explain this to people in the CZcams comments I got a lot of (really) offensive replies 😰
Haters make you famous…or at least, that’s what the internet says 😂
@@freedomworx I guess it's 100% true because they still feed the algorithm 🤔Just as we usually wish actors to "break a leg" I suppose I should wish you to be hated 😅
Thanks… I think 😂
I've learned that you can't explain the truth to some CZcams commenters. They are*experts* ahem..
@@robertwest3093ya people are stupid as shit and mistake viscosity ratings for thickness
We accidentally filled about 15 cars with gear oil in the service bay because the delivery truck filled the wrong tank 😂😂😂
All the oil pressures!!!
Back in the early 90s I got ahold of a 2.8 v6 fiero that had some very evident low end knock. I ran 80/90 gear oil to quiet the knock and drove it this way for 3 years.
You’d make a good used car salesman 😎
Or you could just run Lucas as 2-3qts out of 5.
Top notch american engineering.
Did that with old Austin mini in 80's , rumbling crank and oil light on at idle ,sounded great with really thick gear oil from work , oil light stayed off ran it all summer
I learned something today.
A metal ball coming out of a tube filled with 0w20 making a little pop click noise. 😎
It was a surprise to me also 😂
oh damn, you've grown so much in subs, I didn't get notified, I was here when you were still in triple digits! awesome!
Well thanks for sticking around. I’ve started to figure things out and have had some good success as of late. Hopefully it’ll continue to grow. I need more dollars to support my automotive science addiction 😂🤓
Brother man kick ass video, thank you for dropping some good knowledge on us. I'm 41 and I'm just now learning that there's a difference between engine oil weight and gear oil weight. I thought I was a gearhead too. Keep it up, looking forward to the next one
Don't feel bad. I'm a Gearhead and an engineer and I didn't know until I was 42. All of my coworkers are engineers, and many are also Gearheads. None of them knew when I pulsed them at work. 👍
Wow man. Great video! Seriously entertaining. The lab made me chuckle, "for no particular reason." 😂
Totally random names 😎
@@freedomworx classic dude, great content!
Thanks for watching 👍
Richard did multiple dyno runs with all different oil weights. The trend was that thin oil provided less drag on the crank to make more horsepower. In his test 20-50 made the most power because piston ring seal with thick oil made more power and over came crank splash
I assume you are referring to Richard Holdner? I need me one of those dynamometer thingies myself 🤓
@@freedomworx yep
As an upstart auto fart in about 1966 an old man with a model T and was it a Ford A was changing oil. It dangled like mamas dipetydoo. He told me whenever she gets to a smokin just up the oil tenerso. He was putting in 50 weight! Lol. My engines never blow either. 20w50 max in big engines. With 300,000 or so. I go 10w40 in 200,000 mile rigs. My lil sissypoo just got 5w30 syn with sooty exhaust at 33,000 miles on 0w20 from stealership. A few thousand miles and tail pipe is silver shiny now! Lucas gas conditioner in also! Mileage went up 3.5 mpg! Try it kidderz! Lol
First video I've seen of yours. Funny, informative, square body chevy, beard, edited good with no fluff, subscribed!
I appreciate the support 👍
You got a new sub my brother! Cool combo of science, funny, and myth busting sarcasm 🍿😎
Nice truck
I appreciate the support 👍
Gear oil and motor oil use different ratings. 80w90/75w90gear oil is the same viscosity as sae40 to sae50 motor oil at temp. 75w140 will be around sae60 motor oil at temp.
Edit:"I need to watch more than half way through before I comment".
I almost said that before I read the rest of your comment 😂😂
@@freedomworx Great video man. Very entertaining.
Thanks for watching 👍
Old Honda manual transmissions take 10w30 almost the same as 75w90 gear oil. There on different scales
@@jlsrr2577when I took my Honda manual trans oil out of Civic and replaced it with 75w90 from Motul, it acted way slower and more protective. Yes the Honda fluid is lite but I no likey!!
It might not be such a good idea with newer engines but old ones nearing the end of their service life tend to not have any issues with it. I've run many with gear oil and it worked well.
I wouldn’t recommend anyone do it unless they are trying to squeeze the last bit of life out of a shit box 😂😎
@@freedomworx Hey now. Shitbox with one tire already in the grave has been the definition of every vehicle we ever had for a daily driver. 😄
You know what they say, pretty paint causes stress. I’m a patina and oil leaks kinda guy 😂
Great content, keep up the good work,
You make this very digestible .
I appreciate that 😎
Thank you sir, for being both informative and entertaining.
Thanks for watching 👍
Burt, you're so versatile. Comedienne and teacher
I’m also good at procrastination 😎
That's what a comment section is for right??!
Right, I gotta go make some dinner happen!
I am now a lubrication specialist.
You should put it on your resume 😎
I too rub things together.
I feel like I should've come across one of those charts at some point, but alas, I have not. Ya learn something new every day. Good video.
I didn't know this until a year ago. It's one of those things that most people never question. I only looked into it after a comment from a viewer 👍
Thank you for this excellent educational video. I learned a great deal today. Carry On Sir!
Thank you for watching 👍
When i was 13 i asked a mechanic why EP oil was not used in engines.
Im 45, im a mechanic.
Thankyou from the bottom of my heart. 😂
Never to late to learn some new useless knowledge 😂👍
I have autism and I couldn't stop laughing for the longest time after you uttered the phrase aw s*** add oil was about to overflow LoL 😆
I completely miscalculated how much that thing would hold 😂
Love it brother! Semper Fi!
Thanks for the support! Semper Fi 🖍️🖍️
Well I've been a tech for many years my brain has been fully lubricated by your video
Let’s keep this PG-13 😂
At “posted 31mins ago” I literally begged my boss for a second lunch break to enjoy this video, made my day
I’m glad the boss let you watch 👍
Thank you, just came up in recommended. This was a good video
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Thanks Bert for doing this, been wanting to try this forever
Burnt…Burnt Chrysler 😉
7:43 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Don and joe.. blue and red. And Libby..
You like that one? 😉 😎
Holy shit I TOTALLY missed the Don/Joe joke. Still don't know who Libby is.
@@salsuginusrex5196 Libertarian…the funnel is a Libertarian 😉
@@freedomworx yes! Yes Sir I Do!!
Is That Folded Flag in the lab behind you what I think it is? If so,
Thank You, For your family’s sacrifice!
8:09 was probably my favorite part though I must admit. 🤣🤣🤣. Ok I’m out..
I don't know why you have them dorky rims/wheels on that old Chevy, but I liked and subscribed anyhow. Good lesson, Professor!
Don’t be hating on my 20’s 😉
First time viewer. Definitely liking and subscribing 😂 best part was round 1 of Joe vs Don 😂
Glad you liked it. I appreciate the support 👍
Really good video and deserves more views - i know i learned something, and it was done in a fun way. 🙂
I appreciate the complement. Glad you got something out of it. I'm fan of your work BTW 👍
Heads up: pointing your IR thermometer at the graduated cylinders didn't tell you the oil temperature, it told you the glass temperature. Glass is transparent to visible light, but the overwhelming majority of glasses and glass-alikes (acrylic, plexi, etc.) are opaque to infrared. Now, since both the glass and oil were likely in the same room overnight, you did get an accurate reading of the temperature of the oil, but only by chance.
Thanks for the tip my friend 👍. Yes, everything was stored in the same room overnight 👍
subbed..great info plus comedy keep it up😂💪💪
Thanks for the support 👍
I enjoyed that. Well done!👏
Thanks for watching 👍
You are a HOOT...love your play on words...and Maybe my buddy will see you on the Road Tour in 24? Keep it up!
I appreciate the kind words. Thanks for watching 👍
Finally a actually sense of humor on this guy. Like them videos so I will subscribe.
I'm glad you enjoyed it 👍
" ya'll might be thinking im an idiot , but imma prove it ". .. .had me cracking up 👍
Thanks… I think 🤔😉
Excellent vid ...new subscribe 'r
I appreciate the support 👍
Thanks for the cool video. Learned something new about gear oil. (thumbsup)
Glad it was helpful! 👍
Just discovered the channel and keep up the good work! Information, education and entertainment. Thank you for the video and a sweet looking/sounding Chevy!
I'm glad you enjoyed it. That Chevy is going to sound like a 12 Valve Cummins here pretty soon 😎
Half filling the oil filter. You're a true man of the people. With a health distrust for comment sections.
Figured I could piss everyone off at the same time 🤷🏻♂️😎
I LOVE your truck, man.
I appreciate it. It’s about to get a major engine upgrade 😉
First video I've come across of yours and it's well done. Hell, I even learned something!
I appreciate that. Thank you for watching 👍
CZcams algorithm suggest me this video, thanks for it! great video!
Sometimes CZcams gets it right! Thanks for watching 👍
Just subbed your content is epic thank you
I appreciate the complement and support 👍
I learned something, Thank you.
Glad you got something out of it 👍
Some truckdrivers in South Africa use 20w50 engine oil in their older trucks gearboxes and it works for them.Thanks for your video,it was very informative and I loved the humor.
I’m glad you enjoyed it 👍
thank you for this as a mechanic with 44 years I thought I knew it all lol, learned something new today
There is always more to learn 👍
Just got to love a Laboratory with a Dillon loading press on the bench. Great video.
I like all manner of combustion science 😎👍
Well i ain't never! Learn something every day. Thanks, quite interesting.
I’m glad you got something out of it. Thanks for watching 👍
Alal log gage amused more than it should.
Anyway, very well produced and informative video.
Gotta watch those anal-log gauges. They’ll screw you 👀
Very informative and not overly surprising. An engine will run on just about anything. I've tried peanut oil, corn oil, even jet turbine oil in lawn mowers... They all run perfectly fine short term.
Turmoil?😉
Excellent video very informative and entertaining
I’m glad you enjoyed it 👍
Thank you for the science 🎉
Very Scientifical!😎
Love your tests.
BTW, gear oil ratings are different than engine oil ratings.
And.... as I typed that you just explained that. Cool. More people are going to learn this, now.
It happens 😂 Thanks for watching👍
@@freedomworx My pleasure!! 😀 Thanks for sharing!
A great video! You live and learn 😊
I appreciate it. Thanks for watching 👍
I learned something today. Thanks.
Glad you got something out of it 👍
I do this all the time. It magically shrinks my bearing clearances and that just feels good.
It’s basically magic 😂
Nice demonstration!
Glad you liked it! 👍
I didn't know that, now i do. Great👍
Glad you got something out of it 👍
This channel should have more subscribers
Agreed 😉. Hopefully business will pick up soon 😎
This was great!
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
dude you're going to get to 100k subs in no time with content like this.
Thanks for the kind words. We shall see 🤞
Just stumbled over here. Great content!!
Glad you enjoy it 👍
very informative. learn something everyday.
I’m glad you got something out of it 👍
A fairly common thing for enthusiasts of old 2 stroke motorcycles like myself is to run 75w90 gear oil in the gearbox as opposed to the motor oil that's typically specified. It's understood to be better suited for both the gears and the clutches, but you can't typically get away with that on 4 strokes, where the gearbox and clutch usually share the oil with the engine.
I always used Rotella in my KTM 300XC. It's a lot cheaper than 75W-85...and I don't think I even knew 75W-85 was a thing back then.
I watched the en-tire video and honestly, I felt I learnt something, which is rare on them thar interlinkz.
I'm glad you go something out of it 👍
All those years wrenching and I never knew gear oil and motor oil used different scales. Well, that earns a thumbs up.
Btw, I like the 30mm "pointer".
There is always more to learn 👍. Thanks for watching 😎
Ok. I thought when you droped the bearing in and it fell faster in the engine oil that was showing the gear oil was thicker. My mistake. I only seen the blue gear oil vs 15w40.
Love your videos. Thank you.
Thanks for watching 👍
All your videos are awesome, you should really make more of them / put them out on a more regular basis.
Oh, and do a build series on Cummins swapping the Excursion.
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I appreciate the kind words. I wish I had more time to do more videos. But between my day job and family, I’m stretched pretty thin. I’m actually about to start a 12 valve build and put it in my Service Truck for Drag and Drive events. Already have a stack of parts, so stay tuned 👍
Love your content always very entertaining and educational , Hey are you a fellow Albertan and if so what part
Thanks for the kind words. I actually live in Georgia. I just refer to Canadia every time something is metric. Thank you for watching 👍
Thanks I learned something thanks ❤
Glad you got something out of it. 👍
everything I didnt want to know but couldnt stop watching
A appreciate you watching 👍
Good summary. The EP additives compete with the antiwear additives like ZDDP for surface where loads are not too high as well.
Yep, there is only so much surface area on bearing...surfaces. You gotta pick you poison when it comes to additive packages.
normally i strongly dislike clickbatey titles but this video was informative. I will give it a like
Glad you liked it 👍
My Dad ran gear oil and engine oil mixed in the old dump truck. That truck was horribly worn out and smoked badly. He rarely used it though and it's job was about once a month to pull a load from the top of the hill to the bottom. Going downhill it didn't exactly need loads of power, the brakes working is what were the primary concern on that old 1950's International rusty dump bucket.
When they are old and worn, run whatever makes them happy 👍
I was a mechanic for 15 years and I never knew that love learning stuff like this
You’re in good company. Most people, even mechanics and engineers, never learn this. 👍
0:56 - You mean to tell me that this is NOT Bert “the MACHINE” Kreischer!!! 🤣🤣🤣 They could definitely pass for twins!!!
I’m Burnt Chrysler 🤓
Im very surprised joe wasn't slower, and he didn't fall over, was really expecting him to take a spill 😂😂😂.
😂😂
That’s good stuff right there 😎
Glad you like it 👍
I'd love to see a series where you take Bert K on car trips to talk about anything and get some timelapse from the rooftop because you drive a clean line in lane on the road.
Check that skill at 6:03.
I’d love to take a road trip with him. But he’s big money, so he’s buying the drinks 😂
Thank you sir.
Thanks for watching 👍
Great information
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
I know you made this video entertaining but you've just explained to me something I didn't know very clearly. Thank you so much!
I really didn't know that gearbox oil grades and engine oil grades aren't the same.
But it does neatly explain why my gearbox didn't blow up when I put engine oil in it 😂😂😂😂
The more you know! Thanks for watching 👍
Our big truck Fuller transmissions (13 and 18 speed) are designated 50 weight motor oil.
Interesting 🧐
Once I had no choice but to use motor oil as gear oil. The differential survived. The JB weld cover repair is still holding after 20 years
This engine actually has a J-B Welded main cap in it 😂
an american who knows how not to waffle and dont love the sound of his own voice brill teach rest of usa utubers plz mate great vid
I like waffles 😉. Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Honestly that was cool. I never knew this.
Glad you got something out of it 👍
Love your explanations. Any chance of going over those 'tuner chip' mods? Or other power adding things like 'performance' enhancing air filters. Also I found a Donaldson filter would fit my jeep and it's supposed to be a lifetime filter. Thought you might like that one.
I’ve got some performance stuff coming up. I’ll say this about performance air filters. Unless you are making big power, in most cases, you are just letting my contaminants through the filter without realizing any performance gain. Especially is diesel applications, the factory air filter will filter better and flow more than enough to make more horsepower than the other fueling and air components can support.
Actually a damn good vid
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
And you for sure fill the filter before installing. If it happens to be an up and down facing filter then you'd be crazy not to. And I'm with you on the smell of rear end lube 😅 I did NOT know that they used different scales!
If an engine has an upside down filter, I'll turn the car upside down just so I can install a full filter. Where there is a wheel, there is a way.😂😉