I think the problem is that there is a lack of substantive facts. We only know that there are Discord servers for cheaters. Everything else is speculation. The cheaters mention names but A) Can you trust them and B) They mostly mention "who" they think is cheating. There is a saying, to carpenter everything looks like nail. Cheaters cant phantom that there legitimately cracked players.
@@mad_murphy u saw that Twitter tweet tho by him right? It was crazy to see him go off like that (leaping towards a wall while in the zone and hits a sniper shot through a window without ease) You know? That's what is making me question this stuff now
Love the awareness you're building about this subject, and your production quality is superb! Please keep it up as long as you can, you've definitely caught my attention with your coverage. I'd only heard about DMA cheats recently and find the topic fascinating from the perspective of an arms race between the developers of these methods and the gaming companies. Cant wait to see more!
this insane, hopefully this makes some more people look into this issue. the way you did this video is awesome love the editing and music and your spliced cam takes, its awesome! def earned a sub!
Anti Cheat needs to step up their game and cheating needs to be more severely punished. An example of this is if a pro player is found to be boosting, that player should be permanently excommunicated from that game. I would even go to suggest that other games share their list and also ban that player from other competitive games as well.
@ibraheemali7044 first of all, no you can not. If you cheat to get to LAN you don't perform as well as Zaine did. Secondly, if you are talking about a pro player and all you can say is you think they cheated in ranked, then you shouldn't be talking in the first place.
@@illCMAC "fIrSt Of AlL".. Yes, you can.. if he only uses radar cheats or walls, just to see where the enemy is, he can absolutely still be good at LAN's without the cheats on. Not every cheat of just for aiming..
Competitive gaming is starting to feel like actual sports, like when most football/baseball players are using steroids because "everyone else is doing it" and it ain't bad if you're not caught.
Everyone who's noticed that during the ALGS tournaments, the "pros" aim isn't quite as crispy at the LAN finals, as it is during the at home qualifiers! 👇
I mean tell me Im playing for more $ than I would normally make in a year and put me on an unfamiliar set and see how good I do in comparison to me playing some regular games
Yoo keep up the good work! I think it would make the videos a little better if there was more of a conclusion, obviously it’s an ongoing issue though, regardless great work!
I was in one of these discords recently. So many people actively trying to work on cheats or workaround for the cheat blocks. Kind of sad. They also feel proud and claim to be top preds and so good, when in reality they are cheating
Everybody is talking about this right now. DMA cheats and now VR goggles with 2D maps with players real time positions. It's going down and I'm here for it!
The problem is like the "war on drugs" you can't stop ppl from making, using, and distributing them. it must be stopped in another manner. harsher punishments for using them. stricter gaming accounts for starters and actually keeping the cheating player that's caught banned. having a global ban list would be pretty sweet as well that companies should share.
Dont listen to the hate, good job. No video is going to be perfect, sure couldve been a little bit longer but it was still great and all you can do is achieve new levels!
I tried to tell everyone long ago. And have been complaining about it for a long time now. It's unreal how deep it really goes across all games and it's sad because it has ruined gaming.
A random tried to talk me and my buddy into using hacks and we left the game immediately! We are not about to get banned because of someone elses dumbass decisions.
It fairly easy the guys who developed the cheat pay hackers to constantly change the discord ip address through a back door in the discord app or through pc website. Pc is better because of faster typing and hackers can use a vpn or spoof the ip through multiple servers. Once this is done the hackers have a backdoor into the commamd hub of discord so they know if there going to be busted. So how it works is it layers. Example the discord server name will be something you don’t think of as a cheat like grieving family members. Then that server on a discord server room. Then they add another layer in another room and change the name for that room to say stress relief. Then they do it again in another room say 90’s music group. Then if say 90’s music group is about to go down the hackers hard wipe the server for that room and the cheating server goes into the name stress relief. But it the same server but used with different names across different server rooms. It how cheating discords stay hidden. Also cheating discords will make about 12-20 discords that are legit for say 90’s music so that way if someone say to a discord employee hey this server 90’s music tried to sell me cheat for game and the company goes and look for it now it a needle in a haystack because there over 20 discords with the name 90’s music. Which buys the hackers time for a hard wipe. And the cheat devs and the hackers in the discord are running layered vpns and use fall names and fresh untraceable email address.
not all hardware id's are banned. In most cases its just your storage drives id's and mac address. Kernel anticheats also can't detect dma boards. They can detect the firmware installed on it or the presence of it due to bad spoofing or mass used drivers but most pro players would obviously spend another 100bux for someone to make them a 1/1 copy that will stay undetected forever.
Idk I think its a little more than that in Master lobbies. I'm going out on a limb and will guess its closer to 35% maybe slightly more. Most roller players are using anti recoil scripts...and if your lucky enough to find a m&k player that's in masters they probably are using wall hacks or something to get an advantage over all these roller players. I've ran into pred teams that seem to know exactly when to shoot you right as you peak them even if you rat these teams seem to know exactly where all the rats are hiding...idk I've been killed by pred 3 stacks that are for sure wall hacking. I feel like wall hacks and soft aim bots are the staple for pred/master lobbies. Most the guys at the top have atleast 1 cheater on the team helping them.
Take a look at messiahs recent post on Twit, hits a No miss In a clutch situation on a path that somehow ends up cheating them first, But how he knows where all the other players r gonna be really got me thinking now cuz first he Sniped someone through a Crack in a Wall, no miss, than waits by a door 2 seconds before the bang lands There and fries her, no miss. Moch is on to something and I Suggest he and know he will stay ontop of this stuff.
The Finals has got a wayyyg worse cheater problem than Apex. It's unplayable on Asian servers due to there being soooo many cheaters. They use the weakest possible anti-cheat and never address the problem, so its become a haven for cheating streamers
bro i play on xbox , and is crazy the amount of zen no recoil people , and movement key zonus users too but is reaaly hard to find a good mnk zen user most of them suck soo much but still have 0 recoil e aim assist
Glad someone is talking about this issue! Great video!
You mean other than EVERY creator associated with APEX? This is old news and this nob literally didnt add ANYTHING new.
@@latenerd2441 exactly it’s not that deep unless they discover some apex dev whitelisting/unbanning or something along those lines
That’s it? Feels like one of those children books that just ends halfway through the story
Well he's just now coming out about this so He's probably relieved backlash already, Yeah he should keep up with the story, He's gonna dive deeper
I mean it kinda just came out soo
I think the problem is that there is a lack of substantive facts. We only know that there are Discord servers for cheaters. Everything else is speculation.
The cheaters mention names but A) Can you trust them and B) They mostly mention "who" they think is cheating. There is a saying, to carpenter everything looks like nail. Cheaters cant phantom that there legitimately cracked players.
@@mad_murphy u saw that Twitter tweet tho by him right? It was crazy to see him go off like that (leaping towards a wall while in the zone and hits a sniper shot through a window without ease) You know? That's what is making me question this stuff now
Yes
ngl, went down to the like button expecting to see at least 100k. this video is under rated as hell, keep up the good work
Cheating Mafia manipulating the algorithms
same
no apex legends video is ever getting 100k likes
This video makes a fantastic intro to a deep dive, hoping for more in the future!
Doing all this JUST to win in a fps game. What complete scum of the earth
so?
@@SimSwapHero we found one basement dweller boys
@@SHAAADOWWW794Trippin, I just don't care if people cheat.
@@SimSwapHero so why u here then ?
@@SHAAADOWWW794 cuz it's an interesting topic, whatchu here for🤡
Such high quality content from such a small channel, i love this man. Keep up the amazing work and also its on the lever lemmino
Love the awareness you're building about this subject, and your production quality is superb! Please keep it up as long as you can, you've definitely caught my attention with your coverage. I'd only heard about DMA cheats recently and find the topic fascinating from the perspective of an arms race between the developers of these methods and the gaming companies. Cant wait to see more!
im so happy that i found this youtube channel, your editing is sick!
this insane, hopefully this makes some more people look into this issue. the way you did this video is awesome love the editing and music and your spliced cam takes, its awesome! def earned a sub!
This video is so well made! Thank you for bringing light on this topic.
This video is about to go viral
the disrupt theme is very welcome, this is really well done man
Really dig this style of video dude. Keep up the great work 🤜
Very impressed 👏🏾 keep this up, you’ve got a great tone and style.
this needs to be viral
This is why online tournaments are so risky. Cash or really any prizes need to be removed from online tournaments and saved strictly for LAN's.
extremely nicely done bro, i know ALOT of work went into this video, hope it pays off for you
Thanks for covering this more in depth
Literally 0 pro players were caught up in the cheaters server btw.
mafia makes it sound cooler than it is. But eloquent and extravagant video as always!!! If I wasn’t already subbed I’d sub again!!!
I like your style and how much effort your edits have too!
damn this channel deserves more views great vid
this video was so good! loved the editing
I really enjoy your videos bro......keep up the work
Playing this game legitimately since it started kind of pisses me off with how many people cheat.
Great video and great edits. I hope this goes Vile for you bro.
Anti Cheat needs to step up their game and cheating needs to be more severely punished. An example of this is if a pro player is found to be boosting, that player should be permanently excommunicated from that game. I would even go to suggest that other games share their list and also ban that player from other competitive games as well.
anti cheats will always have someone that gets around them...
more more more we want more. Good video man
Whoa. Great vid and editing style.
Damn, this was a great video! Please make more, very entertaining
Keep up the phenomenal work man!
Love the editing style! Very reminiscent of Disrupt
Well made video!!! I'd love to see more vids like this about other subjects
The style reminds me of Disrupt, which is a compliment
Keep it up
Awesome content bruv
Damn good video man!
The cutting skills going through thr ROOOOF bro
Amazing work. Good stuff sir. We need to keep up the anti cheater dialogue and expose them!
Zaine is literally LAN tested, who cares what T2 and T3 players think?
i mean u can still be a good player and play well in lan and still cheat in ranked at stuff??? lan proven doesnt disproved they have cheated
@ibraheemali7044 first of all, no you can not. If you cheat to get to LAN you don't perform as well as Zaine did. Secondly, if you are talking about a pro player and all you can say is you think they cheated in ranked, then you shouldn't be talking in the first place.
i just said you can cheat and still be a good player. just cos u played lan doesnt mean that you've never cheated b4 lmao@@illCMAC
Ikr all these t2 players thinking zaine cheats holy bricked in the head much
@@illCMAC "fIrSt Of AlL".. Yes, you can.. if he only uses radar cheats or walls, just to see where the enemy is, he can absolutely still be good at LAN's without the cheats on. Not every cheat of just for aiming..
whats the song that you use at 6:30?
Please lmk lol
dame banger editing
Great vid and like the editing
Not long enough. It feels like a childrens book 😂
Underrated video
Reminds me of the channel Lemmino! I seriously love the effort put into this hopefully theres a conclusion
Time to get down to investigating for a part 2.
Great story telling!
I am astonished that people go this far to cheat in a VIDEOGAME.
Great video felt like disrupt happy i subbed
great video
I lowkey like this a lot😂😂
And now you cant tapstrafe on controller. Game will legitimately be dead by the end of 2024
great video good luck ♥
Competitive gaming is starting to feel like actual sports, like when most football/baseball players are using steroids because "everyone else is doing it" and it ain't bad if you're not caught.
Everyone who's noticed that during the ALGS tournaments, the "pros" aim isn't quite as crispy at the LAN finals, as it is during the at home qualifiers!
👇
I mean tell me Im playing for more $ than I would normally make in a year and put me on an unfamiliar set and see how good I do in comparison to me playing some regular games
Gem of a video
Great video, waiting for follow up!!
DMA is unstoppable people been using it for the last two years, and more on some games in the past ..
Yoo keep up the good work! I think it would make the videos a little better if there was more of a conclusion, obviously it’s an ongoing issue though, regardless great work!
fire video ;)
I was in one of these discords recently. So many people actively trying to work on cheats or workaround for the cheat blocks. Kind of sad. They also feel proud and claim to be top preds and so good, when in reality they are cheating
Great vid! Excellent editing. Great mood. Insta-sub!
Bro we need Part 2....
Panic saying he was baiting while blatantly cheating and shooting that wall is hilarious. What a loser
I had a feeling
I WANT PART 2 ALREADY
Good video, strange ending. Feel like it kind of just ended...
really good video man, holy fuck the effort u put into this is crazy
Everybody is talking about this right now. DMA cheats and now VR goggles with 2D maps with players real time positions. It's going down and I'm here for it!
The problem is like the "war on drugs" you can't stop ppl from making, using, and distributing them. it must be stopped in another manner. harsher punishments for using them. stricter gaming accounts for starters and actually keeping the cheating player that's caught banned. having a global ban list would be pretty sweet as well that companies should share.
this is why i stopped online gaming, its a waste of time and resources, energy
This was just a tip of the iceberg
Good video. Definitely a controversial topic amongst the shooting game communities. 💯
That was good
Dont listen to the hate, good job. No video is going to be perfect, sure couldve been a little bit longer but it was still great and all you can do is achieve new levels!
I tried to tell everyone long ago. And have been complaining about it for a long time now. It's unreal how deep it really goes across all games and it's sad because it has ruined gaming.
A random tried to talk me and my buddy into using hacks and we left the game immediately!
We are not about to get banned because of someone elses dumbass decisions.
i also find it suspicious how someone konck me down with one hit in. apkes legends
It fairly easy the guys who developed the cheat pay hackers to constantly change the discord ip address through a back door in the discord app or through pc website. Pc is better because of faster typing and hackers can use a vpn or spoof the ip through multiple servers. Once this is done the hackers have a backdoor into the commamd hub of discord so they know if there going to be busted. So how it works is it layers. Example the discord server name will be something you don’t think of as a cheat like grieving family members. Then that server on a discord server room. Then they add another layer in another room and change the name for that room to say stress relief. Then they do it again in another room say 90’s music group. Then if say 90’s music group is about to go down the hackers hard wipe the server for that room and the cheating server goes into the name stress relief. But it the same server but used with different names across different server rooms. It how cheating discords stay hidden. Also cheating discords will make about 12-20 discords that are legit for say 90’s music so that way if someone say to a discord employee hey this server 90’s music tried to sell me cheat for game and the company goes and look for it now it a needle in a haystack because there over 20 discords with the name 90’s music. Which buys the hackers time for a hard wipe. And the cheat devs and the hackers in the discord are running layered vpns and use fall names and fresh untraceable email address.
Very similar video style to DisruptTV. Awesome!
99.99% apex pros in the discord
Definitely missing a conclusion. But great content and great flow for the video
Fern type beat
is this why the old faze clan had 2 pcs in all their setups
not all hardware id's are banned. In most cases its just your storage drives id's and mac address.
Kernel anticheats also can't detect dma boards. They can detect the firmware installed on it or the presence of it due to bad spoofing or mass used drivers but most pro players would obviously spend another 100bux for someone to make them a 1/1 copy that will stay undetected forever.
i am sure that most of the well known streamers and pro players are cheating since long time ago.
P90 case with 2080 Super @6:15 I have that!
W vid
People cheating and not getting banned and I'm here false banned on 2 accounts since 2018 now I'm here on my 3rd account apparently not banned... Yet.
As a current master I feel like 5% of playerbase in master + is cheating. I saw the same names for months blatantly cheating.
Idk I think its a little more than that in Master lobbies. I'm going out on a limb and will guess its closer to 35% maybe slightly more. Most roller players are using anti recoil scripts...and if your lucky enough to find a m&k player that's in masters they probably are using wall hacks or something to get an advantage over all these roller players. I've ran into pred teams that seem to know exactly when to shoot you right as you peak them even if you rat these teams seem to know exactly where all the rats are hiding...idk I've been killed by pred 3 stacks that are for sure wall hacking. I feel like wall hacks and soft aim bots are the staple for pred/master lobbies. Most the guys at the top have atleast 1 cheater on the team helping them.
Are you saying ad-a-min?
and then the devs did nothing about it
yo microphone got some hair
Take a look at messiahs recent post on Twit, hits a No miss In a clutch situation on a path that somehow ends up cheating them first, But how he knows where all the other players r gonna be really got me thinking now cuz first he Sniped someone through a Crack in a Wall, no miss, than waits by a door 2 seconds before the bang lands There and fries her, no miss. Moch is on to something and I Suggest he and know he will stay ontop of this stuff.
The Finals has got a wayyyg worse cheater problem than Apex. It's unplayable on Asian servers due to there being soooo many cheaters. They use the weakest possible anti-cheat and never address the problem, so its become a haven for cheating streamers
Wannabe disrupt lmao
bro i play on xbox , and is crazy the amount of zen no recoil people , and movement key zonus users too but is reaaly hard to find a good mnk zen user most of them suck soo much but still have 0 recoil e aim assist
womp womp
Womp womp your views
W
I just left apex. This game is dead. Hackers dominate everything.